Mizzou-Marquette: Statistical Onions

I loved most of the post title suggestions here (and here, and here), but a) I couldn't really decide on one in particular (though Statistical Over the Line was nicely mean and Lebowski-lovely), and b) when you outscore your opponent 9-1 in the last two minutes to advance to the Sweet Sixteen, your testicular fortitude must be acknowledged.
| Mizzou | Marquette |
|
| Points Per Minute |
2.08 | 1.98 |
| Points Per Possession (PPP) |
1.18 | 1.13 |
| Points Per Shot (PPS) |
1.30 | 1.32 |
| 2-PT FG% | 57.1% | 39.1% |
| 3-PT FG% | 31.8% | 35.7% |
| FT% | 70.0% | 84.8% |
| True Shooting % | 57.0% | 53.0% |
| Mizzou | Marquette | |
| Assists | 14 | 8 |
| Steals | 6 | 4 |
| Turnovers | 7 | 12 |
| Ball Control Index (Assists + Steals) / TO |
2.86 | 1.00 |
| Mizzou | Marquette | |
| Expected Offensive Rebounds | 13 | 14 |
| Offensive Rebounds | 10 | 16 |
| Difference | -3 | +2 |
- Lost in the second half offensive struggles was how efficient Mizzou was in this game (thanks mostly to Kim English, I guess). Marquette isn't a wonderful defensive team, but they played fantastically in the second half, and Mizzou still managed 1.18 points per possession, 7 turnovers and a true shooting % of 57.0%. People always talk about Mizzou's full-court defense, but while that defense led to some easy possessions, Mizzou's offensive efficiency continues to get overlooked.
- Ahh, BCI. How did I ever live without you? This game came down to Mizzou's BCI versus Marquette's rebounding, and that battle was pretty much a draw. I think you'll see a similar dynamic against Memphis, but we'll take a look at that later on.
- Then again, BCI led to Marquette's comeback as well.
1st Half BCI: Mizzou 8.00, Marquette 0.40
2nd Half BCI: Marquette 4.00, Mizzou 0.80 - Stats from the last 1:59:
Points: Mizzou 9, Marquette 1
Free Throws: Mizzou 7-for-7, Marquette 1-for-2
Rebounds: Mizzou 3 (including team rebounds), Marquette 0
Turnovers: Marquette 1, Mizzou 0
Onions!
Player Stats
| Player | AdjGS* | GmSc/Min | Line |
| DeMarre Carroll | 19.71 | 0.58 | 15 Pts, 8 Reb, 3 Ast |
| Matt Lawrence | 14.75 | 0.55 | 16 Pts, 3 Reb |
| Kim English | 14.09 | 1.17 | 17 Pts |
| J.T. Tiller | 13.57 | 0.42 | 10 Pts, 3 Reb, 3 Ast, 3 Stl |
| Leo Lyons | 12.01 | 0.36 | 18 Pts, 4 Reb |
| Zaire Taylor | 4.05 | 0.15 | 4 Pts, 4 Reb, 2 Ast |
| Miguel Paul | 1.31 | 0.26 | 0 Pts, 2 Ast |
| Keith Ramsey | 1.17 | 0.12 | 0 Pts, 2 Reb, 2 Ast |
| Marcus Denmon | 1.17 | 0.08 | 3 Pts, 2 Reb |
| Justin Safford | -1.04 | -0.21 | 0 Pts |
* AdjGS = a take-off of the Game Score metric (definition here) accepted by a lot of basketball stat nerds. It does the same thing my previous measure of choice did (it takes points, assists, rebounds (offensive & defensive), steals, blocks, turnovers and fouls into account to determine an individual's "score" for a given game), only the formula is more used and accepted. The "adjustment" in Adjusted Game Score is simply matching the total game scores to the total points scored in the game, thereby redistributing the game's points scored to those who had the biggest impact on the game itself, instead of just how many balls a player put through a basket.
- Kim English worked his way into Mizzou Tiger lore with this game, but the win was about so much more than Kimmeh. For one thing, he only played 12 minutes--without those 12 minutes, Mizzou wouldn't have won, but that leaves 28 minutes that he wasn't on the court. For another, he was only Mizzou's #3 player from an AdjGS perspective.
