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Basketball Live Thread - Mizzou vs. USC in Puerto Rico

Mizzou Basketball in Puerto Rico


Where Mizzou gets its revenge on Tim Floyd for the whole "Julius Michalik" experience.

Who: Missouri vs. USC
Where: Coliseo De Puerto Rico (capacity: 18,000)
When: 11:30 a.m. CST
TV: ESPN U
Online Viewing: ESPN 360.com
Online Listening: KFNS.com (with a free and quick registration)


MIZZOU Team Leaders

Stat Player AVG
Scoring Leo Lyons 18.2
Rebounds Leo Lyons 6.8
Assists Zaire Taylor 4.2
FG% Steve Moore 100.0
FT% Matt Lawrence 100.0
3PT% Keith Ramsey 70.0
Blocks Zaire Taylor 0.8
Steals J.T. Tiller 3.0


USC Team Leaders

Stat Player AVG
Scoring Taj Gibson 18.8
Rebounds Taj Gibson 12.2
Assists Daniel Hackett 6.8
FG% Leonard Washington 60.0
FT% Daniel Hackett 80.0
3PT% Leonard Washington 50.0
Blocks Taj Gibson 4.5
Steals Daniel Hackett 2.2

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Are we sure the game is on ESPN360?

The ESPN scoreboard isn’t indicating that it is.

by Transmogrified Tiger on Nov 23, 2008 11:18 AM CST reply actions  

Hmm...

…might have been an assumption on my part, but I have no idea why it WOULDN’T be on 360…

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by Bill C. on Nov 23, 2008 11:31 AM CST up reply actions  

Any update on how it's going?

I cant find it streaming anywhere that is compatible with my mac.

by mizzouglen on Nov 23, 2008 12:01 PM CST reply actions  

Glen

You can borrow my computer if I can borrow your internet provider that lets you watch ESPN360

by phe4g6 on Nov 23, 2008 12:14 PM CST up reply actions  

3-3

putback for USC and Gibson split a pair, then Tiller knocked down a 3.

And now a dunk for USC. 5-3

by Transmogrified Tiger on Nov 23, 2008 12:05 PM CST reply actions  

Online listening?

I’m getting football scores, but I just turned it on. Should I be concerned?

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by UribeAuction on Nov 23, 2008 12:14 PM CST reply actions  

It would seem radio stations actually are not supposed to be

streaming the games on their on-line sites…evidently it violates something in the contracts, so I think the fact I found the game on Thursday was a fluke

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by The Beef on Nov 23, 2008 12:20 PM CST up reply actions  

Tiller with a phantom call

and USC tips in the missed FT, 17-13 Trojans

BOX OUT

by Transmogrified Tiger on Nov 23, 2008 12:15 PM CST reply actions  

Gibson gets his 3rd foul

his second on a loose ball at the offensive end

22-19 USC, 8:30 to play

by Transmogrified Tiger on Nov 23, 2008 12:27 PM CST reply actions  

That is huge...we HAVE to take advantage here

though we have done nothing inside so far

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by The Beef on Nov 23, 2008 12:27 PM CST up reply actions  

Carroll is jumper happy today

hopefully he and Leo start going off the dribble more

by Transmogrified Tiger on Nov 23, 2008 12:28 PM CST up reply actions  

You guys are so far ahead of me. He just got the foul here.

by phe4g6 on Nov 23, 2008 12:28 PM CST reply actions  

well...you dont want to know what happens next :-)

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by The Beef on Nov 23, 2008 12:28 PM CST up reply actions  

Game is at an interesting point

Anderson has made a point to play the “kids” in this tourney…but I think a win is bigger today for the program than the experience (of which there will be plenty more chances). Do you ride the starters right now for perhaps the better shot at the win, or do you stay with the gameplan of playing the freshman and perhaps not give your team the best shot to win?

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by The Beef on Nov 23, 2008 12:31 PM CST reply actions  

I disagree

I think our ceiling becomes a lot higher the sooner the kids get a little seasoning, and since I don’t really see the NCAA tourney as a possibility, I’m all for seasoning. Does that make me optimistically pessimistic?

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by Bill C. on Nov 23, 2008 12:36 PM CST up reply actions  

Well...given our lack of offensive movement

given our continuing of chucking up 3’s and missing free throws…does not look like it is going to matter who is playing today :-)

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by The Beef on Nov 23, 2008 12:37 PM CST up reply actions  

And since the alternative to playing the kids...

