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Confused?  Catch up with the BTBS Primer.

To continue with the "Mizzou Beats ____" theme, I guess I should start calling this "Mizzou Beats Oklahoma: The Stats," eh?  But enough with the jibber jabber -- let's get to the stats!  Fascinating game, this one.

Mizzou 36, Oklahoma 27

Mizzou Oklahoma Mizzou Oklahoma
Close % 100.0% STANDARD DOWNS
Field Position % 53.1% 48.0% Success Rate 57.9% 58.2%
Leverage % 70.4% 73.3% PPP 0.39 0.33
S&P 0.967 0.912
TOTAL
EqPts 27.1 21.2 PASSING DOWNS
Close Success Rate 50.6% 49.3% Success Rate 33.3% 25.0%
Close PPP 0.33 0.28 PPP 0.21 0.15
Close S&P 0.841 0.777 S&P 0.540 0.405
RUSHING TURNOVERS
EqPts 11.4 6.1 Number 2 3
Close Success Rate 51.3% 54.2% Turnover Pts 8.8 18.1
Close PPP 0.29 0.25 Turnover Pts Margin +9.3 -9.3
Close S&P 0.806 0.796
Line Yards/carry 2.40 3.13 Q1 S&P 0.763 0.942
Q2 S&P 0.899 0.848
PASSING Q3 S&P 0.538 0.784
EqPts 15.7 15.1 Q4 S&P 1.089 0.255
Close Success Rate 50.0% 47.1%
Close PPP 0.37 0.30 1st Down S&P 0.809 0.583
Close S&P 0.873 0.767 2nd Down S&P 1.025 1.109
SD/PD Sack Rate 0.0% / 0.0% 0.0% / 5.9% 3rd Down S&P 0.591 0.572
Projected Pt. Margin: Mizzou +15.2 | Actual Pt. Margin: Mizzou +9

A Game of Inches and Decimal Points

Turnovers aside, it is difficult to find too many instances where Mizzou had an extreme advantage in this game.  In the end, they were just a little better across the board.  They were a bit better in the field position battle, a bit better running the ball, a bit better on standard downs, a bit better on passing downs, and a bit better on second and third downs.  In the end, the Tigers ruled four categories:

  • Passing S&P: Mizzou 0.873, Oklahoma 0.767.  This was fueled mostly by a PPP (explosiveness) advantage.
  • Passing Downs S&P: Mizzou 0.540, Oklahoma 0.405.  The Gabbert-to-Jackson connection bailed Mizzou out repeatedly on their scoring drives, but as a whole the Mizzou offense was only decent on passing downs.  The Mizzou defense, however, was incredible.  Oklahoma was able to run the ball relatively well Saturday night, but anytime Mizzou forced a passing down, they took full advantage of it.
  • 1st Down S&P: Mizzou 0.809, Oklahoma 0.583.  Though Oklahoma faced slightly fewer passing downs (Leverage Rate), this suggests that Mizzou's passing downs were much more manageable, and Mizzou's second down successes (both teams were great on that down for some reason) were coming on second-and-6 instead of second-and-9.
  • Turnover Points: Mizzou won the turnover points battle by 9.3 and the game by 9.  Hmm.

Star-divide

Damn, Blaine.

  • Mizzou's Average Passing S&P+, First Five Games: 122.3.
  • Mizzou's Average Passing S&P+, Last Two Games: 144.5.

Or if you prefer basic stats...

  • Blaine Gabbert, First Five Games: 120-for-180 passing (66.7%), 1230 yards (6.83/pass), 7 TD (3.9% TD%), 3 INT (1.7% INT).
  • Blaine Gabbert, Last Two Games: 61-for-89 passing (68.5%), 669 yards (7.52/pass), 4 TD (4.5% TD%), 0 INT

His completion percentage, yards per pass, touchdown percentage and interception percentage (which was already low) have all improved.  He hasn't fled the pocket into the arms of a pass rusher, he hasn't frozen up after his first read is covered, and he has thrown amazingly accurate balls downfield.  And on Saturday, he even checked down to the running backs frequently and successfully.  He has been incredible.

