Mizzou Links, 10-8-10
by Bill C. on Oct 8, 2010 6:01 AM CDT
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First things first: MUtigers.com put out St. Louis TV Information for MU-CU. Figured some people might want to see that.
- KBIA Sports Extra: VIDEO: Gary Pinkel, James Franklin and Mizzou's stability at quarterback
KBIA Sports Extra: VIDEO: Gary Pinkel on Missouri's improvement in its secondary - ESPN.com: Missouri adjusting to loss of starting RB
- KC Star: Gabbert to Moe continues to make Mizzou go
- The Trib: Tigers lineman Brad Madison is wreaking havoc
- PowerMizzou: Tiger Mailbag!!
Below is a large quote from the mailbag, but it's the best answer I've ever seen Gabe give, and it was worth sharing. Hopefully Gabe doesn't mind the large copy-paste -- there's plenty more in the article that isn't copy-pasted. And though most of you already know this, the whole "Pinkel can't turn the corner!" meme drives me absolutely batty. Mizzou was No. 1 in the country less than three years ago.Gary Pinkel has done a great job overall of making Mizzou a consistant winner year in and year out. Do you think he ever considers the question, "is what we are doing good enough to win the Big 12? A National Championship?" "What else can we do?" I ask this because year in and year out we are pretty good but nothing changes to become great.
I'm going to do the best I can to answer this without being a smart aleck unnecessarily. But do you honestly think there is a day that goes by in Gary Pinkel's life where he DOESN'T consider those questions? Honestly? I don't. The simple fact is this: In 119 years of playing football, Missouri has had a legitimate shot to win a national championship probably three times (1960, 1969 and 2007). One of those was under Pinkel. That's a good success rate. ... The goals at Missouri (realistically) should be these:
Going into the season, a bowl game is a foregone conclusion. Check.
Every year, win eight or nine games. Check.
Every few seasons, break through and win double digits. Check.
Every once in a while, when the stars align and you get some breaks, put yourself in position to play for a national championship.
Pinkel attained that final goal once. He may do so again and he may not. That's about as good as anybody in the country outside of the truly elite. The BCS national title game has existed since 1998. In the 12 years it has been played, a total of 12 teams have appeared in the game. Five teams have made it once (Tennessee, Virginia Tech, Nebraska, Miami and Alabama). The Tide very well may get back. It's not out of the question Nebraska could. The other three will not. In 1998, Tennessee beat #23 Mississippi State in the SEC championship game. That's the equivalent of Missouri facing Texas Tech in the Big XII title game in 2007, which the Tigers didn't have the good fortune to do. The Hokies didn't have a league championship game in 1999, nor did Miami in 2002. Nebraska didn't even WIN ITS DIVISION the year it played for the title. So what did those coaches do that Pinkel didn't? Got an extra break.
The other 19 spots in the BCS title game have been claimed by Texas, Oklahoma, Ohio State, Florida, USC, LSU and Florida State. Over the course of the last 40 years, those are seven of the top ten programs in college football by any measure.
My point is, it's just not easy to get there. And it's virtually IMPOSSIBLE to get there anywhere other than the seven schools in the paragraph above, plus Michigan, Nebraska, Penn State and Notre Dame. Look up the history. Outside of those 11 teams, exactly five schools have even SHARED a national championship in the last 26 seasons. - Colorado Links
The Trib (Dave Matter): Writer's Block: Colorado
The Missourian: Colorado looks to overcome Missouri, road game drought
Fox Sports MW: Preview: Missouri vs Colorado
Examiner.com: New-look Buffaloes visit Tigers this Saturday - CUbuffs.com: '90 Buffs 'Took The Fifth,' Went On Their Way
Plus, a bonus link. Mizzou commit Wesley Leftwich is a receiver with speed to burn ... and apparently a ridiculously strong-legged kicker. Very entertaining combination to me.
Nebraska Rips Kansas State
- Topeka Capital-Journal: Martinez, Huskers pound Cats
Topeka Capital-Journal: Cats' D bends, and breaks - Omaha World-Herald: Martinez, Huskers top Kansas State 48-13
Omaha World-Herald: NU had no doubt it'd stop Thomas - KC Star: Martinez, Huskers run over K-State
KC Star: A running quarterback at Nebraska -- what a concept - Bring On The Cats: What Did We Learn? Where Do We Go Now?
- Dr. Saturday: Big 12 defenses, Taylor Martinez is here for your dignity
- Pre-Snap Read: First Wildcats, Then Longhorns
- Topeka Capital-Journal: Bishop enjoys K-State return
Big 12 Links
- Post-Dispatch: Big 12's football farewell will be memorable
- Baylor-Tech
Double-T Nation: Defensive Matchups | Texas Tech D vs Baylor O - Kansas
Rock Chalk Talk: Jayhawks vs The Opponents Through 5 Games - Oklahoma
Tulsa World: OU's Trent Ratterree is the quintessential team player (RATTERREE!!!!!!1!!)
