Know Your Fellow Pressing Tigers: Clemson
Mizzou's dancing once again! Let's take a look at the mirror images Mizzou will face in Buffalo on Friday. And as always, leave your Trifecta picks in the comments. Somebody better win this one!
Clemson: 21-10 (9-8 in the ACC)
| CU | Opp |
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| Points Per Minute |
1.83 | 1.60 |
| Points Per Possession (PPP) |
1.06 | 0.92 |
| Points Per Shot (PPS) |
1.25 | 1.16 |
| 2-PT FG% | 51.2% | 46.8% |
| 3-PT FG% | 33.6% | 29.4% |
| FT% | 65.9% | 67.7% |
| True Shooting % | 54.2% | 50.2% |
| CU | Opp | |
| Assists/Gm | 14.2 | 11.7 |
| Steals/Gm | 9.6 | 8.0 |
| Turnovers/Gm | 14.8 | 17.5 |
| Ball Control Index (Assists + Steals) / TO |
1.60 | 1.13 |
| CU | Opp | |
| Expected Offensive Rebounds/Gm | 12.5 | 12.4 |
| Offensive Rebounds/Gm | 13.0 | 12.0 |
| Difference | +0.5 | -0.4 |
Ken Pomeroy Stats
| MU | Clemson | ||
| Pace | 40 |
84 |
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| Mizzou Offense vs Clemson Defense Ranks |
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| MU Offense | CU Defense | Advantage | |
| Efficiency | 50 | 9 | CU |
| Effective FG% | 96 | 56 | CU |
| Turnover % | 50 | 8 | CU |
| Off. Reb. % | 136 | 214 | MU |
| FTA/FGA | 280 | 119 | CU Big |
| Clemson Offense vs Mizzou Defense Ranks |
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| CU Offense | MU Defense | Advantage | |
| Efficiency | 47 | 12 | MU |
| Effective FG% | 81 | 44 | MU |
| Turnover % | 218 | 3 | MU Big |
| Off. Reb. % | 53 | 323 | CU Big |
| FTA/FGA | 240 | 202 | MU |
(Bet you didn't expect Clemson to rank only 84th in Pace, huh?)
Where Clemson is strongest
- They force turnovers. Few teams force turnovers at as high a rate as Mizzou, but Clemson comes as close as anybody. Oliver Purnell teams press as much as Mike Anderson teams, and they're equally successful at it. In recent years, Mizzou has been vulnerable to sudden, surprise presses, but there will be no surprise here. How they prepare to play against the pressure defense they prefer to inflict will go a long way in deciding the game. I don't know how well they'll do at this because ... have they even played against this style in Mike Anderson's tenure here?
- They hit the offensive glass. By the time the game rolls around on Friday, you'll know Trevor Booker's name pretty well. However, be afraid of Jerai Grant. He is the most dangerous of a team full of players who are super-effective on the offensive glass. He averages 0.12 offensive rebounds per minute (for reference, Laurence Bowers grabs 0.11 per minute at a higher pace), while three other Clemson players (Trevor and Devin Booker, Milton Jennings) average 0.09 (Mizzou only has one other player above 0.07 -- Keith Ramsey)
Where they are weakest
- They're careless with the ball. Ranking 218th in offensive Turnover% is odd for a team so good at forcing turnovers themselves, and it certainly damages their BCI. For the season, Clemson actually had more turnovers than assists, which is crazy to think about considering how many steals and transition opportunities they created. Four of CU's five starters are on the plus side of the A-TO ratio, but pretty much every backup is not, which is something Mizzou could exploit.
- They settle for jumpers (despite not being very good at them). Of the nine players in Clemson's main rotation, only three shoot over 50%, while five shoot under 42%. (Sounds familiar, right?) But that doesn't stop CU from taking 20 3-pointers per game and drawing few fouls. It's just as well, really, as they're not a very good free throw shooting team either (268th in the country at 65.9%). In all, CU needs easy buckets as much as Mizzou does.
Mirror Images.
