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Memphis: Know Your Sweet Sixteen Opponent

While we wait for ghtd36's Better Know an Opponent piece tomorrow (probably), let's take a look at the numbers.  And buckle your safety belts; this is a long flight.

Memphis: 33-3

Memphis Opp
Points Per Minute
1.86 1.44
Points Per Possession (PPP)
1.11 0.85
Points Per Shot (PPS)
1.28 1.05
2-PT FG% 50.3% 39.3%
3-PT FG% 32.9% 29.7%
FT% 69.5% 58.3%
True Shooting % 54.3% 45.7%
Memphis Opp
Assists/Gm 14.2 9.6
Steals/Gm 8.9 5.8
Turnovers/Gm 12.5 15.5
Ball Control Index
(Assists + Steals) / TO
1.84 0.99
Memphis Opp
Expected Offensive Rebounds/Gm 12.6 13.3
Offensive Rebounds/Gm 13.4 11.2
Difference +0.8 -2.1
  • Where Memphis is good: Everything associated with defense.  FG% defense, steals/turnovers, defensive rebounding, etc.
  • Where Memphis is not as good: For a team with Memphis' size, they only rebound reasonably well instead of amazingly well.  And they turn the ball over a lot.
  • We'll take a look at their NCAA tourney stats in a bit.

Star-divide

Player AdjGS* GmSc/Min Line
Tyreke Evans (6'6, 219, Fr.) 14.50 0.51 16.6 PPG, 5.4 RPG, 3.9 APG, 2.1 SPG, 3.6 TOPG
Robert Dozier (6'9, 220, Sr.) 13.87 0.46 12.7 PPG, 7.3 RPG, 1.4 APG, 1.3 SPG, 1.6 BPG, 2.1 TOPG
Shawn Taggart (6'10, 238, Jr.) 11.63 0.47 10.5 PPG, 7.6 RPG, 1.4 BPG
Antonio Anderson (6'6, 214, Sr.) 11.51 0.34 10.0 PPG, 4.8 RPG, 4.5 APG, 1.5 SPG, 2.2 TOPG
Doneal Mack (6'5, 181, Jr.) 6.83 0.27 8.9 PPG, 2.1 RPG, 1.2 APG
Roburt Sallie (6'5, 186, So.) 5.20 0.35 5.7 PPG, 1.6 RPG
Wesley Witherspoon (6'8, 200, Fr.) 3.43 0.25 4.1 PPG, 2.2 RPG
Willie Kemp (6'2, 184, Jr.) 2.83 0.21 3.0 PPG, 1.3 APG
Pierre Henderson-Niles (6'8, 300, Jr.) 2.56 0.20 2.4 PPG, 3.6 RPG
Chance McGrady (6'2, 183, Sr.) 0.86 0.33 0.7 PPG
Preston Laird (6'2, 180, Fr.) 0.74 0.45 0.9 PPG
Matt Simpkins (6'9, 215, Fr.) 0.67 0.12 1.4 PPG


* AdjGS = a take-off of the Game Score metric (definition here) accepted by a lot of basketball stat nerds.  It does the same thing my previous measure of choice did (it takes points, assists, rebounds (offensive & defensive), steals, blocks, turnovers and fouls into account to determine an individual's "score" for a given game), only the formula is more used and accepted.  The "adjustment" in Adjusted Game Score is simply matching the total game scores to the total points scored in the game, thereby redistributing the game's points scored to those who had the biggest impact on the game itself, instead of just how many balls a player put through a basket.