…is playing an okay point guard, a streaky 3-point shooter, an energy guy who’s a lot more valuable as a bench guy than a starter, and two PF’s who can’t shoot FT’s, I’m that much more for playing the kids.

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by Bill C. on Nov 23, 2008 12:38 PM CST up reply actions  

If we are looking ahead then (given the seasoning we are seeing)

Wow….what happens to our somewhat non-existent inside game next season when we lose Carroll and Lyons? 30 3’s per game? :-)

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by The Beef on Nov 23, 2008 12:41 PM CST up reply actions  

And man oh man...

…these are the hardest rims I’ve ever heard. Even when you just nick them, they make a horrific metal “CLANG” sound…

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by Bill C. on Nov 23, 2008 12:39 PM CST reply actions  

Every time they take a 3...

…I think “Yeah, I’ll give them that shot” because either it’s 3 feet beyond the line, or the dude couldn’t figure out what else to do with it so he yanked the shot up…and every time I say that, they make it. Luckily I’m about to go to an open house, so I won’t be able to jinx us any more (since the USC lead has gone up about 8 points since I started watching live)…

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by Bill C. on Nov 23, 2008 12:46 PM CST reply actions  

Nice hustle by Safford...

yeah…I dont think it should have counted, but it counts all the same. Ironic that it was one of the first times we scored on the inside since Gibson went to the bench :-)

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by The Beef on Nov 23, 2008 12:51 PM CST reply actions  

Well..what do you think we should have done since he went to the bench?

Keep chucking them up from the outside or try to get our two leading scorers in rythym on the inside?

This may help you, but understand that I think Anderson needs to win THIS YEAR perhaps more than most, given what is going to leave our team and how we are going to go back to being a “young” team next year. Coming out of here 1-2, especially given how we played in the 2 is not my idea of a successful trip, regardless of the “seasoning” they are getting

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by The Beef on Nov 23, 2008 12:54 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm just watching the game.

I’m not extremely optimistic about the future of the program, but I know that a) I don’t feel like making harsh judgments every time they do something bad, and b) I’m applying the “Next Time” theory to Mizzou—the next time Mizzou’s actually good (which probably won’t be this year), it will be with the current freshmen, not with MLaw, etc. Everything is viewed through that prism.

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by Bill C. on Nov 23, 2008 12:57 PM CST up reply actions  

Well..I am just looking at the program

and seeing not a whole lot new from year to year and game to game. And I am of the belief that without some change at a very basic and fundamental level, your “next time” may unfortunately refer to the next coach and not the next class of freshmen since I dont see much adjustment or coaching going on…just people trying to find their way perhaps at the expense of wins and losses which I view as (more) important (than you).

And if a live blog is not for talking about positives and negatives in a game…then I am not too sure what the point is :-)

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by The Beef on Nov 23, 2008 1:01 PM CST up reply actions  

By the way...why do they refer to it as the 4th place game?

Isn’t it the 5th place game? Is someone earning a tie that I don’t know about?

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by The Beef on Nov 23, 2008 1:05 PM CST reply actions  

They keep mentioning it over and over

it’s like they want people to realize they’re wrong

by Transmogrified Tiger on Nov 23, 2008 1:09 PM CST up reply actions  

so it is not just me...

this should be for 5th….Va Tech and Seton Hall for 3rd and the champ game for….you know…2nd? :-)

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by The Beef on Nov 23, 2008 1:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Ah Tiller...drink 2 right there

but ugh…3 fouls…wow

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by The Beef on Nov 23, 2008 1:07 PM CST reply actions  

Meanwhile...Bears are KILLING the Rams 21-3

Why does St. Louis even bother fielding a team anymore? Any team that makes the Bears offense looks good should be banished from the NFL.

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by UribeAuction on Nov 23, 2008 1:12 PM CST reply actions  

63 total yards fo rthe Rams LATE in the half...

just sad…

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by The Beef on Nov 23, 2008 1:21 PM CST up reply actions  

this is late but...

GO BEARS!!!!!

I'm the guy that keeps Mr. Death in his pocket.

by Mizzou Grad on Nov 23, 2008 7:37 PM CST up reply actions  

Lyons gets Gibson his 4th

we’re doing a better job of getting inside and getting good looks too, helps that Carroll is knocking down open jumpers.