The first thing that jumps out looking at the Ken Pomeroy numbers is simply how similar Mizzou and Clemson have been this season. They rank 50th (MU) and 47th (CU) in overall offensive efficiency, 9th (CU) and 12th (MU) in defensive efficiency. They rank 81st (CU) and 96th (MU) in offensive Effective FG%, and their defenses rank 44th (MU) and 56th (CU). They force insane numbers of turnovers (MU is 3rd, CU 8th) and don't draw fouls (CU 240th, MU 280th).
There are still some differences, however. Clemson has been much more effective on the offensive glass (53rd) than Mizzou (136th), and while both are vulnerable on the defensive glass, it is less of a liability for CU (214th) than MU (323rd). Meanwhile, neither are great at avoiding fouls, but it is less of an issue for CU (119th) than MU (202nd). At the same time, Mizzou is infinitely smarter with the ball (50th in offensive Turnover%) than Clemson (218th). It is pretty easy to put together where the key matchups are. If Mizzou can keep Clemson off the offensive glass and take advantage of Clemson's occasional ball-handling carelessness, then they're in business. If not ... well ...
Be prepared for some bricks.
I discussed last week how Mizzou's major trio of 3-point shooters -- Kim English, Marcus Denmon, Zaire Taylor -- only tended to shoot as well as their opponents let them, shooting horribly against top 3PT% defenses and lighting up lesser ones (and being completely schizophrenic against the worst of the worst). I've got some bad news for you: Clemson is tenth in the country at 3PT% allowed. Meanwhile, Clemson shoots too many 3's themselves (19.6 3's per game) considering they're not very good at them (they shoot just 33.6%, 197th in the country), and Mizzou is pretty strong at 3-point defense (39th).
In other words, you could build a small house with the number of 3-point bricks that are possible in this game. Whoever can get somebody hot -- English, Denmon, Taylor, or Mike Dixon (or technically J.T. Tiller, who tends to make them when nobody else can) for Mizzou, Demontez Stitt, David Potter, Andre Young, Tanner Smith or Noel Johnson for Clemson -- will have derived a huge advantage in a game in which points could be hard to come by in the half-court. Hey Kimmie, you remember how you shot against Marquette last year? Don't wait until the second round to do that this time around.
CU's Season to Date
- Wins vs KenPom's Top 200
#10 Maryland (62-53)
#19 Florida State (77-67)
at #19 Florida State (53-50)
vs #26 Butler (70-69)
#27 Georgia Tech (91-80)
#46 Miami-FL (74-66)
at #59 N.C. State (73-70)
#61 Boston College (72-56)
#63 North Carolina (83-64)
#75 Virginia (72-49)
#88 South Carolina (72-61)
#159 College of Charleston (94-55)
#173 Western Carolina (79-57) - Losses
at #1 Duke (53-74)
#1 Duke (47-60)
at #10 Maryland (79-88)
vs #23 Texas A&M (60-69)
at #27 Georgia Tech (64-66)
at #31 Virginia Tech (59-70)
at #50 Wake Forest (65-70)
#52 Illinois (74-76)
vs #59 N.C. State (57-59)
at #61 Boston College (69-75)
Common Opponents. Mizzou and Clemson have played two common opponents, Illinois and Texas A&M. Clemson collapsed in a 76-74 home loss to Illinois (Mizzou won 81-68 in StL), while Mizzou collapsed in a 77-74 home loss to Texas A&M (CU lost to 69-60 on a neutral court). Anyway, these two games reflect better on Mizzou, but we probably shouldn't draw too many conclusions from a 2-opponent sample, eh?
How has Clemson done recently? Clemson's built the reputation for starting seasons fast and fading, and it looked like the same thing was taking shape this year -- they started 15-3 before losing four of five. However, they responded well, winning five of six to lock up an NCAA bid. They enter the NCAAs having lost two in a row, but again, that's not much of a sample size.
