Memphis talking to Mike Anderson?
by mpfische on Mar 30, 2009 4:01 PM CDT
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According to a St. Louis-area sports station, the University of Kentucky has hired Calipari to a seven-year contract worth over $30 million. The University of Memphis has, in turn, told Mike Anderson not to sign anything before the two parties have a chance to talk. I love Mike Anderson and I think that Missouri will routinely be in the Sweet 16 with him at the helm, but I am virtually certain he would leave Missouri for Memphis. Especially since Memphis is likely to surpass the $1.5 million cap that Missouri has allegedly placed on Anderson's new contract.
UPDATE 1: Subject of post changed to more accurately reflect the post's subject matter.
UPDATE 2: Since there was another post about the same thing, the link from that post has been moved into this one to try to streamline where the chatter is.
Live Feed of Memphis News Discussing Potential Coaching Changes
UPDATE 3: PowerMizzou is reporting that as of 3:30pm, Memphis had not yet contacted Missouri for permission to talk to Anderson. Who knows what may happen in the next few days, but we probably shouldn't jump the gun with speculation based off of inaccurate information.
UPDATE 4: Really...just to appeal to the ridiculous nature of this whirlwind, evidently new-kid-on-the-St. Louis sports radio-block 101.1 ESPN is reporting Anderson's agent is currently meeting with Georgia's AD.
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Let's not freak here...
Calipari hasn’t officially taken the Kentucky job, and this radio report doesn’t even indicate that Anderson has interest in Memphis. Chiiiiiiiiiiill.
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by UribeAuction on Mar 30, 2009 2:38 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Don't see Anderson going back 'Down'
to C-USA. He just got out of there. If Alden is smart he’d start making phone calls, uh, last week to Mizzou alum.
I was just starting to get excited about this rivalry again and I’d hate to see Anderson leave.
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by labbadabba on Mar 30, 2009 2:38 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Interesting...
I am virtually certain he would leave Missouri for Memphis.
What makes you “virtually certain” he leaves?
by RPT on Mar 30, 2009 2:39 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Haven't you heard?
MP is tight with the hierarchy in Columiba…
by KCsince88 on Mar 30, 2009 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Really???
I don’t see how Anderson wouldn’t feel his odds of being successful are greater at MU than Memphis. He took a step up from UAB and Conference USA in coming to Mizzou and the Big 12 so why would he take a step back…just my opinion but Calipari is one of the few guys that can make a consistent national player out of a Conf USA team(basically a mid major conference) like that. Anderson will be far more successful staying at Mizzou.
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by Denverjhawk on Mar 30, 2009 2:40 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Clearly them getting permission to talk...
…is about 12 steps from him actually accepting the job, but I’ll say this: if Kentucky’s offer really is the rumored 6 years, $40 million, then the ante just got upped in a major, major way. Memphis will VERY MUCH overpay for Cal’s replacement, and I could see them offering MA a ridiculously large sum of money.
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by Bill C. on Mar 30, 2009 3:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Btw, I've heard both 6 years, $40 million and 7 years, $30 million...
…either could be correct, but clearly the second one is a bit more sane.
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by Bill C. on Mar 30, 2009 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
wouldn't want to be the AD at Kentucky if I wiffed on that one....
doubt it happens with Coach Cal though. I’m sure he’ll be successful at Kentucky.
Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.
by Denverjhawk on Mar 30, 2009 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's some stupid money.
Anyone know what the top five or ten division one basketball coaches make now?
Two years ago the top ten ranged from $2.1m to $1.4m.
I can’t believe that schools are throwing around that kind of money in this economy.
No way it’s gone up that much. These numbers cannot be accurate.
by B_W on Mar 30, 2009 8:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ESPN is saying 8 yr-$35 mil
i was just having this discussion with a guy in the office. That doubles what has previously been considered an elite-level salary.
by calim on Mar 30, 2009 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well the media is getting closer but they're still too high
considering the current state of things.
by B_W on Mar 30, 2009 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And FYI:
I changed the post title to more accurately reflect the purpose of the post.
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by Bill C. on Mar 30, 2009 3:24 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Appreciated.