  • First of all, in Memphis' main rotation, there is one guy under 6'5.  Eesh.
  • Put simply, Tyreke Evans will turn the ball over.  He's going to play aggressively and occasionally make a stupid play.  If his A-TO ratio is under 1.0, Mizzou has a very good chance in this game.
  • And for that matter, the same goes for the entire team.  Their BCI is high because of their high number of steals (and solid assist totals), but this team is turnover prone, and Mizzou will have to take advantage of that.
  • Memphis is tall but not necessarily huge.  Neither Taggart nor Dozier are extreme bangers inside, which will help Mizzou at least a bit.  However, while Dozier is a solid offensive rebounder (his OR% is the same as Leo Lyons'), Taggart is absolutely outstanding in the category.  Keeping him off the boards and holding Memphis to one-and-done possessions will be crucial.
  • Memphis is pretty streaky, but they're simply not a very good 3-point shooting team.  If Roburt Sallie really has seen the lightbulb go on in the last couple of games, and if it's going to stay that way for the rest of the tournament, then they've got a serious long-distance threat.  But if he comes down from his super-human shooting in KC, it will be hard for Memphis to go on one of those 3-point tears that usually doom Missouri.  In most circumstances, the more outside shots Memphis takes, the better for the opponent.
  • Pierre Henderson-Niles' dimensions remind one quite a bit of Texas' Dexter Pittman, but he is not nearly as offensively skilled.  Calipari still might choose to play him a hair more than his typical 12.6 minutes per game if his size is causing a smaller Missouri team problems, but we'll see.

What does Pomeroy have to say?

Mizzou is #7 in KenPom's rankings, and while that's great, Memphis is far and away #1, mostly because of defense. 

  • They have the #25 most efficient offense in the country and #1 most efficient defense.
  • The average Memphis game is about four possessions slower than the average Mizzou game.  So much for the "both teams are fast-paced" meme.  Memphis only looks fast--they don't play fast.
  • Teams shoot horribly from inside the 3-point line against Memphis (a thought that gives nightmares to scarred Mizzou fans thinking about how many layups their boys have missed this year), and overall Memphis allows the single worst Effective FG% in the country.
  • They block a lot of shots (#8 in the country) and pick a lot of pockets (#11 in steals--Mizzou is #3).
  • Their offense is not very 3-point based (though they do take a lot of them), and they don't necessarily rely on passing and assists for their offense.  Lots of driving and close to mid-range shots.
  • Their bench does not provide a ton of support, and while they're not very experienced, what they are is tall.  Very tall.  They are #24 in Effective Height (which basically just looks at the average height of the tallest guys) and #2 in Overall Height (which measures everybody's average).

This is a long, lean team that relies on its talent and athleticism to win games.  Of their three losses, two (Xavier, Georgetown) came against teams who maybe weren't as athletic as them, but were more physical, and the other came against a unique, athletic Syracuse team.  I'd say Mizzou is more like Syracuse than XU/Georgetown, but really none of them are tremendously comparable.

Memphis vs Real Opponents (i.e. major conference teams or NCAA tourney teams)

 