CU Player Stats
| Player | AdjGS*/Gm | GmSc/Min | Line |
| Trevor Booker (6'7, 240, Sr.) | 17.7 | 0.58 | 30.6 MPG, 15.3 PPG (52.3% FG, 26.5% 3PT, 59.2% FT), 8.3 RPG, 2.5 APG, 1.4 SPG, 1.4 BPG, 1.9 TOPG |
| Demontez Stitt (6'2, 175, Jr.) | 10.2 | 0.35 | 29.0 MPG, 11.1 PPG (44.6% FG, 36.7% 3PT, 78.4% FT), 3.2 APG, 2.7 RPG, 1.5 SPG, 2.6 TOPG |
| Jerai Grant (6'8, 220, Jr.) | 9.2 | 0.46 | 20.1 MPG, 7.0 PPG (63.6% FG, 58.0% FT), 4.7 RPG, 1.2 TOPG |
| Andre Young (5'9, 170, So.) | 8.5 | 0.32 | 26.2 MPG, 8.9 PPG (39.2% FG, 36.2% 3PT, 79.3% FT), 2.4 APG, 2.1 RPG, 1.7 SPG, 1.8 TOPG |
| Tanner Smith (6'5, 220, So.) | 8.4 | 0.34 | 24.7 MPG, 8.9 PPG (41.5% FG, 28.4% 3PT, 74.0% FT), 4.1 RPG, 2.2 APG, 1.2 SPG, 2.1 TOPG |
| David Potter (6'6, 215, Sr.) | 5.5 | 0.23 | 23.9 MPG, 7.1 PPG (36.3% FG, 37.9% 3PT, 70.6% FT), 2.6 RPG, 1.4 APG, 1.3 SPG, 1.5 TOPG |
| Devin Booker (6'8, 235, Fr.) | 4.2 | 0.36 | 11.6 MPG, 4.6 PPG (56.7% FG, 53.3% FT), 2.9 RPG |
| Milton Jennings (6'9, 225, Fr.) | 2.9 | 0.26 | 11.4 MPG, 3.4 PPG (37.7% FG, 17.1% 3PT, 64.3% FT), 2.8 RPG |
| Noel Johnson (6'6, 190, Fr.) | 2.9 | 0.19 | 14.8 MPG, 4.7 PPG (37.1% FG, 36.0% 3PT, 72.7% FT), 1.9 RPG |
| Bryan Narcisse (6'6, 205, So.) | 1.4 | 0.25 | 5.8 MPG, 1.9 PPG (56.7% FG, 50.0% FT) |
| Donte Hill (6'4, 200, Fr.) | 1.3 | 0.25 | 5.1 MPG, 1.4 PPG (37.5% FG, 42.9% FT) |
* AdjGS = a take-off of the Game Score metric (definition here) accepted by a lot of basketball stat nerds. It redistributes a team's points based not only on points scored, but also by giving credit for assists, rebounds (offensive & defensive), steals, blocks, turnovers and fouls. It is a stat intended to determine who had the biggest overall impact on the game itself, instead of just how many balls a player put through a basket.
- Trevor Booker pretty clearly presents the most unique matchup problem for Mizzou, basically putting up magnified Laurence Bowers stats (solid shooting, good on the glass, fills out the entire box score), only carrying about 35 more pounds (and two more years of experience) than Bowers. He can potentially be pushed around a bit by bigger opponents (he had only six points on eight shots, with four rebounds against Wake Forest and huge Chas McFarland) ... but that's not exactly going to be a problem for him against Mizzou.
- Meanwhile, Demontez Stitt is the type of guard who seems to struggle against Mizzou -- hit-or-miss from long-range, turnover-prone. He is, however, strong on defense, and he is a good 2-point shooter. He is not my biggest concern, but he is one of about five different Clemson shooters who could catch fire at some point.
- Jerai Grant is the type of hustle player that gives MIzzou fits sometimes. As mentioned above, he's great on the offensive glass, he only takes short, makeable shots and putbacks, he blocks shots, and he cleans up messes. He is not someone you gameplan against, but he can bite you at inconvenient times.