Much less “24-hour cable news”ish.
by RPT on Mar 30, 2009 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hopefully Mike knows his history
following Calipari at a school in a crummy conference isn’t all that it’s cracked up to be.
by Transmogrified Tiger on Mar 30, 2009 3:32 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
really, though...
…if they offer, say $1 million more per year than we can offer, it would be really hard to turn that down. Alden might have to do a second go-round with the big boosters…that, or as I joked in another fanpost, put off paying for the new jumbotron for another year…
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by Bill C. on Mar 30, 2009 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I gotta agree with that
it’s hard to turn down an extra $1 million a year, especially if the difference is $1.5M at MU and $2.5M at Memphis
by jschooltiger on Mar 30, 2009 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
at memphis anderson inherits a program from calipari
and will have to fight to keep it relevant as the only decent school in its entire conference.
everything mizzou currently has in a basketball program has been built by anderson. it’s his own legacy. hopefully that’s worth enough to him that memphis won’t be able to outbid us.
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by soccerfreak on Mar 30, 2009 3:41 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
You have to believe Calipari takes his recruits with him
and Evans would likely head pro as well
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by The Beef on Mar 30, 2009 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
As always..Gabe D. with his ear to the ground....
reporting that as of about 20 minutes ago, no one from Memphis has asked anyone from Mizzou for permission to do anything…
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by The Beef on Mar 30, 2009 3:52 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Doesn't mean much...
“Official” contact is often the last step in these things. All the real work is done via third party channels. The official contact comes mostly after the basic framework of a deal is in place.
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by dcrockett17 on Mar 30, 2009 7:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
WHY AM I CERTAIN HE WOULD LEAVE MISSOURI FOR MEMPHIS?
(1) If you’re a black family, Memphis is head-and-shoulders above living in the middle of Missouri.
(2) All of Mike Anderson’s kin have now moved on from Missouri.
(3) While Mike doesn’t stike me as a particularly greedy individual, Missouri might offer him a max of $1.5 million and Memphis might be in the $2 to 2.5 million park and thats about a 33% to 60% difference.
(4) Mike Anderson could get McDonald’s all-americans at Memphis and play his style of basketball and that equals a national championship.
That said, I’ve loved Missouri since before the original Band-Aid man and as far as I’m concerned Missouri is — with a few exceptions – - as good a job as any in America. I’d stay at Missouri as oppossed to leaving for Memphis. But I’m not a college basketball coach, black in almost completely white environment, or being offered a boat load of money.
FYI…if you can give Quin $1.4 in the early 2000s, you can give Mike Anderson $2,000,000.
by mpfische on Mar 30, 2009 4:02 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
A couple of rebuttals:
From Memphis’ Rivals.com affiliate (the paid writer, NOT the commenters:
"Memphis fans on the Commercial Appeal message board are clamoring already for Mike Anderson, the former UAB head coach who took Missouri to the Elite Eight this season.
That is highly unlikely, however. With seven scholarship players and a sour taste after Calipari leaving, the situation at Memphis would be a lateral move, at best, for Anderson. As he would be leaving the Big 12 for C-USA, it is realistically a step backwards for the highly regarded Anderson."
Why does Anderson’s family being gone mean he is no longer tied to Missouri? I don’t want to get into a racial debate of why Memphis is better than Columbia in your opinion, but were Mikey and DeMarre the only things keeping him in Columbia? Does the fact that they are gone mean he’s decided to become a nomad now?
As far as MacDonald’s All-Americans are concerned, what makes you think that he cares? He’s almost gone out of his way to recruit overlooked guys. Hell, he went to Marietta, Ga. to scout some top talent and came away most impressed with a scrappy kid named J.T. Tiller because of his heart and his hustle. Anderson’s system is almost better off without ridiculous talent.
While you present valid reasoning here, I had to challenge you because there’s a MAJOR difference between “virtually certain” and “I can understand the logic of why he would leave.”
Number 3 is your most valid point. Every man has a price. What’s CMA’s?
by RPT on Mar 30, 2009 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he went to marietta to look at tiller
while at UAB, a school where you really have to try and find the overlooked guys. I would think he’d have a better pick of recruits while at Memphis
by RoyalsFanInBillings on Mar 30, 2009 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He was amongst scouts and coaches looking at higher end talent
But Tiller aside, you have to think about his system to think about what kind of talent is needed to run it.
