Study Hall: Mizzou vs ATM -- Streaks Always End
Your ATM trifecta: English-Bowers-Safford. Your winner: nobody. So I guess nemotiger still has bragging rights. Actually, this shows that the trifecta idea is a fun one -- in three games, we've had only one winner. It's harder than you think it's going to be! And apparently, so is winning 33 straight games at home. It was too tough for Mizzou to manage.
Texas A&M 77, Missouri 74
| Mizzou |
ATM | |
| Points Per Minute |
1.85 | 1.93 |
| Points Per Possession (PPP) |
1.03 | 1.07 |
| Points Per Shot (PPS) |
1.23 | 1.54 |
| 2-PT FG% | 50.0% | 50.0% |
| 3-PT FG% | 32.1% | 60.0% |
| FT% | 71.4% | 52.8% |
| True Shooting % | 53.4% | 58.5% |
| Mizzou | ATM | |
| Assists | 12 | 12 |
| Steals | 15 | 7 |
| Turnovers | 12 | 21 |
| Ball Control Index (BCI) (Assists + Steals) / TO |
2.25 | 0.90 |
| Mizzou | ATM | |
| Expected Offensive Rebounds | 13 | 12 |
| Offensive Rebounds | 9 | 16 |
| Difference | -4 | +4 |
Streaks End.
Not sure there is a lot to say about this one, all things considered. (But that won't stop me!) A lot of Mizzou's known weaknesses bit them -- they shot 32.1% from 3-point range, they were outrebounded by 8 in terms of expected rebounds (I believe that's the second-worst performance of the season on the boards, behind the Big Monday game in Lawrence), and despite dominating the BCI battle like a Mike Anderson team needs to do, those shortcomings were murder. And a 32-game home winning streak is damn hard to maintain, especially if you're only a good team and not a great one. These things happen, especially against teams (like ATM) that match up very well with Mizzou, and the Aggies have done well the whole time Mike Anderson has been there.
Of course, for those who watched the game, that does not come close to telling the whole story.
Here's what I said in the Tuesday preview:
If ATM wins ... it will play out similar to the Mizzou-OU game from a couple of weeks ago. Mizzou can't get shots to fall, and ATM utilizes their physical half-court offense to control the pace of the game. Mizzou can still win if this happens, but it still favors ATM. Mizzou's FG% is low, and ATM's FTs are high. ATM wins, 72-66.
Mizzou shot a respectable but not great 41.4% (we've seen worse from this team), but ATM shot 15 more free throws than Missouri. After playing exactly the pace they wanted to play at the beginning of the second half, Mizzou let their foot off the accelerator, and ATM shifted the game to their pace, making Mizzou work on both offense and defense, not allowing them to run, and dominating. It was the...
Worst. 13 Minutes. Ever.
With 14:36 left, Kim English made a 3-pointer to put Mizzou up, 52-41. The first 5.5 minutes of the second half had been J.T. Tiller's best of the season. Mizzou was wreaking havoc on defense, getting steals and easy buckets, crashing the boards, making 3-pointers ... it was all clicking. And then everything changed.
It started slowly. Khris Middleton made a 3 for the Aggies, but after Justin Safford missed a short shot, Laurence Bowers grabbed the offensive rebound and swung the ball out to Zaire Taylor for 3. This is how Mizzou applies the dagger. Steve Moore's offensive rebound led to a 3-pointer for Taylor that gave Mizzou the momentum they needed against Oklahoma State, and they went on to roll. When Taylor's shot was in the air, I thought to myself, "If this goes in, it's over." But it didn't go in. ATM missed a shot on the other end, but Donald Sloan stole the ball from J.T. Tiller, leading to a layup. 52-46. Marcus Denmon made a 3 to put Mizzou up 9 again, and ATM missed another jumper. Another opportunity for Mizzou to symbolically put the game away. But Denmon -- the guy I trust more than anybody but Taylor -- missed a jumper, and it was 55-46 heading into the 12:00 timeout. ATM was barely any closer, but they had avoided the death blow.
