BTBS National Preview, Part Two
Yesterday we took a look at the projected Top 25 in terms of rough BTBS projections. Today we ride those projections to their inevitable conclusion and look at projected standings and bowls. As a reminder, these are strictly what the numbers say, not my own personal opinion--I'm on record saying Missouri's projection is too high. Also, the projections I made through the summer have been updated to incorporate the projected turnover points data I spoke about yesterday. So without further adieu...
Big 12
| North Division | Proj. Conf. |
Proj. Overall |
Proj. Bowl |
| Missouri | 6-2 | 10-3 | Holiday |
| Nebraska | 5-3 | 9-3 | Alamo |
| Kansas | 4-4 | 8-4 | Independence |
| Kansas State | 3-5 | 6-6 | |
| Colorado | 2-6 | 5-7 | |
| Iowa State | 0-8 | 3-9 | |
| South Division | Proj. Conf. |
Proj. Overall |
Proj. Bowl |
| Texas* | 8-0 | 13-0 | BCS Championship |
| Oklahoma | 7-1 | 11-1 | Fiesta |
| Oklahoma State | 6-2 | 10-2 | Cotton |
| Texas Tech | 4-4 | 8-4 | Sun |
| Texas A&M | 2-6 | 5-7 | |
| Baylor | 1-7 | 3-9 |
- As I mentioned before, not having a "All-Americans lost" qualifier instead of just "starters lost" helps Missouri out quite a bit, as did the turnover numbers from 2008. I don't think they'll go 10-2, but...well, obviously I wouldn't complain if it happened.
- Honestly, I'm thinking a more likely scenario in the South is that OU beats Texas, then OU loses to somebody else and they both end up 11-1. OU's offensive line won't kill them often, but it will bite them once, I think. And honestly, I've seen quite a few people now say that Texas will beat OU because their O-line is better than OU's. But...well, their O-lines won't face off against each other, will they? The Texas D-line is perfectly qualified from a "caliber of recruit" perspective, but until I see somebody doing pretty credible Brian Orakpo and Roy Miller impersonations, then that's a question mark just like OU's offensive line is.
- (And as I mentioned yesterday, there is a separation of about 0.01 between OU and Texas right now, so...yeah.)
- Wherein I disagree with My Own Numbers, #1: I think Baylor will be better than 3-9, but they did benefit a little more than you'd expect from turnovers last year, so we'll see. They might still be a year away from true bowl contention. Then again, if Phil Taylor is what they say he is, that's a bonus the numbers don't account for.
ACC
| Atlantic Division | Proj. Conf. |
Proj. Overall |
Proj. Bowl |
| Clemson* | 6-2 | 10-3 | Orange |
| Florida State | 6-2 | 8-4 | Chick-Fil-A |
| Boston College | 5-3 | 9-3 | Champs Sports |
| Wake Forest | 4-4 | 8-4 | Emerald |
| Maryland | 4-4 | 7-5 | EagleBank |
| N.C. State | 3-5 | 7-5 | GMAC |
| Coastal Division | Proj. Conf. |
Proj. Overall |
Proj. Bowl |
| Miami-FL | 5-3 | 7-6 | Meineke Car Care |
| Georgia Tech | 5-3 | 8-4 | Gator |
| Virginia Tech | 5-3 | 7-5 | Music City |
| Virginia | 3-5 | 5-7 | |
| North Carolina | 2-6 | 5-7 | |
| Duke | 0-8 | 2-10 |
- Another massive jumble in the ACC, where eight of 12 teams are projected between 3-5 and 5-3. Clemson and Florida State seem to have a slight edge over everybody else, and Clemson wins the tie-breaker.
- Projected Disappointment #1: Virginia Tech. They benefitted tremendously from turnovers last year (#1 in the country in Turnover Points Margin), and while I'm pretty sure Frank Beamer teams always end up on the right side of the turnover battle, they should still see a fall of 5-6 points per game. That's enough to drop them into a major dogfight with Miami and Georgia Tech for the division crown.
