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Mizzou Links, 11-5-10

New Commit!

Well, the commits continue to trickle in.  Everybody welcome the latest Missouri commitment, Copperas Cove (TX) linebacker Brandon Durant!  Durant (6'1, 205) was a UTEP commit and fits the "complete darkhorse from Texas who was once committed to a CUSA school" role that strangely seems to thrive at Mizzou (hello, SPOOOOOOON).  He is the 14th known commitment -- unless some people quit the team, we're probably looking at no more than 3-4 more spots.  And it's early November.

Mizzou-Texas Tech Links

Other Mizzou Football Links

Big 12 Links

  • Baylor at Oklahoma State
    SB Nation: No. 19 Oklahoma State Vs. No. 22 Baylor
    Daily Oklahoman: OSU, Baylor deserve to get paid like the big boys

    Under the conference's revenue-distribution system, teams are rewarded for TV appearances. Including this weekend's games which are headlined by Baylor at OSU in a showdown for South Division supremacy, the Cowboys rank seventh in TV revenue while the Bears are tied for last.

    The team in first place?

    Texas with $2,725,000.

    OSU and Baylor together haven't earned that much so far this season.

    How is that fair? I'm all for profit-sharing that rewards teams, but where is the just reward for OSU and Baylor? They have scratched and clawed for years. They have improved their programs and upgraded their talent. They have become November contenders.

    But when it comes to TV revenue, they still find themselves at the bottom.

    It's a flaw in the system, a hitch that is hurting teams that deserve better.

    THANK you, somebody, for writing this.  This is the problem with unequal distribution.  It's not a reward for success, it's a reward for institutionalized success and program prowess.  If Texas went 6-6 for four straight seasons (call me crazy, but, uh, that probably won't happen), they would still be among the top two or three in television revenue, not because they are earning it in the present tense, but because they are Texas.  That's why you just distribute the money equally and call it a day.
  • Oklahoma at Texas A&M
    Dallas Morning News: Oklahoma at A&M: What you need to know
    Dallas Morning News: Ryan Broyles had role model as OU's go-to-receiver
    Crimson & Cream Machine: Ryan Broyles - Is It Possible To Have A Breakout Season When You've Been Spectacular For Two Years Already?
  • Nebraska at Iowa State
    Lincoln Journal-Star: Three keys vs. Iowa State (I'll give you one guess what Key #1 is)
    Omaha World-Herald: Cyclone running back shown improvement lately
  • Texas at Kansas State
    Dallas Morning News: Texas at Kansas State: What you need to know
    Dallas Morning News: Bill Snyder: 'Texas is better than its record'
    KC Star: Carson Coffman is architect of his fate
    Austin American-Statesman: Even Mack Brown isn't immune to the dreaded down year
  • Colorado at Kansas
    Rock Chalk Talk: Colorado v. Kansas Q&A With The Ralphie Report
    Ralphie Report: Colorado v. Kansas Q&A, Discussion With Rock Chalk Talk
    Topeka Capital-Journal: KU trying to ruin seasons
    Topeka Capital-Journal: KU should stay conservative

BASKETBALL!!!!1!

Other Mizzou Links

  • Mizzou Volleyball
    MUtigers.com: Tigers Take Win Streak to Iowa State
    MUtigers.com: Volleyball Sets 4 p.m. Start For Texas
  • Mizzou Wrestling
    MUtigers.com: Thursdays with Todd (Schavrien)

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The Mellinger article is so frustrating.

College basketball rules in KC? The premise is just so dumb.

When the Chiefs are 5-2 & the Tigers are 7-1? He even goes on to say that all three of the local KC school are mediocre in football? Hmph!

Go Tigers!

Whoever said, 'It's not whether you win or lose that counts,' probably lost.
Martina Navratilova

by tigers and chiefs fan on Nov 5, 2010 6:16 AM CDT reply actions  

good morning, fellow early riser!

bill, i was just curious as to how long it takes you to put the morning links segment together each morning. i really appreciate them and know first hand that early mornings stink. so, thank you even though i may only read one or two each day.