And then Mizzou's backups came in. This is typical -- it's the middle of the second half, and it's time for Mizzou's second five to soften up the opponent so the first-stringers can finish them off. It's how Mizzou works. Donald Sloan committed a charge, then another foul on the other end. Miguel Paul was running the point, and Steve Moore flashed WIDE FREAKING OPEN in the paint. Time to find fan-favorite Moore for a thunder dunk and put this one away. Only ... Paul either didn't see him or didn't care. Instead, MP3 launched a horrifying pull-up 3-pointer that was both short and a foot to the left. It barely hit the left region of the backboard. Then, after three seconds of great defense double-teaming David Loubeau, Paul got too aggressive and committed a silly foul. There were 10 minutes left, and it was still 55-46, but thanks (in part) to Paul, not only had Mizzou missed another opportunity to nail the casket closed, but now they had no momentum whatsoever.
And then ATM rose from the dead.
I can't tell you how impressed I was by ATM from the 10:00 mark until the final frantic minute. Loubeau and Bryan Davis swallowed Mizzou's forwards whole, not allowing them any opportunity to get the ball in the post. Meanwhile, ATM's guards did not allow any penetration lanes whatsoever. Mizzou was swinging the ball around the perimeter like they need to do, only they had no way to attack, and they started taking panicked runners and mid-range jumpers with 15 seconds left on the shot clock (one drawback of playing the fast-paced system we play: our guys' internal clocks aren't set to 35 seconds; it was pretty clear with the shots they were taking that they thought the shot clock must be expiring, and it wasn't). And on offense, it seemed the better defense Mizzou played, the better ATM executed, making KILLER 3-pointers, making tough post shots, and when they missed those post shots, they savaged the offensive glass. It was Mizzou's fault that ATM got a chance at life again, but ATM deserves an infinite amount of credit for how they played when they got that second chance.
And that dunk by one-time Mizzou recruit Ray Turner over Kim English. SICK. That wasn't Katzenmoyer-hitting-Corby sick, but it was close to the basketball equivalent.
When all was said and done, here was the carnage.
From the 14:36 mark of the second half to the 1:26 mark, a span of 13:10, ATM outscored Mizzou 28-8. Mizzou was 3-for-15 from the field (1-for-7 on 2-pointers, 2-for-8 on 3-pointers, 3-for-6 from the line), while ATM shot 10-for-17 (7-for-14 on 2-pointers, 3-for-3 on 3-pointers, 5-for-10 from the line). ATM grabbed seven offensive rebounds, while Mizzou grabbed six TOTAL rebounds. Laurence Bowers had three of those rebounds, meaning that for 13 minutes in the second half, Mizzou players not named Laurence Bowers grabbed 3 rebounds. Total rebounding margin: 21-6. ATM played great defense, made clutch shots, and hustled the balls off of Mizzou. Again, Mizzou deserves blame for this, but do not forget to give ATM an insane amount of credit. Their point guard is out, their other point guard (Dash Harris) got dinged up, their backcourt was seemingly overmatched, and they played an almost flawless nine minutes, starting at the 10:00 mark.
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Sadly, when you look at this 13-minute span, you start to realize just how much Mizzou dominated the other 27 minutes of the game. They started slow in the first half, but here are the stats from the other 27 minutes:
Mizzou 66, ATM 49
MU: 15-for-25 2PT, 7-for-20 3PT, 12-for-15 FG
ATM: 13-for-26 2PT, 3-for-7 3PT, 14-for-26 FT
MU: 8 Off. Reb., 12 Def. Reb., 20 TOTAL REBOUNDS
ATM: 9 Off. Reb., 14 Def. Reb., 23 TOTAL REBOUNDS
But when you drop the dagger against a good team, you can lose, even at home, where you never lose. They even showed some killer instinct, especially with the "Bowers with the offensive board, swing it to Zaire" play. Only, the shot didn't go in, and Mizzou lost their balance.
