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2009-10 Season Wrap-up (Part One): The Team Stats

With Mizzou's 2009-10 basketball season over, it's time for a series of Season Wrap-Up posts summarizing what went well, what didn't go well, and what to expect in 2010-11, both from Mizzou and the Big 12 as a whole.  First up, of course, is a look at how the season played out statistically.  We'll look at 2009-10 stats and compare them to years past..  Let's get started!

Mizzou 2009-10 vs Mizzou 2008-09

2009-10 2008-09
MU
Opp
MU Opp
Points Per Minute
1.92
1.64
2.04 1.69
Points Per Possession (PPP)
1.10
0.94
1.14 0.95
Points Per Shot (PPS)
1.25
1.19
1.30 1.20
2-PT FG% 47.6%
45.2%
52.7% 46.8%
3-PT FG% 36.8%
31.7%
35.3% 30.3%
FT% 72.4%
70.2%
67.2% 67.4%
True Shooting % 54.3%
50.9%
56.1% 50.9%
MU Opp MU Opp
Assists/Gm 15.2
11.2
18.4 11.9
Steals/Gm 10.9
6.0
10.2 6.2
Turnovers/Gm 12.7
19.4
11.8 18.3
Ball Control Index
(Assists + Steals) / TO
2.06
0.89
2.42 0.99
MU Opp MU Opp
Expected Offensive Rebounds/Gm 13.2 12.7 12.9 12.9
Offensive Rebounds/Gm 13.1 13.6 12.8 12.7
Difference -0.1 +0.9 -0.1 -0.2

Where the Tigers got worse in 2009-10

Defensive Rebounding

Image via The Missourian

We knew Mizzou would miss the offense that DeMarre Carroll and Leo Lyons brought to the table in 2008-09, but the impact felt on the defensive glass was potentially just as important.  Mizzou was equally effective on the offensive glass, but on defense, they regressed by 1.1 rebounds per game.  That really isn't a tremendous amount, but over the course of a season, that can obviously add up.

Star-divide

To illustrate who  was seemingly most responsible for the regression, we're going to use a stat called Defensive Rebounding %, which is simply the percentage of available rebounds one grabbed when they were on the court.  DeMarre Carroll's DR% in 2008-09 was 0.19, and Leo Lyons' was 0.18, meaning they grabbed 19% and 18% of the available rebounds, respectively.  Mizzou's top three defensive rebounders in 2009-10 were Laurence Bowers (0.16), Justin Safford (0.15) and Keith Ramsey (0.14).  Rebounding from the guard position actually improved (Marcus Denmon grabbed an impressive 0.11, while J.T. Tiller and Zaire Taylor were both at 0.09), but as you see, Bowers, Safford and Ramsey were slightly worse than Carroll and Lyons -- worse enough to make a difference of 1-2 boards a night.

2-Point Shooting

Image via The Trib

After the shooting debacle against West Virginia, this category is probably fresh in everybody's minds.  However, while Laurence Bowers and Keith Ramsey were responsible for a large portion of Sunday's near-the-hoop misses, they are not to blame for the season's failures.  In 2008-09, DeMarre Carroll shot 57.9% on 2-pointers, Leo Lyons 49.9%.  In 2009-10, Bowers shot 57.2%, Ramsey 58.0%.  Bowers stayed close to the 58.7% he managed in 2008-09, while Ramsey inevitably regressed a bit from his 67.5% of last year -- just from taking more shots, he was going to slide from that high number.

No, Bowers and Ramsey weren't to blame for regression here -- everybody else was.  Sliding into more of Matt Lawrence's role, Kim English shot 41.3% on 2-pointers in 2009-10.  In 2008-09, Lawrence shot 61.9% (English, meanwhile, shot 40.2% last year).  J.T. Tiller regressed from 51.0% to 46.0%, while Zaire Taylor regressed significantly, from 50.4% to a measly 36.8%.  Justin Safford regressed with more playing time, from 51.4% in 2008-09 to 41.8% this season.

