Video Breakdown: Are the Huskers vulnerable up the middle?
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Nebraska isn't lacking in defensive speed, and combined with the two-linebacker nickel system (called "Peso," just like the currency which coincidentally exchanges for close to a nickel) the Pelini brothers have adopted for 2010, the Husker defense is predicated on using that speed to beat blockers to the ball. In doing so, Nebraska really trusts its front six to make plays, as they gamble on using the extra man in the secondary to help slow the aerial attacks that litter the Big 12. Save for a breakdown here and there, it's been a worthwhile gamble for the Huskers, who are second in the conference in total defense.
But in reading the thoughts from several Husker sites around the web, there seems to be at least some small concern about the Huskers' susceptibility to the run up the middle. Kendall Hunter ran for 201 yards (7.7 per carry) last Saturday, most of them targeted between the tackles. So for the moment, the book on Nebraska is to run at them, not around them.
Let's look at one very specific example. (Disclaimer: SMALL SAMPLE SIZE ALERT)
First things first: You'd probably face better odds betting against a sellout at Memorial Stadium in Lincoln on Saturday than you would betting on Missouri coming out in the formation shown by the Pokes here. Oklahoma State comes out with the Pistol equivalent of the offset strong I-formation, with a wideout (Justin "Go Ahead And Try Not Comparing Me To Danario Alexander" Blackmon) right and stacked receivers left.
We can see Nebraska's base defense in this shot. The right end lines up in what appears to be a 5-technique, face up with the left tackle. Because of the angle, the defensive tackles are a little bit harder to gauge, but they're of slightly less interest here. The highlighted left end is the one of note, as he slides into what appears to be a 4-technique on the inside shoulder of the right tackle. I'm not sure whether this was a function of being to the weakside of the formation or the shortside of the field. Either way, you can tell Nebraska wants to watch the strongside and leave the weakside to the highlighted safety appearing at the top left of the screenshot above.
Oklahoma State mans up on the four defensive linemen, not requiring a double team to handle the Huskers' four down men. That leaves the two highlighed Cowboys (one lineman, one "second back" -- thou shalt not say "fullback") to handle the two remaining players (the linebackers) in the box. This is where Nebraska comes to miss that third linebacker.

Both second-level blocks are engaged, and the tackle turns the end outside. It's Kendall Hunter time. (//shudders remembering MU/OSU '08)
A last ditch-effort by the defensive tackle behind Hunter does nothing. Potential Big 12 defensive player of the year Lavonte David is tied up by the lineman at the first-down marker outside the right hashmark. The other backer (Will Compton) has gotten away from the second back and tries to get back into the play. Hunter's eyes are dead set on the safety between he and the endzone.
Yeah, Compton's not catching Hunter. Not helping matters is that one stutter step and cut leaves the safety kissing the first down marker.
Now the chase is on. Nebraska eventually catches up to Hunter, but not before he's 28 yards downfield.

Nebraska trusts its players and trusts its scheme -- serious, serious trust. On this particular play, Nebraska faces 3rd-and-3 against one of the Big 12's premier tailbacks and dares Oklahoma State to run by putting only six in the box. Nebraska's defense has the speed (especially with the way Lavonte David has been playing) to match teams sideline-to-sideline, which could mean trouble for Missouri's "Josey to the sideline" play. But if this one small example can provide hope, it is this: Missouri controlled the line of scrimmage against Oklahoma, and was extremely effective running the ball up the middle, thanks in large part to Missouri's ability to pull linemen into holes to block at the second level.
The spread offense has been and will always be a numbers game. If Nebraska leaves six in the box, they're daring Missouri to test them up the gut. Is Mizzou ready for a repeat performance or a rude awakening on the ground?
Note: Nebraska fans, please help me out with the analysis here. Is the question about Nebraska's inside run defense valid? Your input would definitely be a big help as we prepare for Saturday.
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I'm reminded...
Of a Vermeil Chiefs-Ravens game a few years ago. The Ravens had ungodly sideline-to-sideline speed from their linebackers while the Chiefs had a fantastic run game. The Chiefs negated the Ravens’ speed by constantly putting fullback (ahem) Tony Richardson or Will Shields (I refuse to believe he was a Cornhusker) in Ray Lewis’ face on every play. With their speed advantage negated, the Ravens were pushed around all day.