Mizzou Player Stats
| Player | AdjGS* | GmSc/Min | Line |
| Kim English | 18.0 | 0.67 | 27 Min, 15 Pts (5-for-11 FG, 2-for-5 3PT), 5 Reb, 3 Ast, 2 Stl |
| Laurence Bowers | 14.9 | 0.68 | 22 Min, 11 Pts (4-for-7 FG, 1-for-2 3PT), 10 Reb (5 Off), 2 Ast, 2 TO |
| Justin Safford | 14.5 | 0.61 | 24 Min, 12 Pts (4-for-8 FG, 2-for-3 3PT), 3 Stl, 1 Reb |
| J.T. Tiller | 8.1 | 0.31 | 26 Min, 12 Pts (6-for-13 FG, 0-for-4 3PT), 2 Reb (2 Off), 3 Stl, 2 TO |
| Marcus Denmon | 6.4 | 0.34 | 19 Min, 9 Pts (2-for-6 FG, 2-for-5 3PT) |
| Steve Moore | 3.5 | 0.50 | 7 Min, 2 Pts (0-for-0 FG) |
| Zaire Taylor | 3.3 | 0.10 | 33 Min, 8 Pts (2-for-8 FG, 1-for-5 3PT), 4 Reb, 3 Ast, 3 TO |
| Keith Ramsey | 3.2 | 0.13 | 24 Min, 0 Pts (0-for-1 FG), 3 Stl, 2 Ast, 2 Blk, 1 Reb |
| Mike Dixon | 3.1 | 0.24 | 13 Min, 5 Pts (2-for-4 FG, 1-for-2 3PT), 2 Stl |
| Miguel Paul | -2.4 | -0.48 | 5 Min, 0 Pts (0-for-2 FG) |
* AdjGS = a take-off of the Game Score metric (definition here) accepted by a lot of basketball stat nerds. It takes points, assists, rebounds (offensive & defensive), steals, blocks, turnovers and fouls into account to determine an individual's "score" for a given game. The "adjustment" in Adjusted Game Score is simply matching the total game scores to the total points scored in the game, thereby redistributing the game's points scored to those who had the biggest impact on the game itself, instead of just how many balls a player put through a basket.
- Odd game from Safford. He showed a lovely shooting touch, especially from long range (and it's hard to overstate the effect a hot-shooting Safford had on this offense last March). But he and Ramsey were just eaten alive on the boards by Loubeau and Davis, who combined for 10 offensive rebounds. He was so ineffective on the glass, especially during ATM's 13-minute run, that it completely negated any positive effect he had. Mizzou players not named Laurence Bowers grabbed just 14 rebounds all game long, and Safford/Ramsey combined for two. TWO. And while Stevie Moore seemed to put in some nice minutes as well, he only had 1 rebound in 7 minutes, meaning Safford, Ramsey and Moore combined for 3 rebounds in 55 minutes. That's a pathetic total for a point guard, much less three of your four top big men. Absolutely unacceptable.
I enjoy how much the students love Moore, and he really is starting to figure out how to contribute better, but it just doesn't matter unless he starts to get dramatically better on the glass. That's why he's in there. I still wish we'd have gotten John Underwood some more minutes in the non-conference season. He's an offensive black hole, but he showed in limited minutes to be potentially the best rebounder on the team (albeit in a small sample size), and if you can't get the ball back from your opponents without giving up three offensive rebounds in a possession, then it doesn't matter how you are on the offensive end (and in Ramsey's case, he was non-existent on that end too). - I love J.T. Tiller, and I always will, but I'd be willing to say that he has pretty much been the worst shooter among all major-conference guards in the country this year, particularly in conference play. Tiller is a good passer and a great defender, and he's wonderful in transition. That won't change ... but I just don't have the words to describe how much of a liability he is in a half-court offense.
Three Keys Revisited
From Tuesday's preview.
Pace
For the game, the pace was fine -- 72 possessions or so. But Mizzou let ATM play their pace over the Worst 13 Minutes Ever, and it allowed ATM to catch their breath and go win the game.
The 3-Pointer
In the end, Mizzou didn't necessarily shoot well from 3-point range (you'll never consider 32% good), but they've certainly shot worse. What killed Mizzou was the fact that ATM almost doubled their season 3-point %. They came in shooting around 31% from long-range, and they shot 60%. Some of them were wide open (often coming after Mizzou almost forced a backcourt turnover but didn't), and a lot of them were well-guarded ... but 60% is pretty good if you're completely alone on the court. Play ATM again, and that probably doesn't happen, but it did when it counted, and it killed Mizzou as much as anything else.