Since the end of the Colorado game, when everybody was questioning his health, wondering if he was the right fit for the offense, and pining for James Franklin (which was obviously rather ridiculous at the time as well), Gabbert has become the quarterback everybody hoped he would become.  Hopefully he still finds the chip-on-the-shoulder he apparently needs this week even though nobody is really doubting him anymore.  Hopefully Nebraska fans send him some hateful e-mails/phone messages/Twitter responses to get him fired up.

Targets and Catches

Player Targets Catches Catch% Target% Rec. Yds. Yds. Per Target
Jerrell Jackson 11 9 81.8% 26.2% 139 12.6
Michael Egnew 9 7 77.8% 21.4% 8 0.9
Wes Kemp 6 4 66.7% 14.3% 71 11.8
T.J. Moe 6 3 50.0% 14.3% 36 6.0
De'Vion Moore 2 2 100.0% 4.8% 3 1.5
Kendial Lawrence 2 1 50.0% 4.8% 22 11.0
Marcus Lucas 1 1 100.0% 2.4% 11 11.0
Brandon Gerau 1 1 100.0% 2.4% 9 9.0
Henry Josey 1 1 100.0% 2.4% 9 9.0
Marcus Murphy 1 1 100.0% 2.4% 0 0.0
N/A 2 0 0.0% 4.8% 0 0.0
TOTAL 42 30 71.4% 100.0% 308 7.3
TOTAL (WR) 27 18 66.7% 64.3% 266 9.9
TOTAL (RB) 6 5 83.3% 14.3% 34 5.7
TOTAL (TE) 9 7 77.8% 21.4% 8 0.9

In 2007, Mizzou's vanilla defense was burned by Illinois, Ole Miss and Illinois State in non-conference play.  Then it unleashed hell on most conference foes, blitzing twice as much and playing much more aggressive.  Either Gary Pinkel, Matt Eberflus and the rest of the defensive staff were holding something in reserve for conference play, or it just took them a while to figure out what they had.

In 2010, the same thing could almost be said about the offense.  San Diego State game aside, Mizzou spent most of its first five games playing things straight, going horizontal for much of its offensive attack, taking few risks downfield, and throwing a vast majority of its passes to two targets, T.J. Moe and Michael Egnew.  In the last two games, however, things have opened up beautifully.  Likely as a product of both game-planning and opponents' defensive efforts, Wes Kemp and Jerrell Jackson have actually been targeted more (38 times) than Egnew and Moe (37) the last two games, and they have come through in a major way.  Mizzou now has four receivers who have had at least 89 receiving yards in a given game and are on pace for at least 50 catches each.  (All four each have three touchdowns as well, for what that's worth.)

  • Receptions Pace (13-game season): Egnew 104, Moe 98, Kemp 50, Jackson 50
  • Receptions Pace (14-game season): Egnew 112, Moe 106, Kemp 54, Jackson 54

I gave both 13- and 14-game options because ... well, nevermind.

This is exactly the passing attack we hoped we would see this year -- two outstanding possession options in Moe and Egnew, two potentially outstanding downfield options in Kemp and Jackson, and a host of other potential receivers (Gerau, Washington, Lucas) stepping up here and there.

Because It's So Pretty

Here are the fourth-quarter stats from Saturday, submitted without comment:

  • Mizzou: 192 total yards (16 rushes, 97 yards; 8-for-9 passing, 95 yards)
  • Oklahoma: 7 total yards (2 rushes, 7 yards; 0-for-7 passing, 0 yards, 1 INT)

Holy Youth

Nevermind the exciting young players who are either coming into the program (Sheldon Richardson, for instance) or haven't quite made the depth chart yet (Jimmie Hunt, for instance).  Here's what happens if we take the current depth chart (PDF) and project it forward for two years.  We're focused on the present right now -- for very, very obvious reasons -- but I couldn't help myself.