Yes, every program could use top end talent and national championship teams always have it, but it comes with a price with what Anderson tries to do. ALL of his success is dependent on a team mentality in which stars are A) asked to play A LOT of defense, B) almost NEVER get the ball in isolation on offense, C) ALWAYS make the extra pass and D) minimize minutes and trust your bench. All four of those things don’t lend themselves to superstar talent.
by RPT on Mar 30, 2009 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ignoring (1) entirely...for very obvious reasons...
(2) This is true. However, the large class of current freshmen would be pretty hard to leave.
(3) Keep in mind one particular thing: performance bonuses. With all that he accomplished this year, Anderson will end up making in the $1.2-1.5 million range, not simply the $800K base. Therefore if Mizzou is to give him a raise to a base of $1.3-1.5 million, that likely means that with high performance, he’d end up in the $1.8-2.2 million range, which is extremely close to the Memphis figure. No, we do not know what performance clauses would be in a Memphis contract, but we are not talking about a 60% difference here.
(4) True. One other true statement: Mike Anderson could get McDonald’s all-americans at Memphis Missouri and play his style of basketball and that equals a national championship. In other words, (4) is completely, entirely, 100% irrelevant.
This comes down to nothing but $$$. If Memphis can offer a little more than Missouri, I think all other factors—young returning core, an almost empty cupboard left by Cal in Memphis, the fact that Missouri is in a conference that proved itself to be the second-best in the country this postseason, and Memphis is in the Conference USA, a conference which Anderson has already left once—favor Missouri and he stays. If they can offer waaaaay more money than Missouri, he might leave.
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by Bill C. on Mar 30, 2009 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ignoring Point One...
It strikes be as strange that we’re refusing to address the racial differences between Memphis and Columbia. Quality of life is an important factor in anybody’s decision about where they’re going to live and work, and from that perspective the racial make-up and cultural offerings of Memphis are certainly relevant. Its not politically incorrect to discuss why the racial demographics of different cities may affect Mike Anderson’s decision. Why are we pretending it irrelevant matter?
by mpfische on Mar 30, 2009 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If that were really a significant concern . . .
Mike Anderson never would have left Birmingham for Columbia.
by Michael Atchison on Mar 30, 2009 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Apples and Oranges....
Come on…at UAB Anderson wasn’t in a position to turn down a big-time program for quality of life issues…but now he is…he can say no to Columbia because he can work in a major metropolitan area.
by mpfische on Mar 30, 2009 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
A major metropolitan area, sure
and one with one of the highest murder rates in the country
http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200807/memphis-crime
Look, race is a dumb argument.
by jschooltiger on Mar 30, 2009 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Look, race is a dumb argument.
That’s not true. Besides, he’s making an argument about culture—not race per se. Now I wouldn’t frame it as such a fait accompli, but it’s worth discussing.
There’s a lot we can’t know about the Andersons’ personal tastes. The Andersons may or may not be “city” people, willing to put up with the things that come with city life, like higher rates of violent crime. Memphis delivers more in terms of African American culture than Columbia, MO but it’s no prized pig as a place to live. Also, many people who make the choice to work in university environments have already signaled that they’re comfortable in small cities and university towns. Mike Anderson isn’t 30 years old anymore. It’s quite possible that the Andersons might appreciate being a reasonable drive away from St. Louis or Kansas City, but able to return to a quieter and more bucolic Columbia.
Mpfische makes a decent case, even if I think he overstates it a bit.
Memphis will be tempting, and a big truckload of dough may do it for Anderson. However, I think when comparing the jobs he might say that all he can do at Memphis is pale by comparison to his predecessor—who hasn’t lost a league game in forever. You just don’t want to be the guy who follows Cal.
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by dcrockett17 on Mar 30, 2009 7:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think the reason these two correctly avoided it the first time
was because it was the FIRST point of your argument, and you did so with some pretty over-the-top statements. I too believe this will be a basketball decision and not a race decision…and Atch makes a fantastic point above as well. But consistent hammering of the race card here is not the right play in my opinion.
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by The Beef on Mar 30, 2009 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Come one man...