The Zebras
Honestly? I never enjoy Ed Hightower games, but all things considered, the refs could have been a lot worse. Yes, ATM shot a lot more FT's, and yes, I could point out some bad calls, but so could ATM fans. The refs called this game like we would normally want it to be called -- teams were allowed to be physical (most of the time, at least), and that usually benefits Mizzou. But not against the Davis-Loubeau frontcourt.
Summary
Buckle up, Mizzou fans. Mizzou's got nine conference games remaining, and aside from the home games against Iowa State and Colorado (which you figure are as sure a win as you can have in this conference), seven of the remaining games are both winnable and losable. Seriously, go down the list. Would it surprise you if Mizzou beat Kansas at home? No. Would it surprise you if they lost at Iowa State, Nebraska or Colorado? No. Mizzou stands at 4-3, and if we can roughly assume victory when ISU/CU visit, that means they stand at six conference wins. To feel safe about a tourney bid, they need to dig up at least two more wins, preferably three. Doesn't matter where they happen, just that they happen.
Mizzou now has to travel to Boulder to play a Colorado team that has narrowly lost to Kansas and Kansas State and beat Baylor ... and lost to pitiful Oregon State and Colorado State squads (plus, they were demolished by Tulsa). Colorado has not handled Mizzou's style even remotely well in recent years, but it's pretty clear that if Mizzou doesn't play well, or if they start settling for pull-up shots again (I'm willing to somewhat forgive what happened for a portion of the second half yesterday, as I really couldn't have been more impressed with ATM's defense ... but Colorado doesn't have the athletes ATM does) and those shots don't go in, CU will happily take a W off of Mizzou, and the Tigers will really have to start scrambling to find the necessary wins to stay safe from the NCAA tourney cut-off.
The streak is over, and for all intents and purposes, the season begins anew on Saturday.
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It's rather rare to see both teams pop up on the lead safeness
And also probably just as rare for a team to lose that gets the lead safeness to pop up with almost 17 MINUTES to go in the game.
le sigh
this one
hurts, like the Baylor football loss.
"No regrets, that's my motto. That, and everybody wang chung tonight."
The good thing about basketball is
that you can have losses like this and they, for the most part, don’t matter a whole ton in the big picture. With 30+ games you can have some bad losses and still make the dance and if you miss the dance you’ve got a lot more to blame than one bad loss.
Ironically, the Baylor game probably cost Mizzou very little in the big picture as well, as I’m sure a 9-3 Mizzou team winds up in the same bowl and puts out probably the exact same performance.
The one real cost to losing the Baylor game
is that now we have to listen to yahoos screaming for various coaches’ heads during the offseason. I feel like some of those people would have shut up if not for that game – especially the part where we made Nick Florence look like Joe Montana. Bleck.
Making fun of the "Mizzou Needs a Fullback" Club since...well, for a while, anyway.
ok, but
this had better be the last BAD loss of the season. we’d already had 2 going into this game. maybe even 3, depending on how hard you’re going to be on this year’s squad.
"A third of a gopher would only arouse my appetite without beddin' 'er back down." -Ulysses Everett McGill
Define "bad"
How they played, or the opponent? Because I think Mizzou fans are seriously selling aTm short.
by RPT on Feb 4, 2010 6:30 PM CST up reply actions
against a lesser opponent, or when you have a considerable lead in the 2nd half.
especially at home. i feel ou, oru at least meet these criteria.
"A third of a gopher would only arouse my appetite without beddin' 'er back down." -Ulysses Everett McGill
The one thing that really baffled me
was that Ramsey came back in with 4 fouls with like 5 minutes left, and Steve Moore didn’t even get another shot, despite the fact that he was playing way, way better that Keith. I can understand at the end, as Steve necessarily slows the pace down a little bit, and we were running out of time, but it seems to me we had a lot better luck driving the basket with Steve in the paint.
Regarding Steve – I’ve been pretty impressed with him lately, and I think what he primarily needs is more time to get confident. Also, I normally wouldn’t dream of questioning Bill’s analysis, but I’m about 94% certain he had more than one rebound last night, and that’s only in the second half (I missed the first half mostly, stupid night class).