2010 2011 2012
OFFENSE (Ret. Starters in bold)
QB Blaine Gabbert (Jr)
James Franklin (Fr)
Blaine Gabbert (Sr*)
James Franklin (So)
James Franklin (Jr)
RB De'Vion Moore (Jr)
Henry Josey (Fr)
Kendial Lawrence (So)
Marcus Murphy (Fr)
De'Vion Moore (Sr)
Henry Josey (So)
Kendial Lawrence (Jr)
Marcus Murphy (So)
Henry Josey (Jr)
Kendial Lawrence (Sr)
Marcus Murphy (Jr)
WR T.J. Moe (So)
Jerrell Jackson (Jr)
Wes Kemp (Jr)
Brandon Gerau (Jr)
Rolandis Woodland (So)
Gahn McGaffie (So)
Marcus Lucas (Fr)
T.J. Moe (Jr)
Jerrell Jackson (Sr)
Wes Kemp (Sr)
Brandon Gerau (Sr)
Rolandis Woodland (Jr)
Gahn McGaffie (Jr)
Marcus Lucas (So)
T.J. Moe (Sr)
Rolandis Woodland (Sr)
Gahn McGaffie (Sr)
Marcus Lucas (Jr)
TE Michael Egnew (Jr)
Andrew Jones (Jr)
Eric Waters (Fr)
Michael Egnew (Sr)
Andrew Jones (Sr)
Eric Waters (So)
Eric Waters (Jr)
OT Dan Hoch (Jr)
Elvis Fisher (Jr)
Jack Meiners (So)
Mark Hill (RSFr)
Dan Hoch (Sr)
Elvis Fisher (Sr)
Jack Meiners (Jr)
Mark Hill (So)
Jack Meiners (Sr)
Mark Hill (Jr)
OG Austin Wuebbels (Jr)
Jayson Palmgren (Jr)
Justin Britt (RSFr)
Kirk Lakebrink (Sr)
Austin Wuebbels (Sr)
Jayson Palmgren (Sr)
Justin Britt (So)
Justin Britt (Jr)
C Tim Barnes (Sr)
Travis Ruth (So)
Travis Ruth (Jr) Travis Ruth (Sr)
DEFENSE
DE Aldon Smith (Jr)
Jacquies Smith (Jr)
Brad Madison (So)
Michael Sam (RSFr)
Marcus Malbrough (So)
Brayden Burnett (RSFr)
Aldon Smith (Sr*)
Jacquies Smith (Sr)
Brad Madison (Jr)
Michael Sam (So)
Marcus Malbrough (Jr)
Brayden Burnett (So)
Brad Madison (Sr)
Michael Sam (Jr)
Marcus Malbrough (Sr)
Brayden Burnett (Jr)
DT Dominique Hamilton (Jr)
Terrell Resonno (Jr)
Jimmy Burge (So)
Brendan Donaldson (Jr)
Marvin Foster (RSFr)
Bart Coslet (Sr)
Dominique Hamilton (Sr)
Terrell Resonno (Sr)
Jimmy Burge (Jr)
Brendan Donaldson (Sr)
Marvin Foster (So)
Jimmy Burge (Sr)
Marvin Foster (Jr)
OLB Zaviar Gooden (So)
Andrew Gachkar (Sr)
Andrew Wilson (RSFr)
Josh Tatum (Jr)
Zaviar Gooden (Jr)
Andrew Wilson (So)
Josh Tatum (Sr)
Donovan Bonner! (So)
Zaviar Gooden (Sr)
Andrew Wilson (Jr)
Donovan Bonner (Jr)
MLB Will Ebner (Jr)
Luke Lambert (Sr)
Jeff Gettys (Sr)
Will Ebner (Sr)
CB Carl Gettis (Sr)
Kevin Rutland (Sr)
Kip Edwards (So)
E.J. Gaines (Fr)
Trey Hobson (Jr)
Robert Steeples (So)
Kip Edwards (Jr)
E.J. Gaines (So)
Trey Hobson (Sr)
Robert Steeples (Jr)
Kip Edwards (Sr)
E.J. Gaines (Jr)
Robert Steeples (Sr)
S Jarrell Harrison (Sr)
Kenji Jackson (Jr)
Jasper Simmons (Sr)
Tavon Bolden (RSFr)
Matt White (RSFr)
Kenji Jackson (Sr)
Tavon Bolden (So)
Matt White (So)
Tavon Bolden (Jr)
Matt White (Jr)
SPECIAL TEAMS
K Grant Ressel (Jr)
Trey Barrow (So)
Grant Ressel (Sr)
Trey Barrow (Jr)
Trey Barrow (Sr)
P Matt Grabner (Sr)
Trey Barrow (So)
Trey Barrow (Jr) Trey Barrow (Sr)
KR Marcus Murphy (Fr)
Wes Kemp (Jr)
Marcus Murphy (So)
Wes Kemp (Sr)
Marcus Murphy (Jr)
PR Carl Gettis (Sr)
Kip Edwards (So)
Marcus Murphy (Fr)
Kip Edwards (Jr)
Marcus Murphy (So)
Kip Edwards (Sr)
Marcus Murphy (Jr)

