The learning experience continues: Missouri loses to No. 16 Oklahoma State in Stillwater, 33-17
Discuss.
UPDATE: Reactionary podcast upcoming.
UPDATE TO THE UPDATE: Running a bit long (the recording is still going as of 12:40 a.m. CDT). Bonus volleyball talk!
Podcast is up! Bill C., RPT, and Uribe filling the air with their dulcet tones, stutters, and general pissiness.. Plus there's an interesting meta moment where you can hear Uribe typing RMN comments while recording the podcast.
Big picture! Perspective! Positivity! Et cetera!
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The refs affected the game tonight
but it is a huge cop out if you put the loss squarely on them. The Tigers offense still has to make plays and they just did not do that in the 2nd half for whatever reason. I believe the play calling was insanely bad tonight, but the guys still have to go out there and execute and they did not.
"Elvis Andrus has just preformed a MIRACLE!"
-Eric Nadel, 5/4/09
by Mizzou12 on Oct 17, 2009 11:53 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
the offense and special teams kind of sucked...the refs just made the game more frustrating
all that said, this team is due for some good fortune and play. i wouldn’t be surprised if they give texas a run for their money next week, but maybe i’m crazy.
by miz-zou..fku on Oct 17, 2009 11:57 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Would it be wrong...
if we accept we “might” lose to Texas, give Costello reps and get Gabbert off that ankle? It’s sad to watch.
by blackrabbit999 on Oct 17, 2009 11:58 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Well....
What’s done is done. We’ll likely lose to Texas, and then we can look forward to some unranked opponents we have a better chance against.
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by ratherfantastic on Oct 18, 2009 12:02 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
What if Mizzou, ku, and nu all go 5-3 and none of them are ranked in the final BCS standings?
After last year’s big hubub about the controversial tiebreaker a thought occurred to me today. What if there’s a 3-way tie but none of the teams are even in the final BCS rankings? It’s not totally out of the realm of possibility that an 8-4 nebraska and 9-3 Missouri and kansas teams aren’t in the top 25 at year’s end. Of course for 5-3 to happen for Mizzou it will most ultimately come at a loss next week and a victory over kansas. So with that in mind, who comes out on top?
If three or more teams are tied, steps 1 through 7 will be followed until a determination is made. If only two teams remain tied after any step, the winner of the game between the two tied teams shall be the representative.
1. The records of the three teams will be compared against each other (1-1 for all 3)
2. The records of the three teams will be compared within their division ( 4-1 for all 3, assuming ku loses to UT and OU while nu loses to OU)
3. The records of the three teams will be compared against the next highest placed teams in their division in order of fi nish (4, 5 and 6) * (3-0 for all 3) *
4. The records of the three teams will be compared against all common conference opponents; (none)
5. The highest ranked team in the fi rst Bowl Championship Series Poll following the completion of Big 12 regular season conference play shall be the representative (as outlined above, none of these mediocre teams are ranked)
6. The team with the best overall winning percentage [excluding exempted games] shall be the representative (8-4 nebraska is tossed aside here, envoking the phrase above If only two teams remain tied after any step, the winner of the game between the two tied teams shall be the representative. )
Boom.
Let chaos reign my friends.
by shaffe on Oct 18, 2009 12:07 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Are you assuming we beat Texas
Because otherwise either Mizzou or Kansas have to have 4 losses if Kansas loses to OU and UT
by Transmogrified Tiger on Oct 18, 2009 12:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you're right
For some reason I totally forgot kansas lost tonight.
We’re screwed IMO, unless nu lays another egg and we can win it outright at 5-3, because we aren’t going to win any tiebreakers unless it’s h2h with kansas.
by shaffe on Oct 18, 2009 12:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
fortunately
the Nebraska offense looks incredibly mediocre, meaning that Colorado/K-State/Baylor/Iowa State can hang around and maybe catch some breaks against them.
As for now, welcome to our current North overlords….Kansas State.
by Transmogrified Tiger on Oct 18, 2009 12:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
we just have to try and beat texas saturday
though it almost definately won’t happen, if we win all the other games and hope for ku and nu to slip up a few times, we can still win the north. But it will take some luck, something that seems to be hard to come by for mizzou these days.
"The field mouse is fast but the owl sees at night"
by pinkelposse on Oct 18, 2009 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Ed Cunningham can figure out
that the DE can crash the zone read cause Gabbert is immobile, then something needs to be done. Why didn’t we fake a jet sweep and/or use two back sets more often to negate this? Very frustrating night to combine that with Gabbert being up and down throwing the ball as well.
However, for some perspective, the North isn’t out of reach. We can lose to Texas and still win out after that, Nebraska can lose to OU and KU, and KU can lose to all 3 south teams on their schedule.
by Transmogrified Tiger on Oct 18, 2009 12:12 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Lackluster
Uninspiring, poor coaching, poor play calling.
OSU gave us opportunities. We beat ourselves. Even with the ref poor judgement calls, we could have still been in it if we had a freakin brain.
Costello can’t be that bad? WTF.
by comotiger on Oct 18, 2009 12:20 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
This Kennedy assassination documentary on History Channel...
…is fascinating.
What do tigers dream of when they take a little tiger snooze? Do they dream of mauling zebras, or Halle Berry in her Catwoman suit?
by ghtd36 on Oct 18, 2009 12:50 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I watched some of it earlier...it's great.
As was last night’s Lincoln one.
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by Bill C. on Oct 18, 2009 12:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
O coach seat potentially warmable?
Steckel is getting it done on D (nobody is panicking on that side of the ball, they come set to play when things get tough, players are developing well), but if things continue as they are, might Yost be in some hot water?