- I'm not sure what the tie-breaker rules are in the ACC, but here's how Miami wins the Coastal--all three teams go 1-1 against each other, while Miami goes 3-0 against the rest of the Coastal (GT and VT both go 2-1). So they earn the right to lose to Clemson in the title game. But I'll say this: I do think Clemson-Miami title game would get a lot more viewers/attendance than the last couple of VT-BC showdowns...so they have that going for them...which is nice.
- Wherein I disagree with My Own Numbers, #2: I think North Carolina will go better than 5-7. I also think Maryland could sneak into 8-9 wins if things bounce right, but we'll see.
Big East
| Proj. Conf. |
Proj. Overall |
Proj. Bowl |
|
| Rutgers | 5-2 | 9-3 | Orange |
| Cincinnati | 4-3 | 8-4 | Papajohns.com |
| Connecticut | 4-3 | 8-4 | International |
| Pittsburgh | 4-3 | 8-4 | Meineke Car Care |
| South Florida | 4-3 | 8-4 | St. Petersburg |
| West Virginia | 4-3 | 8-4 | Gator |
| Louisville | 3-4 | 7-5 | Insight |
| Syracuse | 0-7 | 2-10 |
- Man oh man, I really hope Syracuse knocks off Rutgers, and we have a six-way tie for first (Rutgers is already losing to Louisville, so we can't have the 7-way tie I was aiming for), and all at 8-4, no less.. Nothing entertained me more than when that happened in the SWC in the mid-'90s. As it stands, this should still be a ridiculously fun slap-fight to watch.
- Really, all of this seems pretty plausible, though I think some folks would disagree with Louisville doing that well. They're still benefitting from solid 5-year numbers, thanks to the end of the Petrino era, and that probably has them a bit high.
- I mentioned a while back that the initial (non-turnover-influenced) numbers had Rutgers going 12-0. I was disappointed to see that projection fall, but they're still a game better than everybody else, I guess.
Big Ten
| Proj. Conf. |
Proj. Overall |
Proj. Bowl |
|
| Penn State | 8-0 | 12-0 | Rose |
| Ohio State | 7-1 | 11-1 | Sugar |
| Iowa | 6-2 | 10-2 | Capital One |
| Illinois | 5-3 | 7-5 | Outback |
| Wisconsin | 4-4 | 8-4 | Alamo |
| Minnesota | 4-4 | 7-5 | Champs Sports |
| Northwestern | 3-5 | 7-5 | Insight |
| Michigan State | 3-5 | 6-6 | Texas |
| Michigan | 2-6 | 6-6 | Motor City |
| Indiana | 1-7 | 4-8 | |
| Purdue | 1-7 | 3-9 |
- Penn State is projected to beat Ohio State by 1.1 points...and that's the only game projected within 12 points. They do suffer some pretty scary losses at WR, but their schedule sets up quite nicely for a good run nonetheless.
- Would Michigan accept a Motor City Bowl bid? Normally, I would say no, but after last year, they just might.
- Wherein I disagree with My Own Numbers, #3: I think that Michigan State will end up doing pretty well this year, opening the offense up a bit after leaning so heavily on Javon Ringer last year. Not that there's anything wrong with a Texas Bowl showdown against mighty UL-Lafayette or anything, ahem, but I think they'll do better than that.
Conference USA
| East Division | Proj. Conf. |
Proj. Overall |
Proj. Bowl |
| Southern Miss | 7-1 | 9-4 | Armed Forces |
| Marshall | 5-3 | 7-5 | Hawaii |
| Memphis | 4-4 | 5-7 | |
| UAB | 4-4 | 5-7 | |
| Central Florida | 3-5 | 5-7 | |
| East Carolina | 3-5 | 4-8 | |
| West Division | Proj. Conf. |
Proj. Overall |
Proj. Bowl |
| Tulsa* | 7-1 | 10-3 | Liberty |
| Houston | 7-1 | 9-3 | St. Petersburg |
| SMU | 4-4 | 7-5 | New Orleans |
| Rice | 3-5 | 5-7 | |
| Tulane | 1-7 | 2-10 | |
| UTEP | 0-8 | 2-10 |
- This appears to be a 3-team league this year, with Southern Miss, Tulsa, and Houston fighting it out for supremacy.
- Because of the mediocrity everywhere else in the league, SMU sneaks into a bowl bid...which I must admit, would be pretty cool.