Daily Oklahoman: James Hanna could be what OU passing game was missing - Oklahoma State
Tulsa World: Undefeated OSU prepares for big test in first road game this season - Texas A&M
Dallas Morning News: Texas A&M tackle: We're partially to blame for Jerrod Johnson's struggles
Mizzou Basketball Links
- PowerMizzou: Tigers will host top ten talent
Wanna see Rivals.com's No. 9 player, Jarnell Stokes, in action at Mizzou Arena? If the gym is open for their 'open scrimmage,' then go check him out. It's long been assumed that Stokes was bound for Memphis, but needless to say, his "If I had to commit right now, it wouldn't be Memphis. I'm not sure,maybe Missouri or Tennessee," quote was just a bit encouraging. Stokes is a 6'7, 230-pound beast ... he would be a very welcome addition to the Class of 2012 (he's a junior now), to say the least. - ESPN.com (College Basketball Blog): Mizzou latest to crack down on Twitter (in case you missed it in Fanshots)
- The Trib (Steve Walentik): Counting down the Top 25 (The almosts)
Other Mizzou Links
- Mizzou Volleyball
MUtigers.com: Tigers Set to Face Oklahoma - Mizzou Soccer
The Missourian: Coaching job keeps former MU soccer player involved in sport
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Leftwich seems to be the Arrelius Benn of High School.
Lots of hype and measurables, not a lot of production. (But you could have said the same about Gabbert so I’m not going to judge)
Annoying You Since 1986
What We Learned From Last Night
1. As we expected entering the season, the North is a 2 team race. And Nebraska is a heavy favorite. With Snyder K St may be able to over achieve, but their complete lack of speed on defense, and absense of anything remotely decent on offense besides Thomas.
2. If we want to win the North, we HAVE to beat Nebraska. Last night I may have had a bit of an impulse reaction, but face it. Nebraska is a very good football team. Martinez might have a game or two when he has a case of the freshmans (See South Dakota St), but i don’t see any way the Huskers lose 2 other games this year. If we don’t win in Lincoln, even if we some how win the rest of our games, we will not win the north.
3. We need Aldon to be fully healthy by the time we travel there. I don’t think Aldon will be quite as effective as he was against Illinois, because Martinez seems a lot quicker/faster than NS, but without him, it will be tough.
4. Some team is going to stuff 8 men in the box against Nebraska, play press coverage on the recievers, and drop a safety 10-15 yards off the line of scrimmage and force Martinez to throw. It’s clear that Bo does not like him to pass unless he absolutely has to. And I think somebody needs to make him do it. He very well may hit some of those passes, but will he hit enough to beat a team with a good offense? Hopefully we’ll find out.
5. If Mizzou isn’t careful, we might get absolutly embarrassed in Lincoln . Now Mizzou is a much better team than K St, and every other team they have played, and quite possibly the best team left on Nebraska’s schedule. But if you don’t think Lincoln will be going nuts (even more so than usual) for the final game against a Missouri team who embarrassed them on national tv two years in a row, including the last time we played there, you are crazy. I assure you Bo remembers the fake field goal here in 2007, and the 40 yard deep pass from Chase to Danario up 40 points in Lincoln there. If Mizzou does not show up ready to play, and Martinez has a game like he did last night, do not expect Bo to take his foot off the pedal (especially since there is no worry of us doing it back in the future), and Nebraska could very well beat us by 40-50 points. Now this is a worst case scenario, but it really is possible.
Annoying You Since 1986
On second thought, he wasn't the coach in 2007,
So he might not remember the fake field goal. But Still. Some of the players will.
Annoying You Since 1986
You trying to steal my thunder here???
I had a “5 thoughts about NU-KSU” bit built into the links post, but it got long enough that I scheduled it to run as a standalone post at 9.
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Don't worry...
Your thoughts are usually much more fact based and thought out (and frankly better) than mine. Unless you had the same 5 thoughts. In which case, I need to get some royalties out of this.
Annoying You Since 1986
Dammit, I'll have to re-write then.
Kidding.
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My thoughts....
1. Pelini is the anti-pinkel, what classless ass-clown. Calling a timeout to rush your defense on the field to stop a dignity touchdown when up 40 pts in the fourth.