- JYD disappeared for chunks of the first half (only 4 points at half), but while guys like English, Lyons and Tiller stole the headlines, all DeMarre did in the second half was go 4-for-4 from the field, score 11 points and grab 4 rebounds. He cleans up the trash, and Mizzou wouldn't have won without him.
- Matt Lawrence may have left his shot in Columbia, but he made the biggest 3-point attempt of his life with 5:10 left, when Marquette had taken a 1-point lead and had all the momentum. Goose also took advantage of the fact that Marquette was overplaying him around the 3-point line--he drove on multiple occasions and went 5-for-5 from inside the arc...and Mizzou wouldn't have won without him.
- Leo Lyons was majorly off-kilter at the beginning of the second half, missing a series of awkward looking shots. Plus, as one of Mizzou's major big men, he was out of position on quite a few Marquette shots, allowing the Golden Eagles to grab far too many offensive rebounds (JYD was also a culprit here). But despite Marquette's defense being allowed to get very physical inside, Leo never quit, and he not only scored on a huge putback with 0:48 left, but he also went 3-for-3 from the FT line in the last minute. Mizzou wouldn't have won without him.
- Marquette fans will misguidedly remember JT Tiller for the free throws he didn't take in this game, but he made two gigantic ones with 1:50 left (making the whole "They brought in a better FT shooter!!!!" cry a bit weak...especially since Tiller also has a better FT% on the season, but whatever), and along with the typical Tiller stat line (3 reb, 3 ast, 3 stl), it's safe to say...Mizzou wouldn't have won without him.
- Zaire Taylor was only 2-for-7 from the field and managed only two assists while fighting off foul trouble, but with Mizzou shocked and exhausted in the huddle during a timeout, Mr. Coffee reminded everybody to stay loose and win the game. It was a good enough pep talk that Leo mentioned it after the game. Oh yeah, Taylor also grabbed the huge offensive rebound that led to Lyons' 3-point play with 0:48 left. You guessed it--Mizzou wouldn't have won without him.
- If I have one complaint in this game, it's that Mike Anderson did not use his bench nearly enough. Mizzou made a major move in the first half with guys like Kimmeh, Keith Ramsey and Marcus Denmon on the court, but the Mizzou bench played only 47 minutes yesterday--a pretty low total for them. It almost backfired when Mizzou's starters appeared to start to run out of gas down the stretch (DeMarre played 34 minutes, Leo 33, Tiller 32, Goose 27, Taylor 27), but power to them for sucking it up and making the plays. Against an even more physical, athletic team in Memphis, Anderson will need to use the bench better (and having Party Starter Bowers back will help...I assume Bowers will be back by then).
Mizzou vs NCAA Tournament
| Mizzou | Opp |
|
| Points Per Minute |
2.01 | 1.73 |
| Points Per Possession (PPP) |
1.22 | 1.05 |
| Points Per Shot (PPS) |
1.31 | 1.11 |
| 2-PT FG% | 51.5% | 37.3% |
| 3-PT FG% | 31.8% | 35.7% |
| FT% | 79.5% | 77.8% |
| True Shooting % | 57.4% | 48.0% |
| Mizzou | Opp |
|
| Assists | 33 | 19 |
| Steals | 10 | 5 |
| Turnovers | 11 | 21 |
| Ball Control Index (Assists + Steals) / TO |
3.91 | 1.14 |
| Mizzou | Opp |
|
| Expected Offensive Rebounds | 24 | 30 |
| Offensive Rebounds | 19 | 33 |
| Difference | -5 | +3 |
- It's funny how things have become exaggerated in the tourney--Mizzou has an even starker BCI advantage than in the regular season, and they're getting outrebounded at a higher rate as well.
