Egnew named 1st Team AP All American
The tradition of tremendous tight-ends continues.
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Isn’t there some rule about getting in the ring of honor? First team AA? Or was that basketball and jersey retirements?
You have to win the heisman
I kinda wish they would lower the requirements
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You don't have to win the Heisman . . .
but you do have to win an individual national award (like, say, the Mosi Tatupu National Special Teams Player of the Year award).
I’d like to end the practice of retiring numbers and instead simply have some sort of wall of fame that is reserved for all-America players.
by Michael Atchison on Dec 14, 2010 3:17 PM CST up reply actions
If they wanted to retire a number
for some all-time great like if we got a Tebow or something, I wouldn’t mind.
But there aren’t enough numbers to go around for just national awards.
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Isn’t there something like this in the training building. I seem to recall on wall right outside the weight room paintings of all the football All-Americans.
They changed it a few years back (unless they changed it back)
A few years after Brock had his number retired for wining the Mosi Tatupu National Special Teams Player Of The Year Award, they changed it to the Heisman or equivalent for your sport (Naismith, for example).
It’s stupid for quite a few reasons, but them’s the rules. Unless, as I said, they changed it back.
As of May 99, Matter confirms this
In a BTS Mailbox Article
● Q: What Tiger do you think is next in line to have his number retired and added to the ring of honor? How does this process work? Is there any official requirements (i.e. out of school x # of years)? I am sure it’s not long before folks start talking about Chase Daniel, Chase Coffman, Martin Rucker, etc but in my humble opinion we should be retiring Brad Smith’s number first and soon. Brad rewrote the record books at Mizzou and put the Mizzou program back on the map. Thoughts? Any rumors/insight? — Jeff
A: Jeff, the answer is very easy. None.
At or around 2006 the prerequisites for retiring a Missouri athlete’s number were changed, and for football purposes, the candidate must win the Heisman Trophy. Bottom line: No Heisman, no retired number. Lofty standard, no doubt, but retiring numbers is not a common practice in college football, at least not as common as Missouri made it before the new provisions were put in place. Missouri has more retired numbers (seven) than every team in the Big 12 and the same number as USC. At one point in time, MU got drunk on retiring numbers and for now on doesn’t want to be known as the school with the nation’s lowest standard for what should be the highest individual honor a school can give a former player.
Here’s what the school’s policy states: "A uniform number may be considered for retirement when a student-athlete has earned a bachelor’s degree from MU; is of unquestioned good character, reputation, and integrity; has represented the University well by displaying the highest degree of sportsmanship; last participated as a member of the MU sports team more than five years prior to the number retirement; and has achieved one of the following: 1. Wins the Heisman Trophy in the sport of football, or 2. Is elected as the National Player of the Year in the sport of men’s or women’s basketball, baseball, soccer, softball, or women’s volleyball."
Given the rationale for retiring a number
I’m actually okay with it being win the Heisman.
Because otherwise, I can think of several numbers that would have to go away from the last eight years given the production of players at those positions.
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My only problem with it is what has become the criteria for the Heisman
It pretty much guarantees that no one other than a QB or RB will ever have his number retired.
I DO think that there needs to be some pretty strict requirements on the retirement of numbers. A program should only retire a once-in-a-lifetime player, but to say that Mizzou should have zero players with retired numbers in any sport is a little harsh. Surely Norm Stewart deserves to have his number retired, but he never won the National Player of the Year award.
That's my main issue.
What if Aldon Smith were three times better than he actually is? What if he ended up as a unanimous choice for the best defensive end of all-time? Like, Lawrence Taylor squared? He still wouldn’t win the Heisman, therefore he still wouldn’t get his name on the wall … and that’s annoying. I’m all for high standards, but I don’t like saying “Heisman or nothing.”
I disagree on the retiring of numbers
and I think I might have misread that retired number = wall of honor.
Because if the wall of honor means your number is retired, then yes, having to win a Heisman is a piss-poor rationale.
I don’t think numbers should be “retired” per se, but I think you can honor people w/o retiring the number. And if that is the case, then the criterion is uber restrictive.
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only in RARE circumstances should a number be retired in any sport (criteria should basically be: did the player in question make such an impact that you can’t imagine giving someone else the number), but that doesn’t mean there aren’t special players who deserve a lasting acknowledgement for what they did for the team.
i know i'm picking nits here,
but taylor was a linebacker. reggie white, maybe?
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by threadkiller on Dec 15, 2010 12:52 PM CST up reply actions
meh.
we can use decimals someday. or fractions.
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by threadkiller on Dec 14, 2010 7:41 PM CST up reply actions
I'm really surprised that eggo got as much press as he did.
but i guess im just pessimistic like that
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Great
Wonderful news for Egnew and Missouri. Out of curiosity, is there any evidence that Missouri tight-ends will be less likely to get recognition in the future if they don’t start performing in the NFL? It seems like people could argue that Rucker and Coffman are proof that Missouri’s absurd tight-end numbers are simply a result of the system rather than talent. After all our two previous AA tight-ends can’t play at the next level because they’re unable to block and aren’t fast enough to be outside. Will we continue to get TE recognition or will this issue have a negative impact?
I would hope not.
It’s a college award. Look at the number of Heisman winners that flame out in the NFL. I don’t think anyone could argue (credibly at least) that it indicates a lack of talent.
They arent NFL tight ends...
they are big WRs in the Mizzou system
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by jack.nowland on Dec 14, 2010 5:40 PM CST up reply actions
This issue won't have negative impact
because it’s not a recognition for the “player with the most NFL potential at his position who also happens to kick ass in the college game.”
It’s recognition for the best at their position in the college game. And given that the standard, even for traditional in-line tight ends, is usually based on production and value to the team, I think we’ll be okay.
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for one, I think Chase's issue
is in part Marvin Lewis. I don’t have any inside knowledge, of course, but I have no clue what that organization is thinking. I find it hard to believe ANYBODY with hands that good can’t at least get a sniff. They need to either release him or do something with him- every year he is still there is another year pissed away.
I think the guy is a terrible coach- I have no clue why that organization continues to give him more chances. Results have been baaaad both on and off the field.
And seriously, look at the Jets to see whether really good MU players can have a real impact at the next level. Brad wasn’t used much, either, until they kept getting beat over the head that good things happen when this guy gets the ball….
Did anyone notice...
Michigan’s Denard Robinson made 3rd team AA as an all-purpose player. WTF? He only played QB right?
I wasn’t crazy about the freshman all-purpose kid at Florida, but damn. At least he was an actual all-purpose player.
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