The (*) is obviously an acknowledgment that Gabbert and/or A. Smith could be gone after this coming April's draft.  But both positions have strong backups already (and in A. Smith's case, Mizzou already got a successful taste of life without him).

I realize I shouldn't be pointing this out right now, but Mizzou is only beginning to rack up the experience.  Nothing's saying 2011 or 2012 will be as good as 2010 has been thus far, but in terms of potential?  Yikes.

Summary

What more is there to say at this point?  Mizzou proved themselves in front of a national audience, Blaine Gabbert has grown by leaps and bounds, the defense lost another cog (Hamilton) but kept right on plugging ahead, and Mizzou is 7-0 for just the second time since the turn of the last century.

And now they've got an even bigger game coming up this Saturday at 2:30.

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I would assume

that this late in the year, Hamilton’s season is a wash and a medical redshirt is out of the question?

Finds MvP RoC to be a stellar individual

by Ausgiano on Oct 26, 2010 11:47 AM CDT reply actions  

It is mind-boggling to think

that we will only lose our Center from our offensive line, and all we’ll lose (to graduation) from our front 7 in Defense will be Gachkar (who.. I love the kid, but he isn’t a game-changer) and Lambert.

We’

by Andy--01 on Oct 26, 2010 11:55 AM CDT reply actions  

Uh... I read the BTBS Primer

(I mean, RE-read, yeah, re-read)

and I have no clue what SD/PD Sack rate is.

by Andy--01 on Oct 26, 2010 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Should have been a bunch of exclamation points…..sorry, it’s my first day!

by BenNX74205 on Oct 26, 2010 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's OK, you not-so-closeted DS9 fan

(my favorite Trek too, btw)

Elke ware zoon, zo blij van harte / Hemels boven ons zijn blauw / Er is een geest zo diep binnen ons / Oud Missouri dit is voor jou / Wanneer de band het Tijger oorlogslied speelt / En wanneer de strijd over is / We zullen stampen, stampen, stampen, rond de kolommen / Met een kreet voor oud Mizzou!

by Dutch Missourian on Oct 26, 2010 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Any chance

that we will get the detailed breakdown on the run and pass plays by “description” like the past few weeks? Interested to see where the success was, especially on the ground.

by BenNX74205 on Oct 26, 2010 12:03 PM CDT reply actions  

I'm going to guess...

…the middle.

"Smell the perfume but don't drink it because it might kill you." Erin Andrews recounting advise from Gary Pinkel

by Gaknar on Oct 26, 2010 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not soon...

…I haven’t had time to pursue the charting thing, so it’s fallen behind a bit.

by Bill C. on Oct 26, 2010 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Gooden

Wears the 25 well. Coaches made a great decision on giving that to him.

by asdtg2 on Oct 26, 2010 12:08 PM CDT reply actions  

it's not

but kickers start as walk-ons (normally…Henry was recruited). I think next year it’ll be the Lacross team’s turn to have someone stolen to come and kick.

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by Ausgiano on Oct 26, 2010 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

FUN FACT

Grant Ressel was a LB in high school

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by tigr on Oct 26, 2010 9:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Those 4th quarter stats are obscene.

Imagine if the D had picked up a safety on that last Oklahoma drive? Yikes.

I can’t wait to compare the end of season stats to the 2007 team. It’s hard to judge at this point which team is “better”, but it seems to that they have markedly different personalities and are achieving in noticeably different ways. I’m curious to see if the stats back that up or if it’s all in my head.

"Smell the perfume but don't drink it because it might kill you." Erin Andrews recounting advise from Gary Pinkel

by Gaknar on Oct 26, 2010 12:29 PM CDT reply actions  

if that safety occured?

Pretty sure the student section would have collapsed. that kinda of madness.

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by Ausgiano on Oct 26, 2010 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Great break down!

