Mizzou Links, 12-1-09
I work for a school that has one of the best journalism schools in the country, and I understand that there's a time and place where anonymous, unnamed sources can be used correctly and effectively, but is there any way we can set up a system where you're not allowed to use unnamed sources until you've earned it? Or better yet, is there any way we can set up a black list where, if you use unnamed sources to report rumor as fact, and it turns out there are no facts involved whatsoever, you earn a permanent spot on the list, and your reporting is never taken seriously again? This crap is ruining both political and sports reporting, and it's got to stop if it's not going to be used correctly.
I am, of course, speaking of the Scout.com report of Bob Stoops agreeing to contract principles with Notre Dame despite boatloads of evidence to the contrary. Irisheyes' Jeff Baumhower reported this yesterday, and it spread like wildfire across the Internet yesterday even though there was no confirmation of any sort of agreement. When it turned out his reporting was false, he apparently quietly changed the article to a "list of possible candidates" sort. I realize there's a rush to break stories, and that being able to say you broke a story is apparently more important than actually reporting facts, but again, I want a blacklist.
(And while we're at it, can we stop the "gotcha" crap? When Stoops says "I'm coaching at OU next year, and I can't be in two places at once," an acceptable response isn't to ask "Why didn't you just say no?" and report that he stopped short of an outright denial. He didn't. That was a denial. And besides, coaches will ALWAYS deny deny deny, whether or not something is actually going on, and there is no news here.)
But I digress.
Mizzou Football Links
- The Trib: Tigers roll into postseason
- PowerMizzou: Coaches, Prospects Hit Recruiting Trails
- The Trib: Best-laid plans, even if they are sketchy, don't go astray
KC Star (Campus Corner): Border War Wrap: Hey Biletnikoff Committee
Mizzourah: Post-game Thoughts: The End of the Mangino-Reesing Era
Atomic Teeth: Mizzou/KU Post Mortem: The Sweetest Victory of All
Dr. Saturday: Todd Reesing goes out the hard way with fading Jayhawks
Big 12 Links
- Post-Dispatch: Mangino awaits Kansas' decision
KC Star: KU assistants talk to recruits but don't have much information for them
The Tribune: Last harumph for the big man?
Lawrence Journal-World: If this is the end, how will Mangino be remembered?
Lawrence Journal-World: Uncertainty surrounds Kansas football
KC Star (Upon Further Review): With Mangino ... look not at the nature of the complaints, but that they exist at all
Joe Posnanski: You say Mangini, I say ManginoI find myself going back and forth on all these arguments, just as I go back and forth on Mark Mangino. On the one hand, I admire him a great deal. He came from nothing, worked his way up the hard way, reached the top of his profession against the craziest odds. And along the way he coached up a lot of players — players who still swear by him.
On the other hand, I don’t really know what happened behind closed doors. And there are a lot of people — not necessarily soft people either — who say Mangino bullied them. And I don’t like bullies.
...On the other hand, is a coach yelling obscenities at a player really so bad? I mean we’re asking these players to put their bodies at risk for a scholarship and our entertainment. We know they might break bones and tear muscles — is a coach yelling really going to scar them? I was talking today to an old college football offensive lineman who said that his intense coach screamed the most vile things at him … and also taught him more about life than just about anyone.
On the other hand, as a college football coach you cannot yell at a kid that he’s in danger of becoming an alcoholic like his father.
- The Ralphie Report: Dan Hawkins Interviewed by AM1510 - Klatt and Kreckman Show
- Burnt Orange Nation: Anatomy of Momentum: Replying Against A&M
Dallas Morning News: If steady wins the race, look out for Brown and Texas - Daily Oklahoman: Cowboys appear bound for Cotton vs. Ole Miss
- Omaha World-Herald (Lee Barfknecht): A promising season broken with injuries
I’m not one to look for excuses, but you can’t ignore the common denominator — injuries — that sullied a potentially super season.
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Oklahoma quarterback Sam Bradford, the reigning Heisman winner, played in 1¾ games before a throwing shoulder separation ended his year.
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At Oklahoma State, defending Big 12 rushing champion Kendall Hunter hurt his ankle in the second game and never came close to full speed again. He went from 1,555 yards and 16 touchdowns last season to 288 yards and one TD.
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Baylor’s hopes for ending a 15-year bowl drought vanished when quarterback Robert Griffin, one of the nation’s most electrifying players, went down with a torn ACL in the third game.
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Missouri started 4-0, then saw Nebraska defensive superman Ndamukong Suh whip quarterback Blaine Gabbert to the ground like a rag doll.