- Clemson is bigger than Mizzou, but only marginally so. They have two big(ish) freshmen averaging about 11 MPG each, and only the two Bookers are larger than 220-225 pound range.
Keys to the Game
- Who gets hot? Anyone? As I mentioned on Sunday's podcast, Mizzou really hasn't played like a 10-seed all year -- they've either been a 4-5 seed or an NIT team. And when they're making their shots, they're damn near unbeatable. But will they make their shots? It's hard to tell for sure. English, Taylor and Denmon only shot 27.9% on 3-pointers against teams ranked in the Top 100 in 3-point% defense, but two of the four games in that sample came in the shooting nightmare that was the SPI Convention Center in South Padre (they were 3-for-19 at SPI against Richmond and Old Dominion). Is the HSBC Arena a good shooting environment? Can English or Denmon get rolling?
But that's only half of the question. Clemson also has players who could go 5-for-10 or 1-for-8. Andre Young and David Potter in particular could go crazy or kill their team. Whoever gets dialed in probably wins this game ... and good luck predicting who that might be. - R-E-B-O-U-N-D. As mentioned above, Clemson's biggest advantage comes in their ability to grab offensive rebounds. Mizzou has to keep Trevor Booker and Jerai Grant off the glass, and if they do, the Clemson offense could ground to a halt very quickly. Neither team is great in the halfcourt, and if Clemson is going one-and-done, they will quite frankly struggle to score (unless somebody gets smokin' hot ... see Key #1).
- BCI! BCI! In a pressing system, ball control matters above all else, and Mizzou did a better job of that than Clemson this year. Their season BCI margin of +1.01 (1.98 to 0.97) trumps Clemson's +0.47 (1.60 to 1.13), primarily because Clemson turns the ball over too damn much. The only way Mizzou can win without shooting well from long range is if they're forcing turnovers and creating easy shots ... and the same more-or-less goes for Clemson. Dominate the ball, dominate the game.
Prediction
If CU wins ... you know the signs by now. Clemson gets a couple of early putbacks, Kim English goes up half-sideways on his first jumper, Marcus Denmon's first 3 misses badly, Taylor and Tiller aren't the stabilizers Mizzou sometimes needs them to be, Mizzou isn't generating any easy shots and struggles in the halfcourt ... chances are, a Mizzou loss on Friday will follow a relatively familiar script, though facing a pressing team like Clemson means things could go well or poorly much quicker. Expect both teams to make runs at some point, but if Mizzou loses, we're probably looking at something in the Clemson 74, Mizzou 66 range.
If Mizzou wins ... again, you know the script. Somebody -- English, Denmon, Taylor -- makes a couple of early 3's, J.T. Tiller is drawing fouls, both Tiller and Bowers are finishing around the hoop, Mizzou is grabbing defensive rebounds, and Keith Ramsey sneaks in a couple of early putbacks. For the game, Mizzou makes a healthy percentage of their open shots, is able to set up the press, and knocks Clemson back on their heels a bit. Again, both teams make runs, but Mizzou is in control and wins 77-71.
Honestly, I do not think this game will be nearly as high-scoring and crazy as we would like to think it will be. With neither team guaranteed to shoot well (and therefore press as much), I expect this game to be determined in the halfcourt ... which favors neither offense. Honestly, your guess is as good as mine in regard to who gets hot and who doesn't, but I'm picking Missouri for two main reasons: 1) Mike Anderson has seen quite a bit of success in the NCAA Tournament, and Oliver Purnell has not, and 2) It doesn't really matter who I pick, so why wouldn't I go with Mizzou if I don't have a strong feeling either way? Clemson is a smidge more consistent, and Mizzou has higher upside, and ... Mizzou 77, Clemson 71.
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Huh?
How they prepare to play against the pressure defense they prefer to inflict will go a long way in deciding the game. I don’t know how well they’ll do at this because … have they even played against this style in Mike Anderson’s tenure here?
