NBA Draft Live Thread
by Bill C. on Jun 25, 2009 5:30 PM CDT
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What: The NBA Draft
When: 6:00pm CST
Where: Madison Square Garden
Why: DeMarre Carroll and Leo Lyons will attempt to become the first two Mizzou players drafted in the same year since Byron Irvin and Gary Leonard in 1989.
Television: ESPN
Radio: Um, who cares? It's on ESPN.
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First. (only reason I'm doing this is because I just heard
that Michael Jackson is dead at 50.
Nomination for the "It Was Only A Matter Of Time..." Award: Carlos Zambrano was suspended for "Inappropriate and violent actions on the field and in the dugout."
Only guy crazier than Carlos Zambrano in baseball is Julian Tavarez
How'd it happen?
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by ratherfantastic on Jun 25, 2009 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Even though he turned into an all out freak
I’ll always remember the music. RIP Mr. Jackson.
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by ratherfantastic on Jun 25, 2009 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Saw earlier that he had been rushed to UCLA med center around 12:30 LA time.
he was unconscious, not breathing at his home. CNN.com is saying it was cardiac arrest.
Nomination for the "It Was Only A Matter Of Time..." Award: Carlos Zambrano was suspended for "Inappropriate and violent actions on the field and in the dugout."
Only guy crazier than Carlos Zambrano in baseball is Julian Tavarez
And Farrah
Nomination for the "It Was Only A Matter Of Time..." Award: Carlos Zambrano was suspended for "Inappropriate and violent actions on the field and in the dugout."
Only guy crazier than Carlos Zambrano in baseball is Julian Tavarez
I knew how that happened
RIP
Cheese… milk's leap toward immortality.
by ratherfantastic on Jun 25, 2009 5:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Crap, beat me to it.
Was just getting ready to post that exact image.
Could care less about Wacko Jacko
Jackson is a new story (in the last hour, apparently)
Farrah finally got her rest this morning.
Say what you want about Jackson, and plenty could be said, the guy was an incredible musician.
Nomination for the "It Was Only A Matter Of Time..." Award: Carlos Zambrano was suspended for "Inappropriate and violent actions on the field and in the dugout."
Only guy crazier than Carlos Zambrano in baseball is Julian Tavarez
Too right, Andy
Yeah, he might have done unspeakable things with little boys, and he certainly had his idiosyncrasies (probably stemming from being in the spotlight for so long), but I challenge anyone to listen to “Don’t Stop Til You Get Enough” and not be happy.
It's a funny name.
by Turd Ferguson on Jun 25, 2009 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions
At the risk of sounding like I'm condoning a pedophile because of his talent
A person is not attracted to young children unless there is some sort of emotional damage in his past. If Latoya’s allegations about Joe Jackson are true, especially given what we know about Michael, it’s not that big of a leap to assume that Michael was abused by Joe as well. Of course, if he hadn’t been raised by Joe Jackson, he probably would not have made the music he made, either.
All-in-all, I’ll take a well-adjusted man who doesn’t sexually assault children but never produced “Thriller”.
Nomination for the "It Was Only A Matter Of Time..." Award: Carlos Zambrano was suspended for "Inappropriate and violent actions on the field and in the dugout."
Only guy crazier than Carlos Zambrano in baseball is Julian Tavarez
And that's the last I'll say on the subject
that I kinda wish I hadn’t posted on this thread, as it’s not the time nor the place.
Anyone who wants to disagree with what I posted is welcome to and you won’t get any argument from me. I certainly don’t claim to be an expert on the subject.
Nomination for the "It Was Only A Matter Of Time..." Award: Carlos Zambrano was suspended for "Inappropriate and violent actions on the field and in the dugout."
Only guy crazier than Carlos Zambrano in baseball is Julian Tavarez
It's almost a guarantee that strange things happened to him in childhood...
…even before the whole “childhood star” thing kicked in. That said, yesterday he was a half-punchline, and now he’s a fallen national hero. Always funny when that happens.
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Thrust nunchuk upward!
While we're talking about sad ends, today marks the end of an era, but the beginning of a new one as well...
Cheese… milk's leap toward immortality.
by ratherfantastic on Jun 25, 2009 5:46 PM CDT reply actions 4 recs
Can I rec this more than once?
Anyway, MTV is actually playing music videos. They’re playing MJ videos. RIP
It seems a little wierd considering the fact that KU will more than likely rape everyone in Basketball next year
But I gotta stand by my Tigers, and this Google Image search for Jesus Tyrannosaurus had much potential to be turned down.
Cheese… milk's leap toward immortality.
by ratherfantastic on Jun 25, 2009 6:34 PM CDT up reply actions
the 3rd image on that GIS is one I did this spring.
this one
The sleeper has awoken. . .awakened. . .he woke up.
by SleepyFloyd7 on Jun 25, 2009 8:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Ha!