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there is definately a hole opened up
but the d-tackle is a half second from tripping him up and Will Compton is a half step from stopping him for a nominal game. Kendial Hunter is a big time back. It will be interesting to see if our guys will be able to hit the hole that explosively, make a decision and go. I don’t know much about OSU’s offensive line, how does it compare to ours?
Bill, do you have Line Yard rankings on OSU to answer this question?
As for the tackle and Compton, I hate to pull clichés straight out of Any Given Sunday, but this part of the speech applies:
Because in either game – life or football – the margin for error is so small. I mean, one half a step too late or too early and you don’t quite make it. One half second too slow, too fast and you don’t quite catch it. The inches we need are everywhere around us.
Ryan Broyles was an inch from a two-point conversion. OU defenders were a half-second from blowing up De’Vion Moore on several occasions. At this level of football, a half-second may be all you get.
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by RPT on Oct 29, 2010 9:43 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Absolutely agree
I’m just curious if that half-second will be in Mizzou’s favor or if Kendial Hunter is the reason it broke. Great analysis as always, just curious.
We'll all be curious to see, no doubt.
And hopefully the answer to your question above is that MU’s line outperforms OSU’s, which still had a very strong performance against the NU D-Line last week.
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I come here for answers!
I want a full statistical analysis of my question. First, figure out if the half-second is actually .33 or .56 or any other increment of time. Then, break down ever single play ever run by either team frame by frame and determine if the increments favor or disfavor us. If you don’t, I’ll stop paying for this site.
Everyone is sending money to get access to this site right?
Here you go...
Adj. Line Yards (i.e. Run Blocking) Ranks
Oklahoma State: 7th
Missouri: 29th
Adj. Line Yards on Standard Downs
Oklahoma State: 2nd
Missouri: 40th
That’s probably not what you were looking to see, huh?
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You can be sure . . .
. . . Yost and Pinkel know of this disparity . . . maybe Oklahoma was just a “tryout” for the extra lineman for when we meet Nebraska :-)
Guess it’s just time for the OL to step up and venture into even greater heights of efficiency.
9 LINEMAN SET
Go.
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by Other Side of the Pillow on Oct 29, 2010 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions
Ithink we should try the Tennessee 13 lineman set
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NUMBERS LIE !
/no they don’t
/dang
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by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Oct 29, 2010 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions
"There are
three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics."
by Babbalynski on Oct 29, 2010 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions
I suppose we could see a lot of Egnew lining up tight
and/or coming in motion, or the 6th lineman at times as well. I am guessing too we will see some of the twin RB set to further swing the numbers in our favor.
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I was wondering about this as well.
or the 6th lineman at times as well
I am very dumb about football. In theory, how would the 6th lineman formation compare to the way the blocks fall out of the I-formation?
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by Other Side of the Pillow on Oct 29, 2010 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions
I can't speak with any authority...
But it seems like the sixth lineman should act like a tight end, but instead, it often appears like the sixth man acts as another de facto tackle allowing another lineman (usually a guard) to pull into the hole like a blocking back.
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Without even reading the post
The answer to the title is yes. Or, to be more specific: YES.
After reading the post: Yeah, you found in a single play the microcosm of Nebraska’s run defense issues, especially against Oklahoma St. (It was also probably the worst single up-the-middle run play defensively for Nebraska in that game, so maybe a bit of a cherry-picked play selection, but your point is still valid.)
You nailed all of the problems in defending up the middle generally all year, but particularly against Oklahoma St.: The D-line can’t get off blocks, making it easy for opposing blockers to start on the second level. And once they’re there, Nebraska’s not built for the run at all.
I should note that against Texas, Nebraska was able to get to the ballcarriers pretty quickly, but they just blew straight-on, easy tackles over and over. Most of the time, it was the safeties blowing these tackles. Nebraska’s safeties might often be positioned as linebackers, but they sure don’t tackle like linebackers, and it shows on those runs up the middle.
Yeah, we can't stop the run.
It seems like our defense is good at clamping down once the opponent gets to the red zone. But before that, a run up the middle is an almost guaranteed 4-6 yards this season. I miss Mr. Suh. You think he could come back and help us for this game?
I've got to wonder...
… is that compressed space in the red zone allowing the speed of the defense to come in handy by indirectly pushing guys closer to the box?
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Yeah, I think that's a lot of it
The Pelinis’ defense is built first and foremost to take away the big play. When the deep-pass possibility is out the window (and Nebraska trusts its corners to go one-on-one on end-zone fade routes), the safeties are free to defend the shorter routes/run plays. One very big less thing to worry about.
by Cheeseandcorn on Oct 29, 2010 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions
Thanks for the insight.