Making fun of the "Mizzou Needs a Fullback" Club since...well, for a while, anyway.
One board.
http://www.mutigers.com/sports/m-baskbl/stats/2009-2010/02-03-10.html
It surprised me too.
Rock M Nation
Thrust nunchuk upward!
So now that the streak is over
Can we start a new one?
Time to start a win streak, I believe its time for this team to make a statement. What that statement will mean has yet to be decided. Hopeful it’s a good statement.
We will found out soon.
Heads up Tigers, let’s get a W!
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by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Feb 4, 2010 1:45 PM CST reply actions
I have to say...
the look on Kimmie’s face after the Turner dunk was priceless. As a basketball aficionado, I think Kimmie was able to grasp the face-pounding awesomeness of that dunk.
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For the masochists:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjrPSDinP0I
That has yet to stop blowing my mind.
by RPT on Feb 4, 2010 2:00 PM CST up reply actions
No don't watch it
It’ll turn you to stone!
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by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Feb 4, 2010 2:01 PM CST up reply actions
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by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Feb 4, 2010 2:03 PM CST up reply actions
I need to cleanse my mind after that.
This helps.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eg5mzeBvNns
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Or, if you want to cleanse your mind in a pro-Mizzou way..
…you knew this one was coming.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SFgPqmUDig
And apparently he’s still pleasing the crowds overseas…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TH6ZwWgrHVw
Rock M Nation
Thrust nunchuk upward!
Because Paulding play was (deemed) legal.
And because we ended up losing that KU game by one…after the “charge” that was being called a charge before Dooling jumped. Yes, I’m still bitter.
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and I quote:
Paulding! Woohoo!
Even Rocky had a montage.
by Other Side of the Pillow on Feb 4, 2010 4:08 PM CST up reply actions
Also, Tiller might be around the level of a shooter of Dogus Balbay
but you never see Balbay shoot threes.
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Because Balbay is hitting 10% of them.
At least Tiller is hitting at 15 percent.
/things I didn’t expect to say today
by RPT on Feb 4, 2010 2:03 PM CST up reply actions
So it's that 5%
that makes him Jesus, or Tyrannosaurus?
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by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Feb 4, 2010 2:05 PM CST up reply actions
God, it's like comparing Willy Taveras' slugging percentage to Jason Kendall.
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by UribeAuction on Feb 4, 2010 2:05 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
indeed
Mendoza vs Tony Pena Jr.
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by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Feb 4, 2010 2:06 PM CST up reply actions
you sir are a master
/bows to appropriate level to express ultimate sports blog admiration
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by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Feb 4, 2010 2:20 PM CST up reply actions
Dayton Moore to an inanimate carbon rod.

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Last night was also an indication
that this road game at CU will be anything but a gimmie.
"No regrets, that's my motto. That, and everybody wang chung tonight."
Disappointed Indeed!
I couldn’t believe that we turned our game completely off once we had a 10 point advantage. I give credit to aTm in part but this was mostly our fault. That second 5 should have come right back out because they were horrible together. Also, Ramsey, Safford and Moore have to figure out that they are big guys capable of taking the ball to the basket! I saw Ramsey recieve the ball with his defender on one shoulder, he could have turned and taken a step and put the ball in the basket either forcing the defender to foul or possibly getting blocked but he passed it back out every time. He could be a force inside but he seems to be afraid of his own shadow in the game. I think (hope) this changes soon! Moore is about the same too.
And to finish your quote…….“Punt!”
win 5 more
and we’re in? I realize it’s much more complicated than that, but if we end up 21-9, or even 20-10, I think we should be alright.
"No regrets, that's my motto. That, and everybody wang chung tonight."
I do think it's that simple.
Our RPI will be just fine considering our schedule. 9-7 in conference will DEFINITELY get us in, and 8-8 would put us in decent shape.
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terrible at math
21-10, 20-11.
"No regrets, that's my motto. That, and everybody wang chung tonight."