What caused this regression?  Potentially the same thing that caused the team's reduction in assists.  Mizzou did not play as high a pace in 2009-10, partially because of trouble on offense and partially because they struggled on defensive rebounding and often needed the guards to stay back and rebound instead of breaking out in transition.  With less transition came less easy buckets.  It's a vicious cycle here -- rebounding, transition, shooting skill ... about 17 different factors played into this, but the bottom line was that Mizzou's 2PT% went down, and it will need to go back up in 2010-11.  Improve in any of those 17 hypothetical categories, and 2PT% should improve at least a little bit.

Turnovers

Image via The Trib

The 2009-10 Tiger offense turned the ball over about one more time per game than its predecessor.  Not a large increase, obviously, but over time that one possession per game can mean quite a bit.    Who was responsible for this increase?  More than anybody else, look to two seniors.  With no extra ball-handling responsibility, J.T. Tiller's turnovers increased by 50%, from 0.18 turnovers per possession in 2008-09 to 0.27 this year.  He got things under control a decent amount as the season progressed, but that is still a significant increase.

Keith Ramsey was also a major culprit in the turnovers increase -- not only did his minutes and touches increase (13.7 MPG and 8.8 'touches' per game* last year to 26.9 MPG and 16.1 'touches' in 2009-10), but his turnover rate did at a similar rate as well -- from 0.12 turnovers per possession to 0.19.

In all, Tiller and Ramsey increased from combining for 2.2 turnovers per game to 4.0, and even though other players like Bowers and Denmon were less turnover-prone than their predecessors, Tiller's and Ramsey's increase negated any gain at other positions.

* 'Touches' are a stat (described here) that I wanted to introduce at the beginning of the season but didn't.  They are defined as an estimate of "the number of times a player touched the ball in an attacking position on the floor," and they are derived from a formula based on assists, turnovers, field goal attempts and free throw attempts. Obviously a player will literally "touch" a ball more than this formula implies, but the goal here is to measure how many times a player touched the ball in position to do something aggressive. It's a pretty sweet stat -- from Touches, we can derive the percentage of time that a player made a good pass, turned the ball over, shot the ball, or got fouled. We will get into this stat more in Part Two of the wrap-up.

Passing

Image via The Trib

Mizzou averaged 2.8 fewer assists per game in 2009-10 than the previous season -- by far the biggest reason for their decrease in BCI.  As I hinted above, I think this was more of a systemic issue than it was due to any one player.  Mizzou did lose two strong interior passers (Carroll and Lyons combined for 4.2 assists per game in 2008-09, while Bowers, Ramsey AND Safford only managed 3.8 in 2009-10), but guards' assist rates sank as well.  J.T. Tiller fell from 0.15 assists per possession to 0.13, Zaire Taylor from 0.13 to 0.09, and Kim English from 0.08 to 0.05.  In all, only Miguel Paul's assist rate didn't fall in 2009-10, but his minutes were obviously not significant enough to reflect much in Mizzou's overall numbers.

In all, I think the trailing off of assists speaks to the two main problems we knew this team might have coming into the season: scoring and rebounding.  We had less overall offensive talent on this squad without Lyons, Carroll and Goooooooooooose, and that meant that, among other things, even if there's a perfect pass, the shot might not go in.  Add that to the fact that, with 1-2 fewer defensive rebounds a night, that mean fewer transition and outlet passes (and, after Mizzou slowed down and crashed the boards with more players to alleviate that problem, almost no transition and outlet passes), Mizzou was simply getting less opportunities for easy shots.  It was all connected, and while maybe the overall passing talent on this team wasn't what it was in 2008-09, I don't think that's the case.  I think the assist totals were more likely the result of other issues.

Where the Tigers got better

Yes, Mizzou was a worse overall team in 2009-10 than in 2008-09.  That was almost unavoidable.  However, there was improvement in some facets of the game, and all three areas below forecast well for the future.