I mean sure, it’s very early days and with a young team, so it’s not unheard of that they get rattled… but they also seem to have more curious woes – odd playcalling, the TE’s are straight up MIA, there are problems getting a running game going (at worst) or consistent (at best), red zones seem to stump them…. and we’ve seen them dicing with a very valuable ankle (though THAT probably isn’t Yost’s call).
Again, it’s all very early days, but I wonder if Pinkel’s legendary loyalty might not be tested if these sorts of things don’t start improving.
and the Mustache of Truculence (formerly Canada4Mizzou)
by Wan Ihite on Oct 18, 2009 1:02 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Nah.
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by Bill C. on Oct 18, 2009 1:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well that was definitive :)
and the Mustache of Truculence (formerly Canada4Mizzou)
by Wan Ihite on Oct 18, 2009 1:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think I can give insight as to why he said it that way.
When was the last time Pinkel fired an assistant at Mizzou.
Trick question. He hasn’t. He kept the same staff through FAR worse than this for eight years. That’s unheard of. The guy is loyal and he’s found that allowing a staff to work its way through problems has produced results. I doubt six or seven bad quarters are going to change that.
by RPT on Oct 18, 2009 1:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Yost is doing fine...
…I very much disagreed with the empty backfield sets late today, but that’s just not a huge point of disagreement. Overall, Mizzou’s averaging a healthy amount of yardage considering their 7-8 new starters, and long-term I think he’ll be perfectly fine.
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by Bill C. on Oct 18, 2009 1:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Plus...
…we were two dropped passes away from 360 first half passing yards today. We can’t just give credit to the players for the good stuff and kill the coaches for the bad stuff.
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by Bill C. on Oct 18, 2009 1:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
all good analysis, thanks
To be clear, I was in no way calling for anybodies head, just scanning for patterns in the data and speculatively extrapolating to infinity (because that’s neeever a bad idea, right)
And hey, most of the contrast between the consistency in the offense and the defense is that the D has performed way AHEAD of where we thought they should be.
and the Mustache of Truculence (formerly Canada4Mizzou)
by Wan Ihite on Oct 18, 2009 1:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, I know.
But there’s going to be a BOATLOAD of people who are calling for heads, and this was a preemptive strike.
by RPT on Oct 18, 2009 1:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
For sure
Those these people seem to always focus on the head coach for some reason (I guess they just shoot at the first thing they see)..
It’s always like this. The Leafs are sucking now, and even on the smart boards the most common “solutions” offered are to send half the roster to the minors. There’s something about the sports fan psyche, that there’s no problem with one’s team that can’t be solved by subtracting the right people.
and the Mustache of Truculence (formerly Canada4Mizzou)
by Wan Ihite on Oct 18, 2009 1:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah I don't seeYost being fired either.
we just simply aren’t executing
"The field mouse is fast but the owl sees at night"
by pinkelposse on Oct 18, 2009 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
For a Stars fan
that music makes me sad.
"Elvis Andrus has just preformed a MIRACLE!"
-Eric Nadel, 5/4/09
by Mizzou12 on Oct 18, 2009 1:04 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Alright, hit refresh on this post and listen to some podcast greatness...
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by Bill C. on Oct 18, 2009 1:04 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Ready to have your head asplode?
Actual comment on a Facebook status of mine, about how we should fire Gary Pinkel.
“big deal dude… the north was down, we won the north conference because nebraska and colorado sucked…. sorry man, but nothing the last 2 years impressed me…
today on nbc, they talked about charlie weis and how he doesn’t have a signature win… where’s pinkel’s? when is the last time we beat a team in the top-5 that wasn’t an overrated … Read Morekansas team? when did we last beat texas or ou?
sorry man, pinkel is slightly better than hawkins/zook and whatever schlub iowa state has now… he’s far worse than bo, fat manigino and any coach in the south half of the conference… i’ve hated him since day 1 and i hate him now, he hasn’t accomplished enough to earn immunity"
What do tigers dream of when they take a little tiger snooze? Do they dream of mauling zebras, or Halle Berry in her Catwoman suit?
by ghtd36 on Oct 18, 2009 1:22 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
sounds about right...
…half the fanbase still hasn’t forgiven him for ditching the fullback.
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by Bill C. on Oct 18, 2009 1:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll admit
I was on the wagon when people were complaining about him not being able to make 2nd half adjustments back in 2003-2004, but he’s since proven that I was wrong. Frankly, they’re about where I thought they’d be this season—on their way to 7 or 8 wins.
by leghumpingjihadkiller on Oct 18, 2009 1:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep.
There was a point where I could write a lot of columns about wanting to fire Pinkel (up to and including 2005). But one statement says it best:
Missouri’s 22 wins over the last two seasons trail only USC and Oklahoma, who won 23 games apiece
What do tigers dream of when they take a little tiger snooze? Do they dream of mauling zebras, or Halle Berry in her Catwoman suit?
by ghtd36 on Oct 18, 2009 1:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh wow...
…the Gambling Gods did NOT take my earlier-in-the-day fake exuberance lightly…I ended up 25-27-2 today, missing FIVE games by half-points…
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by Bill C. on Oct 18, 2009 1:49 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
OMG!
You performed at a chance
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by Wan Ihite on Oct 18, 2009 1:50 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Podcast with a hidden track????
That’s a new one. Throwback to the old CD trick where you had to notice that the song was over but the track somehow had another 14 mins to play.
and the Mustache of Truculence (formerly Canada4Mizzou)
by Wan Ihite on Oct 18, 2009 1:57 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Huh...
…no idea what happened there.
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by Bill C. on Oct 18, 2009 2:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

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