Memphis Opp
Points Per Minute
1.76 1.59
Points Per Possession (PPP)
1.03 0.93
Points Per Shot (PPS)
1.17 1.17
2-PT FG% 47.3% 43.6%
3-PT FG% 29.8% 29.5%
FT% 65.8% 67.7%
True Shooting % 50.4% 49.5%
Memphis Opp
Assists/Gm 15.0 9.8
Steals/Gm 8.8 6.0
Turnovers/Gm 14.6 14.4
Ball Control Index
(Assists + Steals) / TO
1.63 1.10
Memphis Opp
Expected Offensive Rebounds/Gm 13.9 13.0
Offensive Rebounds/Gm 15.3 10.6
Difference +1.4 -2.4
  • Memphis' "real" regular season opponents: Chattanooga, Seton Hall, Xavier, Georgetown, Syracuse, Cincinnati, Tennessee, Gonzaga, and of course CS-Northridge and Maryland.  Memphis went 7-3 against these ten teams.
  • Disclaimer: a lot of these games were played earlier in the season, when Tyreke Evans was still learning the ropes.  He's a better player now, but that doesn't render these numbers entirely void.
  • Suddenly Points Per Shot and True Shooting % are almost equal, and Memphis relies on BCI (a bit) and rebounding (a lot) to win games.
  • 14.6 turnovers per game.  That's a lot.
Player AdjGS* GmSc/Min Line
Robert Dozier 13.15 0.42 11.2 PPG, 8.5 RPG, 1.6 APG, 1.0 SPG, 1.2 BPG, 1.7 TOPG
Tyreke Evans 12.44 0.44 14.7 PPG, 6.1 RPG, 3.9 APG, 2.0 SPG, 4.0 TOPG
Shawn Taggart 12.10 0.44 10.0 PPG, 8.4 RPG, 1.0 SPG, 1.3 BPG, 1.1 TOPG
Antonio Anderson 9.22 0.25 7.9 PPG, 4.5 RPG, 5.3 APG, 1.5 SPG, 3.0 TOPG
Doneal Mack 7.42 0.31 9.5 PPG, 2.2 RPG, 1.4 APG
Roburt Sallie 7.27 0.50 8.0 PPG, 1.6 RPG
Wesley Weatherspoon 3.04 0.19 4.2 PPG, 3.0 RPG, 1.0 APG, 1.6 TOPG
Pierre Henderson-Niles 2.92 0.25 2.7 PPG, 4.1 RPG, 1.0 TOPG
Willie Kemp 2.17 0.18 3.4 PPG
Matt Simpkins 0.39 0.08 0.5 PPG
Preston Laird 0.20 0.39 1 minute
Chance McGrady -0.52 -0.52 2 minutes
  • Again, Evans is a better player now than he was against early teams like Chattanooga and Xavier, but the numbers aren't that different.  He's still the same well-rounded, athletic, talented player who turns the ball over a bit too much.
  • Antonio Anderson could be the key player to watch.  He's had decent shooting games and horrible ones.  Decent assist-to-turnover games and horrible ones.  He handles the ball as much as anybody on the team, and he could make or break Memphis.

    And no, he's not this guy:

    That's Anthony Anderson.
  • Evans is the main name for Memphis now, but really the trifecta of Evans, Dozier and Taggart are equally important from a per-minute standpoint.  Slowing down any one of them could do good things for Mizzou.

Memphis vs NCAA Tournament

Memphis Opp
Points Per Minute
2.13 1.75
Points Per Possession (PPP)
1.24 1.02
Points Per Shot (PPS)
1.52 1.21
2-PT FG% 58.9% 45.1%
3-PT FG% 44.7% 37.5%
FT% 67.4% 66.7%
True Shooting % 64.9% 52.6%
Memphis Opp
Assists 40 19
Steals 20 16
Turnovers 27 24
Ball Control Index
(Assists + Steals) / TO
2.22 1.46
Memphis Opp
Expected Offensive Rebounds 20 25
Offensive Rebounds 19 21
Difference -1 -4
  • Considering neither CS-Northridge nor Maryland are gigantic teams, the rebounding numbers there are a little surprising (and encouraging).  They've been strong on the defensive glass, but they haven't been getting just a ton of second-chance opportunities.
  • Thanks to Mr. Sallie, the 3-pointers have fallen for Memphis thus far.  Sallie was 13-for-19 from 3-point range over the weekend--the rest of the team was just 8-for-28.  Again, we'll see if this is a permanent upward trend for the sophomore (and former Husker), or just a couple of hot games, soon to return to the norm.
  • Again, the BCI is high because of an impressive 40 assists and 20 steals--the turnovers number is still too high for a team about to play Missouri.
  • Meanwhile, they've strangely only forced 24 turnovers of their own.  Again, Northridge did a lot more against Memphis than anybody thought they were capable of doing, and it showed that there might be room for JT Tiller and Zaire Taylor to drive, and it might be possible to get Evans, Doneal Mack, and Wesley Weatherspoon into foul trouble.
Player AdjGS* GmSc/Min Line
Roburt Sallie 24.66 0.84 24.0 PPG, 3.5 RPG, 1.5 APG, 1.5 SPG
Tyreke Evans 14.53 0.50 17.0 PPG, 3.5 RPG, 5.0 APG, 2.5 SPG, 1.0 BPG, 4.5 TOPG
Robert Dozier 13.35 0.39 11.5 PPG, 8.0 RPG, 1.0 APG, 1.5 SPG
Shawn Taggart 13.12 0.49 11.0 PPG, 8.5 RPG, 1.0 SPG
Antonio Anderson 10.75 0.29 7.5 PPG, 2.5 RPG, 10.0 APG, 2.0 SPG, 4.0 TOPG
Willie Kemp 4.24 0.61 3.5 PPG, 1.0 APG
Pierre Henderson-Niles 2.71 0.32 1.0 PPG, 3.0 RPG, 1.0 BPG
Doneal Mack 1.98 0.11 9.0 PPG, 1.0 RPG, 2.0 TOPG
Preston Laird 0.34 0.34 1 minute
Chance McGrady 0.00 0.00 1 minute
Wesley Witherspoon -0.28 -0.03 0.5 PPG, 2.5 RPG
  • Dozier and Anderson have been relatively unimpressive in the tourney thus far, while Evans and Taggart have posted averages quite comparable to their regular season numbers.
  • The difference, of course, has been Sallie's explosion.  Everything Kimmie English has been for Mizzou, Sallie has meant even more for Memphis (English has actually had much higher per-minute averages, but Sallie has played many more minutes).  They needed almost every one of his 35 points to beat Northridge.