Looking forward to tomorrow.
by nycbirdo on Oct 29, 2010 10:30 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I think whether or not we are susceptible to the run
has alot more to do with the talent of the back. Kendall Hunter flat out made people miss tackles, and I think that had a lot more to do with how talented he is than how un-talented we are..if that makes sense. In this def scheme they put a lot of pressure on 1-on-1 tackling, so if you have a back that is capable of making that one guy miss, then yes we’re very susceptible to the run…I think that’s more or less what you’re saying when you say Nebraska has serious trust in it’s scheme…
In other news, this game has given me a 4 day migraine so what I just said may or may not be gibberish.
I wonder about matching personnel to scheme this year for NU.
Suh was a blocky, shorter DT able to use his low center of gravity and monstrous strength to control the interior of the defense without giving up position. Jared Crick and Baker Steinkuhler are both taller and lankier than Suh, which would seem to favor a more penetrating style of play. Our DTs have been moved out of position pretty regularly this year. When you add in the loss of Philip Dillard, Sean Fisher and, until last week, Will Compton, you see we’ve been playing with only one or two “true” LBs most of the season. I’ve seen Alfonso Dennard and Eric Hagg lining up at LB quite often, and while they’re incredible defensive talents, they just don’t have the size to play that position in running situations.
Frankly, I’m very concerned about this aspect of our defense. It shows that Bo and Carl can get too into their scheme and not pay enough attention to what’s not working.
A far larger concern for me, though, is tackling. At the beginning of the season we were gang-tackling: flying to the ball and wrapping up, trusting teammates to come clean up the play. Lately, and especially in the Texas game, guys have been going for knockout tackles and missing completely (I’m looking right at you, Ricky Thenarse). Crisp, team tackling is another fundamental for the Pelini system, and if we don’t get it right against you Saturday, we’re in trouble.
Good analysis – looking forward to the game. Care to ask some of the trolls over at our place to lay off a bit?
"...when the devil says to you: do not drink, answer him: I will drink, and right freely, just because you tell me not to."
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It is unfortunate
to see the same Mizzou commenters embarrass themselves week after week at different sites. Even more unfortunate, it wouldn’t do any good to point it out to them, even if you’re one of their own.
"I'm a genius, but I'm a misunderstood genius."
"What's misunderstood about you?"
"Nobody thinks I'm a genius."
by Transmogrified Tiger on Oct 29, 2010 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions 7 recs
Rec'd.
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I should clarify...
I don’t think Mizzou fans have been disrespectful on other boards. I’m just not a subscriber to the mindset to evangelize abroad and try to convince the stubborn. To each his own.
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Especially considering the tone of many too
I mean, if that’s people’s cup of tea, I don’t mean to say “DON’T YOU DARE GO OVER THERE”, but sometimes I’m not sure what people expect. They probably won’t be as respectful to Mizzou as you like, and any sort of dismissive or absolutist statements are bound to irritate you. And any dismissive or absolutist statements on your part(even if they aren’t necessarily intended that way) pretty much end your chance of being taking seriously or having a good discussion. You wouldn’t go over to another person’s house and tell them why their furniture isn’t quite as good as yours, and the same logic applies. Nebraska fans don’t want to hear about things that their team has no chance of doing, you have a much better shot if you try and find the key points that will decide the game one way or another, and add factual information where you can(aka Jerrell Jackson doesn’t run bubble screens, Gabbert only runs as a last option, etc).
JMO of course, but I think that’s the best course of action and reflects the best on us as Mizzou fans.
"I'm a genius, but I'm a misunderstood genius."
"What's misunderstood about you?"
"Nobody thinks I'm a genius."
by Transmogrified Tiger on Oct 29, 2010 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions
individual attempts to reflect well on a fanbase
are pretty meaningless almost all the time. It’s not like staying away from Husker boards is going to change the opinion of even one Husker fan about Tiger fans.
It's not about attempting to reflect well
It’s acting in a way that it’s a side effect.
"I'm a genius, but I'm a misunderstood genius."
"What's misunderstood about you?"
"Nobody thinks I'm a genius."
by Transmogrified Tiger on Oct 29, 2010 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions
If you're not doing it to reflect well on Mizzou fans.
then do it because its the right thing to do.