The 2nd and 3rd quarter running started to get me a little scared, then the 4th quarter happened. Wow.

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by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Oct 26, 2010 12:31 PM CDT reply actions  

I know we lose yet another all-american type center after this year,

but after re-watching the game, Travis Ruth played a ton of minutes at left guard, and did so very well. I know he hasn’t actually made a meaningful snap yet, but I think we could have yet another very good one on our hands.

by searchyourfeelingsyouknowittobetrue on Oct 26, 2010 12:34 PM CDT reply actions  

I move

that this is Mr. Ruth’s new nickname for RMN.

by Babbalynski on Oct 26, 2010 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

way better for a center than

butterfinger.

My, oh my, you sure know how to arrange things.
You set it up so well, so carefully.
Ain't it funny how your new life didn't change things.
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by threadkiller on Oct 26, 2010 7:08 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

For what its worth..

Gabe has been told by people around the program that Justin Britt will be the center next year.

Annoying You Since 1986

by MUTIGERS86 on Oct 26, 2010 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

My only complaint...

was I saw the first horrible center snap to shotgun in about…oh…5 years? Other than that, incredible execution, fantastic game.

I dunno man...hockey?

by majortool on Oct 26, 2010 12:50 PM CDT reply actions  

truly RIDICULOUS!!

You don't have to come and confess, we lookin' for you, we gon' find you, we gon' find you. So you can run and tell that, Homeboy.

by pinkelposse on Oct 26, 2010 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

also:

1. i am QUITE excited about our returning depth for next year, particularly if blaine and aldon stay, EXCEPT
2. quite concerned about the secondary.

by nycbirdo on Oct 26, 2010 1:05 PM CDT reply actions  

Secondary and D-line are the two key elements to a great pass defense

The better one is, the less great the other is required to be.

Take Nebraska for example, they have a mediocre defensive line (12 sacks through 7 games, allowing 4+ yards per carry), but a lights out secondary (2nd in the nation respectively in YPA, Passer Rating, and Completion percentage).

Next year our secondary is likely to take a small step backwards, but our d-line may go from great (my subjective opinion of this year’s line) to legendary.

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by BigMOman on Oct 26, 2010 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

It seemed...

…(especially during the first half) that the teams were pretty evenly matched, and the stats support that. Oklahoma still gets the edge on talent obviously, but it does seem that the overall talent gap has narrowed significantly over the past few years.

"Smell the perfume but don't drink it because it might kill you." Erin Andrews recounting advise from Gary Pinkel

by Gaknar on Oct 26, 2010 3:12 PM CDT reply actions  

Yes, it's true.

We won yet ANOTHER game with inferior talent. Who would have thought that? :)

by Cope on Oct 26, 2010 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

none of our players would start for ou.

You don't have to come and confess, we lookin' for you, we gon' find you, we gon' find you. So you can run and tell that, Homeboy.

by pinkelposse on Oct 26, 2010 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

haha

I actually wasn’t joking that time, but there you go.

"Smell the perfume but don't drink it because it might kill you." Erin Andrews recounting advise from Gary Pinkel

by Gaknar on Oct 26, 2010 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

2011 & 2012 Squad

We have a sick amount of talent next year & potentially the year after.

by Zoo Keeper on Oct 26, 2010 3:14 PM CDT reply actions  

Interesting to look at OU's two deep as well.

They are young also. Some great battles on the horizon.

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by nwtiger1 on Oct 26, 2010 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

I wanna say

they had at least three/four freshmen out there getting extensive playing time.

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by Ausgiano on Oct 26, 2010 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Millard, Stills, Wort, Finch and Colvin all played.

And are freshmen.

"Anderson won't make substitutions. He'll change lines - Tiller, Taylor and English hit the bench while Denmon, Dixon and Paul hop the boards. Welcome to Hockey Night in Columbia. He won't take time outs. He'll take on fuel and tires. Welcome to the Hardwood 400." - Atch

by nwtiger1 on Oct 26, 2010 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yep

And I have to say—every time one of their Freshman RB’s got loose in space, I yelled “oh crap!” If everyone develops as you’d expect, the 2012 edition of the Sooners (and maybe even the 2011 one) could be a sight to behold.

by Professor Chaos on Oct 26, 2010 8:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

That would be Finch.