- Projected Disappointment #2: East Carolina. They were heavy on the smoke and mirrors last year, winning the conference despite wholly mediocre stats (after beating WVU and VT, anyway). They're clearly well-coached, and because of that they might always overachieve above the projections, but they're a pretty good candidate for disappointment when all is said and done.
- Looks like this might be Mike Price's last year with a West Texas zip code.
Independents
| Proj. Conf. |
Proj. Overall |
Proj. Bowl |
|
| Notre Dame | N/A | 6-6 | Poinsettia |
| Navy | N/A | 6-7 | |
| Army | N/A | 5-7 |
- Projected Disappointment #3: Notre Dame. Mentioned this yesterday, but projecting Notre Damn is damn impossible right now. A hair better than projected, and they shoot straight to 10-2 or 11-1. A hair worse, and the Charlie Weis Era ends at 3-9 or 4-8.
- You mean Navy might actually miss a bowl this year?? That never happens...meanwhile, Army almost sneaks into a bid, but a 10-point loss to Navy ends the dream.
MAC
| East Division | Proj. Conf. |
Proj. Overall |
Proj. Bowl |
| Bowling Green | 7-1 | 7-6 | GMAC |
| Ohio | 5-3 | 7-5 | Humanitarian |
| Akron | 5-3 | 6-6 | |
| Temple | 4-4 | 6-6 | EagleBank |
| Kent State | 3-5 | 4-8 | |
| Miami-OH | 1-7 | 1-11 | |
| Buffalo | 0-8 | 1-11 | |
| West Division | Proj. Conf. |
Proj. Overall |
Proj. Bowl |
| Central Michigan* | 7-1 | 9-4 | Motor City |
| Northern Illinois | 5-3 | 7-5 | International |
| Toledo | 5-3 | 6-6 | New Mexico |
| Ball State | 4-4 | 6-6 | |
| Eastern Michigan | 3-5 | 4-8 | |
| Western Michigan | 3-5 | 4-8 |
- I realize Akron would probably get a bid over Temple with a better conference record, but I just couldn't resist. There should be rules like "If you haven't been to a bowl in __ years, and you win six games, you're in no matter what."
- Projected Disappointment #4: Buffalo. Another smoke-and-mirrors team, Buffalo relied on a heavy 4.5-point advantage in turnovers to win a dead-even division and upset Ball State for the conference title. Turner Gill's too good a coach for them to actually go 1-11, but it would surprise me if they're able to get back to a bowl this year, especially after losing their starting running back.
- Projected Disappointment #5: Western Michigan. Most have Central Michigan winning the conference, of course, but it seems like most have Western Michigan as the second-best team. Apparently the numbers disagree.
Mountain West
| Proj. Conf. |
Proj. Overall |
Proj. Bowl |
|
| TCU | 8-0 | 12-0 | Fiesta |
| BYU | 7-1 | 10-2 | Las Vegas |
| Utah | 6-2 | 9-3 | Armed Forces |
| Air Force | 3-5 | 5-7 | |
| Colorado State | 3-5 | 5-7 | |
| New Mexico | 3-5 | 4-8 | |
| San Diego State | 2-6 | 5-7 | |
| UNLV | 2-6 | 3-9 | |
| Wyoming | 2-6 | 3-9 |
- I don't see TCU getting past Clemson in Death Valley, but if they do they could be staring 12-0 in the face. Of course, now that I've said that, watch them lose to Virginia this week.
- This is kind of a nightmare scenario for the Mountain West--people will be watching them extra closely this year after all the "let them join the BCS!" talk this offseason, and having only three teams qualify for a bowl (with three more stuck at 5 wins) would damage the perception quite a bit.
- Wherein I disagree with My Own Numbers, #4: I admit it. I'm a complete and total homer. But if Dave Christensen can bring any offensive improvement to the equation, a defense that improved significantly down the stretch last year could at least get them to 4-5 wins instead of three. They have six games projected within seven points and are projected to go 2-4 in those games. Go 4-2, and that's some pretty good first-year improvement right there.