It’s no coincidence that while Gabbert played on the high-ankle sprain inflicted by Suh, the Tigers lost four of five games and looked bad doing it.
Kansas quarterback Todd Reesing, as suspected, played much of the Big 12 season injured (groin). His coach, Mark Mangino, left Reesing open for criticism by not acknowledging the injury until two days ago — a brutal injustice.
BASKETBALL
- The Trib: MU adjusts to reality as the hunted
- The Trib (Steve Walentik): Some things I think ... after getting back from SPI
Neither team played a packed-in defense, as I've seen some people say. Richmond, in particular, was guarding the Tigers out beyond the 3-point line and gave them very few open looks. The ones it got, MU simply failed to knocked down, shooting 2 of 11 from 3-point range, including 0-for-3 efforts from Zaire Taylor and Kim English. We don't know if the Tigers are closer to the shooting team they were in South Padre Island or the one that made 31 of 60 3-pointers in back-to-back wins against Texas-Pan American and Chattanooga.
But more glaring was how much Missouri struggled to get open looks. Senior guard J.T. Tiller and English finally started taking the ball to the basket and trying to get fouled, but the ball never moved as crisply as the Tigers almost always seemed to last season. I have to think the biggest reason is Missouri doesn't have forwards as skilled and talented as DeMarre Carroll and Leo Lyons. They both could generate their own shots and were feared enough to force double-teams. They also had exceptional hands, which helped make them good passers and, just as important, allowed them to save a lot of less than perfect throws.
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I heard that ND is going after
Billy Donovan.
/spread rumor.
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by Other Side of the Pillow on Dec 1, 2009 8:32 AM CST reply actions
Bob Stoops
Couple o’ things-
1). This is Bob Stoops we are talking about. He’s just known as a weasel. Throw him in with RichRod, Petrino, Saban, Butch Davis, Leach, etc, and you really have a tough time saying if the dude from Scout is right or wrong until ND actually announces their hire. If this was Joe Pa or Tressel, nobody thinks twice.
2). Like I said over on our site, I think he’d be going for the money grab of a new extension and bigger cash, which didn’t he just get last year??
As far as getting blacklisted for BS stories, a quick Google search of ‘Rob Parker Detroit’ would probably get a laugh. I know it got me. Couldn’t stand his writing. He pissed all over Michy State, Lions, and some other Detroit dealings and got himself onto the poopy list.
Here's the deal with Stoops:
I hate him because he owns us, and he certainly seems like quite the jerk, but we have absolutely no proof whatsoever that he’s the type of weasel that Rodriguez, Petrino, etc., have turned out to be. He’s never once strung one school along, then left for another. He’s never left simply for a money grab. He’s never been anything but 100% loyal to OU. It’s not his fault that rumors of his leaving spring up every December just because people love to start rumors. Has he probably leveraged the rumors into a better contract? Sure, but basically so did Mike Anderson last year. It’s what happens in this business. Could he leave for Notre Dame as soon as I hit “Post” on this comment? Sure. But there’s no evidence whatsoever that he’s the sleazebag we make him out to be. Ass? Sure. Petrino-esque? Nope.
Rock M Nation
Thrust nunchuk upward!
My one hope for stoops
is that regardless of his “pedigree” of coaching, he started everything under Hyden Fry. And if he learned anything from the Fox, is not to be a raging jackass when it comes to the coaching carousel.
To me, Stoops leaving OU would be awful for him. Regardless of the money you can make going to ND, the reality is that OU is probably going to be a contender for the rest of time. ND is going to be up and down, with many, many more insane boosters. Also, were as the Dallas Morning News spends some time on OU, there’s really not a huge media juggernaut breathing down your neck if you screw up. With the Irish, you’re right in between Chicago and Indy, and they spend a lot of paper on what the Irish can and can not do.
Formerly known as Mizzou Grad
Hold on...
In the past 8yrs, Stoops has been linked to the Florida gig twice (post-Spurrier and Zook), tOSU (post-John Cooper), LSU (post-Saban), and now Notre Dame. I’m all for moving up from a non-AQ or assistant coach to a head coaching gig, but four of those jobs are/were equal to Oklahoma at the time, and I’d say that all four schools (including ND now) are a blank check. I can’t argue that Stoops made the right or wrong choice on any of those calls.
This isn’t even throwing the NFL gigs that he’s been tied to, and I believe I remember him being linked to the Miami job after Coker.
Also, he is running the same program that landed Rhett Bomar and JD Quinn gigs at the car dealer to get paid while not working.