You don't have to come and confess, we lookin' for you, we gon' find you, we gon' find you. So you can run and tell that, Homeboy.
by pinkelposse on Oct 29, 2010 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
what's the right thing to do?
not post on another team’s board? really, we’re sure about that?
some people taking teh internetz way too seriously here. is this a movement to replace the Huskers as the greatest fans of all time?
YES
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by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Oct 29, 2010 7:17 PM CDT up reply actions
and No
Dr. Ausgiano schools me in the classroom and on the field of battle
by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Oct 29, 2010 7:17 PM CDT up reply actions
well I'm sorry, but I disagree
and frankly it’s ridiculous that anyone, especially of all a bunch of Tiger fans, are making this big a deal out of it.
I'm not really trying to make a big deal about it.
I just think consciously angering people is rarely a good decision.
You don't have to come and confess, we lookin' for you, we gon' find you, we gon' find you. So you can run and tell that, Homeboy.
by pinkelposse on Oct 29, 2010 10:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Sure we can disagree..
we are still Tiger fans. It’s all good.
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by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Oct 30, 2010 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions
If only we could control what happened beyond the bounds of RMN...
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I am afraid...
That I might be one of the trolls being talked about, but maybe not. Do I visit other sites? Check. Do I argue with other teams’ fans? Check. Am I disrespectful? I don’t think so, I never get booted, never call names, never make fun, and always attempt to add real ideas to threads. But maybe I am a troll, although I’ve never been called one. I suppose there is a line out there between “trolling” and “discussing,” but I’m not sure I know where it is. I think I used to border on trolling at RCT but that was quite some time ago. Oh well, if you’re not being disrespectful, what’s the harm? If being argumentative is trolling, I’m guilty.
I guess I just don't see the fun in what you've been doing, frankly.
Disagreement is fine, especially when it’s a game that’s as hard to pick as this one is. But after a while I get tired of arguing what can’t be decided online. So, I don’t think I’d necessarily call what you were doing trolling, but I haven’t enjoyed reading the posts as much. There have been others who are much, much worse.
And, for the record, we’ve got plenty of our own, I guess. Folks from Burnt Orange Nation were none too happy about the pregame trolls over there, from what I heard.
"...when the devil says to you: do not drink, answer him: I will drink, and right freely, just because you tell me not to."
— Martin Luther
trolling is intent
if you’re going to an opposing fansite to anger people, you’re trolling. if you’re going to discuss football and it gets a bit heated, that’s disagreement between passionate people.
Point taken
but sometimes passionate discussion comes across as “pissing in my cheerios.”
especially in weeks like this.
We as a fanbase (and NU fans) like to dwell in our own little corner where we can delude ourselves with our own preconceived notions in relative peace. To be corrected by a “well-meaning” and “passionate” fan of the other team can be an unwelcome occurance.
Sometimes keeping a polite distance is more important than “Being Right.”
- my 2 cents
The sleeper has awoken. . .awakened. . .he woke up.
by SleepyFloyd7 on Oct 29, 2010 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions 7 recs
This.
What we may think is a factual discussion, an NU fan may see as inflammatory. The difference in perspective is why I find it more pleasant to just read other boards rather than correct what I feel is incorrect.
Take the Eric Martin suspension. Half the folks saw a punishment that fit the crime and others saw no foul whatsoever. I doubt anyone on the internet convinced someone of the opposite viewpoint.
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FWIW, part 2
I’ve had a shitty week, so it’s entirely possible I’m suffering from an inflamed sensitivity gland. I’m liking the tone of this particular thread a lot better – maybe it’s Friday kicking in?
"...when the devil says to you: do not drink, answer him: I will drink, and right freely, just because you tell me not to."
— Martin Luther
No, I gottacha
I do continue to hammer on ideas even when they’re not being accepted, like a dog with a bone. I refuse to admit that I’m not gonna change someone’s mind even though I know they can’t change mine. The exchange of ideas and passion is fun, but eventually the taste in people’s mouths likely begins to sour.
Good luck on Saturday, I hope you lose!
for what it's worth
I’ve had no problem with your commentary on CN, I like differing points of view.
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I just wanted to say, really good MU/NU analysis! Now I know why CornNation folks are so giddy about RMN’s analysis, you don’t have any. Man, we have it good.
by mpfische on Oct 29, 2010 8:17 AM CDT reply
This. This is not being disrespectful? Never make fun? Look at your history. You spend most time on other sites and not your own. This leads me to believe you are being a troll and not just argumentative. I came over and told the makers of RMN that they do a great job and their analysis is very good and you basically take it back to CornNation and throw it in their (our) faces.