“Hammering the race card.” Really? Give me a break. As someone who has lived as a monority outside of our country, let me tell you that there is a level of community/comfort that comes from regularly seeing peopel with backgrounds similar/familiar to you.
The responses on here — yours in particular — suggest that we instead pretend that Mike Anderson’s race is irrelevant to his life or lifestyle. Moreover, that my raising the issue of face was shockingly inappropriate. As I said, give me a break. You’re living in a dream world if you think demographics are irrelevant to one’s decision on where to live. Last, I never said it was the ONLY factor.
by mpfische on Mar 30, 2009 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I gotta agree with Mpfische ...
… it’s something we should at least consider. And we shouldn’t disregard it as though it’s too outlandish to even bring up.
I don’t know Mike Anderson from Adam. So I don’t know if it’s a factor in his decision (if he, indeed, has a decision to make. But I also don’t know if it’s not a factor in his decision.
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by mitch cumstein on Mar 30, 2009 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, ignoring the race card is not the right play here, either
though like mitch said, it might not be a factor just as easily as it might.
by calim on Mar 30, 2009 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
one question, though:
Right now, 90% of Mike Anderson’s outside life is based around athletic officials, assistant coaches, and players. I’d be willing to bet that the racial breakdown of those groups of people is exactly the same as it would be if he took the Memphis job. If race is a consideration, it would be a minor one, as we’d only be talking about that leftover 10% of the time…like, when he and his wife go out to eat or something…
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by Bill C. on Mar 30, 2009 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You came firing out of the gate with it, and then have not stopped talking about it
even though clearly it was suggested you do so. In my book…that is pretty good hammering.
And yes…having worked in the AD, I believe none of those people there made a choice on taking a job based on the racial make-up of the town they would be living in. The Boy speaks quite well to that below as well.
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by The Beef on Mar 30, 2009 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
wow...
the rare triple post. Nicely done. Internet problems?
by RoyalsFanInBillings on Mar 30, 2009 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
not really sure what is happening there...
are you seeing three of them? I kept thinking it had posted and then it would not….I only see one…let me know and I will clean it up
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by The Beef on Mar 30, 2009 5:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yep, got three
figured there was an error in there somewhere. First two have the same subject line, while the third post is different, but the content is the same.
by RoyalsFanInBillings on Mar 30, 2009 5:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
huh...refresh maybe?
I only see the one left…
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by The Beef on Mar 30, 2009 5:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why are we pretending it's irrelevant?
Because it’s irrelevant. First of all, Columbia always ranks about as high as any small city in the country in terms of “quality of life.” Pure quality of life is much higher in Columbia than Memphis. Beyond that, you’re assuming the Andersons give a crap about racial demographics. If you’ve talked to them, and they have actually said that, I take it back. If you haven’t, you’re assuming they simply would prefer Memphis because they’re black, which is silly. You may be right or wrong, but you have no idea and are just projecting based on the broadest of broad generalizations.
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by Bill C. on Mar 30, 2009 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This discussion is insane
I'm the guy that keeps Mr. Death in his pocket.
by Mizzou Grad on Mar 30, 2009 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed...I think it would be wise if this ended it
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by The Beef on Mar 30, 2009 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It wasn't the only factor...
It was one of many…and I think anyone with living experiences would be foolish to simply dismiss race as a decision on where to live.
by mpfische on Mar 30, 2009 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kentucky, never.
I would never take that job. They were unhappy with Tubby Smith and all he did was win a national championship and compete for SEC champs year after year with a shot to go higher. They ran off Gillespie after two years, why Cal would want that job is beyond me.
I think jobs like that are toxic.
That said, the money being tossed around right now is really making me nervous about MA leaving, where I wasn’t really before.
by trent714 on Mar 30, 2009 4:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Regarding Georgia...
…Mike Anderson’s agent is Jimmy Sexton. Jimmy Sexton knows how to play the game. I pretty much guarantee Sexton will talk to as many other schools as possible to drive up Missouri’s price—it’s his job, and he’s one of the sleaziest best out there.
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by Bill C. on Mar 30, 2009 4:14 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Hey
Let’s not be crazy Fanboys. It’s off a bloody fansite (as Jett just lovely stated). If something is going to be said about this, then the Tribune or Gabe is going to say something. When one of them does, then we panic and burn Memphis to the ground.