And Leo hits BOTH free throws!

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Are you sure?

by Transmogrified Tiger on Nov 23, 2008 1:22 PM CST reply actions  

There we go...nice play by Leo

got to go after Gibson and finally get him out of there for a good 7-10 minutes. Need to clamp down on the defensive end set some stuff up on offense

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by The Beef on Nov 23, 2008 1:22 PM CST reply actions  

Cannot believe Carroll just stepped back

but they are falling for him all day today…Leo goes to the line to try to tie it

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by The Beef on Nov 23, 2008 1:23 PM CST reply actions  

I mean to cut it to one

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by The Beef on Nov 23, 2008 1:23 PM CST up reply actions  

I mean to keep it a 2-point game....sigh

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by The Beef on Nov 23, 2008 1:24 PM CST up reply actions  

Well..tied at 55 at the under 12

energy finally came up after the early timeout and we are getting the ball to the hole better.

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by The Beef on Nov 23, 2008 1:26 PM CST reply actions  

USC has gotten away with a couple borderline walks

in trying to break the pressure, hopefully that bites them down the stretch

by Transmogrified Tiger on Nov 23, 2008 1:31 PM CST reply actions  

they are getting to the rack...just did not finish each time

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by The Beef on Nov 23, 2008 1:33 PM CST up reply actions  

oh...that does not sound good for USC...

Cunningham for USC….ugh

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by The Beef on Nov 23, 2008 1:32 PM CST reply actions  

USC in real trouble now too

Cunningham had 11 and 6…and looks to be pretty much done…and Gibson still has 4 fouls. Hate for it to happen, but Mizzou just needs to pound it inside over and over

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by The Beef on Nov 23, 2008 1:35 PM CST up reply actions  

Jeez...USC gets it right back inside and finds another scorer

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by The Beef on Nov 23, 2008 1:35 PM CST up reply actions  

Nice feed and great finish by Ramsey inside

C’mon….take the lead now

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by The Beef on Nov 23, 2008 1:37 PM CST reply actions  

there we go 62-61 with 8:45 to go

but Gibson is back in and takes the lead back..got to get Gibson out of the game

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by The Beef on Nov 23, 2008 1:38 PM CST up reply actions  

Boy...English is not shy about shooting the ball

was hoping one of those would go down…then commits the foul on the other end.

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by The Beef on Nov 23, 2008 1:40 PM CST reply actions  

just because he leaned his arm over Carroll

before the shot doesn’t mean it’s not a foul when he does shoot it.

And English’s legs are failing him.

by Transmogrified Tiger on Nov 23, 2008 1:40 PM CST reply actions  

big shot by Lyons also

and an offensive foul..good 2 minutes here for the Tigers

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by The Beef on Nov 23, 2008 1:44 PM CST up reply actions  

How many charges have we drawn today?

It’s gotta be about 5-6, more than we have the rest of the season combined.

by Transmogrified Tiger on Nov 23, 2008 1:45 PM CST reply actions  

Well...I think I figured it out

I just wont watch games for the first 30 minutes….much easier on the soul evidently :-)

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by The Beef on Nov 23, 2008 1:45 PM CST reply actions  

wow...great great action...

good awareness by Denmon to go right at Gibson and then solid finish after the steal by Lyons

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by The Beef on Nov 23, 2008 1:48 PM CST reply actions  

25 points for Carroll so far

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by The Beef on Nov 23, 2008 1:50 PM CST reply actions  

lucky shot there by Carroll...not the play you want

But he has been on all day today…going our way in the 2nd

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by The Beef on Nov 23, 2008 1:52 PM CST up reply actions  

good look rims out for Taylor

then bad luck on a block gives USC an easy bucket, nuts

by Transmogrified Tiger on Nov 23, 2008 1:52 PM CST reply actions  

Eh..OK look but I thought early in the shot clock

PG should be looking to reverse the ball there and not take that deep of a 3….

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by The Beef on Nov 23, 2008 1:53 PM CST up reply actions  

and the luck spins right back

Carroll stares down his man for 8 seconds and then knocks down a 3, then trap in the corner gets a turnover.

Mizzou up 8 at the under 4

by Transmogrified Tiger on Nov 23, 2008 1:53 PM CST reply actions  

crappy foul call on Carroll

player was out of control…Mizzou just needs to work the clock and hit the FT’s they are going to be given.