I did see that one!
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by ratherfantastic on Jun 25, 2009 8:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Bilas praising Tyreke Evans
By showing him destroy everyone in the losing effort against Mizzou.
Cheese… milk's leap toward immortality.
by ratherfantastic on Jun 25, 2009 6:20 PM CDT reply actions
#1: Blake Griffin
I am stunned that guy was picked 1st.
Cheese… milk's leap toward immortality.
by ratherfantastic on Jun 25, 2009 6:44 PM CDT reply actions
Hey, his stuff is gold
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by ratherfantastic on Jun 25, 2009 6:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Hey, that gif is gold too
nice work
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by ratherfantastic on Jun 25, 2009 6:48 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm definitely not.
…though it’s almost preferable to having to listen to Stu Scott this much. He’s just awful. Makes Chris Bermann look almost sharp and witty. Almost.
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Back, back, back, bawk, bawk....
GONE!
Nomination for the "It Was Only A Matter Of Time..." Award: Carlos Zambrano was suspended for "Inappropriate and violent actions on the field and in the dugout."
Only guy crazier than Carlos Zambrano in baseball is Julian Tavarez
#2: Hasheem Thabeet
Even though he crushed played on the team that crushed our dreams, I still like the guy. Best of luck to you.
Cheese… milk's leap toward immortality.
by ratherfantastic on Jun 25, 2009 6:47 PM CDT reply actions
So... 3 choices
1. Clippers trade Blake Griffin
2. Clippers keep Blake but complete waste his talent
3. Clippers keep Blake, but he’s a bust.
Nomination for the "It Was Only A Matter Of Time..." Award: Carlos Zambrano was suspended for "Inappropriate and violent actions on the field and in the dugout."
Only guy crazier than Carlos Zambrano in baseball is Julian Tavarez
4. Clippers keep Blake, and he tears every knee ligament within a year.
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5. Clippers keep Blake but one of his legs fall off in the 2nd half against the new Olympia Cavaliers
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by ratherfantastic on Jun 25, 2009 7:00 PM CDT up reply actions
...and they still don't get out of the first round.
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by Bill C. on Jun 25, 2009 7:02 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Zing!
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by ratherfantastic on Jun 25, 2009 7:02 PM CDT up reply actions
I didn't think the thunder weren't going to take Rubio
I think Harden will be a beast eventually. As will the Thunder.
#3: James Harden
I really don’t know if this guy should be number 3, or even a top 10 pick, but he’ll definitely help the OKCT, which I for some reason enjoy to watch.
Cheese… milk's leap toward immortality.
by ratherfantastic on Jun 25, 2009 6:53 PM CDT reply actions
#4: Tyreke Evans
He’s really good. That is all.
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by ratherfantastic on Jun 25, 2009 6:58 PM CDT reply actions
better than Harden or Thabeet, I think.
Though he really will need to become a better outside shooter.
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Harden definitely, but Thabeet has the size to rock the league from day one
Only time will tell.
Cheese… milk's leap toward immortality.
by ratherfantastic on Jun 25, 2009 7:06 PM CDT up reply actions
#5: Ricky Rubio
This guy has it all. The hair, the face, the body, and apparently he plays basketball too! I’m predicitng slow start, but he can grow into a Steve Nash type of player in years to come.
Cheese… milk's leap toward immortality.
by ratherfantastic on Jun 25, 2009 7:05 PM CDT reply actions
#6: Jonny Flynn
Dude was a beast in college. 6 OT game? Fuggetuboutit! I hope he can grow into an All Star calibur player, but the future is cloudy. We’ll see.
Cheese… milk's leap toward immortality.
by ratherfantastic on Jun 25, 2009 7:12 PM CDT reply actions
#7: Stephen Curry
Stay classy New York. Maybe if you were a little worse you could have got him. Impact player from the get go. Only real problem is the size. Good grab by GS, I think.
Cheese… milk's leap toward immortality.
by ratherfantastic on Jun 25, 2009 7:17 PM CDT reply actions
Also
I love Dell Curry
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by ratherfantastic on Jun 25, 2009 7:18 PM CDT up reply actions
#8: Jordon Hill
AKA: Super Demarre Carroll. I expect good things from him.
Cheese… milk's leap toward immortality.
by ratherfantastic on Jun 25, 2009 7:22 PM CDT reply actions
#9: DeMar DeRozan
That’s now 4 players in the top ten that Mizzou played against. They beat 3 of them. Anyway, I didn’t really follow DeMar (who else thought it was Demarre for a second? Be honest) but he was in the Top Ten so…. anything is possible.
Cheese… milk's leap toward immortality.
by ratherfantastic on Jun 25, 2009 7:29 PM CDT reply actions
#10: Brandon Jennings
Never followed him. Ever. But people say he’s Rookie of the Year material, so I’ll stand by it.