We need to just win at Boulder,
take care of ISU at home, then either win at BU or at home against Texas. Then, we’d be 7-4 (I know we at least 1 of these games). Then we get @Neb, a game we MUST win because it’s a game that we can and easily should win. However, Lincoln is always a tough place to play. We are going to beat Colorado at home by 30, then I think we can take ISU on the road. @KSU and vs KU are games that I feel could go either way. We’re looking at anywhere from 9-7 to possibly 11-5 in conference play.
He didn't need the backboard on that one!
I momentarily blanked on the CU game at home...
…yeah, that’s a second likely win, leaving us needing only three in the other seven games. And I’m happy to see someone’s stepped back from the ledge. :-)
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Yes. I post stupid stuff when I'm angry.
However, I’ve seen stupider stuff said after losses (see Tigerboard after Oral Roberts).
He didn't need the backboard on that one!
Actually...
I took a screenshot of TB after the Oral Roberts loss.
by RPT on Feb 4, 2010 3:07 PM CST up reply actions
I actually believe that's Weatherspoon's head
after he realized some racist dumbass had taken the nickname he gave to Aldon Smith.
He didn't need the backboard on that one!
Biggest play of the game, IMO
Was when Taylor didn’t rebound the ball and Holmes stole it away from him to get an easy layup (I think it was when Sloan stole it from Tiller and then missed the layup … but Taylor didn’t think anyone was around and didn’t pick up the ball). To me, that play just kind of epitomized that Mizzou thought it had the game in the bag and didn’t play very smart or particularly hard once they got up 10 or so.
The second biggest play was the easy putback off the free throw that I believe Middleton got (might not have been him … can’t remember who exactly). It brought TAMU to within 3 or so with about 8 minutes left.
This game is going to hurt come Selection Sunday, no doubt about it. We can still get in, no doubt, but a lot of our margin for error has evaporated. We’re either going to have to beat both UT and kU, or steal one at either Baylor or K-State (and then beat either Texas or kU). And that’s assuming we take care of business with CU and ISU at home. I’m assuming we drop at least one in either Boulder, Ames or Lincoln.
With our RPI, I’m afraid we might need 10 to get in (or at least the right 9). Hope I’m wrong though.
Was once caught putting at night ... with the 15-year old daughter of the dean
I think the RPI will continue to improve, as long as we go .500ish the rest of the way.
The road’s pretty rugged. We’ll be perfectly fine at 9-7. Not as sure about 8-8.
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I don't see how we go 8-8
ISU, CU, @ISU, @CU, @Neb, @KSU, UT, KU, @BU.
W, W, W, L, L, L, W, W, L
There are absolutely no more games where you pretty much know you will lose.
We are better than ISU, CU, and Nebraska. We are as good as Baylor and Kansas State. We might be worse than UT and KU, but when teams come to Mizzou Arena they are in for a fight. Yesterday’s game was an outlier, we normally are very good and we’re 32-1 over the past 33 home games, not too shabby. We easily come out of all this with 5 victories, which I think isn’t putting us on the bubble, but we won’t have a seed any better than 10 or 11.
He didn't need the backboard on that one!
I had to listen to the second half
But why the f—- did Tiller take the three at the end of the game? Denmon is by far the best three-point shooter on the team.
Making you feel old since 9/26/09
The Saint Louis Post-Dispatch this morning
said that Kimmeh was supposed to take the shot, but something broke down along the way and JT’s only option was to shoot.
He didn't need the backboard on that one!
Last Shot
It appeared that aTm did a very good job of denying the ball to our good 3 point shooters and with 2 seconds left it was up to whoever had the ball which, unfortunately, was Tiller. That’s what it looked like to me anyway. It’s really too bad it came down to that though! We should have been the team with the lead at the end & could have been with just a few better decisions throughout the game.
in a situation like that
where ONLY a 3 point shot counts, and everything else is lose, JT shouldn’t have been on the floor. He does lots of other stuff well, but none of those things would have kept us in the game. We should have had our 5 best 3 pt shooters, and let ATM pick their poison. By putting Mr. 15% on the floor, we gave them a strategy: Force it to him, and make him take the shot. It doesn’t matter if he would have performed stunning defence afterwards, or helped a transition game afterwards, or any such, because there was not going to BE any defense or transition without a trey.