Forcing Turnovers

Image via The Trib

Despite the fewer rebounds (or, in a roundabout way, maybe because of them), Mizzou forced more turnovers this season.  Here is a look at Mizzou's top eight regulars from this season and last, and their Steals Per Possession:

Steals Per Possession
2008-09
J.T. Tiller 0.20
DeMarre Carroll 0.16
Zaire Taylor 0.15
Marcus Denmon 0.15
Keith Ramsey 0.13
Leo Lyons 0.12
Matt Lawrence 0.12
Kim English 0.10
2009-10
Zaire Taylor 0.20
J.T. Tiller 0.19
Keith Ramsey 0.17
Mike Dixon 0.17
Kim English 0.16
Laurence Bowers 0.14
Marcus Denmon 0.12
Justin Safford 0.12


Two of the three new members of the 2009-10 rotation were better thieves than their predecessors (Bowers > Lyons, Dixon > Lawrence), and Taylor, Ramsey and English all improved considerably with another year under their belt.  Mizzou's top three per-possession steals leaders from 2009-10 are gone in 2010-11, but it certainly doesn't seem unheard of that Bowers, Denmon, and maybe others will improve their hands in 2010-11 -- this seems like an area where year-to-year improvement is relatively common.

(And hey, if they only tread water in this regard while grabbing a couple more defensive rebounds, that's fine too.)

3-Point Shooting

Image via The Trib

Here's a category where Mizzou saw slight improvement.  Some shooters stayed basically the same -- Kim English went from 37.3% in 2008-09 to 37.0% in 2009-10, J.T. Tiller went from 23.6% to 22.5%, and even Mizzou's bigs stayed the same, shooting 39.6% in 2008-09 (Carroll, Lyons, Ramsey, Safford, Bowers) and 40.3% in 2009-10 (Bowers, Safford, Ramsey, Moore).

The main reason for improvement was Marcus Denmon.  He shot 30.4% last season, and even with his massive trail-off at the end of the season, he still shot 40.7% this season.  That meant that Mizzou's three most frequent 3-pointer shooters improved from combining for 37.3% last season (Lawrence, Denmon, English) to 38.1% this year (English, Denmon, Taylor).  Teeny, tiny, incremental improvement ... but improvement!  And it obviously would have been significantly higher had Denmon not finished the season missing 14 of his last 15 bombs -- until that slump, he'd been shooting 44.1%.

Free Throw Shooting

Image via The Trib.  And no, it really doesn't have anything to do with FT shooting.

An improvement of 1.5% isn't enough for you?  Well how about a 5.2 improvement?  That's how much Mizzou progressed from the charity stripe in 2009-10, from 67.2% to 72.4%.  (Despite what you may want to believe after the WVU game, Mizzou really was improved from the charity stripe this year.)  Keith Ramsey improved from 35.9% to 64.5%, while Justin Safford improved even more, from 44.4% to 75.8%.  Plus, newbie Mike Dixon entered the grid at 85.7%.  Mizzou's most frequent free throws shooters stayed about the same -- Kim English went from 72.4% to 72.5%, J.T. Tiller from 73.3% to 76.5%, Laurence Bowers from 66.7% to 65.1% -- but Ramsey and Safford dragged Mizzou forward.

Of course, this improvement reveals a regression (don't you hate it when that happens?) -- Mizzou made 871 trips to the line in 2008-09, a rate of 22.9 FT attempts per game.  In 2009-10, that fell to 21.0.  Again, not a huge regression, but over the course of, say, 34 games, that's 65 fewer opportunities for free points.  Last year, Carroll and Lyons combined for 436 FT attempts.  The two main bigs this year -- Bowers and Ramsey -- managed just 145 this year.  HUGE difference.

Remember the "Touches" stat I introduced earlier, and how I said it allowed you to estimate how many of Mizzou's touches were good passes versus shots?  Well, in 2008-09, Mizzou made passes 53.7% of the time, shot 31.0% of the time.  In 2009-10, they passed 48.9% of the time, shot 33.9%.  So at least a couple of times a game, they were shooting instead of passing.  Combined with the fact that 33% of Mizzou's shots were 3-pointers this year (compared to 31% a year ago), you can start to see how maybe Mizzou got fouled a hair less, at least in the act of shooting.  Mizzou sought contact less, especially on the interior, and it cost them at least a couple of opportunities at free points each game.