I’m going to assume either a) my sarcasm meter is way off, or b) you meant to add “in a game” to that last sentence. Because unless they’re specifically game-planning an opponent — i.e. running against some semblance of a “scout team”, I have this hunch that Mike Anderson’s players have quite a bit of experience trying to move the ball against a Mike Anderson press.
Gotcha.
I think my sour reply was because I read “Know Your…” in the post title and was expecting “Better Know an Opponent” greatness from ght. It ruined my morning!
Thank you...
…for dropping the dime that sets up one of my favorite (and most underutilized) Microsoft Paint jobs.

"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010
Don't force it, RPT.
You’re Jason Kidd. I’m Matt Carroll. So, you know, if you don’t set me up, there’s no way in hell I’m scoring.
"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010
I feel comfortable saying...
… Clemson has set your shot up PERFECTLY for when Better Know finally drops.
Not to give too much away...
…but just go look up the name of the traveling trophy that South Carolina and Clemson play for.
"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010
Trifecta
Taylor
Bowers
Denmon
"When you get behind in the count," Farnsworth said, "you go with a fastball. That’s what I did there, and that’s what he wants."
It is scary how much we are mirror images of each other.
The keys to the game are pretty much the key to every game we ever play, as well as every one ya’ll play.
Been reading this site since football season. I love all the metrics because they give me reasons to feel good before we blow it on the actual court/field/whatever we happen to be playing on.
That said, I haven’t paid enough attention to figure out what the Trifecta picks are other than the fact that nobody ever picks it right. :) Enlighten me?
by OrangeBritches on Mar 16, 2010 10:03 AM CDT reply actions
The Trifecta
Something we started before the Jan. 25 game at Kansas. We noticed how volatile the leaders in our “Adjusted GameScore” metric were from game-to-game. We joked that people wouldn’t be able to pick the top 3 leaders for a game in order.
13 games later, only one time has someone been able to pick Mizzou’s top 3 performers in Adj. GS.
Trifecta
English
Tiller
Bowers
"So we finish the 18th and he's gonna stiff me. And I say, 'Hey, Lama, hey, how about a little something, you know, for the effort, you know".
So
I have a test at 2 on Friday, tip off is 1:40 ish. Throwing in any NCAA Tournament TV delay, what are my chances of seeing all the second half, if I get back home at 2:50?
Or should I just be hoping Morgan St. and WVU go into a double overtime thriller?
"So we finish the 18th and he's gonna stiff me. And I say, 'Hey, Lama, hey, how about a little something, you know, for the effort, you know".
ugh...
i am SO torn on the trifecta. Will bowers and ramsey be able to make the plays against clemsons bigs? do i think that our sharpshooters will show up? so many things to think about…here goes:
English
Bowers
Taylor
Iman Shumpert:
Went to boom and my high school.
Tiller
Taylor
Ramsey
Chicago White Sox Examiner — IT'S A JEEP THING YOU WOULDN'T UNDERSTAND
Sophomore Studs give the seniors (at least) one more game
Denmon
English
Bowers
The sleeper has awoken. . .awakened. . .he woke up.
From Kimmie:
Lmao.. Never text me saying “I just made my bracket, and I have you guys goin to the elite 8, make me proud”.. Who shoots to make it to the elite 8..elite eight.BEEN THERE DONE THAT. 2:35pm est tip vs Clemson is all I’m thinking of
At least he’s focused…
by leghumpingjihadkiller on Mar 16, 2010 11:11 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Trifecta-Super Sophmores!
Kimmeh
Denmon
Bowers
by Matt32 on Mar 16, 2010 11:25 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
Trifecta
Ramsey
Kimmeh
Bowers
yeah, they are stronger inside on paper, Im hoping their bigs will get worn down/not as agile as our bigs. Also with our press against their huge number or turnovers, shouldn’t Keith have a big game?
Underdog Trifecta
Bowers
Dixon (debatable underdog)
Ramsey
by KCTiger on Mar 16, 2010 1:13 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
english
denmon
dixon
we’re going to catch fire!