Keys to the Game

No surprises here.

  1. The 3-pointer.  Will Roburt Sallie go off again?  What about Kim English?  Tyreke Evans or Antonio Anderson?  Will Matt Lawrence bring his long-range shot with him to Glendale after leaving it at home during the trip to Boise?  Neither team is great at the long-ball, and both teams are good at preventing opponents' long-ball success.  Regardless, we know that both teams will still take a lot of 3's, and the team with the 3-pt % closest to 50% will have a significant advantage here.

  2. The offensive rebound.  When you look at Memphis' losses and near-losses, two numbers stick out in regard to trying to figure out why Memphis lost/almost lost.  The first one is rebounding.  Xavier outrebounded them, 44-40.  In a 1-point Memphis win, Tulsa outrebounded the Tigers, 43-25.  Neither Memphis nor Missouri is full of great natural shooting ability, and there will likely be a lot of missed shots in this game (and therefore lots of rebounding opportunities).  Mizzou has to do a better job of grabbing the boards than they have in either of the first two NCAA Tourney games.  Leo Lyons had 4 rebounds against Marquette--inexcuseable.  He needs at least 7-8 on Thursday.

  3. The turnover.  The other trend from Memphis' worse games is turnovers.  Memphis had 20 turnovers against both Syracuse and Georgetown.  They can get confused by sturdy defenses, and I expect Mike Anderson to vary the defensive looks he throws at Memphis from possession to possession.

    Meanwhile, Memphis is also very good at forcing turnovers.  Mizzou has taken care of the ball tremendously well in the tourney, and they must continue to do so.  They need to force at least 18-20 Memphis turnovers while keeping their own numbers under about 12-14.  Winning the turnover battle means getting to take more shots, and Mizzou's going to need every opportunity it can get.

Prediction

When it's time to make a prediction, I usually do a little math.  I try to figure out Mizzou's and its opponent's likely points per possession, and then try to figure out the most likely pace.  Points Per Possession x Possessions = Points, right?

Looking at how both teams have performed over the year as a whole and most recently, this should be a damn close game.  Mizzou will most likely average somewhere in the neighborhood of 1.04-1.08 points per possession (we'll say 1.06), while Memphis will be anywhere between 1.05 and 1.10 (we'll say 1.08).  Both teams are streaky, and either could end up in the 1.15 or 0.95 neighborhood, but those are the safest bets.  Memphis games are usually played at about a 66-possession pace, while Missouri is closer to 70-72.  We'll say there are 69 possessions in this game...which makes for a prediction of Memphis 75, Missouri 73.  I'll say this, though: the way this team has played in clutch situations (think Texas, Kansas, Marquette), in a one- or two-possession game, I really like our chances.  We'll stick with a reverse jinx attempt, though, and say 75-73 Memphis.