Cheese… milk's leap toward immortality.
by ratherfantastic on Jun 25, 2009 7:33 PM CDT reply actions
#11: Terrence Williams
Mehhhhhh. He’s got the talent. He’s got the ability. But he’s cocky as hell. He’s a real show off. I don’t like him too much. He’s either going to be good, great, or flat out awful, but I won’t be following his NBA tenure.
Cheese… milk's leap toward immortality.
by ratherfantastic on Jun 25, 2009 7:40 PM CDT reply actions
#12: Gerald Henderson
Jay Bilas cries with joy. He’ll be a fine NBA’er, though there will be frequent brainfart games ala Villanova at first, so give him time to grow.
Cheese… milk's leap toward immortality.
by ratherfantastic on Jun 25, 2009 7:48 PM CDT reply actions
#13: Tyler Hansbrough the Should-have-been-a-tiger
Even though he has that bald “My son is better than yours” kind of dad that really annoys me even though he’s probably a nice guy, he’s a good, hard working player, and he’ll at the very least give it his all in the league.
Cheese… milk's leap toward immortality.
by ratherfantastic on Jun 25, 2009 7:52 PM CDT reply actions
Also, Jay Bilas' thought's on every player drafted
He’s going to be very (insert one of the following words here)
1.Great
2.Good
3.Excellent
4.Solid
5. Ect. ect.
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by ratherfantastic on Jun 25, 2009 7:53 PM CDT reply actions
I loved his summary of Curry...
Good: He has unending range. If you stand him up at 23 feet, he’ll back up and shoot from 25.
Bad: Decision-making. Takes too many 25-footers. Well-played, Jay.
Sorry…was going to contribute more to this thing but crashed dead on the sofa…
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Curry will do great
But it’s hard to acknowledge when someone you dislike says the right thing (which it is the right thing) I’m always a little hard on Bilas
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by ratherfantastic on Jun 25, 2009 8:46 PM CDT up reply actions
If that happens....
I’m taking you to Vegas tonight.
by Zou want a piece? on Jun 25, 2009 7:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Teams I'd enjoy JYD on
Suns
MAGIC
Pacers
MAGIC
Cavaliers
MAGIC
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by ratherfantastic on Jun 25, 2009 7:58 PM CDT up reply actions
#13: Brandon Jen... sorry, Earl Clark
Get used to the fact that I may never like anyone from Louisville. He’ll at least be better than T-Will in my opinion.
Cheese… milk's leap toward immortality.
by ratherfantastic on Jun 25, 2009 7:57 PM CDT reply actions
Whoops, #14
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by ratherfantastic on Jun 25, 2009 8:01 PM CDT up reply actions
#15: Austin Daye
Adam Ugly Face was cursed from the get go after Gonzaga. Daye will do fine in the NBA I think, as long as he grows a pair and faces the big boys with confidence.
Cheese… milk's leap toward immortality.
by ratherfantastic on Jun 25, 2009 8:04 PM CDT reply actions
#16: James Johnson
Don’t know. All I know was Wake Forest had Final Four talent and blew it all away.
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by ratherfantastic on Jun 25, 2009 8:09 PM CDT reply actions
#17: Jrue Holiday
Both UCLA guys stocks dropped, but don’t underestimate the talent
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by ratherfantastic on Jun 25, 2009 8:15 PM CDT reply actions
#18: Ty Lawson
The T-Wolves really want to win. And with these picks, they should show improvement.
Cheese… milk's leap toward immortality.
by ratherfantastic on Jun 25, 2009 8:21 PM CDT reply actions
#19: Jeff Teague
Sleeper hit right here
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by ratherfantastic on Jun 25, 2009 8:24 PM CDT reply actions
#20: Eric Maynor
And that’ll do it for me. I’ll keep paying attention, but I’ll be back for the possible selections of Carroll and /or Lyons.
Cheese… milk's leap toward immortality.
by ratherfantastic on Jun 25, 2009 8:30 PM CDT reply actions
Being in radio, this MJ shit is insane...
Had to do three interviews for various TV stations and voice some shit. Gahhhh!
I see I didn’t miss DeMarre going yet.
Even Stern seemed thrown by that one.
But Frischilla was able to give the same blurb about him that he had about every other international player, so…there’s that.
Seriously, can we start a collection plate to help TNT buy back the draft from ESPN? I will feel forever robbed that I didn’t get to hear what Barkley had to say about the kid from Guadalupe. This is just a bunch of people pretending to know what they’re talking about. The Inside the NBA team didn’t pretend when they didn’t know.
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Nailed it
Love Inside the NBA
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by ratherfantastic on Jun 25, 2009 9:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Damn...