My, oh my, you sure know how to arrange things.
You set it up so well, so carefully.
Ain't it funny how your new life didn't change things.
You're still the same old girl you used to be.

by threadkiller on Nov 5, 2010 6:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

Early Bird Gets the Links

Bill just makes sure he gets up in time before all the good links have been taken.

Annoying You Since 1986

by MUTIGERS86 on Nov 5, 2010 6:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

good to be the second mouse, eh?

My, oh my, you sure know how to arrange things.
You set it up so well, so carefully.
Ain't it funny how your new life didn't change things.
You're still the same old girl you used to be.

by threadkiller on Nov 5, 2010 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Young children will do it to you every time.

Whoever said, 'It's not whether you win or lose that counts,' probably lost.
Martina Navratilova

by tigers and chiefs fan on Nov 5, 2010 7:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

that sounds plural.

i feel for ya. only one for me.

My, oh my, you sure know how to arrange things.
You set it up so well, so carefully.
Ain't it funny how your new life didn't change things.
You're still the same old girl you used to be.

by threadkiller on Nov 5, 2010 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's typically in the neighborhood of 25-30 minutes, I think.

Sometimes 15, sometimes 45 if I get rolling with quotes or commentary.

During MIZZOUEXPANSIONAPALOOZA, it was probably about an hour a day. God I hated June.

by Bill C. on Nov 5, 2010 8:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

well, thanks again. it's my first stop every morning.

well, second. (bathroom, of course.)

My, oh my, you sure know how to arrange things.
You set it up so well, so carefully.
Ain't it funny how your new life didn't change things.
You're still the same old girl you used to be.

by threadkiller on Nov 5, 2010 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

To be fair, he doesn't exactly say that

Although he doesn’t exactly not say it—“collectively mediocre” is a weird phrase. I guess he means that if you added together the records of MU, KSU, and KU, you get a fairly mediocre record. Which is kind of a dumb way of analyzing it.

To me, KC isn’t a college b-ball city so much as just a college sports city. I’ve lived in or near three other big cities before moving to KC a couple years ago (St. Louis, New York, Philly), and I feel like most cities are invested above all else in pro sports, and only really pay attention to college sports if the local team is doing veeeeery well (the only time I ever noticed NYC getting invested in college sports was Rutgers jumped into the top 10 in 2006), or on the few days a year when there is a massively nationally important game taking place. But in KC, you really do feel the intensity of the college rivalries. Some of it is you just see shirts and school flags and bumper stickers everywhere; some of it is talk radio; and some of it is that it just seems like college sports is a way more reliable conversation starter here than it is in other big cities. Obviously, this has to do with the fact that the city is near three big universities but not really owned by any of them, and it probably also has to do with the fact that its only a two-big-league-team town, and in the case of the Royals, that’s stretching the definition of big league.

by Professor Chaos on Nov 5, 2010 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

Part of that...

…is because the Chiefs and Royals have been down in recent years. In the 70’s and 80’s when the Royals-Yankees rivalry was hot, KC was very much a baseball town. In the 90’s and early 2000’s when the Chiefs were dominant, Arrowhead was the center of the KC sports world. Now that Mizzou and Kansas are both competent in their respective sports, the college rivals are back in vogue.

"Smell the perfume but don't drink it because it might kill you." Erin Andrews recounting advise from Gary Pinkel

by Gaknar on Nov 5, 2010 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

Equal revenue sharing

If only someone had argued over the years the value of equal revenue sharing, some school maybe. I also find it interesting that the Daily Oklahoman puts the blame on Texas.

"Smell the perfume but don't drink it because it might kill you." Erin Andrews recounting advise from Gary Pinkel

by Gaknar on Nov 5, 2010 7:18 AM CDT reply actions  

Put the blame on everyone!

When the Big 8 agreed to take Texas, Texas A&M, Anne Richard’s alma mater, and Texas Tech, they messed up right there. Historically the best programs to take would have been Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Christian, and Southern Methodist, religion aside. You are about to see the Pac-10/12 do the same thing by ignoring BYU for Colorado. Now, don’t get me wrong – Colorado probably doesn’t “belong” culture-wise in the B12 – but I think the MWC should have been their new home in favor of BYU. Of course, we could have kept Colorado around and dumped Iowa State. Don’t be fooled by Paul Rhoads, ISU is terrible and always will be.