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So...

…I’m not going to be able to watch most of the game, as I have an 8:45 softball game.

But if Mizzou beats Memphis, I’ll be in Glendale on Saturday.

/gulp

My 2009 New Years Resolution: Quit feeding the trolls.

by ghtd36 on Mar 23, 2009 2:11 PM CDT reply actions  

You are going to miss the game to play beer league?

… please tell me this is a women’s softball game you’re covering for the paper. Otherwise, you’ve lost pretty much all your cool points.

Was once caught putting at night ... with the 15-year old daughter of the dean

by mitch cumstein on Mar 23, 2009 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Dude, it's my company's team.

And I’m the coach.

And my boss plays second base.

My 2009 New Years Resolution: Quit feeding the trolls.

by ghtd36 on Mar 23, 2009 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hey, man...

…I didn’t schedule the games. The league commissioner did.

My 2009 New Years Resolution: Quit feeding the trolls.

by ghtd36 on Mar 23, 2009 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Rainout?

I can get you a rainout.

The sleeper has awoken. . .awakened. . .he woke up.

by SleepyFloyd7 on Mar 23, 2009 8:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Can you assign a point value ...

… to the fact that Memphis owes us something bigtime for choking away last year’s National Championship game to our arch-rival? That has to account for something in our Instant Karma’s Gonna Getcha 2009 tour, right?

Was once caught putting at night ... with the 15-year old daughter of the dean

by mitch cumstein on Mar 23, 2009 2:14 PM CDT reply actions  

Keep it close...

if this is a ballgame with 2 minutes to go, Mizzou has a great chance of winning. We’ve been there and succeeded…Memphis, not so much.

The problem is, it won’t be easy keeping it within striking distance. We will have to hope that Memphis does turn it over and that it leads to some easy points for Mizzou…points that would be harder to come by in a half court set.

Your keys to the game…and further analysis in the prediction were spot on…unfortunately, your final score is reversed. (I hope…)

And call me crazy…but I feel like JT is DUE to hit a big three when we really need it…lord knows he takes enough of them, he has to get one to go at some point.

by bleigh82 on Mar 23, 2009 3:07 PM CDT reply actions  

Stats don't tell the whole story

While I commend your effort to break down the stats available, know that they don’t tell everything.

First off, I do agree that Memphis is not as fast this year as many people assume. As a team they were very fast last year, and that is the memory that sticks out in most peoples’ minds, hence the misconception.

Additionally, I reject the notion that only “major conference teams” are “real” competition. Fully four teams in C-USA have higher RPIs than Maryland and Georgetown, for instance. If Chattanooga and Seton Hall are considered “real” opponents while UAB and Tulsa are not, then there is a serious flaw in the rubric.

With that out of the way—

As for the turnovers, most of Tyreke’s turnovers come in the form of offensive fouls. Earlier on in the season, he could be counted on for two charges a game. Still picks one up from time to time. These are serious, but they are not the types of turnovers that result in transition points.

Furthermore, you can’t assume that Memphis hasn’t gotten second-chance opportunities in the tournament because its number of offensive rebounds isn’t astronomical. Frankly, there simply aren’t many opportunities for second chances when you are shooting nearly 60% from the field. Memphis has been an excellent offensive rebounding team this season.

I also disagree with your assessment that Memphis “takes a lot of” 3-point shots. According to Pomeroy, Memphis ranks 210 in the nation out of over 300 teams in 3PA/FGA.

Your assessment of Antonio Anderson is also a bit off-base. He is the most consistent and steady member of this year’s Memphis team. He has led the team in minutes since his freshman year for a reason. He had a slump to start the season, so that may be skewing the numbers. He doesn’t take a ton of shots— his role is as a facilitator and a lock-down defender. Missouri’s best perimeter player will surely become acquainted with him soon enough.

