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Who will win the national championship, Florida or Oklahoma? And any Super Bowl predictions?

Brazinski: Oklahoma will win in a shootout. It'll be a close game, though. As for the Super Bowl, Steelers will beat the Giants. That won't be popular back in New Jersey where everyone is a Giants fan.

Campanaro: Florida will win, because the SEC plays the best defense and it has Tim Tebow. As for the Super Bowl, I think the Eagles will finally win the ring for Donovan McNabb.

Jenkins: Florida will win with its speed. I don't think Oklahoma sees speed like that on a weekly basis. Since my Redskins are out, I don't know. I can't go for the Eagles or Giants because they are in the same division as the Skins.

Martin: Florida will win with speed. The Super Bowl is an easy one; I'm a huge Indianapolis Colts fan.

Patterson: Florida has the speed. The Falcons will win the Super Bowl. I'm from Georgia.

Shepard: Florida will win because of Tim Tebow's leadership and the overall speed of the SEC. The Super Bowl is too tight to call.

Te'o: Florida has a game-changer like Tim Tebow and the overall team speed. Since the 49ers can't win the Super Bowl -- that's my favorite team -- I'll go with the Baltimore Ravens. Ray Lewis is my idol; I look up to him and emulate him.

From some of the nation's top recruits. Of all the advantages Florida might have over OU, I hadn't considered "speed" to be one of them. But maybe I'm just underestimating ESSSSSSSSSSSSSS-EEEEEEEEEEEEEEE-SEEEEEEEEEEEE SPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDD!!!!!

about 3 years ago Babyfoot_tiny Bill C. 9 comments 0 recs  | 

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ESSSSSS EEEEEE CEEEEEE SPEEEEEEEEEED can be counteracted…but only with EMMMMMMMM WWWWWWEEEEWWWWWW EEEEEEEE SPEEEEEEEEED.

It's a funny name.

by Turd Ferguson on Jan 4, 2009 2:22 PM CST reply actions  

I'm sorry...

M Wew E?

What is that?

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by Andy--01 on Jan 4, 2009 6:02 PM CST up reply actions  

Whoops

I meant to say “MWC”. Not unlike a certain other sporting site, this place needs an edit button.

It's a funny name.

by Turd Ferguson on Jan 4, 2009 11:53 PM CST up reply actions  

Looks like we got a war of words

Dominique Franks thinks Tebow would be the fourth best QB in the Big 12

I’m really sick about hearing how great the SEC still is, but that doesn’t mean I’m going to root for OU. Can there be a tie, pretty please?

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by UribeAuction on Jan 4, 2009 2:33 PM CST reply actions  

Oh God. Not SEC speed again...

SEC speed and athleticism is the most unfalsifiable proposition in the history of words.

No amount of counter-evidence is enough. No number of blah performances outside the conference can alter the unalterable truth that the SEC is bigger, stronger, and faster than everybody else. That’s all you hear.

The SEC has two quality wins this post-season coming into the BCS (Ole Miss and LSU) coupled with two atrocious losses (S. Carolina and Alabama). In the most high profile win, Ole Miss athletically outclassed Tech, BUT STILL gave up 34 to a team with an injured Crabtree. The ONLY truly physically dominant SEC win this post-season was LSU all over Ga. Tech. (But c’mon. A halfway decent defense with a month to prepare should be able to shut down an option offense. Big 8/Big 12 teams learned that lesson twenty years ago.) In both horrible losses the SEC team was not more athletic in any key matchup. S. Carolina’s receivers never got close to open—not that it would have mattered much. Greene ran up, down, over, and through one of the conferences elite defenses. And of course Utah was even more impressive in their beat down of Alabama because the Tide didn’t turn it over anything like the frequency S. Carolina did. Utah came out and ran ’Bama’s defense ragged from the opening kickoff until the final whistle.

The SEC didn’t look athletically dominant in officiating-aided close wins over BC and E. Carolina. Georgia looked good, I’ll grant that, but it was over one-trick pony Michigan State, who didn’t beat a decent team out of conference all year. In fact Georgia was the only team to beat MSU but fail to score at least 30. Big whoop. Like all other things Georgia when you step back and look at the big picture, it’s really kinda disappointing. UGa, I remain dazzled by your ability to do less with more.

Florida may beat OU, I can’t call it. Who has spit the bit in the post-season more than Bob Stoops except for perhaps Bob Huggins? So that gives me pause. But I’ve seen both teams play. Florida doesn’t look more athletic than OU to me. If they do beat OU it won’t be some vindication of SEC speed or athleticism. Florida is an elite team. But Alabama, Georgia, and Mississippi are a clear step down—the same way Tech and OSU are a clear step down from OU and Texas.

"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin

by dcrockett17 on Jan 4, 2009 4:23 PM CST reply actions  

yeah...

…I rec’d the crap out of this. Well doen.

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by Bill C. on Jan 4, 2009 7:30 PM CST up reply actions  

Well reasoned

My only objection:

SEC teams won’t go on the road and play anybody in another time zone. Tennessee was the only team that left its time zone to play a BCS automatic qualifier (an OT loss at UCLA). Florida never left the state of Florida to play a BCS qualifier out of conference (FSU and Miami).

Why should distance be a factor? Florida still managed to play two quality opponents in FSU and Miami. The fact that they never saw a “Leaving: Florida” sign along the way shouldn’t matter as long as they aren’t feasting on regional cupcakes.

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by RPT on Jan 5, 2009 12:04 AM CST up reply actions  

It matters...

because the road is where a team is most likely to play against type. Home field is a HUGE predictor of winning between evenly matched teams in college football. There was an analysis done by two guys in the Journal for Quantitative Analysis in Sports (link to .pdf, scroll to pp. 24-25) a few years ago. Their model, calibrated on the 2003 and 2004 seasons, estimates that home field advantage in contests between two evenly matched teams is between 65 and 69%.

Florida plays very few “true” non-conference road games against the BCS. To my knowledge, Florida has played no games against BCS automatic qualifiers outside of state since the 1990s. (I’m repeating something someone told me, but I think it is true.) A major part of the challenge of playing high caliber non-conference opponents (i.e., the type that can command a home-and-home series) is actually having to face an unfamiliar opponent in completely hostile territory. Florida, despite having played some quality non-conf. opponents, has managed to dilute part of that difficulty by never really traveling. Florida probably sees more of their own fans at games vs. the ’Noles and the ’Canes than they do for conference games at LSU or Arkansas. To my knowledge, Tim Tebow has never had the experience of a completely hostile environment while playing an unfamiliar non-conference opponent. That has to matter at the margins. And once you get past the SEC puffery, whatever sets these two teams apart-if anything does-is at the margins.

Consider that Tennessee and Cal traded home blowouts with pretty much the same rosters for two straight years. Think about Oklahoma losing on the road to Oregon a few years ago, probably keeping them out of the title chase. Although they got jobbed by the officials at the end, Dennis Dixon was brilliant. OU’s very good defense could do nothing against them. Consider LSU going on the road (post-Katrina) to a mediocre ASU team and barely escaping (after two blocked kicks and a bomb by Russell at the end), but not until after they gave up close to 500 yards of total offense.

"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin

by dcrockett17 on Jan 5, 2009 7:41 AM CST up reply actions  

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