- Underrated stat: opponents are shooting 37.3% from 2-point range in the tourney against Mizzou. A lot of that is probably luck (Marquette missed a lot of bunnies early in the second half), but don't underestimate how well guys like Leo Lyons obstruct shots with good straight-up defense.
| Player | AdjGS* | GmSc/Min | Line |
| DeMarre Carroll | 19.08 | 0.59 | 14.0 PPG, 7.5 RPG, 4.0 APG, 1.5 SPG, 1.0 BPG |
| Leo Lyons | 18.19 | 0.59 | 20.5 PPG, 7.0 RPG, 1.0 APG |
| Kim English | 13.60 | 1.18 | 15.0 PPG, 1.5 RPG |
| J.T. Tiller | 11.51 | 0.38 | 10.5 PPG, 4.5 RPG, 4.5 APG, 1.5 SPG |
| Matt Lawrence | 6.56 | 0.25 | 9.0 PPG, 2.0 RPG, 1.0 APG, 1.0 SPG |
| Zaire Taylor | 4.95 | 0.16 | 6.0 PPG, 2.5 RPG, 1.5 APG |
| Keith Ramsey | 2.98 | 0.25 | 2.0 PPG, 1.5 RPG, 1.0 APG |
| Steve Moore | 1.55 | 1.55 | 1 minute |
| Justin Safford | 0.54 | 0.11 | 0.0 PPG, 1.5 RPG |
| Marcus Denmon | 0.42 | 0.03 | 2.5 PPG, 2.0 RPG, 1.5 APG |
| Miguel Paul | 0.36 | 0.07 | 0.0 PPG, 1.5 APG |
| Michael Anderson Jr. | 0.36 | 0.36 | 1 minute |
| Jarrett Sutton | 0.00 | 0.00 | <1 minute |
- Ten years from now, ask a random Mizzou fan how many points Kim English averaged his freshman year, and the typical answer would probably be in the 10-12 PPG range. The way Kimmeh has played in his first two NCAA tournament games are how you create legends/myths and quickly work your way into Mizzou lore. I've seen Kimmeh compared to Jimmy McKinney a few times, in terms of how much leadership they showed as freshmen, but in his two NCAA tourney games, McKinney shot 4-for-12 with 11 points. English has done just a hair better than that.
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Truly a team effort yesterday.
To come back from 4 points like that at the end when all the momentum had swung so drastically says a lot about these guys.
I was thinking the same thing in regard to bench minutes yesterday. I wonder if Bowers will get any PT healthy or not though…his minutes have declined ever since Anderson said he had to let him off the leash (although a lot of that has to do with Safford playing so well of late).
To beat Memphis…we will have to rebound and defend the basket much, much better than we did yesterday. I just hope the media starts talking about the inevitable Memphis-UCONN Elite Eight match up all week…and that Memphis starts thinking about it as well…
Unfortunately...
…the other main theme for the week will probably be that Mike Anderson is the last coach to beat John Calipari in a conference game…which means they likely won’t underestimate us much…
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Not to be picky,
But Marquette was 28 of 33 on FT’s which is quite a bit higher than 58.3%. McNeal and Matthews seems to be knocking down every single one.
Go Tigers! Sweet Sixteen, Baby. Let’s get those…err, Tigers!
Where the hell did I get 58.3?
Weird…not sure how that happened…correction made.
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My thoughts
I tried to comment a few times last night, but my computer gave me the finger and said no. Here’s my take.
1. KIMMEH blew up yesterday for that six minutes, but didn’t play much the rest of the half. I think that was do to defense. To many times his man got into the paint, which lead to Ramsey forcing a foul. That’s the big negative to KIMMEH right now, but give him a summer working with Tiller and maybe he’ll be ok.
2. Anderson’s lack of substitution in the second half was surprising. Again, I would theorize that the lack of defense may have lead to this, but depth is the bread and butter of this team. In the world of “if’s” had Mizzou lost, I’m sure this point would have driven into the ground.
3. The officiating was rather curious. I thought that in the second half there were way to many blocking fouls away from the basket. How a defender can cause a foul by standing there is beyond me. Then, they seemed to disappear at times. I don’t believe they’ll do any further games. But, they did handle themselves well int he face of a screaming Buzz(saw). That guy should have been T’ed up.
4. However, I would say that Marquette did a great job of driving to the basket and forcing shots, and getting those FT’s.
5. Announcers sucked. just awful.
6. Great win, great team. Let’s just hope the city doesn’t wash away tomorrow.
I'm the guy that keeps Mr. Death in his pocket.