Finally, I believe the methodology of examining and breaking down Memphis’s losses to look for clues to be misleading and not particularly advantageous for you. Memphis has not lost since December 22, 2008. At that point in time, Wesley Witherspoon was the starting point guard, starter Doneal Mack was the 6th man off the bench, 2 guys named Jeff Robinson and Matt Simpkins were still on the team, and Tyreke Evans was playing out of position. Antonio Anderson was in the hugest slump of his career and the team was searching for an identity.

If you are looking for clues about current trends and performance in THOSE games, you would be just as well off looking for clues from last year’s team, in my opinion.

by NJ1 on Mar 25, 2009 12:39 AM CDT reply actions  

Thanks for the post...responses below...
  • I did acknowledge that a lot of Memphis’ major conference games took place a while ago, and I noted that Tyreke Evans, among others, has only improved since then, but you still have to look at those games because they still say as much or more than a large chunk of games against the SMU’s and Tulane’s of the world. The Big 12 has its own weak teams—Mizzou got 6 games against Iowa State, Colorado and Texas Tech—but you still can’t glean a lot from Memphis’ 8 games against SMU, USM, Rice, Tulane or East Carolina, for example.
  • One of the purposes of the “BCI” figure is to give extra credence to steals in terms of assist/turnover numbers. Evans may commit a lot of offensive fouls, but that’s shown in the team’s BCI figure. It’s not as costly, but anything that prevents Memphis from taking a shot is a win for Missouri, and being that Mizzou’s pretty good at speeding up players’ brains and getting them moving too fast, hopefully we’re able to draw a few charges.
  • Regarding Memphis’ taking a lot of 3’s…for Memphis and Mizzou, I tend to think they shoot a lot of 3’s simply because they don’t make a high % of them, and yet they still take quite a few.
  • The “real” competition thing was just a way to draw a line between some teams and others. I used the word “real” because earlier in the season on RMN I broke Mizzou’s stats into the same “Real” category to differentiate between the Cal’s and USC’s of the world and the Prairie View’s. Clearly UAB and Tulsa are better than Chattanooga and Northridge (and Seton Hall and Cincy, for that matter—I’m a big “Go Mid Majors!” guy, so you don’t have to convince me they’re good teams), but it was a way to break the games into a more manageable sample size.
  • Regarding offensive rebounds in the tournament: I wasn’t putting much stock in it (not nearly as much as the overall numbers and “real competition” numbers), but it was there and I noticed it.
  • Regarding Anderson: He may not be a key shooter, but that doesn’t change the fact that I saw quite a few 2-for-7 type games on his list. Was in no way making judgment on his defense.

Rock M Nation
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by Bill C. on Mar 25, 2009 6:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

Thank you for your response--response to your response!

You said:

“but you still have to look at those games because they still say as much or more than a large chunk of games against the SMU’s and Tulane’s of the world”

I agree that games against SMU and Tulane are not terribly relevant. However, that is not Memphis’s entire schedule. If you remove SMU, Rice, and Tulane from the calculation, C-USA has a higher RPI than the SEC (which is admittedly in a down year). After December 22, in the regular season Memphis has played:

Cincinnati
Tulsa THREE times
UAB twice
@ Tennessee
@ Gonzaga
Houston THREE times
@ UTEP

Not the Big East, but decent competition. Additionally, road games at 100-ish RPI teams like UCF and Southern Mississippi.

In my opinion, any time you play a top-50/60ish RPI team three times, that is stiff competition. Beating a good team twice is hard. Beating anyone three times in the same season is incredibly difficult.