Pac-10
| Proj. Conf. |
Proj. Overall |
Proj. Bowl |
|
| Oregon | 9-0 | 11-1 | Rose |
| USC | 8-1 | 10-2 | Holiday |
| California | 7-2 | 10-2 | Sun |
| Oregon State | 6-3 | 9-3 | Las Vegas |
| Arizona | 5-4 | 7-5 | Emerald |
| UCLA | 4-5 | 6-6 | Poinsettia |
| Stanford | 3-6 | 5-7 | |
| Arizona State | 2-7 | 4-8 | |
| Washington | 1-8 | 2-10 | |
| Washington State | 0-9 | 0-12 |
- Wherein I disagree with My Own Numbers, #5: USC was actually projected to go 11-1 (9-0), but I couldn't help it. I instituted a manual "starting a true freshman QB" penalty. I just don't see them winning in Eugene with a freshman QB who was very INT-prone last year in high school, and a defensive line that potentially can't take much advantage of Oregon's young offensive line.
- If Stanford gets anything from their defense, their offense should be able to bear a big load in getting them to a bowl. They have nine games projected within nine points or less, going 4-5 in those nine. They're projected to lose by 0.8 points to UCLA in a "winner is bowl eligible game," so they're certainly close.
SEC
| East Division | Proj. Conf. |
Proj. Overall |
Proj. Bowl |
| Florida* | 8-0 | 13-0 | BCS Championship |
| Georgia | 7-1 | 10-2 | Capital One |
| Tennessee | 4-4 | 8-4 | Outback |
| South Carolina | 2-6 | 4-8 | |
| Vanderbilt | 2-6 | 4-8 | |
| Kentucky | 1-7 | 4-8 | |
| West Division | Proj. Conf. |
Proj. Overall |
Proj. Bowl |
| Alabama | 7-1 | 11-2 | Sugar |
| LSU | 6-2 | 10-2 | Cotton |
| Arkansas | 4-4 | 8-4 | Chick-Fil-A |
| Ole Miss | 4-4 | 8-4 | Music City |
| Auburn | 3-5 | 7-5 | Independence |
| Mississippi State | 0-8 | 1-11 |
- Projected Disappointment #6: Ole Miss, who in most cases should be perfectly happy with a chance at 9-4--that would mean they've bounced up from the ashes in which they resided during Ed Orgeron's tenure and sustained the bounce--but now 8-4 would be considered a disappointment for a Top 10 team. I definitely think the conventional wisdom is out of whack for the Rebels, who absolutely have a shot at glory with as agreeable a schedule as is possible in the SEC, but getting past both Alabama and LSU is a lot to ask, at home or on the road.
- Both Tennessee and Auburn are riding "5-year success" numbers to a projected bounce-back season. I doubt they both bounce back, but I pretty much guarantee at least one will.
- Meanwhile, Arkansas is projected to be quite stout this season, but their schedule bites them a bit, and they end up at 8-4...which is still decent improvement.
- Poor Mississippi State. It's quite possible that Dan Mullen, their offensive whiz-kid coach they hired from Florida, can whip up some offensive success and make MSU better than expected, but the schedule is just brutal. Only two of their losses (Houston, Middle Tennessee) are projected within less than ten points, meaning anything better than 3-9 will take a pretty hefty upset.
Sun Belt
| Proj. Conf. |
Proj. Overall |
Proj. Bowl |
|
| Troy | 8-0 | 10-2 | Papajohns.com |
| Middle Tennessee | 7-1 | 9-3 | New Orleans |
| UL-Lafayette | 5-3 | 6-6 | Texas |
| Florida Atlantic | 4-4 | 5-7 | |
| UL-Monroe | 4-4 | 5-7 | |
| Florida International | 4-4 | 4-8 | |
| Arkansas State | 2-6 | 3-9 | |
| North Texas | 1-7 | 1-11 | |
| Western Kentucky | 1-7 | 1-11 |
- Tight wins over Memphis (2.6 points), Mississippi State (5.4), Florida Atlantic (1.3), UL-Lafayette (6.3) and UL-Monroe (0.1) drive Middle Tennessee to a lovely projected season, but going 5-0 in games that close is a bit much to ask, I would think.