Still, not a weasel?
Sure, CMA did the money grab. Can’t blame him, but he did it on basically an entry level deal. The point with Stoops is he seems to get linked, then get a bonus/new contract to finally kill off the rumors. Trust me, I get that it’s part of the biz to sign a new contract, but to do it every couple of years? Yeeeeeaaaaaaah.
He is an ass, and I respect him just like you, but I still believe the guy’s track record is that he is a weasel. The Bomar/Quinn deal starts it off in my book, but it ends with the irony that it seems like every job that he’s linked with gets him more money at Oklahoma.
"linked to"
What does that mean exactly? People assumed he’d be interested in the Florida gig because he coached there, and people assume he’d be interested in the Notre Dame gig because he’s from the midwest (which is insane—just because I’m from OK and MO doesn’t mean I’m interested in a gig in Kansas), but he never actually said or did anything whatsoever to encourage those rumors. The whole idea of being “linked to” or “tied to” this job or that job is complete and utter crap. Just because some newspaper or some website puts him on a school’s list just because they think it makes sense (a la Quin Snyder with the Georgia Tech job way back when) doesn’t mean he’s actually even shown 1% interest in any of those jobs.
And I’m sorry, but Stoops hasn’t used the rumors for an extension every time his name has come up — most of the time when his name has come up, it’s been 0% because of him, and he’s angrily shot everything down immediately (just like he did yesterday with the ND rumor). I could start a rumor right now that said Gary Pinkel is at the top of Notre Dame’s list, and we could forever say “Pinkel was linked to the Notre Dame gig”, and it would not have even 1% basis in reality. Again, I’m all for hating Stoops — he’s given us plenty of ammo. But there is not one shred of evidence that he has seriously considered another job the entire time he’s been in Norman, and just because this reputation has been created for him doesn’t mean he deserves it.
Rock M Nation
Thrust nunchuk upward!
I lived in Arkansas
when the Frank Solich firing went down at Nebraska. I think this quote from an espn.com story in 2006 would be a fair judge of “linked to.”
Arkansas athletic director Frank Broyles expects Razorbacks coach Houston Nutt to be hired by Nebraska.
Broyles said Friday he was waiting to hear from Nutt, who met with Nebraska athletic director Steve Pederson on Thursday night in Fayetteville.
“When they talk seriously, they usually go,” Broyles told The Associated Press.
There were even reports of a plane sitting at NWA Regional Airport waiting to take Nutt to a presser in Lincoln before miraculously changing his mind.
I’m certainly not trying to compare Bob Stoops and his relative position at OU and in the coaching Pantheon to Houston Nutt and his relative position… but I think that at the point where you start talking dollar signs and meeting with other schools’ ADs as a matter of public record, it becomes fair to call it a “link”
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by Other Side of the Pillow on Dec 1, 2009 12:08 PM CST up reply actions
So you think Scout totally made this up?
Just kind of strange to put ‘Stoops’, ‘Notre Dame’, and ‘verbally agreed to contract’ in a sentence and publishing it, even if it is by an anonymous source. I imagine the source (if there is one) is someone the writer has used more than once.
If Scout was to totally bs something up, Urban or Brian Kelly would be the sexier choices right now. When there is smoke, there is fire, even if this thing doesn’t come true. Just my opinion.
by Big Head on Dec 1, 2009 2:56 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I kinda do, yeah.
Don’t believe him if you don’t want to, but in this day and age, a lot of the time smoke is just smoke.
And Stoops is a national title winner…he’s a MUCH sexier choice than Kelly.
Rock M Nation
Thrust nunchuk upward!
Is Stoops an Irish Catholic?
Kelly is, which makes him a paler, Saturday night mass going, sexier choice to ND.
The fact that it matters to ND is beyond me. Doubt Ty had some Irish in him, and I’m not sure on his religion.
I think you might agree with this- If I had a blank check like ND has, I could probably name 10-15 guys I’d want before I got to Brian Kelly. ND apparently doesn’t think the way I do.
The following people will be on a plane to South Bend in the next month:
-Urban Meyer
-Bob Stoops
-Paul Johnson
-Nick Saban
-Nick Saban’s cat
-Dan Hawkins
-Charlie Weis
-Bill Cowher
-Mike Shanahan
-Jon Gruden
-Mike Tirico
-The ghost of George Halas
-Tom Landry’s hat
Chicago White Sox Examiner — I wish I could cuss right now.
Awesome list
I heard that Tom Landry’s hat is on the list because Bear Bryant’s hat got a raise and extension
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He was shot in the Temple.
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