Okay...
That comment was teasing, but I see how it could have irritated you. That said, that comment was one of about twenty I made on CornNation so I think you’re cherry picking to make a point. My stats also disprove your statement about where I spend my time, but I nevertheless apologize for this comment and your impression.
corn is an overrated vegetable.
You don't have to come and confess, we lookin' for you, we gon' find you, we gon' find you. So you can run and tell that, Homeboy.
touche.
You don't have to come and confess, we lookin' for you, we gon' find you, we gon' find you. So you can run and tell that, Homeboy.
Yes.
Note: Nebraska fans, please help me out with the analysis here. Is the question about Nebraska’s inside run defense valid? Your input would definitely be a big help as we prepare for Saturday.
It’s been of very big concern all year long. Nebraska has been gambling between shutting down the passing attack or plugging the middle with undersized (though fast) line backers all season.
Should be an interesting Saturday, to say the least.
I absoluetly love this series RPT.
Thanks to all the NU fans coming on here as well.
Here’s to hoping that this game delivers the potential that it has.
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by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Oct 29, 2010 11:41 AM CDT reply actions
let's be honest
I’d be ok with a boring old 20 point MU win. but a close game would be my next favorite.
hopefully it's one for the ages
scratch that, hopefully we win by 70, but if we don’t, hopefully it’s one for the ages :)
51-24 baby!
I’m still insane! Mu-hahahaha!! (running around in circles and smacking into a wall)
by HuskerINtheArmy on Oct 29, 2010 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions
You think NU
will actually get 24 points? ;)
by Babbalynski on Oct 29, 2010 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Zing
Whoever said, 'It's not whether you win or lose that counts,' probably lost.
Martina Navratilova
by tigers and chiefs fan on Oct 29, 2010 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions
You're right
After coming to my senses, I’ve switched the prediction around. 51-24 Nebraska win. ;)
by HuskerINtheArmy on Oct 29, 2010 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions
I know Mizzou will never recoup a generation's worth of losses
BUT WE ARE AT LEAST OWED ONE KICKED BALL BEFORE WE LEAVE MEMORIAL STADIUM TOMORROW!
Husker fans, please have it ready (in the North endzone) by approximately 6pm.
The sleeper has awoken. . .awakened. . .he woke up.
Ha
We thought the cosmos (or COTG?) owed us a win over Texas this year, but no. Sometimes, that’s the way football go.
by Cheeseandcorn on Oct 29, 2010 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions
No, no
it doesn’t. We got shafted by the cosmos again. Some magnetic force in Lincoln shifted our attention from the football hitting our hands to the fat girls in the stands (Mike Leach plug).
by HuskerINtheArmy on Oct 29, 2010 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh no you don't
You get your grubby paws off of COTG, he’s been smiting us for far too long to let you in on what he giveth and taketh away.
"I'm a genius, but I'm a misunderstood genius."
"What's misunderstood about you?"
"Nobody thinks I'm a genius."
by Transmogrified Tiger on Oct 29, 2010 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions
COTG is an equal-opportunity smiter.
I submit to you Psalm 14:2-3:
The LORD looked down from heaven upon thechildren of menteams of college football, to see if there were any that did understand, and seek God. They are all gone aside, they are all together become filthy: there is none that doeth good, no, not one.
by Cheeseandcorn on Oct 29, 2010 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions
It's on the other side of Pinkel's "Go for 2" card
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by The Beef on Oct 29, 2010 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
One side: "YES!"
Other side: “YES!”
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by RPT on Oct 29, 2010 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions 5 recs
It's apparently calculated using Fake Field Goal units
"I'm a genius, but I'm a misunderstood genius."
"What's misunderstood about you?"
"Nobody thinks I'm a genius."
by Transmogrified Tiger on Oct 29, 2010 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Love the video analyses!
Also great to see such a civil discussion between the two fanbases here. If only that could carry over elsewhere.
Aside from my emotional angst over tomorrow’s game, it presents such an interesting contrast with the Oklahoma game – Nebraska matches up so differently with us than OU did. So success against OU doesn’t promise success against the Huskers. It’ll be fascinating to see how it plays out.
And OU presented a different matchup from A&M
Who presented a different matchup from Colorado. Each week, Mizzou has shown an ability to gameplan their specific opponent and haven’t become trapped in a one-dimensional style of play. Carl Pelini has his work cut out for him this week in gameplanning Mizzou because they’re willing to do everything.
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