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by The Beef on Nov 23, 2008 1:57 PM CST reply actions  

great look from Carroll...

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by The Beef on Nov 23, 2008 1:59 PM CST reply actions  

So...those are hockey boards in that arena...

they have ice in Puerto Rico? Interesting…

But hey….great 2nd half to give the Tigers…um…4th place.

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by The Beef on Nov 23, 2008 2:00 PM CST reply actions  

Well..but there was a blue line though :-)

pretty sure the lines are not colored in soccer…no idea what futsal is though, but they sure look like hockey boards behind the scorer’s table

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by The Beef on Nov 23, 2008 2:03 PM CST up reply actions  

it's for ice hockey...

futsal is played on a court about the size of a basketball court.

by CPC on Nov 23, 2008 2:04 PM CST up reply actions  

check this out:

Just two short years ago, Puerto Rican ice hockey seemed to have a promising future. Prior to the start of the 2006-07 National Hockey League season, Puerto Rico became the first place in the Americas south of Florida to host a professional game when the New York Rangers and Florida Panthers faced off in an exhibition game at the 18,500-seat José Miguel Agrelot Coliseum (also called the Coliseo de Puerto Rico) in San Juan.

by CPC on Nov 23, 2008 2:05 PM CST up reply actions  

I checked the PR Tip-off Web site

and it was indeed for fourth place. The Seton Hall-VA Tech game is for third, and the loser gets fifth. USC gets sixth. Makes sense, because then 3rd and 4th will have 2-1 records and 5 and 6 will have 1-2 records.

by calim on Nov 23, 2008 5:08 PM CST up reply actions  

4-1

That is the record I was hoping we would have after this trip. But I had us losing to Memphis. I call the trip a success.

by phe4g6 on Nov 23, 2008 2:03 PM CST reply actions  

This team has already surprised me

They are gonna win almost all of their non-con games and might pull off a ranking going into Big 12 play.

Your 2008 Missouri Tigers! #12 9-2 (5-2). Next up kU at Arrowhead. BIG 12 NORTH CHAMPS!

by nji232 on Nov 23, 2008 2:14 PM CST reply actions  

With eight games to come against . . .

Nebraska, Iowa State, Colorado and K-State, there is opportunity ahead. This win was big for them. If they make it on to the bubble, this will be one of the key wins they point to. Cal and Illinois are going to be big opportunity games. And Georgia has been stfuggling. Good chance for a road win against a BCS school.

by Michael Atchison on Nov 23, 2008 2:26 PM CST up reply actions  

unfortunatley until they show me otherwise

I have to assume we lose our Big 12 road games. This team is clearly better than the teams that have struggled on the road recently, but I still don’t know if they are able to avoid stupid games.

Your 2008 Missouri Tigers! #12 9-2 (5-2). Next up kU at Arrowhead. BIG 12 NORTH CHAMPS!

by nji232 on Nov 23, 2008 2:45 PM CST up reply actions  

Wait, we won???


What the hell did I miss?

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by UribeAuction on Nov 23, 2008 3:00 PM CST reply actions  

I'll say this much...

…a) Mike Kelly is soooooooooo much better at basketball than football, and b) nobody excites me more with monotone than MK. It was like an excited drone to his voice when he said “And MISSOURI HAS TIED THIS GAME” with 11 minutes left.

Nice win. It will always feel like we’re yanking up too many 3-pointers, but this team certainly has a lot more potential hot hands to ride. Granted, there won’t be many games where Tiller and Carroll go 6-for-6 from 3-point range and the rest of team goes 1-for-11 (actually, I NEVER thought I’d see that happen), but between Tiller, Denmon, M-Law, Paul, and English, chances are ONE of those players will be a relatively hot hand at any given time. That’s heartening…since we will clearly always be a team that takes a lot of 3’s whether we’re making them or not…

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by Bill C. on Nov 23, 2008 4:05 PM CST reply actions  

someone didn't watch the game

DeRozan wasn’t touched on the play where he got hurt. If somehow Bowers barely caught him with the knee, and that was the source of his injury, well then it’s a miracle he’s not in Elijah Price territory right now.

by Transmogrified Tiger on Nov 24, 2008 12:33 AM CST reply actions  

Seriously...

…it wasn’t even a hard foul…it wasn’t even a foul. There wasn’t even contact.

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by Bill C. on Nov 24, 2008 5:21 AM CST up reply actions  

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