(Not surprisingly, Mizzou was a whopping 13-1 this season when that %Pass figure went above 50.0%.  Some of that, again, is from easy scoring opportunities, but some of it really may have simply been less passing, more jump-shooting.)

Shot Blocking

Image via The Missourian

From 3.7 per game a year ago to 4.7 this year.  Bowers had 48, Ramsey 38, and Mr. Rec Specs 31.

Year-to-Year Ken Pomeroy Stats

To close, I thought it might be fun to take a look at Mizzou's KenPom.com stats for this season as compared to other seasons in the Mike Anderson era.

2009-10 2008-09 2007-08 2006-07
Pace 55 21 34 11
Mizzou Offense Ranks
2009-10 2008-09 2007-08 2006-07
Efficiency 43 8 41 56
Effective FG% 105 47 137 64
Turnover % 42 6 19 105
Off. Reb. % 126 116 219 243
FTA/FGA 269 172 297 277
Mizzou Defense Ranks
2009-10 2008-09 2007-08 2006-07
Efficiency 17 13 70 73
Effective FG% 50 53 115 161
Turnover % 3 10 65 12
Off. Reb. % 329 248 274 224
FTA/FGA 206 253 293 268


This was by far the slowest-moving Mizzou team Mike Anderson has had, for a variety of reasons discussed in this post and others.  It was basically the 2007-08 team on offense, the 2008-09 team on defense.  Of course, the offensive regression made a boatload of difference.  This team was worse shooting and turning the ball over than either of the last two squads, though they were almost as good at offensive rebounding as they were last year.  They didn't draw enough fouls ... but they rarely have.

On defense, Mizzou forced turnovers at their highest rate yet and posted their best eFG% numbers as well.  They also fouled less than any other Anderson team has here.  Of course, the regression on the defensive glass negated the improvement in other areas.

Next up: Individual stats, and what mattered most to Mizzou.

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how many D-I teams are there?

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by Ausgiano on Mar 23, 2010 3:44 PM CDT reply actions  

347

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by tigers and chiefs fan on Mar 23, 2010 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Is there a stat-formula-etc....

… that measures “streakiness”? I feel like this MU team got really bogged down when it had to trade half-court possessions with teams, walking the ball up, not being able to press, etc. Is there any statkeeping focus that could show (>10pts) to (<3pts) runs, and how often they occurred? Both for and against?

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by TigerBartender on Mar 23, 2010 4:25 PM CDT reply actions  

I don't think so, unfortunately.

I can probably come up with something about game-to-game streakiness, but not necessarily possession-to-possession.

by Bill C. on Mar 23, 2010 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

I know that I heard somewhere that this Mizzou team went scoreless for at least 4 minutes 16 times this year.

Compared to only 6 times last year. 14 of those 16 I believe were in losses.

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by MUTIGERS86 on Mar 23, 2010 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah and three of those was in

THE WORST 13 MINUTES OF MIZZOU BB HISTORY!

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by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Mar 23, 2010 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

That only counts as one. The only games Mizzou has multiple droughts of more than 4 minutes...

Were Richmond, Baylor, KU at home, and Nebraska in the Big 12 tourney.

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by MUTIGERS86 on Mar 23, 2010 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

oh...my bad

my English comprehension skills are about as good as my English speaking skills.

If you’re wondering; Not good.

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by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Mar 23, 2010 6:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Could you do it if you broke it down by a given minute interval?

sorta like the TV timeout round boxing counts.

Like PPP/(a given time frame) every 3min intervals calc the PPP in that amount of time?

…but then if a team had a run that didn’t bracket that completely it would dilute out the rate per time frame…..

Nevermind.

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by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Mar 23, 2010 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't have all the play-by-play.

I would literally have to go back through all the times we did the ‘round-by-round’ thing and … that’s not going to happen. :-)

by Bill C. on Mar 23, 2010 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah, that would be rediculous

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by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Mar 23, 2010 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Lazy.