He was the one they discussed having just a sick HS highlight tape. Barry Sandersesque.

"Anderson won't make substitutions. He'll change lines - Tiller, Taylor and English hit the bench while Denmon, Dixon and Paul hop the boards. Welcome to Hockey Night in Columbia. He won't take time outs. He'll take on fuel and tires. Welcome to the Hardwood 400." - Atch

by nwtiger1 on Oct 27, 2010 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

he may be around longer than luke recker was for cbb.

think of how much disrespect he’ll feel when the cafeteria lady asks him if he receives the senior citizen discount.

My, oh my, you sure know how to arrange things.
You set it up so well, so carefully.
Ain't it funny how your new life didn't change things.
You're still the same old girl you used to be.

by threadkiller on Oct 26, 2010 7:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hopefully, JFranklin will have progressed enough

that we can rely on him next year if:
Gabbert goes to the NFL after this season
OR
Gabbert stays and gets injured next season

That seems to have been the problem with the O in 2008. Insane talent, but if reports are to be believed, Chase was battling an arm problem all season. Obviously, a Freshman Gabbert was not ready to come in and take the reins, maybe a Sophomore Franklin will be, if needed.

by Andy--01 on Oct 26, 2010 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Heh, you're right

though to get him to stay another two years after this one…

by Mac6uffin on Oct 26, 2010 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

I really don't see him leaving after this year.

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by T3T on Oct 26, 2010 10:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Talent gap?

I kept looking for it throughout the game. I know we’re pre-conditioned to give OU the nod in terms of talent, but seriously. I really didn’t see any substantial talent gaps at all, and in many instances our units are flat out better.

You can cherry pick players to create the illusion you most prefer. (In other words, Jackson played than better Broyles but may not be better.) But still, OU by any measure is one of the 10 best programs in the nation and when I looked at each unit I never saw demonstrable differences in talent. I recognize that my eyes can deceive in a game SO hyped. Home field is the single biggest determinant of winning in college football. But beyond just the OU matchup MU has the athletes to step on the field and compete with anyone this season.

Looking unit by unit…

O-line? Nope. OU’s line set an absolutely impressive, break-neck pace early. But, once they burned through the scripted plays and the game slowed down it’s clear that they still have room for growth following last year’s injury-palooza. This is nothing like the line that blocked for Sam Bradford and All Day.

Backs? I give OU the nod, mostly because Finch gives the Jeremy Maclin “huh” take-your-breath-away feeling when he touches it. And, they don’t have to burn him out with Murray there. Murray gives them rarely duplicated versatility with big play ability. Mallard looks good in short yardage and blocking. Their top-end athleticism and the production in the passing game gives them the advantage, but we’re no slouches.

WRs? Bending over backwards to be fair to OU, I’ll say incomplete because of their injury situation. Having said that, for depth and explosiveness we looked flat out better overall. I’m just willing to grant OU some benefit of the doubt because a key contributor missed went out for the game that week. They could be as good, but almost no way they’ll be better.

D-Line? Hamilton’s injury brought OU back into the discussion. Prior to that, it is not even a discussion that MU is better. And next year we should get Hamilton back and add Shelden Richardson next year. The only way OU could add better talent is to clone Tommie Harris.

LBs? Somewhat surprisingly, this was a pretty clear-cut and substantial win for Mizzou. Our group is at least as athletic and far more versatile—good versus the run and in coverage. Keep in mind, Bonner hasn’t played a down. Darwin Ruise doesn’t play yet. Awesome depth. Moving on.

DBs. OU’s group has some real promise. As they get experience they’re going to be nasty. But our guys are better. Add to that, even though we’re not forced to play really young buys our young guys (e.g., Kip Edwards) get snaps.

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by dcrockett17 on Oct 26, 2010 4:53 PM CDT reply actions  

After watching the replay on TV and seeing things alot more up close

than I was able to in row 44 of the stands, I have to agree with you. If they would have just stuck to the swing passes and gave Finch the ball 25 times they might have been able to win that. We measured up very nicely and if its true that they have more talent, then we must have alot more heart.

by M Krip on Oct 26, 2010 11:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

I may not have been seeing clearly . . .

