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What if Mizzou had beaten Oklahoma State?

I know a lot of people don’t like hypothetical situations like the one I’m about to describe, but I think this one is worth exploring.  As we all know, the Big 12 (in particular, the Big 12 South) is in quite the predicament at the moment thanks to my three favorite letters: B-C-S.  With a log jam in the South and three great teams who have beaten each other, it may create a historic mess when all is said and done.

 

Keep in mind that it actually could have been even worse.  How would things look right now had MU scored on their last possession and ended up beating Oklahoma State at home as was expected? They could be heading into the Big 12 Title game a one loss team (assuming they beat Kansas, but nothing is guaranteed of course in such a rivalry of course).  If they were then to beat a one loss team from the South division for the title, where would that have placed Mizzou in the BCS and bowl picture?  

 

Things to consider that would have hurt Mizzou’s case:

  • Overall, Mizzou ended up having a very easy schedule this year
    • Neutral field games against two out of state rivals in Kansas and Illinois (both of whom, Illinois especially, underacheived this season big time)
    • The Big 12 North was very, very weak this season
    • No Oklahoma or Texas Tech on the schedule
    • Lopsided loss to the one power (Texas) on the schedule prior to the Big 12 Title game

 

There would still be a good chance that both Texas and Texas Tech would have higher BCS totals than Mizzou based on their strength of schedule.  If that was the case, Mizzou fans would have been none to happy after being shunned by the BCS last season.  It could have made for quite a pickle. 

 

What do you guys think would have happened if the above scenario had played out?  Maybe it would have been enough to finally topple the mighty BCS and lay the groundwork for a playoff.

 

**Of course, Mizzou still has an opportunity to turn things on its head, but things could have been far worse had we beaten Oklahoma State with the potential to pull off an upset in the Big 12 Title.  Still, I will be all the happier if the Tigers pull off the upset in KC.  I’ll be down there for the game and hoping for the best.

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I've thought about that as well

But, like you alluded to in your opening paragraph, it’s something I’d just as soon not think about because it only brings sorrow.

I also think if we beat Oklahoma State, we don’t get hammered nearly as bad in Austin. That OSU game definitely beat us twice (not saying we’d have beaten UT, but our psyche definitely wasn’t all there for the opening kickoff).

In some ways, however, I think our two losses (again, assuming we beat kU), give us a better shot to win the Big 12 title game. Right now, it’s just a foregone conclusion that we’re going to lose to whoever we play in the title game (and we might very well do exactly that). But ALL of the pressure will be on who we play. And assuming a decided victory over the Jennison Jayhawkers, then we’ll have a nice Mizzou crowd to support us during the championship.

I’m not going to predict a win or anything, but I like being under the radar a little bit. As the great sports philosopher Lou Brown once said, “I’m not much for giving inspirational addresses, but I’d just like to point out that every newspaper in the country has picked us to lose. The local press seems to think that we’d save everyone the time and trouble if we just went out and shot ourselves. Me, I’m for wasting sportswriters’ time. So I figured we ought to hang around for a while and see if we can give ’em all a nice big shitburger to eat!”

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by mitch cumstein on Nov 25, 2008 12:58 PM CST   0 recs

One quick thing
There would still be a good chance that both Texas and Texas Tech would have higher BCS totals than Mizzou based on their strength of schedule.

Remember that Oklahoma State’s value to the strength of schedule component drops if they don’t defeat Mizzou

by rptgwb on Nov 25, 2008 1:07 PM CST   0 recs

It would come down the the conference title game

I would predict that the current top-10 would be:
1. Alabama
2. Oklahoma
3. Texas
4. Missouri
5. Florida
6. Southern California
7. Utah
8. Penn State
9. Texas Tech
10. Boise State

Missouri is ahead of Florida because a loss at Texas (over a month ago) doesn’t hurt as bad as a loss at home vs. Ole Miss.
Texas Tech played a weaker OSU team, so that ding to their SOS drops them below Penn St.
Texas loses a few points in SOS from beating a weaker OSU team and is below Oklahoma. Ironically, in reality, the fact that OSU beat MU makes OU’s game against them the likely push past Texas in BCS Rankings.

Assuming all 4 teams win, OU plays Missouri in the Conference Title game, no different than what is the situation in reality.

HOWEVER: I predict that a top-5 Missouri would not be as likely to catch Oklahoma off-guard, and would have less chance of beating OU in the Conference Title game.

Missouri would likely lose to a motivated OU team, but get an invite to their 2nd straight Cotton Bowl

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by Andy--01 on Nov 25, 2008 6:40 PM CST   0 recs

I think Texas would be ahead of OU in this situation.

Seriously, how would UT be behind OU with wins over your #2 & #4? But what do I know, I don’t think OU should be ranked ahead of UT now.

by ajax77777 on Nov 26, 2008 12:02 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

Might be, but also could be a wash

they beat an OSU with 1 more loss and a Missouri with 1 less loss. The SOS in the computers has to do with opponent’s record and opponent’s opponent’s record. I don’t know the actual mathematics that goes into it, but I’m pretty sure that additional game played between two teams that Texas has already played wouldn’t really change their position.

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by Andy--01 on Nov 26, 2008 8:31 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

Shows anything can happen in college football

If Mizzou would have beaten Okie St., we would be in the national title contention. If we would go on to win the big 12 with only one loss it would have been possible. Ever since that loss Daniel hasn’t been the same quarterback. It still would be nice to kill Kansas and win the big 12. Then we would still get a BCS bowl. But there is a lot IF’s in the world.

by The_Baller on Nov 27, 2008 2:19 PM CST   0 recs

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