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by MUTIGERS86 on Mar 23, 2010 6:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

GOD, WHAT DO YOU EVER DO FOR THIS SITE?!?

/guy who averages a cool 0.25 front page posts per quarter.

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by ghtd36 on Mar 23, 2010 7:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Something I was going to mention in an e-mail, but I figure it would be a lot more fun to do it here.

When football season rolls around, we need to have an RMN Day. Tailgate. Meet and greet. Everclear drinking competition.

Thoughts, community?

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by ghtd36 on Mar 23, 2010 7:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

And the fact that I couldn't make it to the Spring Game.

Yeah, I’m selfish, big whoop, wanna fight about it?

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by ghtd36 on Mar 23, 2010 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

ill be 21 in october!

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by muwxman on Mar 23, 2010 9:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

My "Shill Rating" (adjusted per post)

Is probably creeping up into the “annoying” range, so I won’t mention the name of the establishment where I sling brews & cocktails… but I would be willing to open up early at a pre-determined time (hopefully for one of the non-conf games, where my saturday won’t be completely crazy) for an RMN get together.

If that helps.

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by TigerBartender on Mar 23, 2010 9:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

I've wondered

if I were to make into Columbia for a game, if I could swing by the tailgate with Bill and Beef and RPT and whomever, but then thought…‘that could be construed as weird, since I talk to you all through the interwebs’ (though I may have seen Bill in the Med School and not known it).

BUT…if there were a RMN day, it wouldn’t be weird.

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by Ausgiano on Mar 23, 2010 9:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

that would be pretty fun

Except the Everclear drinking competition would turn into an Everclear first person to the emergency room competition. I think it would be similar to the Amazing Race, except minus the Amazing.

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by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Mar 24, 2010 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

perhaps we just burn stuff

with Everclear?

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by Ausgiano on Mar 24, 2010 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nailed it on the head

I observed the same thing, but agree that it would be difficult to quantify. That’s why we’ve all been screaming for the team to be more aggressive to the baskets in those situations instead of just putting up jumpers.

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by totalloser on Mar 24, 2010 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Question for ya Bill...

What kind of impact do you think Pressey/Mitchell will have for us next season? (Im guessing your gonna cover this question in a later part of this series)

And kind of OT but what do you think are MU’s chance of knabbing Ricardo Ratliffe from JUCO?

by KCTiger on Mar 23, 2010 7:34 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Until somebody leaves, I'm not taking Ratliffe seriously...

…though obviously a top-notch JUCO big wouldn’t be the worst get in the world. Until somebody leaves and we have a scholarship open, however, I’m going to assume he doesn’t end up here. If something comes open, you have to like our chances since he’s indeed coming to campus and we’ve been more recently successful than a lot of the teams recruiting him. Sounds like Arkansas and Alabama are going to be tough to beat, but I like our chances … if we have a schollie open.

by Bill C. on Mar 23, 2010 7:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

where would it come from?

although the chances of one of paul/stone/underwood transferring are about 30%, we still won’t be able to bank on that.

by stlcardinalsfang on Mar 23, 2010 7:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

It would almost have to be a transfer...

…presumably one of those three. And since we haven’t actually heard any rumors about any of them (we’re all making assumptions based on their playing time), then there’s no reason to take it too seriously until we hear something for sure.

by Bill C. on Mar 23, 2010 8:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Isn't Sutton under scholarship?

Since he was a walk-on, could they pull it?

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by Ausgiano on Mar 23, 2010 9:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

I had asked the same thing before...

but then realized that the math includes Sutton vacating his scholarship. We’re at full scholarships this year, -JT, -Zaire, -Keith by graduation, -Sutton by design, +Mitchell, +Pressey, +Kreklow, +Green = full scholarships again.

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by Other Side of the Pillow on Mar 23, 2010 9:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ah that's a shame.

The dude looks an awfully lot like JYD, and is a scrapper it looks like too.

by KCTiger on Mar 23, 2010 10:13 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

If I am the coaching staff, I try to get Kreklow free tuition (Parents are Coaches after all).

Use his Schollie for Ratliffe (or Ratliffe knockoff).