Responses...
1. Agreed. I don’t think any of us expected Goose to be a much better defensive option by this point in the season, but he most certainly is.
2. Agreed again. This team hasn’t seemed gassed in the final minutes all year, but it was certainly the case yesterday. They still made the plays in the end, and that was awesome, and you have to give some credit to Marquette for wearing them down, but still…the substitution patterns were different yesterday than they had been all year.
3. I saw people on another board theorizing that the only reason Peterson didn’t get T’d up at the end was because he was basically begging for it. He bumped a ref and dropped an MF’er on them (though he was hilariously covering his mouth during some of the really bad words), but it was like they didn’t want to give him the satisfaction of being T’d up or ejected. It was quite the Eustachy-like meltdown from the bald testicle there, and I’ve definitely lost some respect for him and Marquette fans. I mean, if we’d lost, we’d have all been raging against the refs too—it’s natural, and the refs were awful for most of the game—but seriously…that was an epic temper tantrum, especially considering there was no actual, epic screwjob call at the end.
4. Agreed, and that’s what worries me most about Memphis. The more 3-pointers they take, the better because they can drive and score quite well.
5. Yup. Again, that’s why they got sent to Boise. I don’t know who we’ll get in Glendale, but they’ll have no choice but to be a better crew.
6. Ditto.
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meant to include this link...
…in reference to the Eustachy meltdown. Dude lost his mind in that game.
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Announcing Team
Glendale’s getting Dick Enberg and Jay Bilas. His rants on changing the tourney get annoying, but as a color guy, Bilas does damn fine work.
Although, I KNOW something will be said in the course of the broadcast that will make everyone hate him and think he’s biased against Mizzou. Such is law around these parts.
I didn't think Bolerjack and Wenzel were biased against Mizzou...
they were just biased against being good announcers.
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by UribeAuction on Mar 23, 2009 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Bilas isn't biased against Mizzou...
…Bilas is just a) a solid color commentator and b) a condescending prick.
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it's the ACC in him...
he can’t help it.
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by Mizzou Grad on Mar 23, 2009 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions
You know, we used to have Bilas on our radio show ...
… and I always found him to be really cool to talk to (not just on the air, but in scheduling the interview … he was always gracious and was one of the few big-timers that would actually call you back).
Was once caught putting at night ... with the 15-year old daughter of the dean
by mitch cumstein on Mar 23, 2009 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
You're probably right...
…I have no inclination of how he is as an actual human being. I just have severe problems with how he comes across on-air sometimes. He’s got Billy Packer-itis—he’s clearly smart and knowledgeable, but it sometimes sounds like he doesn’t even remotely enjoy the sport he’s broadcasting. And the fact that he consistently falls into the “Anybody from the ACC would be Player of the Year in the Ivy League” trap (he actually said that this year) means he’s completely at odds with how I think a lot of the time.
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Mike Greenburg
Has all the Sweet Sixteen picks..what a hoser!
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I think one of the reasons Anderson left the starters in
as much as he did was the same reason that Marquette didn’t wear down like many Mizzou opponents: free throws. There were so many stoppages, especially in the middle of the second half where many teams give up a game clinching run to Mizzou, that Marquette wasn’t as tired, but maybe we weren’t as well. Maybe more fresh legs would’ve worn them down, but I think Anderson didn’t feel comfortable putting in more youngsters while Marquette was making their move.
by Transmogrified Tiger on Mar 23, 2009 11:35 AM CDT reply actions
Also, while talking about statistical breakdowns
can I make a request for the Memphis preview? Can we see their team numbers v. Power conference teams(+ Xavier) like you did for us prior to conference play?
by Transmogrified Tiger on Mar 23, 2009 11:38 AM CDT reply actions
And because I'm talking to myself at this point
Fun Fact: Memphis is -6 in turnovers in those games(8 total), committing an average of 14 a game.
by Transmogrified Tiger on Mar 23, 2009 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions
steve moore:
by far the highest gm sc/min on the team. we need to get this kid a lot more playing time if we wanna have a chance against memphis.
/end sarcasm
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