What I don’t understand is that the Big 8 should have been in the position of negotiating power, and when you’re agreeing to take the remains of a failed conference, you should be able to dictate the terms. So whomever was in charge of the Big 8 prior to the merger, and every AD at a Big 8 school gets a fat raspberry for not doing their job correctly. But there are Nebraska fans who will tell you their school voted for equal profit sharing. I just don’t understand how Texas pulled it off back then!?

I’d also like to interject some blame to the University of Missouri admin at the time, who were in the middle of about 20 years of poor decision making concerning the football program. You suck.

"When among evil companions, try to fit in." - Wild Bill Donovan

by Kpz1234 on Nov 5, 2010 7:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

What's nice about blaming the MU administration at the time

Is that it just means we’re blaming OU’s athletic director (again). Fun!

by MU'97 on Nov 5, 2010 8:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

Regardless

If oSu or anyone else is looking for solidarity on this issue, good luck.

"Smell the perfume but don't drink it because it might kill you." Erin Andrews recounting advise from Gary Pinkel

by Gaknar on Nov 5, 2010 9:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

I thought that during EXPANSIONPALOSA, that Bill had put up an old link...

…which was just prior to the merger that was one of the higher ups in Missouri administration warning that this was going to be a bad idea. (ie Texas)

But maybe I’m mistaken.

Dr. Ausgiano schools me in the classroom and on the field of battle

by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Nov 5, 2010 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

on this-

‘But there are Nebraska fans who will tell you their school voted for equal profit sharing.’

NU fans will tell you many things…

It is very amusing that Nub suddenly became proponents of equal revenue sharing 2 minutes after the B10 took them. They were right there with UT and OU in wanting more for the ‘important programs’ at the formation of the B12.

by tigertiger on Nov 5, 2010 8:15 AM CDT reply actions  

Let's not go there.

The trolls finally seem to have wandered off. I’d rather not get another influx of “11-1 votes!” again.

"Smell the perfume but don't drink it because it might kill you." Erin Andrews recounting advise from Gary Pinkel

by Gaknar on Nov 5, 2010 8:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

As a Husker Fan,

I can tell you that NU did in fact vote to have unequal profit for TV. Because it was perceived at the time to certainly work in our favor. The other voting like location of CCG was a different story. GAKNAR! I couldn’t resist!

by JimmytheRed on Nov 5, 2010 9:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

* shakes fist *

"Smell the perfume but don't drink it because it might kill you." Erin Andrews recounting advise from Gary Pinkel

by Gaknar on Nov 5, 2010 9:33 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

your honesty is admirable

kudos to you, sir.

Everybody should do what is in their best interest, just annoying when folks try to clothe decisions that are (rightly) completely self-interested as something they were forced to do, or something that is good for everyone.

Yes, I am still annoyed with Mr. Perlman’s take on things. :)

by tigertiger on Nov 5, 2010 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

Perlman

could have done it differently. I didn’t agree with naming names. It certainly wasn’t prudent or bright in my opinion. I personally believe that he was trying to set records straight as to how things happened instead of letting the cloak and dagger vibe get going. He still could have accomplished this goal without throwing fingers in certain directions. Good luck, Tigers. Get the 11-1 season and see what happens. You just never know.

by JimmytheRed on Nov 5, 2010 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

I continued to be most shocked about...

… the fact that my HS alma mater is producing a Div I QB recruit. And winning games. Not much of either when I was there.

Bet me!

by TigerBartender on Nov 5, 2010 9:55 AM CDT reply actions  

LSHS?

Shocking, isn’t it?

"Smell the perfume but don't drink it because it might kill you." Erin Andrews recounting advise from Gary Pinkel

by Gaknar on Nov 5, 2010 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

Surprised there isn't more talk about the announcer pairings

Knight and Musberger again. God help us all.

But it looks like King Ron and Fran will be together again. Time to dust off the Fran Fraschilla drinking game?

by shaffe on Nov 5, 2010 10:12 AM CDT reply actions  

can we expect...

…an updated set of rules relevant to the new season? The Zaire rule obviously isn’t applicable this season.

by aseidt on Nov 5, 2010 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

They have to happen organically.