…congrats to him, but I was hoping he’d go to a better team…he’s more cut out to be a role player on a good team…but hey…at least Memphis’s arena isn’t literally sinking into the Mississippi River like their last one. So they’ve got THAT going for them…
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JYD!!!! To... the Grizzlies :(
Ughhhhhhhhh. Congrats Mr. Carroll, hopefully you can do great and be traded to a better team. Celebrate Mizzou Nation!
Cheese… milk's leap toward immortality.
by ratherfantastic on Jun 25, 2009 9:09 PM CDT reply actions
JYD and Hasheem Thabeet are on the same team
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by ratherfantastic on Jun 25, 2009 9:13 PM CDT reply actions
Nice line from Chad Ford on Demarre...
…from his round-by-round analysis:
He’s a more skilled version of Renaldo Balkman.
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I'm starting to realize some things
1. Demarre got picked higher than these people: DeJuan Blair, Jeff Adrien, Danny Green, Wes Matthews, and countless other players who put up better numbers than JYD in respected areas. This may mean Memphis put things like work ethic, leadership, maturity, and energy into the mix of making the pick. Or is JYD really that good?
2. Demarre could easily average close to double digits in scoring with Memphis. He could even end up starting for them.
3. Even though they aren’t a good team, I’m starting to like the prospect of JYD playing there.
That is all.
Cheese… milk's leap toward immortality.
by ratherfantastic on Jun 25, 2009 9:25 PM CDT reply actions
Competition
Rudy Gay: Good player, obvious starter
Darrell Arther: KU Alum, averaging OK numbers for a rookie, and could easily bloom into a better player
Hakim Warrick: Averaging over 10 PPG, off the bench role player
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by ratherfantastic on Jun 25, 2009 9:37 PM CDT up reply actions
good point on #1 there...
…lots of guys with seemingly better resumes went below DeMarre. I don’t really like the competition there—as you mentioned, Gay’s at SF and Arthur and Warrick are already filling the “athletic but skinny PF” role. Not sure how many minutes he gets…which is interesting considering how bad Memphis is.
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Agreed, not really competition
But those were the only Forwards on the Grizzlies’ roster who did things for the team consistenly last season. The others all average miniscule minutes, points, and rebounds.
Cheese… milk's leap toward immortality.
by ratherfantastic on Jun 25, 2009 9:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Whoops completely misread
I guess it’ll all come down to JYD making the most of what he gets :/
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by ratherfantastic on Jun 25, 2009 9:49 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm very disappointed...
…I fully expected Knick fans to throw a COMPLETE hissyfit when they announced that NY had traded for Darko…I’m disappointed in you, Darko.
And seriously, Stu, we know who freaking Darko is. Don’t try to make yourself feel smart by explaining who he is.
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Sam Young to the Grizzlies
Another Forward
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by ratherfantastic on Jun 25, 2009 9:51 PM CDT reply actions
Well, ESPN says Leo is the 2nd best PF remaining in the Draft
But the other positions are chocked full of great players. C’mon Leo…
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by ratherfantastic on Jun 25, 2009 10:12 PM CDT reply actions
cmon..
good leo. good leo. good leo.
this he appears in a heat jersey! mr. irrelavent.
"If you believe in telekinesis, raise my hand."
Final pick was a forward, but it was Robert Dozier
Damn. I’m sure Leo can get on a roster, but I would have liked to see him get drafted.
Cheese… milk's leap toward immortality.
by ratherfantastic on Jun 25, 2009 11:08 PM CDT reply actions
Post-mortem
DeMarre goes in the first round… Leo does not go. Does this become an endorsement of CMA’s program and ideals (DeMarre, the allegedly less talented but harder working player buys in and becomes a first-rounder) or an indictment of CMA’s program (Leo, the more talented but less prone to the hard work that DeMarre put in falls completely out of the draft)? Discuss.
P.S. On a personal level, I’m STOKED for JYD! :)
Once my pants are on, I make gold records.
by Other Side of the Pillow on Jun 25, 2009 11:21 PM CDT reply actions
That and a few other intangibles
JYD was seen and promoted as the heart and soul of the team. As the wins piled on, the praise of JYD increased to a point where no other player really existed to ESPN other than brief mentions of Leo and the player of a game besides those 2 (IE: Kimmeh vs. Marquette, JT vs. Memphis). JYD was the face of the team, and that may have helped raise his stock. Leo was the silent guy who grew up but didn’t really show that other than giving his all. He was more of a silent assasin to JYD’s big personality. But, I’m still really glad DeMarre got drafted this high, and I believe Leo will make it on the roster of a team. He honestly be a more NBA ready player, talent wise, he just has to show it. On that note: Congrats JYD, and get on a team, Leo!
Cheese… milk's leap toward immortality.
by ratherfantastic on Jun 25, 2009 11:34 PM CDT up reply actions
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