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by Mizzou Grad on Mar 30, 2009 4:28 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Agreed.
When one of them does, then we panic and burn Memphis to the ground.
I nominate this guy to lead the raging mob.
by RoyalsFanInBillings on Mar 30, 2009 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Memphis news live feed is completely insane
by jschooltiger on Mar 30, 2009 4:30 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Haha, wow... I finally looked.
My faith in the American people dwindles one chat room at a time.
by RPT on Mar 30, 2009 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
KC Star has some info
nothing major, mostly what we already know. Mizzou believed to be preparing an offer for Anderson of 1.3 million, five years.
Also has a tidbit about Calipari leaving could lead to the top-ranked shooting guard leaving Memphis, and kU was one of the schools in the hunt for the kid before he committed to Memphis.
by RoyalsFanInBillings on Mar 30, 2009 4:35 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
If Anderson leaves
I hope we pick up Billy Gillespie. He excelled in the Big 12, and I think he’s every bit as good a coach as Anderson—maybe better. I’m not hoping Anderson leaves, but if he does—there is an elite coach available who might have fond memories of his time in the Big 12.
by GoMizzou on Mar 30, 2009 5:22 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
oy...I dunno...
…I still think he’s a solid coach, but he had a lot of, uhh, rumored extracurricular problems there that got him into trouble…
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by Bill C. on Mar 30, 2009 5:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
These problems
weren’t substantiated, and they were spread by the huge anti-Gillispie crowd at UK (which existed from day 1). The level-headed UK fans—whether they liked Gillispie or not—ignored these rumors. A lot of this was discussed at the Sea of Blue blog. Many UK fans are fanatics (in the bad sense), and they’ll say anything to get rid of a guy they don’t like.
by GoMizzou on Mar 30, 2009 6:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My big issue with Billy G is...
how many of the guys that fueled his run at A&M did he recruit? I know Antoine Wright was a Melvin Watkins recruit. Wasn’t Acie Law? He hardly recruited at UK. That’s the thing I don’t like. He’s no more than solid as an X and O guy. So, if he’s not getting players that’s a recipe for mediocrity.
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by dcrockett17 on Mar 30, 2009 7:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
who recruited jodie meeks?
not saying it was gillispie, just curious
by calim on Mar 30, 2009 7:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gillispie
didn’t recruit Meeks, but he did recruit Patterson. He actually has a better reputation as a recruiter than an X and O guy. His class at Kentucky next year was going to be a top 10 class, and his classes at A&M were very good, too. (That’s why Kentucky hired him. Tubby was getting a bad reputation for his recruiting, so they wanted someone with a good reputation as a recruiter. Since they couldn’t hire their top two guys, they picked up Gillispie.) Recruiting won’t be an issue with Gillispie. Furthermore, if we were to hire Gillispie this year, we have a chance at getting some of the players from his top 10 class for next year—including Orton, a top five big man. I know his dad wasn’t very happy about what Kentucky did to Gillispie.
by GoMizzou on Mar 30, 2009 9:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That would quite the coaching musical chairs
Kentucky fires Gillespie and bring in Calipari from Memphis, who brings in Anderson from Missouri, who brings in the recently-fired Gillespie from Kentucky.
by RoyalsFanInBillings on Mar 30, 2009 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hadn't thought of it like that, but you're right.
If we lose Anderson, I don’t think we could do any better than Billy Clyde. He would have had UK in a great place next year, but that can’t happen if UK won’t allow someone to coach for over two years. Our AD is patient enough to make Gillispie feel comfortable here. Hopefully this is a needless conversation because MA will stick around. If he doesn’t, though, and that seems likely given the rumors, let’s get Billy.
by GoMizzou on Mar 30, 2009 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
F'n WHAT?
You gotta be kiddin’ me? I leave the country on the heels of the greatest moment of my life – the Good Guys in Black (sorry, Hawk) defeating the BY GOD UNIVERSITY OF MEMPHIS STATE UNIVERSITY TIGERS in the Sweet 16. I partied like I was Prince (i.e. like it was 1999 – lame pun, but it’s all I got).
