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Poll Watch: #1 in AP, #2 in Coaches Poll...

With Ross on his way home, I figured I'd go ahead and post this...Mizzou being #1 in the country was important enough to make sure it was at the top of the page...

We're apparently still waiting for the Harris poll, but the AP and Coaches Polls are up.  What's interesting is how different the two are at the top.  In the AP poll, Mizzou got over twice as many first-place votes as West Virginia, but the overall point margin was only 30 points...meaning a decent amount of people picked Mizzou #3 or #4.  In the Coaches poll, it was the exact opposite.  WV got over twice the first-place votes, but the margin was only 13 points, meaning it was West Virginia getting a lot of the #3 or #4 votes.  In last week's Harris poll, MU and WV managed a tie, but the thing to notice is that KU got 13 of the 113 first-place votes.  If that many people were that impressed with KU, then you figure MU will probably get their first-place votes.  Reminder: the AP Poll doesn't figure into the BCS, so we probably need to be #1 in the Harris poll if we want to be #1 in the BCS...and this guy says we'll be #1 in the BCS.  I'll update this post when the Harris poll is released.

UPDATE, 2:46 PM: Harris poll is up (pdf file), and Mizzou's #1 by 26 points.

UPDATE: 3:32 PM: Yup, Mizzou is #1 in the BCS.

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and since The Boy missed them below...

I moved them up here...

Some thoughts:
#1 - Absolute bull crap.  Ohio State goes from not HAVING first place votes last week to SIX of them this week...and DID NOT PLAY.  All that says to me is that the "coaches" are not willing to allow another person towards the top.

#2 - On the same kick...Ohio State's best win is over #16 Wisconsin.  Their next best win is over Penn State, who is #30 and Michigan who is #32.  We have wins over #5 Kansas, #14 Illinois and #26 Texas Tech.  Their OOC was just about as laughable as Kansas's, and yet there they sit.

#3 - We made up less ground on WVU this week than we did last week.  That is strange to me because their win last week at a ranked team (Cincy) was better than our win over k-state, which propelled them ahead of us in the BCS.  We made up more ground on them then than we did with a neutral win over #2 Kansas.  AND...Kansas did not drop like a rock (as some thought they might), only down to #5.  UCONN however fell down to #28 from #20.  For their loss to WVU.

by The Beef on Nov 25, 2007 1:09 PM CST reply actions  

Get Used to It
We're not going to get any recognition or credit until we win the national title game. That's what it's going to take.

Let's just focus on the fact that we're #1, which is AWESOME.

Did any of us really think we'd be here in November?!

And then let's get the penalties and secondary fixed for the OU game. We can beat these guys.

by Ridiculous Matt on Nov 25, 2007 1:27 PM CST reply actions  

For me it is not so much about lack of respect

It is the logic being employed here....or in this case, NOT being employed here.  My third point is the one I am most annoyed about, since if things had moved the way they moved last week, it would have naturally overcame the fact that the coaches showed some probably their most overt case to date of extreme bias for Ohio State and the Big 10.

by The Beef on Nov 25, 2007 1:32 PM CST up reply actions  

And a little of the same with the Harris

I guess 11 people must have had Ohio State 2nd in their polls LAST week, because otherwise I just do not see how you can think that because your #1 lost this past week, and likely your #2 (kU) that Ohio State must be better than the two teams that won...against ranked teams no less.  You can argue UCONN's worth as a ranked team, but they were certainly ranked higher than the team Ohio State played.  Just boggles the mind...

by The Beef on Nov 25, 2007 3:06 PM CST reply actions  

Couple things
1. Let's all take a moment and exhale. WVU will most likely get the #2 curse pressure (and I'm still not sold on this team. Team's are playing down to them, not up. Let's go Pitt!).

2. Ohio State is getting #1 votes because they're Ohio State. And Ohio State is supposed to be good.  They're supposed to be better than Missouri. They play in the vaunted Big 10, with teams like Michigan, Penn State, Purdue, and Wisconsin. Nevermind that all those teams are mediocre at best.  They decide that the Big 10 is good, and that's it. Ohio State's loss is to a team that we beat. Our only loss is to a team that a lot of people still think is one of the best in the country. Ohio State has only looked dominant over teams that are pathetic, and have squeaked by everybody else. But they're The Ohio State University. And we're Mizzou.

I'm serious. If we were Nebraska, we'd be #1 by a mile. Because we'd be Nebraska. They can't deal with the concept that new teams are coming up, that there is a new regime coming. No, Ohio State's always been good, Ohio State will always be good. Don't mind the complete annihilation in the title game last year. That has nothing to do with it.

You may recall many of these reasons for the same reason Tebow's going to win the Heisman.

You know what, though? I'm glad. Keep doubting. We just keep turning it all over.

by Ridiculous Matt on Nov 25, 2007 3:24 PM CST up reply actions  

Back in town

Just in time to see Mizzou as the new BCS No. 1!

by RPT on Nov 25, 2007 3:35 PM CST reply actions  

Shock...

As a life-long MU fan, I find it a very strange sensation to not have a whole lot to be "Mizzou Fan-y" about.

Sure, I think a lot of the calls in the game yesterday were blatantly against MU without good reason (and more importantly the same calls weren't made against KU).

Sure, tOSU is getting #1 votes in some "expert's" infinite wisdom.

Sure, Daniel probably won't win the Heisman because he plays for... well, us.

But at the end of the day, we're number one in the country and my heart has been made very light.

by n8dawg on Nov 25, 2007 4:12 PM CST reply actions  

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