/completely ignorant to NCAA regulations that might forbid this move though.

The sleeper has awoken. . .awakened. . .he woke up.

by SleepyFloyd7 on Mar 23, 2010 10:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

or just bump the Kreklow's salaries to offset the cost of Ricky's tuition.

I’m just here to help folks. I’ll even advise you on how to hide money from the IRS.

The sleeper has awoken. . .awakened. . .he woke up.

by SleepyFloyd7 on Mar 23, 2010 10:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not sure of the rules either...

…but I think once you’ve officially “offered” them a scholarship, then your hands are severely tied in terms of actually having to give them that scholarship. I’m all for it if it’s legal … but I’m not sure it’s anywhere close to legal.

by Bill C. on Mar 24, 2010 5:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

did Goose come here on an academic ride?

Sleepy’s right. If your parents are employee’s for x-years, dependents get a heavy discount on tuition. Room and board is still an issue, but he’s could live at home (or just pay out of pocket). Then he’d be a preferred walk-on (I believe that’s the parlance).

However, Bill’s also right. As far as i know, the letter of intent sounds like a binding contract. We’ll need RMN’s team of crack lawyers for his one.

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by Ausgiano on Mar 24, 2010 8:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

RMN's team of lawyers...

…that’s basically Atch and TB from Bring on the Cats, right?

by Bill C. on Mar 24, 2010 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

there's T/C fan

she’s in court all the time, so I reckon she’s a lawyer. Maybe just a career criminal.

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by Ausgiano on Mar 24, 2010 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

A rail thin 6-7 forward with length

See Bowers, Laurence for a physical comparison. However he shredded his achilles this winter, so I’m not sure where he is with that recovery.

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"What's misunderstood about you?"
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by Transmogrified Tiger on Mar 24, 2010 7:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

He might be a hair taller than Bowers...

Rivals has him listed at 6’8 (which probably means he’ll be “listed” at 6’9 when he gets here, ahem), but yeah … he’s this class’s Bowers/Stone/Underwood — lanky guy with hops and length. I’ll take one of those in every class, really.

by Bill C. on Mar 24, 2010 8:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

If Ratliffe wants to come here...

He will be here. Scholarships ALWAYS find a way to open up if a coach really wants one. And I’ll just leave it at that.

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by MUTIGERS86 on Mar 24, 2010 8:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

you going to force someone out or something

if the scholarship isn’t there, it isn’t there. it’s not like you can tell someone to take a walk.

by stlcardinalsfang on Mar 24, 2010 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

Technically you CAN tell them that...

…since scholarships are technically only rewarded on a year-to-year basis. But it is EXTREMELY poor practice to do it, and that’s why nobody (directly) does it.

by Bill C. on Mar 24, 2010 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

yeah...i just skipped the whole technical part

i mean, do we really think CMA would tell tyler stone that he’s going to have to walk on and/or quit the team because he wants ratliffe to take his place?

by stlcardinalsfang on Mar 24, 2010 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

First, I want to say that at some times this year I was very disappointed in how little Miguel Paul played.

He didn’t play against West Virginia and I can remember a couple of other games where he didn’t get on the floor at all. Whenever he comes in he can really put in some energy (remember against KSU when he hit two big threes in the first half and played very well when Taylor was in foul trouble). He did have some bad games like against A&M but overall I thought he was a good player and had a very good season.

Also, Stoggles was an absolute monster this year and I really hope that both he and Miguel Paul get significant playing time next year, as I think both will improve their game by a lot this summer.

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by StopSpe on Mar 23, 2010 9:09 PM CDT reply actions  

Any CMA sightings @ the UAB/UNC game?

Just curious. Bedtimes for the chittlins just wound down and fired up the 360.com…

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by TigerBartender on Mar 23, 2010 9:29 PM CDT reply actions  

No, they don't let him back in.

They’re so angry that he left for a big conference, a step up from UAB with more pay.

"Don't settle for mediocrity. Be better than the best. Strive to become legendary at everything you do."
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by StopSpe on Mar 23, 2010 9:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

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