I think it would’ve been a much better and informative choice to use instead only games against the top 100 RPI. I believe this to be more meaningful than conference affiliation, and just as easy to select the sample. But hey, it’s your article! :)

I agree that turnovers will be key— Memphis doesn’t turn the ball over and they win, most likely. However, it IS worth discussing that there is a difference between the type of turnovers that lead to easy transition baskets and those that don’t, since Missouri, like Memphis, keys heavily off of creating turnovers and transition points. Tyreke almost never turns the ball over as a result of pressure defense. Almost all of his turnovers are the freshman-style self-created kind. Offensive fouls, lazy passes, driving into traffic and coughing the ball up. You are correct that any one of those happening is a boon for Missouri, but it is not the same as his being bothered by the press. Which he may well be— Memphis has faced some pressure this year, but Missouri’s pressure is probably stronger than any Memphis has faced.

To add another wrinkle to the 3-point shooting thing: Memphis’s best perimeter shooter, Roburt Sallie, is just beginning to see significant action. He has been probably the weakest defender of anyone in the regular rotation, and Calipari places a premium on defense. This combined with taking plays off has limited his minutes. However, recently he has begun improving on defense (still not an elite level defender) and competing more consistently, so he has become less of a liability (defensively, he is still vulnerable to the dribble drive). This has allowed him, in the past 5 or 6 games, to see an expanded role and expanded minutes. He is the best perimeter shooter on the team, at a healthy 46% from beyond the arc. If he continues to defend and hustle as well as shoot like he has been, that will change the perimeter-shooting scenario quite a bit.

by NJ1 on Mar 25, 2009 10:08 AM CDT reply actions  

response to the response to the response
  • Keep this in mind: I was trying to whittle down the sample size in a relevant way, so I chose those games. I should have probably included the Tulsa games too, simply because they were so interesting (Tulsa just KILLED Memphis on the boards in that one game, and that makes no sense looking at the rest of UM’s games).
  • Clearly we need as many transition points as we can get, but our halfcourt offense, while occasionally cold, was still good enough that we’re not afraid of playing a game in the halfcourt. We beat Texas in Austin almost entirely out of halfcourt sets, which was, I think, a major confidence boost for Mizzou fans. Turnovers of any kind are still what Missouri lives off of, whether they lead to transition points or not. The more stops they get on defense, the more confident they are on offense.

Rock M Nation
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by Bill C. on Mar 25, 2009 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

Addendum to the responses to the resp.... Oh, whatever.

I think your aversion to the “real” teams distinction is not so much in how he did it, but that, as a Memphis fan, you’ve probably had to defend Memphis’ schedule forever and ever without fail for the last three years. I assume it’s pretty easy to get defensive after something like that. I don’t think it was meant to be a shot at Memphis, but I think he just needed some kind of strata he could lean on to make the distinction. Just in the way it’s hard to tell a lot about Mizzou in a win over Prairie View A&M, it’s hard to tell a lot about Memphis in a win over Rice.

More than anything, the post wasn’t supposed to be a referendum on scheduling. If I can speak for The Boy, it was supposed to give more of an understanding of how Memphis has performed all-season vs. how the team has performed against some of its stiffer competition and see what can be derived as either good news or bad news for Mizzou.

Thanks for stopping by NJ1 (and all our silent readers from MemphisTigers.org) and giving us an insider look at Memphis. We always love having other fans stop by RMN and become part of the discussion.

by RPT on Mar 25, 2009 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

and the word choice of "real" probably didn't help...

…but again, that was just verbiage that we used earlier in the season to differentiate teams on our own schedule, so I used it simply for continuity…

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by Bill C. on Mar 25, 2009 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

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With Apologies To Randy Edsall, The Big East Remains Mostly Harmless

FILE -- This is an Oct. 18, 2008 file photo showing Connecticut corner back Jasper Howard (6) trying to get the crowd into the game during the fourth quarter of an NCAA college football game against Rutgers, in Piscataway, N.J.   Jasper Howard had his little sisters' names tatooed on his chest. His friends say it was a constant reminder of why he was at U Conn _ to provide his family with a better life than the one he had in Miami's Little Haiti. (AP Photo/Mel Evans, File) link

In Defense Of Big East Football

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