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by stlcardinalsfang on Mar 16, 2010 1:20 PM CDT reply actions
Ricardo Ratliffe
Just wondering if Mizzou has chance to get this guy. I saw he said he will visit Mizzou, Arkansas, Clemson, Alabama, and Uconn. So that Clemson game could be huge considering we are only 2 teams in Big Dance out of this list. I also wonder how Mizzou would get another scholarship unless someone is leaving that we dont know about.
Can't imagine he's going to let the outcome of one game sway him...
…but in general, I’ve only been paying half-attention to the Ratliffe recruitment. At this moment, we don’t actually have a scholarship (that we know about) to give, so until it comes out that somebody’s leaving, I’m going to pretend we’re just looking at Ratliffe as a “Just in case…” guy. Somebody announces a transfer, and I start paying more attention.
Rock M Nation
I'm on Twitter! http://www.twitter.com/billconnelly1
Who would transfer?
That shit would just make me sad.
Mike doesn’t want that. He doesn’t need to go out and sign a bunch of McDonald’s All-Americans. He just needs to go find a few Burger King-type guys and he’ll get it done.
by tigers and chiefs fan on Mar 16, 2010 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Does this work into the
Kadeem Green situation at all? Haven’t checked in on his status lately, but last I heard he’d picked up a knee that maybe put his status in question?
"This team is just one unit that gels so good. We need everybody, but we don’t need nobody." --Mr. Coffee
by Other Side of the Pillow on Mar 16, 2010 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Achilles.
And last I heard, we were absolutely planning on honoring the scholarship.
Rock M Nation
I'm on Twitter! http://www.twitter.com/billconnelly1
and...
A little research would have answered my own question. meh. Sorry :)
"This team is just one unit that gels so good. We need everybody, but we don’t need nobody." --Mr. Coffee
by Other Side of the Pillow on Mar 16, 2010 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Ok-- last stupid question on this issue
Isn’t Jarrett Sutton on a 1-year type thing in the fallout from the Keith DeWitt non-qualifying deal? /research research/ and here is the information I was remembering.
"This team is just one unit that gels so good. We need everybody, but we don’t need nobody." --Mr. Coffee
by Other Side of the Pillow on Mar 16, 2010 9:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Nevermind--
once again I answered my own question… my math was wrong.
"This team is just one unit that gels so good. We need everybody, but we don’t need nobody." --Mr. Coffee
by Other Side of the Pillow on Mar 16, 2010 9:54 PM CDT up reply actions
TERRIFECTA
English
Ramsey
Denmoney
Please please just let me get what I want.
by kevinf on Mar 16, 2010 2:31 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Who would transfer?
Just a guess maybe MP3, i think he fits the system but probably hasnt played minutes he has liked this yr. I hope no one but to have offered the kid already makes me wonder. Also any chance Kerklow would walkon, i know many have said before that he would be given scholar no doubt but with recruit of this profile being highly interested in Tigers. I think he should be a guy we go after hard for fact that he is a juco, and he wants to play right away, 6’9 would add the depth and take some pressure off Mitchell. I think Arkansas will probably land him but would love to see him in Black and Gold
All four of next year's recruits have signed letters of intent
Not only that, it is absolutely out of Anderson’s character to ask a kid to walk-on.
My Trifecta as promised:
Because actually choosing the best never works,
Here are the most underrated clutch players:
Number 1: Kim English for his role in Marquette, home ISU, and home A&M even though we lost.
Number 2: Marcus Denmon for his role in the home KSU game and Memphis, in which his long three not only was great for youtube but also is almost never mentioned for the fact that it turned a slightly easy deficit to overcome into a monstrous wall of 13 points.
Number 3: Keith Ramsey for his role in Texas, away ISU, and home KSU
"Sometimes when Will Ebner tackles people, I think they are going to explode on impact."
Just read the first betting line I've seen, courtesy of the wonderful Big12Hoops.com.
Mizzou a 1.5-point dog. That’s an OUTSTANDING betting line. Exactly where I would have set it.