And I come back, and I hear that THE EVIL EMPIRE KNOWN AS THE BY GOD UNIVERSITY OF MEMPHIS STATE UNIVERISTY TIGERS is trying to steal our coach? OUR COACH? This is outrageous! This kind of crap wouldn’t even happen in Strat-O-Matic (if coaches played a part in the game, mind you).
How could you let this happen? Okay, I’ll take a breath and realize that permission to talk to a person is a million miles away from actually hiring the fella, but I know full well that Memphis has deep pocket boosters (Fed Ex, Dunavant Industries, Pitt Hyde from AutoZone), and money won’t be too big an issue – at least for what Mike Anderson will be looking for. If Memphis really wants him, they’ll get him.
AND IT SUCKS.
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by brik on Mar 30, 2009 5:57 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
When was the last time a coach left MU under his own power? (Was not fired)
Dan Devine, to the Green Bay Packers of the NFL? Titletown!
Some of you don’t realize (Are not old enough to understand??) that MU is a destination job. CMA is not leaving. He will sign a contract extension similar to what any suitor may offer, if they offer. No way he’s taking a step back down to C-USA. I’ll acknowlege that CMA was raised and cut his teeth in the south but I don’t see him going back. He’s simply in a better place now and the money is gona be there for him. And it should be there for him, he’s earned it.
Columbia Missouri demographics are not an issue. Anderson and his family have already made that choice and they chose Columbia.
PS: Rock M Nation was more enjoyable as a somewhat quiet, sane blog without all the Chicken Littles.
by B_W on Mar 30, 2009 6:44 PM CDT reply actions 6 recs
point very much taken :-)
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by Bill C. on Mar 30, 2009 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and
So folk would say we’re in the south (not me, but some folk)
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by Mizzou Grad on Mar 30, 2009 7:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We are not in the south or the north...
Rather, we are in the south and the north.
I’d consider Columbia more in the north.
You know you’re in the south when you get grits with your breakfast.
by B_W on Mar 30, 2009 7:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
mmmmmm...
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by Bill C. on Mar 30, 2009 8:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mmm, not exactly
You know you’re in the South when you get your CHOICE of grits with your breakfast—regular or cheese.
dcrockett17,
Columbia, SC
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by dcrockett17 on Mar 30, 2009 9:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, that was the closest picture I could find...
…I actually prefer regular to cheese. We have the most amazing shrimp & grits recipe with andouille sausage that we bust out about once a month…
All this said, I don’t consider Missouri “south”. It’s just that good food is good food.
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by Bill C. on Mar 30, 2009 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Growing up in St. Louis
(mostly) I never had “good” grits or “good” iced tea until I moved to the South.
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
by dcrockett17 on Mar 30, 2009 9:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or...
when you 
get stuff in your grits, and you eat them for dinner…
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
by dcrockett17 on Mar 30, 2009 9:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
thank you
for calming everyone down.
this was getting a little crazy
by pinkelposse on Mar 30, 2009 9:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am willing to bet
that CMA stays here.
by solidpit on Mar 30, 2009 7:04 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Memphis has asked permission to talk to CMA
by mpfische on Mar 30, 2009 7:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Someone call Gabe
or Steve at the Trib. That story is also saying that Sexton is in Athens. Why in the hell would Anderson go to Georgia. They don’t give a crap about basketball there. That place (Memphis) is going bat-shit crazy about Johnny C leaving, and they’re ready to blow all the smoke they can…
That and it’s Fox. Nothing newsworthy comes from Fox.
I'm the guy that keeps Mr. Death in his pocket.
by Mizzou Grad on Mar 30, 2009 7:35 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I don't trust that story
I’m not saying that Mike Anderson is staying or going, but it would be the first time in coaching history that a school has gotten official permission to talk to a candidate about a job that is not yet open.
by Michael Atchison on Mar 30, 2009 7:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
LMAO
Fox News is generally a complete joke!
by mpfische on Mar 30, 2009 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So here's the deal
Memphis…
Where do they need to go???
I'm the guy that keeps Mr. Death in his pocket.
by Mizzou Grad on Mar 30, 2009 7:47 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
This will make me cry.
I really will cry if CMA leaves. I would be sad for his players, “his guys.” These young men have completely bought into his system and HIM.