2. I disagree that we could get beat by anywhere near 5 touchdowns. To start off, if it is clear in Columbia last year and Gabbert doesn’t get hurt we win that game. The teams haven’t changed that much. Is Nebraska better of offense? Obviously, but I think we’re significantly better on defense. KState got stomped because they have the worst lateral speed on defense imaginable, we on the other hand have tremendous speed on defense.
3. Pinkel should play up the lack of respect card…ESPN gave Nebraska the big 12 north after one game…it wasn’t even an issue of question…it was like Nebraska was going to be playing five more kstates.
4. I think Missouri is good enough, and Martinez is bas enough that we could get away with 8 in the box.
5. Pelini is a bad person.
I still don't get the "if its clear in columbia last year we win"
The 4th quarter was when the rain let up. How did that go for us again?
Maybe if Gabbert doesn’t get hurt we do win, but thats part of the game. If you don’t want your qb to get hurt, don’t let there defense lineman hang out in our backfield the entire game. I’m not saying we will lose by 5 touchdowns. Just that if Martinez were to break off a couple of quick long TD’s, and Mizzou’s offense doesn’t click right awway (Both of which are decent possiblities), our guys could kind of shut down and it could get ugly. Fast.
Annoying You Since 1986
So you're saying that if we give up a couple early TDs and don't score
then there’s a chance we could get blown out? That’s pretty common sense, and opponent-independent.
The part about getting to the QB is the big thing for me. Nebraska was able have so much success defensively last year because they didn’t have to blitz at all to get a QB running for his life the entire game. That does not seem to be the case at all this year(Crick will pick up where Suh left off! Nonsense). Instead of staring at 7 defenders covering the field for 3 seconds before Suh dropkicks him, he’s going to either have 7 defenders covering with plenty of time to throw, or 5-6 defenders out there. It’s an enormous difference.
"I'm a genius, but I'm a misunderstood genius."
"What's misunderstood about you?"
"Nobody thinks I'm a genius."
by Transmogrified Tiger on Oct 8, 2010 9:06 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm saying that after last night..
The chance they score a couple early td’s seems more likely.
Annoying You Since 1986
if it would have KEPT raining,
I think we win that game.
KSU wasn’t very good, IMO, in the first place. I think they clearly didn’t play particularly well (nor did Snyder justify his legendary status- why run C. Coffman?), either.
Martinez certainly is a big play threat, but I still don’t feel terribly threatened by the zone read. He looks B. Smith-like when running, but that uber-slow release looks questionable to me. And the guy is a freshman- let’s see what happens when he gets pressed a bit more.
A bad FCS team did smother Martinez quite effectively. I wonder if SDSU was just very assignment sound- I seriously doubt they were sporting more speed than KSU.
I think the two big takeaways from last night were
K-State – exactly who we thought they were going into the season. Mediocre defense, and zero ability to move the ball against a good defense. They have more losses coming their way this season, several of them.
Like was said, losing in Lincoln is no longer even a slim option if we want to win the North. Partly because despite K-State’s flaws, they had one of the best shots to give Nebraska a loss, and partly because Nebraska has cemented their ability to actually have an offense.
The upside: Mizzou has not had huge issues defending spread QBs that are run-first. Think of Juice, think of Scheelhaase, think of Kaepernick. Also, Nebraska needed blitzers to get to Coffman in the passing game. I think the answer to the question of “how much of the lack of offense in last year’s Mizzou/NU game was the rain/Suh/Nebraska’s overall talent/Gabbert not good” seems to be more of the former two than it was before the season, if that makes any sense.
"I'm a genius, but I'm a misunderstood genius."
"What's misunderstood about you?"
"Nobody thinks I'm a genius."
by Transmogrified Tiger on Oct 8, 2010 7:34 AM CDT reply actions
one issue with NU offense
i didn’t watch much of the game last night, but what I saw looked like the Nubs are running the 1987 Ver read offense that I ran in middle school. And the O-line was behaving rather competently in doing so. That could hurt us, but cause to properly defend a Ver, you need to be able to push through the block, and not necessarily go around it (which is how you kill the run and shoot we run).
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I think the best chance of beating NU is for a player to roll up on Martinez's ankle much like Suh did to Gabbert.
I am not saying do it intentionally or that was Suh’s mission but if the opportunity presents itself much like it did for Suh against Gabbert and you have to sit down on the kid’s leg while bending him over to the ground, then make that tackle.
I do...
…hope for karama to rain down upon them.
Swingin' my grammar like the hammer of the mighty Thor.
"karama"
not pointing out any ineptitude (people here have seen plenty of my own). i just laughed out loud when i read your signature. maybe you did that on purpose. regardless, thank you. it’s been a long work week.
My, oh my, you sure know how to arrange things.
You set it up so well, so carefully.
Ain't it funny how your new life didn't change things.
You're still the same old girl you used to be.
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