- I'm not sure how this scenario would play out--if, because other conferences struggle to fill their bowl allotments and a better bowl than New Orleans opens up, I would assume the Sun Belt would try to strive for Troy to fill that slot and have their runner-up go to New Orleans instead, but I'm not sure. That's what I did here, with Troy jumping up to PapaJohns.com, while Middle Tennessee fills in in N'awlins.
WAC
| Proj. Conf. |
Proj. Overall |
Proj. Bowl |
|
| Boise State | 8-0 | 13-0 | Liberty |
| Nevada | 7-1 | 10-2 | New Mexico |
| Hawaii | 5-3 | 9-4 | Hawaii |
| Fresno State | 5-3 | 6-6 | Humanitarian |
| Louisiana Tech | 4-4 | 5-7 | |
| Utah State | 4-4 | 5-7 | |
| San Jose State | 2-6 | 3-9 | |
| New Mexico State | 1-7 | 2-11 | |
| Idaho | 0-8 | 0-12 |
- For what it's worth, I actually do think Utah State could be pretty solid this year. I know you were dying to know that.
- Pretty clear who the class of the conference is here, though Boise's projections are interesting for two reasons: 1) they're projected to beat Oregon, and 2) if I'm not mistaken (and I very well could be), if two non-BCS teams go undefeated, the BCS bowls only have to take one unless one is in the title game. Is that right? If so, the lower-ranked of TCU and Boise would be S.O.L., and I'm not sure which team that would be. I had TCU ranked higher, so I went with them, but thanks to their reputation, Boise might actually be ranked higher despite losing head-to-head with TCU last year.
Bowl Projections
| Date | Bowl | Tie-ins | Matchup |
| 12/19 | New Mexico | MWC vs WAC | Nevada (10-2) vs Toledo (6-6) |
| 12/19 | St. Petersburg | Big East vs C-USA | Houston (9-3) vs South Florida (8-4) |
| 12/20 | New Orleans | C-USA vs Sun Belt #1 | Middle Tennessee (9-3) vs SMU (7-5) |
| 12/22 | Las Vegas | MWC #1 vs Pac-10 | BYU (10-2) vs Oregon State (9-3) |
| 12/23 | Poinsettia | MWC vs Pac-10 #6 | Notre Dame (6-6) vs UCLA (6-6) |
| 12/24 | Hawaii | C-USA vs WAC | Hawaii (9-4) vs Marshall (7-5) |
| 12/26 | Motor City | Big Ten #7 vs MAC | Central Michigan (9-4) vs Michigan (6-6) |
| 12/26 | Meineke Car Care | ACC #5-7 vs Big East #3 | Pittsburgh (8-4) vs Miami-FL (7-6) |
| 12/26 | Emerald | ACC #5-7 vs Pac-10 | Wake Forest (8-4) vs Arizona (7-5) |
| 12/27 | Music City | ACC #5-7 vs SEC |
Ole Miss (8-4) vs Virginia Tech (7-5) |
| 12/28 | Independence | Big 12 vs SEC | Kansas (8-4) vs Auburn (7-5) |
| 12/29 | Eagle Bank | ACC #8 vs Army | Maryland (7-5) vs Temple (6-6) |
| 12/29 | Champs Sports | ACC #4 vs Big Ten #4-5 | Boston College (9-3) vs Minnesota (7-5) |
| 12/30 | Humanitarian | MWC vs WAC | Ohio (7-5) vs Fresno State (6-6) |
| 12/30 | Holiday | Big 12 #3 vs Pac-10 #2 | USC (10-2) vs Missouri (10-3) |
| 12/30 | Texas | Big 12 #8 vs Navy | Michigan State (6-6) vs UL-Lafayette (6-6) |
| 12/31 | Armed Forces | C-USA vs MWC | Utah (9-3) vs Southern Miss (9-4) |
| 12/31 | Sun | Big 12 vs Pac-10 #3 | California (10-2) vs Texas Tech (8-4) |
| 12/31 | Insight | Big Ten #6 vs Big 12 #6 | Northwestern (7-5) vs Lousiville (7-5) |
| 12/31 | Chick-Fil-A | ACC #2 vs SEC | Florida State (8-4) vs Arkansas (8-4) |
| 1/1 | Outback | Big Ten #3 vs SEC | Tennessee (8-4) vs Illinois (7-5) |
| 1/1 | Capital One | Big Ten #2 vs SEC | Georgia (10-2) vs Iowa (10-2) |
| 1/1 | Gator | ACC #3 vs Big East/ND | West Virginia (8-4) vs Georgia Tech (8-4) |
| 1/1 | Rose | BCS vs BCS | Penn State (12-0) vs Oregon (11-1) |
