Poll Watch Open Thread
by RPT on Nov 18, 2007 11:12 AM CST
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PrintI'll be on the road to Texas Stadium for Cowboys/Redskins here in a little bit, but since I'll be missing out on the Sunday Poll Watch this week, I wanted to open up the forum to Rock M Nation to predict, analyze, and react when the polls are released around 1:00 CST.
Couple of questions:
- How close does KU (sans a loss) get to LSU in the computer rankings?
- Does the OU loss hurt Mizzou, or did the Oregon loss offset the need for that highly-ranked win?
- Who would you rather face in the Big 12 title game: OU or Texas? The bigger question: Does Sam Bradford play in the next two weeks?
- Does MU jump WVU in the human polls?
- How far do Oregon and OU fall?
- How does Ohio State factor into all of this?
- What are your thoughts on bowl projections?
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I have a bad feeling
No one watched the WVU game last night, so even though they only beat Cincy by 5, they won't drop in the human polls.
Meanwhile, the OU loss hurts our SoS just enough to drop us below WVU in the computers poll.
Both of these things are ridiculous, but you know what?
I'm happy.
I want us under the radar until next week.
by Ridiculous Matt on Nov 18, 2007 12:56 PM CST reply actions
I'm not sure the OU loss hurts us...
...since they were beaten by a team we also played (and beat). So OU's ranking dropped, and Tech's ranking improved.
AP Poll is out
Now I realize these do not count towards the BCS percentage, but it is nice to see us moving ahead of WVU here....I would REALLY like to see some separation between us and them just so something screwy does not happen....
AP Top 25
- LSU (60) 10-1 1,619
- Kansas (3) 11-0 1,541
- Missouri (1) 10-1 1,469
- West Virginia (1) 9-1 1,457
- Ohio State 11-1 1,341
- Georgia 9-2 1,246
- Arizona State 9-1 1,219
- Virginia Tech 9-2 1,131
- Oregon 8-2 1,057
- Oklahoma 9-2 1,031
- USC 8-2 967
- Florida 8-3 874
- Texas 9-2 863
- Hawaii 10-0 795
- Boston College 9-2 678
- Virginia 9-2 614
- Boise State 10-1 597
- Illinois 9-3 548
- Tennessee 8-3 512
- Connecticut 9-2 327
- Clemson 8-3 294
- Wisconsin 9-3 274
- Brigham Young 8-2 158
- Cincinnati 8-3 149
- Auburn 7-4 100
Others Receiving Votes
Texas Tech 89, South Florida 73, Kentucky 38, Michigan 19, Arkansas 9, Air Force 7, California 6, Florida State 6, Oregon State 5, Penn State 4, Utah 4, UCF 2, Tulsa 1, Northern Iowa 1.
Dropped From Rankings
Kentucky 22, Michigan 23.
sure...I believe App State got some...
and they are 11-0 and have a win over a D-1 team (Iowa State....such as it is)
Re: sure...I believe App State got some...
That's right, the Big 10 runner-up lost to a 9-2 Division II team.
by Ridiculous Matt on Nov 18, 2007 2:20 PM CST up reply actions
More info on N. Iowa getting one vote
Northern Iowa, the top-ranked team in the Championship Subdivision (formerly I-AA), received one point from the media panel, a 25th-place vote from Ray Ratto of the San Francisco Chronicle.
After Appalachian State beat Michigan this season, the AP changed its policy to allow teams from all divisions to be eligible for its Top 25.
#4 in the Coaches, but gained ground on WVU
Rank Team (first-place votes) Record Points Last week
- LSU (51) 10-1 1,483 1
- Kansas (8) 11-0 1,441 4
- West Virginia (1) 9-1 1,345 5
- Missouri 10-1 1,328 6
- Ohio State 11-1 1,276 7
- Arizona State 9-1 1,158 8
- Georgia 9-2 1,105 9
- Virginia Tech 9-2 1,019 10
- Oklahoma 8-2 931 3
- Oregon 8-2 890 2
- Texas 9-2 883 11
- Southern California 8-2 879 13
- Hawaii 10-0 828 12
- Florida 8-3 736 14
- Virginia 9-2 626 17
- Boston College 9-2 619 18
- Boise State 10-1 593 15
- Illinois 9-3 485 21
- Tennessee 8-3 430 19
- Wisconsin 9-3 343 24
- Connecticut 9-2 264 NR
- Clemson 8-3 225 16
- Brigham Young 8-2 161 NR
- Texas Tech 8-4 80 NR
- Auburn 7-4 65 NR
We suckkkkkkkk!
Never seen a game like that before in the Stoops era. Personal Fouls, botched fake punts, missed assignments all over the damn place. Disgusting.
Garbage. Makes me wanna puke!!!
Oh well, at least all of our players will come back. We're winning MNC next year. (I will now demote myself to the "we'll win it next year" type of fan)
Good luck next week.
P.S.
Still think we're the best team in the Big 12.
BULL F*CKING SHIT
how the hell did WVU leap-frog us when we didn't do anything wrong. even the AP got it right.
...this is some real shit.
by stlcardinalsfang on Nov 18, 2007 6:55 PM CST reply actions
yeah...
...I'm really not sure how that happened considering we closed the gap on them in the human polls. I realize it doesn't really matter considering we're playing the #2 team next week, but...yeah, that's a bunch of crap. I'm a big 'formulas' guy, and I love that computer rankings are used to offset human bias, but I'd like to see an explanation for this one.
Well..surely it cannot be that hard to figure out
I would think it mostly comes down to the fact that WVU had a better win yesterday than we did and we were close to them to begin with. Using the same logic, it will even out over the next two weeks as we would play the #2 team to their playing the #20 (at home) and then we would play another top 15 team while they play lowly Pitt. This week should, if nothing else, demonstrate how much the computers will value a win next week for us over their potential win.
it's just impressive...
...that we had a big enough lead on the computers to overcome a poll disadvantage (especially since, if I understand correctly, polls count 2-to-1 over computers), but their win over a 3-loss team gave them that much of a boost against our win over a 6-loss team...didn't think there was that much volatility in the computers...
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