. . . but it certainly looked to me like the O-State defense looked a step or two slower than MU’s defensive players. I wonder how that might play out when Martinez starts trying to scramble – is it possible we will be able to contain him the same way Texas did?

by countrycal on Oct 26, 2010 5:00 PM CDT reply actions  

I hope this is ths case...

but I’m not going to lie, Taylor Martinez terrifies me. It is going to require gap-perfect, disciplined defense to keep Martinez in check. Last time we needed absolutely gap perfect run defense was the Texas Bowl. . .

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by Other Side of the Pillow on Oct 26, 2010 5:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ergh

Thanks for that bad memory.

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by tigers and chiefs fan on Oct 26, 2010 6:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Good players . . .

. . . learn best from experience, though, don’t they? We certainly had plenty of experience last December regarding staying in our lanes.

by countrycal on Oct 26, 2010 10:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

The defensive needs to go after and slam both the QB and the ball carrier.

Our line is strong enough that it should get penetration. They shouldn’t worry about trying to figure out who has the ball, just tackle anyone and everyone in the backfield.

by M Krip on Oct 26, 2010 11:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Example

Look at Iowa vs. Georgia Tech in that bowl game. The Hawkeyes absolutely destroyed the option there.

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by Ausgiano on Oct 27, 2010 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

Just want to say (and in light of Gabbert calling out CFB in the post-game interview with Fowler – “we will get your respect or we will take it”), the folks at Yahoo Sports didn’t see these stats because across the board they all are picking the Nubbies.

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by Kpz1234 on Oct 26, 2010 5:09 PM CDT reply actions  

Pretty much everyonoe is

Plus we are a six point dog.

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by tigers and chiefs fan on Oct 26, 2010 6:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm fine with that

I am perfectly willing to believe that Nebraska is as good as everyone thinks they are.

But, by that same logic, I have to assume that Missouri is good enough to win. We are capable of playing well enough to beat Nebraska – we did that this weekend. Nebraska MIGHT be capable of playing well enough to beat us, but they haven’t done it yet this season.

by Andy--01 on Oct 26, 2010 7:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

i heard something from a friend today that i hadn't thought of:

i (he) can see us blowing them out (the nubbers). can you see them blowing us out? it’s an interesting question. because i really can’t foresee a situation where they would take us behind the ‘shed. it’s possible, of course, but a lot less likely. at least in my insignificant opinion.

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by threadkiller on Oct 26, 2010 7:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

one way I see us getting blown out

Is if we go to heavy with the pass on our run/pass ratio. We should be able to grind out some drives on the ground against them. Even K-State did on their opening drive. They are small but fast and use only one or two true LB’s and play to suppress the passing game. If Gabbert is throwing too many sideline passes or throwing into disguised coverages, he may get picked multiple times and hand them great field position. If we fall behind and panic, Yost/Gabbert maybe even more inclined to throw into them.

We need to really give our run game a good effort first and foremost and let that set up our passing.

by M Krip on Oct 26, 2010 11:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm confident, but not over confident

I won’t predict a win because this is usually the point where the Football Gods kick Tiger Nation in the beanbag, but I like the leadup to this game. Since the SDSU scare, Mizzou has improved across the board each week against increasingly talented opposition. Even when a unit initially struggles like the O-line against A&M (or Colorado? Can’t remember) or the defensive secondary against Oklahoma, they’ve maintained their composure and made the necessary adjustments to win. Far from hung over, I see Mizzou entering this game with a lot of momentum.

As for Nebraska, there’s no doubt that they are a talented team and playing in Lincoln is always tough. I was curious to see how Martinez bounced back from the Texas loss and he certainly impressed me with his performance against oSu. That said, the last two weeks have exposed weaknesses on both sides of the ball. The offense is still prone to fumbles and drops and as good as Martinez is, he’s still going to play like a freshman from time to time. The defense, while still quite good, isn’t the same dominant force that it was with Suh. They are giving up a lot more yards both rushing and passing and the strategy they employed last year against Mizzou of rushing four and dropping everyone else back in coverage might not work against this year’s Mizzou O-line. And then of course there is that odd mental glitch that inexplicably makes Nebraska better on the road than at home. I still haven’t figured that one out. Anyway, I think it’s going to be a hard fought game and like the Oklahoma game, it’s going to come down to who executes better and who makes fewer mistakes.