| 1/1 | Sugar | BCS vs BCS | Alabama (11-2) vs Ohio State (11-1) |
| 1/2 | International | Big East vs MAC | Connecticut (8-4) vs Northern Illinois (7-5) |
| 1/2 | PapaJohns.com | Big East vs SEC | Troy (10-2) vs Cincinnati (8-4) |
| 1/2 | Cotton | Big 12 #2 vs SEC | Oklahoma State (10-2) vs LSU (10-2) |
| 1/2 | Liberty | C-USA #1 vs SEC | Boise State (13-0) vs Tulsa (10-3) |
| 1/2 | Alamo | Big Ten #4-5 vs Big 12 #5 | Nebraska (9-3) vs Wisconsin (8-4) |
| 1/4 | Fiesta | BCS vs BCS | TCU (12-0) vs Oklahoma (11-1) |
| 1/5 | Orange | BCS vs BCS | Clemson (10-3) vs Rutgers (9-3) |
| 1/6 | GMAC | ACC #9 vs MAC | N.C. State (7-5) vs Bowling Green (7-6) |
| 1/7 | BCS Championship | BCS #1 vs BCS #2 |
Florida (13-0) vs Texas (13-0) |
- Most interesting matchups: Independence, Cotton, Sugar, Gator, and Music City Bowls.
- Least interesting: Texas, Texas, Texas, Texas, Texas, and Texas Bowls.
- I would NOT be excited about playing USC in San Diego. Opportunity for greatness, etc., but yikes.
- I can pretty much guarantee that the BCS Championship Game won't be this easy to pick. Strange things always happen (2004-05 aside), and needless to say the preseason #1 and #2 teams rarely make the title games in such clean fashion.
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if you think that's "easy,"
about 100,000 people in happy valley would like a word with you.
by nycbirdo on Sep 1, 2009 2:22 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
heh...
…I mean, I’m all for 3 undefeated “big-time” teams like that because it gets us one step closer to a playoff (then again, I’m tired of the uproar, so maybe not), but if the preseason #1 and #2 teams go undefeated, there’s simply no way they won’t be in the title game…unless the cake teams on Texas’ schedule turn out to all go 1-11 or something.
Rock M Nation
Thrust nunchuk upward!
by Bill C. on Sep 1, 2009 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It would be highly coincidental
A PSU squad that defeats every team by 12+ points aside from one or two teams, then plays Oregon in the Rose Bowl and ends up without a national title? Sounds like the 1994 squad. Actually, there is one difference: that squad smoke O$U 63-14. I’d love to see that again.
by Cairo on Sep 2, 2009 8:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
GUUUUUH.
USC vs. Missouri in the Holiday Bowl?

"I love winning." - rockin_rangers, on May 16, 2009
by ghtd36 on Sep 1, 2009 2:36 PM CDT reply actions 4 recs
For a potential USC vs Mizzou game I submitt my reaction

Of course that really isn’t me, but you get the quitely optomistic from this right? right?
NCAA Football; better than everything. That is an understatement.
by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Sep 1, 2009 8:31 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
I want USC in San Diego
I want to beat those bastards
by mcboomofdoom on Sep 1, 2009 2:38 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I like your attitude...
…but I think I’m with ghtd36 on this one.
Rock M Nation
Thrust nunchuk upward!
by Bill C. on Sep 1, 2009 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
dont be afraid
Barkley loves to throw the ball to the opposing team. Also, I have heard that Carroll wanted Barkley to start all along because he wants his own Tebow. I am not afraid of the Trojans, because they burst under pressure
by mcboomofdoom on Sep 1, 2009 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Umm...