In my book it was a rare dumb coaching mistake.
by Wan Ihite on Feb 4, 2010 3:20 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I agree with this.
I love JT, and if we were down two, he’s as good at driving as anybody…but we weren’t. Should have had Dixon out there instead.
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yes to this
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by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Feb 4, 2010 3:53 PM CST up reply actions
Anybody but Tiller for the 3
I think everyone on the team shoots a better 3 than Tiller and I agree he shouldn’t have been in the game. Whether MA wanted him there for his ball-handling or what I don’t know. Taylor had just fouled out and I know that we had Tiller, Dixon and Denmon in, not sure of the big men but the way Safford shoots 3’s I would have like him better for it too. Also, we could have tried taking it inside to Bowers letting him score a quick 2 and fouling aTm immediately on the inbounds pass again & hope they miss at least 1 FT which they were doing all night. I know there wasn’t much time for that but it’s a thought.
I woldnt have had TIller in the game
Dixon, Denmon, Kimmie up top and big bodied, Safford and L Bow down low. Five guys on the floor who can take the shot but 2 whose primary role is to rebound (fall back options)
Everyone that spoke in postgame pressers last night...
… said that not only was the play designed for Kimmie with an option for Dixon, but they had no problem with Tiller taking that shot because that was the best look they were going to get, especially with how tight the defense was on the other options.
by RPT on Feb 4, 2010 3:10 PM CST up reply actions
There is no such thing as a good look from 3
if Jesus Tyrannosaurus has the ball. I love JT (in a manly sort of way) but he really can’t shoot very well. I like his pull-up jumper in the lane, I love his driving (that dunk early in the second half on the feed from English was SWEET) and of course I love the way he plays defense, but he takes too many three-pointers, especially last night where he took three of them.
He didn't need the backboard on that one!
Was Dixon out there? Or Denmon?
Whoever wasn’t, should have been. :-)
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I turned to my buddy before we inbounded
and said “Kimmie, Denmon, and Dixon are all going to be covered…I think Bowers takes the shot.”
I envisioned Bowers sliding to the corner and not being defended as closely as the other three and him getting the look. I would have been far more comfortable with that than Tiller receiving the ball at the top of the perimeter, but hey, there’s also a reason why I’m not a basketball coach.
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I honestly think Sutton wouldn't have been a bad player to have out there at the end
He’s a pretty good shooter, but nothing else. Anybody better than Tiller
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No
He usually misses his first shot by 3 feet, then he’s unconsious.
Not an option.
At all.
The sleeper has awoken. . .awakened. . .he woke up.
ok, put Sutton in with about 1:25 left
let him take is required “calibration” shot….then………….we win.
done
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by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Feb 4, 2010 4:52 PM CST up reply actions
but
he’s very popular, Sleepy. The sportos, the motorheads, geeks, sluts, bloods, wasteoids, dweebies, dickheads — they all adore him. They think he’s a righteous dude.
Surely that’s got to count for something. :)
Even Rocky had a montage.
by Other Side of the Pillow on Feb 4, 2010 5:19 PM CST up reply actions
could you have imagined if sutton had tied the game or won it
that arena would have literally exploded
Great moments are born from great opportunity.
that would've ended the mizzou arena winning streak, too.
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Agree with almost everything except:
ATM’s guards did not allow any penetration lanes whatsoever.
What I saw was that our guards didn’t try very hard to penetrate until Taylor and Dixon both got through. I saw many instances in that span when there is potential for dribble penetration since help was far off. This is in fact my slight disagreement with MA philosophy (or my understanding of it). MA is preaching ball movement and rotation. I think our team needs to think about fundamentals and take a more balanced approach to the triple threat instead of favoring passing first. I know it’s heresy to criticize MA; this is only a very slight criticism. I am a total MA believer even though we had a few incidents with Grimes and Horton a few years back. I absolutely love his brand of B-ball. I still recall that I was not too thrilled when we hired MA instead of Bob Huggins or even the Bobby Knights rumors. Boy am I glad to have MA. Other teams, please keep your hands off of our coach.
And as always, thanks for your excellent write-up, Bill.
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