"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010
My unique position
As a life-long Mizzou fan (born in Columbia no less) and a graduate of Clemson, this game puts me in quite the bind loyalty-wise. That being said, these are my two teams so I know them best of any other teams in the ncaa, and this is how I see it (for what it’s worth):
Trevor Booker is easily among the top 2 or 3 skilled big men Mizzou will have seen all year, and while he is a bit under-sized, he is one of those guys that plays much bigger than he actually is. He’s a man. Plain and simple. He can cause major problems for this Mizzou team… but I don’t think he’s the key for a couple reasons: (1) Anderson seems to be able to do a really good job of shutting down “the guy” on teams, and with Clemson, Booker is clearly the guy to focus on, and (2) Clemson has this bad tendency to forget to get him the ball for long stretches. Inexplicable, but true. This means for me, it’s right on the money to peg Jerai Grant as the key to this game. If Mizzou lets him get the garbage points he thrives on, it could be a really frustrating night in Missouri.
For Mizzou, I think that Tiller, Taylor, Dixon, or whoever ends up on Stitt will be the key(s). He can be made to turn the ball over, and if Mizzou can get him playing too fast, that is going to be easy points. My prediction is that Mizzou will pull it out, mostly b/c I’ve watched too many Clemson first-round tourney chokes to believe in them. I am from Missouri after all, they have to show-me they can win before I’ll pick them.
As for my trifecta:
Taylor
Denmon
Dixon
Trifecta = Basketball roulette
There’s clearly no skill involved here – it’s all luck.
Denmoney
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"Sometimes when Will Ebner tackles people, I think they are going to explode on impact."
Trifecta
Tiller
Ramsey
English
…to be different. Seniors step up in big way.
Tri-againa
Taylor
Ramsey
English
"This team is just one unit that gels so good. We need everybody, but we don’t need nobody." --Mr. Coffee
by Other Side of the Pillow on Mar 16, 2010 5:31 PM CDT reply actions
Tourneyfecta
English
Bowers
Ramsey
"I'm a genius, but I'm a misunderstood genius."
"What's misunderstood about you?"
"Nobody thinks I'm a genius."
by Transmogrified Tiger on Mar 16, 2010 6:28 PM CDT reply actions
prediction sure to go wrong:
denmon
taylor
ramsey
In the immortal words of Jean Paul Sartre, 'Au revoir, gopher'. Carl Spackler
we didn't have a play-in game live thread (as expected)
so I’m using this space to forward my congratulations to the very likeable Golden Lions, and verbalize my dislike for the play-in game in general. It almost seems unfair.
"So we finish the 18th and he's gonna stiff me. And I say, 'Hey, Lama, hey, how about a little something, you know, for the effort, you know".
Trifecta!
Denmon
Dixon
Taylor
The guards show up!
by JohnMatuszakloveschunk on Mar 16, 2010 10:06 PM CDT reply actions
Trifection
Denmon
Ramsey
Tiller
Thanks to RPT and UribeAuction for stopping in a tossing down a couple. Always nice to see RMN’ers out and about enjoying their night! Alas, Friday night/Sunday is not a McNally’s friendly MU schedule, but assuming we all survive St. Pat’s, and the building isn’t burnt to the ground by a raging waitress, we will be there on Saturday!
Bet me!
The Perfecta!!
1. Taylor
2. English
3. Ramsey
Mike doesn’t want that. He doesn’t need to go out and sign a bunch of McDonald’s All-Americans. He just needs to go find a few Burger King-type guys and he’ll get it done.
by tigers and chiefs fan on Mar 17, 2010 9:51 AM CDT reply actions
Trifecta
Here is my best shot for my second trifecta win
Denmon
English
Ramsey
My guess at the 4-6 spots: Tiller, Bowers, Taylor
Pleez no encouraging early 3s
If Mizzou wins, it’s because they are attacking the basket early and often. Sure, they’ll need to make shots. But shots are much easier when they are unpredictable.
born Dodger blue, now dyed Cardinals red

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