How can you qualify that he loves to throw the ball to the opposing team? Even if he does, that means he’s still only thrown to USC guys in the time he’s been in college.
by RPT on Sep 1, 2009 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agree with rpt
Besides, Holiday Bowl for Mizzou this season? I think I’ll take it…like Jim Mora said. “I don’t care who you play”.
"Wherever you go, there you are" - Buckaroo Bonzai
by brik on Sep 1, 2009 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fun fact:
Matt Barkley has zero career collegiate interceptions.

"I love winning." - rockin_rangers, on May 16, 2009
by ghtd36 on Sep 1, 2009 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
using someones track record in high school
is completely reasonable for predicting how they will play in college. Barkley did not play in the highest level in California and he threw 18 interceptions.
by mcboomofdoom on Sep 1, 2009 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
then again
Reggie Ball only threw 2 ints in his senior year of high school. So I might be wrong
by mcboomofdoom on Sep 1, 2009 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
perhaps?

I'm the guy that keeps Mr. Death in his pocket.
by Mizzou Grad on Sep 1, 2009 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
haha
"It's a BLT with a fried crab on it, Whaaaaaaaaa?"
by pinkelposse on Sep 1, 2009 3:24 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
a manual penalty...
I am pretty sure your numbers would like a word with you out back…something about trust…
"Write a wise saying and your name will live forever." - Anonymous
Rock M Nation
by The Beef on Sep 1, 2009 6:17 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
yeah, I know....
…I just couldn’t help myself. They’re so upset with me.
Rock M Nation
Thrust nunchuk upward!
by Bill C. on Sep 1, 2009 7:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sucks to be Idaho.
Chicago White Sox Examiner — I wish I could cuss right now.
by UribeAuction on Sep 1, 2009 7:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
How can Nubs and Okie Light be in the Cotton?
by Big Head on Sep 1, 2009 7:43 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
D'oh! Fixed.
Rock M Nation
Thrust nunchuk upward!
by Bill C. on Sep 1, 2009 8:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah I was wondering thye same thing.
"It's a BLT with a fried crab on it, Whaaaaaaaaa?"
by pinkelposse on Sep 1, 2009 8:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was picturing a best of OSU/NU team against LSU.
That’d be cool.
by Phenomenal Smith on Sep 1, 2009 9:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Speaing of Nebraska, anybody else see Marlon Lucky get cut on Hard Knocks?
Hilarious. I guess winning five theoretical Heismans doesn’t get you very far in the NFL.
Chicago White Sox Examiner — I wish I could cuss right now.
by UribeAuction on Sep 1, 2009 10:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
starters lost....
I’d love to see how strong the correlation is between “returning starters” and improvement. I think too much is made of how many starters are returning. Often, not returning starters might be a good thing. Plus, I’m not sure how they get the numbers – I was watching CFL the other day and they were counting a team’s returning starters and included three running backs.
By the way, great work. Thanks for doing these projections.
by Phenomenal Smith on Sep 1, 2009 10:01 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
yeah, you can skew starters returning. Only 3 teams start 3 RB’s I believe, Tech, Navy, and now Army so unless it was one of those 3, that’s a good example of skewing that stat.
by BerryGT on Sep 2, 2009 4:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ole Miss
8-4, 4-4 in the SEC and behind Arkansas? Is this a joke? I’m assuming that means you’re picking the Rebels to lose to Bama, LSU, and Arkansas all at home? I understand wanting to be the guy that can say I told you so if the Rebels don’t live up to the hype, but that’s just ridiculous. The only way that happens is if, God forbid, knock on wood, etc., Snead, McCluster, and half the d-line all go down before October. Picking us behind Arkansas is laughable. The Rebels beat them in Arkansas last year before they had the offense rolling, and I can 100% guarantee Nutt will beat his old team by two touchdowns minimum in Oxford. And that’s being cautious. If the Rebels are healthy, it’ll be a 4+ TD game. The only way Arkansas gets to 8 wins this year is if pigs learn to fly.
by jfull10 on Sep 3, 2009 9:28 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
You realize these are all coming from numbers and projections, right?
You might not want to take it personally.
Rock M Nation
Thrust nunchuk upward!
by Bill C. on Sep 3, 2009 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

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