My homer self believes he isn’t going anywhere.
When mama’s happy, everybody’s happy.
"When I first got here," said Missouri coach Mike Anderson, "it was 20 minutes of hell and 20 minutes of what the hell are you doing?"
by tigers and chiefs fan on Mar 30, 2009 7:43 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I think CMA deciding to leave would be short sighted.
OK, so people seem to agree that one of the primary reasons he may leave is that Memphis will throw more cash at him. If that’s the reason, I think he’s making a financial mistake.
With the higher pay day, combined with following a guy who hasn’t lost a conference game in like 37 years, will come higher expectations. If those expectations are not met, how quickly will they fire him?
Conversely, I think CMA has earned himself a pretty substantial grace period at Mizzou. First, his efforts toward and (at least apparent) success at running a clean program have endeared him to the AD, the media, and the state. People are pretty pumped about the anti-Quinn Snyder era, I think. No more (or at least less) embarrassment = grace period.
Second, he took a team that was picked 7th in the Big XII to the Elite Eight. Unexpected success = grace period.
Third, he has already laid the groundwork for future success. The remaining players get the system and seem to thrive in it. Future success = extended grace period.
Granted, the numbers below are arbitrary but here’s an example of what I consider most likely in each situation:
4 years at Memphis at 2.5—10 million
10 years at Mizzou (I really foresee more) at 1.3 (not to mention future raises)—13 million
Yes, I know cash now is worth more than future cash. So to offset that, I’ll throw in the endorsement capabilities in St.L and KC that will come with sustained success (ever seen Bill Self sell a credit card on the Star website?).
I think the financial benefits of building a stable and successful program from scratch (or worse) are often overlooked. A quick payday, which often by implication puts your head on the chopping block the next day, just doesn’t make sense to me. It does make sense to agents though.
by stuckinstl12 on Mar 30, 2009 9:54 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
When did RockMNation turn into Tigerboard?
Seriously, this is the worst thread I can recall on this site.
Thanks to those trying to inject sanity, but I’d recommend deleting the whole thing.
by AlaTiger on Mar 30, 2009 10:29 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Boy...
that escalated quickly… I mean, that really got out of hand fast.
rptgwb: It jumped up a notch.
It did, didn’t it?
MPFische: Yeah, I stabbed a man in the heart.
I saw that. mpfische killed a guy. Did you throw a trident?
MPFische: Yeah, there were horses, and a man on fire, and I killed a guy with a trident.
mpfische, I’ve been meaning to talk to you about that. You should find yourself a safehouse or a relative close by. Lay low for a while, because you’re probably wanted for murder.
by StoJo on Mar 30, 2009 10:48 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Geez, I go to class
and I come back to this?
One point I’d like to make is this….why would Anderson leave for Memphis, to a bunch of players that don’t know (and may not want to play in) his system, after spending the last 3 years building Mizzou? If expectations are high in Memphis for someone to follow Calipari, why would he want to take his style of play down there, where he’d have to spend the next 3-5 years working his system into place, and possibly get fired if it didn’t work soon enough to meet expectations? Frankly, why would Memphis want that?
Mike Anderson is an underpaid coach (by most accounts) who overachieved this year. He will get rewarded for that with a new contract at Mizzou. Because of his quick success, I suppose we can expect to hear his name thrown around at several schools, much like Gary Pinkel has had his name tossed around with the football teams recent success.
As far as the race issue is concerned (and I really debated posting this…): To the poster that claimed it would be an issue because Memphis is “more black” than Columbia: Are you suggesting that if we had an Asian coach offered a job at USF, that it’d be a factor? What if we had a Mexican coach offered a job at San Diego State or UT-SA? Would he be tempted because of those schools proximity to Mexico? No, probably not. Honestly, unless you’ve sat down and had a conversation with Mike Anderson, you’re just talking out of your ass, and it’s clearly showing.
by leghumpingjihadkiller on Mar 31, 2009 1:49 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Or...
…that Calipari would take the Kentucky job because he’s white? :-) Alright, that’s probably good enough for this thread…shutting ’er down and moving it back to the side…
Rock M Nation
Thrust nunchuk upward!
by Bill C. on Mar 31, 2009 6:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
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