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As discussed by Gabe in the PowerMizzou Mailbag today, every Mizzou fan is painfully aware that Missouri was two plays away from an 11-1 season.

A week ago, one of our readers posed the question: What if Mizzou had beaten Oklahoma State? Thanks to the greatness of the Colley Matrix, we're able to find out.

Now, because of the events of the past week, I'll have to add the addendum "and Kansas" to the end of the original question.

Now, while the change in human polls is impossible to quantify in a predictive manner, had Missouri beaten OSU and Kansas, this week's BCS rankings would look something like this:

Rank Team Record BCS Rating
1 Texas 11-1 0.93908
2 Oklahoma 11-1 .91194
3 Alabama 12-0 .90412
4 Florida 11-1 .90412
5 Utah 12-0 .89992
6 MISSOURI 11-1 .86786
7 USC 10-1 .86372
8 Texas Tech 11-1 .86108
9 Boise State 12-0 .85765
10 Penn State 11-1 .85497

Notice the change at the top. If Texas fans are angry at Missouri for losing to Kansas, imagine what a win over Oklahoma State would have done to help their case. A win over an 11-1 Missouri team instead of a 9-3 Missouri team pushes Texas into a commanding lead in the BCS, and into the Big 12 Title game.

Now the question becomes, would Missouri have still been in national title talk if the Tigers would have been able to avenge their only loss in the Big 12 title game? To best analyze this change, it'll have to be conditionally based on the result of the SEC Championship Game between Georgia and Florida.

First, if Alabama beats Florida:

Rank Team Record BCS Rating
1 Alabama 13-0 0.94307
2 Oklahoma 11-1 .90938
3 Texas 11-2 .90441
4 MISSOURI 12-1 .90245
5 Utah 12-0 .87220

Now, again, this system is unable to account for the swing in human voting, as I assume that there's no way pollsters would keep a one-loss team who avenged its sole loss behind the two-loss team it just beat. But that just goes to show that the computers would have been more impressed with Texas' season as a whole than Missouri's.

Would anything have changed if Florida were to beat Bama?

Rank Team Record BCS Rating
1 Florida 12-1 0.93631
2 Oklahoma 11-1 .90948
3 Texas 11-2 .90429
4 MISSOURI 12-1 .90263
5 Utah 12-0 .90015

So, barring some major pollster love (which, while not guaranteed, would have certainly been plausible), Missouri avenging its loss to Texas would have meant little to the computers.

All we can derive here is that if Missouri had won those two close games, the Tigers would very likely be awaiting the Longhorns, not the Sooners, in Kansas City. From there, it would have been up to the voters to give Mizzou a title nod if the Tigers could have somehow pulled off the upset en route to a Big 12 title.

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mental masturbation at its best

must be the end of college football season…

by leghumpingjihadkiller on Dec 4, 2008 12:20 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

We could always analyze MU/OU

But I figured that might actually be more depressing.

by RPT on Dec 4, 2008 12:37 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

From a Texas perspective CU losing to NU screwed us far more.

If Colorado had beaten Nebraska, and this weekend OU beats Mizzou, and Cincy beats Hawaii, colley matrix would rank the teams
1 – Texas
2 – OU
3 – Florida
And if Hawaii beat Cincy instead, OU and Florida would swap, but Texas would still be #1.

As it stands, Florida/Bama winner will be #1 if Hawaii beats Cincy, and if Cincy beats Hawaii, either both OU and Bama would jump us, or OU will with Florida coming in at #3.

As you know, in the computers one ranking position can be huge, and the difference between the Texas/Florida margin being 2 spots or one spot could be the difference to determine the MNC contenders.

So thanks Colorado.

Of course if Mizzou wins, then its all good for Texas anyway! Go Tigers!

by BoddickerIsClutch on Dec 4, 2008 1:38 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

#4 in the Nation

That’s more like it. As make believe as a solid economy, but hell I’ll take it.

"Wherever you go, there you are" - Buckaroo Bonzai

by brik on Dec 4, 2008 3:25 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

if if if if

if any one of the Big 12 teams were in the ACC or Big East they would be going to the Orange Bowl……what a load of…………….

Regardless who wins the Big 12 the fact that a couple of never were’s are in a major bowl makes my stomach hurt.

Also we should do away with the whole North/South thing and just play a round robin of 8 games then the best two records go to the championship

by blackbeard on Dec 4, 2008 4:09 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Hell no, we shouldn't get rid of the North/South thing!

It helps Missouri tremendously! I love it!

Kidding aside, switching to a 12-team, 8-game round robin would mean a LOT of teams in geographic proximity to each other would no longer play each other every year, and I think that would be a bad thing…even if you designated a “key rival”, that would still mean that games like MU/NU…or either MU/KU or KU/KSU…or either OU/OSU or OU/UT…or either UT/TT or TT/ATM…a lot of fun annual matchups wouldn’t be fun anymore, and that would be a bigtime shame.

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by Bill C. on Dec 4, 2008 4:39 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

"Never Were's"
the fact that a couple of never were’s are in a major bowl makes my stomach hurt.

Technically, Tech and Missouri are “never were’s.”

Doing away with the North/South division lines would be a case of the rich getting richer. If that’s the case, why not just let Texas/Oklahoma form their own conference? Plus, if all the teams play a round robin, how long will it be before someone complains about strength of schedule and a certain team not having to play another?

That seems like trading one set of problems for a whole new set of problems.

by RPT on Dec 4, 2008 4:27 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

DAMN!

There’s a reason he’s the Professor!

"Wherever you go, there you are" - Buckaroo Bonzai

by brik on Dec 4, 2008 4:44 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

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