The other rules still apply (especially #10), so we’ll see if we still need that one. (Though to be fair, he might still mention Zaire.)

by Bill C. on Nov 5, 2010 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

Player specific rules should be granted a 1 year post-graduation extension

After that they should fall off (could you imagine a JYD or Leo reference during this season?).

We’ll have to start out with the basic rules and adjust as he does more games. Though perhaps we can add a super-drink clause if he ever mentions the drinking game on-air. Something like finish your drink, pour another one, and finish that.

by shaffe on Nov 5, 2010 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

May I interject.

I agree with the 1 year post-graduation extension. However as the year of mentioned player graduation increases I would propose an increase in the number of drinks associated with it.

What if JYD is mentioned two years from now? That should be one hefty sip.

Dr. Ausgiano schools me in the classroom and on the field of battle

by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Nov 5, 2010 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

Still very proud of that post...

…and still heartbroken that he didn’t do another Mizzou game after that post. Looks like we might finally get an opportunity this year…

by Bill C. on Nov 5, 2010 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

how early do they announce who is announcing a game?

I will need to know if I need to clear my schedule for the following day.

by aseidt on Nov 5, 2010 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

anybody know anything about the durant kid?

Rivals has him listed at 6-0, 180. A far cry from 6-1 205. If his measurables are the former would we maybe want him for safety?

Anybody know anything about this recruiting class in general?

by rockthenation on Nov 5, 2010 11:02 AM CDT via mobile reply actions  

The 6'0, 180 listing...

…probably came a year or more ago, when he was potentially first entered into the database. I assume 6’1, 205 says more about where he is now.

by Bill C. on Nov 5, 2010 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Is he hungry like a wolf?

"Smell the perfume but don't drink it because it might kill you." Erin Andrews recounting advise from Gary Pinkel

by Gaknar on Nov 5, 2010 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

i like, but

/eyerollnonetheless

My, oh my, you sure know how to arrange things.
You set it up so well, so carefully.
Ain't it funny how your new life didn't change things.
You're still the same old girl you used to be.

by threadkiller on Nov 5, 2010 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

So This is Mizzou's payout so far...

Illinois was on FSN (cable x 2) [350k]
CU was on FSN (cable x 1) [175k]
A&M was on FSN (cable x 1) [175k]
OU was on ABC (air x 1) [300k]
Neb was on ABC (air x 1) [300k]
Tech is on ABC (air x 1) [300k]
K-State is on FSN (cable x 1) [175k]
Iowa State?
Kansas on FSN (cable x 1) [175k]

and its about 175K for cable and 300k for over-air channels. So that is a total of $ 1.95 Million this year, so far

by thoran85 on Nov 5, 2010 1:05 PM CDT reply actions  

Big 12 operates on 12-day window.

We should know about the television situation for MU/ISU on Monday.

by RPT on Nov 5, 2010 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why does Illinois count twice?

"Smell the perfume but don't drink it because it might kill you." Erin Andrews recounting advise from Gary Pinkel

by Gaknar on Nov 5, 2010 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

That is a point about revenue sharing...

…that I’ve been considering for a long time. Too much was made during Expansionpalooza 2010 (hope I spelled that right) about on-field success. It was easy to dismiss people who said “Boise State or TCU should get into a major conference because they’re good.” Those people didn’t recognize that TV sets, not on-field success, was driving conference realignment. To some extent, the two are correlated, but not always.

Anyway, now that expansion is somewhat on the back burner, we can get back to talking about one of the real problems with unequal revenue sharing. I know I wrote in the wake of realignment that having unequal revenue sharing provides each school an incentive to improve their programs, the theory being that the better your team is, the more often they’ll be on TV. That’s true to some extent (witness KU last year), but only to an extent. Schools like K-State, Iowa State, Oklahoma State, Baylor, KU and possibly Texas Tech can achieve some TV revenue gains through improving their programs, but Texas, Texas A&M and Oklahoma will always be at the top. The Big 12 revenue distribution agreement recognizes the reality of TV appearances. Whether that’s “fair” or not is an interesting discussion.

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by TB on Nov 5, 2010 4:43 PM CDT reply actions  

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