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by Gaknar on Oct 26, 2010 7:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

fewer mistakes.

knock on wood but this will be the key to the game and thus far Mizzou has done better at it.

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by pinkelposse on Oct 26, 2010 8:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I really don't get that

If you’re really a championship caliber team, you’re expected to win all of the close games, even if they’re back-to-back. The goal posts are always being moved on Mizzou, and they aren’t even being carried to Harpo’s.

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by Gaknar on Oct 26, 2010 8:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

The goalposts are going to be

a lot more manageable if the Tigers can pull out a victory.

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by tigers and chiefs fan on Oct 26, 2010 9:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

No it won't

If we win, it’s because the Huskers are in a down year and we’ll have no chance in a rematch with Oklahoma.

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by Gaknar on Oct 26, 2010 11:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Corrected
If we win, it’s because the Huskers are in a down year decade

by Andy--01 on Oct 27, 2010 9:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

NU lost to Texas who lost to Iowa State

Therefore it’s just as good as beating ISU!

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by joker24 on Oct 27, 2010 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

.

I don’t like to bellyache about perception too much. I figure the players will sort all of that out on the field.
BUT…
I have noticed the last few days, sites are now predicting Nebraska to be the Big 12 champs. It implies both that we’ll lose this weekend and that OU isn’t good enough to beat the Huskers, which really seems like two ways of knocking us.
But, time will tell…

by ris-d on Oct 26, 2010 10:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

you're right

I had been holding out hope that should we finish 11-1 or 12-1 that we would get an at large BCS invite but with all the doubters out there, its not looking like much of a possibility even if we do end up ranked very high in the BCS as we were after the loss in the 07 CCG. Still though, its looking better and better than we have a chance to go 11-1 which is what I thought was the absolute ceiling on this season if we could go 3-1 in our tough stretch. The team still have to make sure they don’t slip up in Ames too.

by M Krip on Oct 26, 2010 11:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Note

Just for the sake of comparison…

2010 Mizzou WR Rec Pace (13games) Egnew 104, Moe 98, Kemp 50, Jackson 50.

2009 Total: Alexander 113, Perry 46, Jackson 37, Kemp 23 </strong

Our 4th reciever will have more catches than our #2 receiver last season – and Egnew will have only 9 shy of our receiver that is currently playing on Sundays.

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by tigr on Oct 26, 2010 9:11 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

The Nubs scored a lot of points . . .

. . . at Stillwater; but so did A&M. How well did the Aggies do against our defense? Nine points, at home. Flip the coin, and OkSt scored easily against the Aggies (at home), and even better against the Nubs. We scored 30 on the Aggies on the road, and should be able to do as well or better against the Nubs on the road . . . just thinking out loud.

by countrycal on Oct 26, 2010 10:22 PM CDT reply actions  

Nebraska easily scored 40+ on kstate on the road

Kstate beat iowa state on a neutral site, Iowa State whipped Texas in Austin. Therefore Nebraska v. Texas at home should be a walkover…

I kind of agree with you, and you have to take turnovers into account here as well (how ISU beat Texas), but you have to be really careful drawing conclusions from teams that aren’t common opponents.

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by BigMOman on Oct 26, 2010 10:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

sheesh, when will it end????
Nebraska has more overall talent than anyone in the division

http://espn.go.com/blog/big12/post/_/id/20091/tracking-the-conference-races-week-9

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by BigMOman on Oct 26, 2010 11:07 PM CDT reply actions  

in the division?

I guess that’s fitting because if they would have said the entire conference, they would have obviously been ignoring all the talent on the Aggies squad.

by M Krip on Oct 26, 2010 11:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

he also opinions that the winner in Lincoln is a 70 percent favorite to win the division

I think if that winner is Mizzou its much higher than that. Mizzou would have to lose three of its remaining 4 games to give it back to the Huskers which is far less than a 30 percent chance of that happening.

by M Krip on Oct 26, 2010 11:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

who does nebraska still have to play out of the south?

they’ve played texas and okstate. Is it Baylor? Because Baylor looks like the toughest of those 4.

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by pinkelposse on Oct 27, 2010 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

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