2009-10 Season Wrap-up (Part Seven): Mike Anderson vs Nolan Richardson
Part One: The Team Stats
Part Two: The Player Stats and Style Doppelgangers
Part Three: More Doppelgangers - The Scorers
Part Four: More Doppelgangers - The Distributors
Part Five: Final Doppelgangers - The Backup Bigs (and Sutton)
Part Six: What Mattered Most?

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One of my favorite pieces I've written on Rock M was last year's two-part series comparing Mike Anderson to Nolan Richardson after three years (Part One, Part Two). Most of the conclusions I reached then are still valid now, but I thought it would be interesting to update things for the year that just finished. Below, we will take a look at each coach's program stats after four seasons and dip our toes into the recruiting waters, just like we did last year.
Nolan vs Anderson: First Four Years
| First Four Years at the Second Job |
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| Nolan Richardson | Mike Anderson |
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Arkansas' 5 previous years: 1985-86: 12-16 77-46 (0.626) |
Mizzou's 5 previous years: 2006-07: 18-12 88-46 (0.657) |
It bears repeating that Richardson took over a program in much greater health than the one Anderson took over, and he landed a McDonald's All-American (Ron Heury) in his first full recruiting class. After two years of treading water (it happened for both coaches at both schools), Anderson has gone 54-18 (0.750 win%) the last two years, with four NCAA Tourney wins. Richardson, meanwhile, managed a slightly lesser record (46-16, 0.742) and only one NCAA Tourney win in Years 3-4. The health of each program was obvious in both cases, but one can still make a damn strong case that Anderson's program is in better shape moving forward than Richardson's was after four seasons.
That's startling to think about considering what came next for Richardson -- in Year #5 (1989-90), Arkansas broke into the big-time, going 30-5 and blazing through Princeton, Dayton, North Carolina and Texas on the way to the Final Four (for more highlights from that season, click here). This began a rather sickening six-year span at Arkansas -- from 1989-90 to 1994-95, Arkansas went 175-36 (0.829, 4-2 against Mizzou, for what it's worth), and their year-by-year tourney success went as follows: 1990 Final Four, 1991 Elite Eight, 1992 Second Round, 1993 Sweet Sixteen, 1994 NCAA Champion, 1995 Runner-Up. Damn.
In other words, if Anderson wants to keep up with his mentor, he's going to have to kick it up a notch rather quickly.
Team Stats
Let's take a look at how the two coaches' programs filled out the box score in their first four seasons.
| Arkansas (1985-89) |
Missouri (2006-10) |
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| Hogs |
Opp. | Mizzou |
Opp. | |
| Possessions Per Game |
75.8 | 71.7 | ||
| Points Per Possession (PPP) |
1.03 | 0.94 | 1.10 | 0.96 |
| Points Per Shot (PPS) |
1.28 | 1.22 | 1.27 | 1.23 |
| 2-PT FG% | 49.3% | 46.0% | 51.1% | 47.1% |
| 3-PT FG% | 36.1% | 35.8% | 35.7% | 32.6% |
| FT% | 67.7% | 66.8% | 69.2% | 69.3% |
| True Shooting % | 54.2% | 51.7% | 55.3% | 52.3% |
| Hogs | Opp. | Mizzou | Opp. | |
| Assists/Gm | 14.4 | 14.4 | 16.6 | 12.1 |
| Steals/Gm | 9.4 | 6.2 | 9.9 | 6.4 |
| Turnovers/Gm | 15.4 | 18.2 | 13.1 | 18.4 |
| BCI | 1.55 | 1.13 | 2.03 | 1.00 |
| Hogs | Opp. | Mizzou | Opp. | |
| Rebounds/Gm. | 37.0 | 36.9 | 35.5 | 37.4 |
| Exp. Reb./Gm. |
36.9 | 37.0 | 36.5 | 36.5 |
| Margin | -0.1 | +0.1 | -1.0 | +0.9 |
I wish Ken Pomeroy's stats went back into the 1980s, as I'm curious how fast Arkansas' 76-possession pace really was. This was the height of the fast break style that overcame just about all of the Big 8 and SWC at the time -- from 1987 to 1992, Mizzou averaged at least 75 possessions every year (including an absurd 79.2 in 1988-89). In context, Arkansas' pace might not have been much faster than a lot of teams in that day, but the pressure still made them unique.
In their first four years, Richardson's teams rebounded better, while Anderson's teams controlled the ball better, forcing more turnovers despite fewer possessions and racking up quite a few more assists.
So what about the last two seasons, when each program made its move?
| Arkansas (1987-89) |
Missouri (2008-10) |
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| Hogs |
Opp. | Mizzou |
Opp. | |
| Possessions Per Game |
76.2 | 71.0 | ||
| Points Per Possession (PPP) |
1.08 | 0.93 | 1.12 | 0.94 |
| Points Per Shot (PPS) |
1.31 | 1.21 | 1.28 | 1.19 |
| 2-PT FG% | 51.7% | 45.5% | 50.4% | 46.0% |
| 3-PT FG% | 36.4% | 36.7% | 36.0% | 30.9% |
| FT% | 67.4% | 67.9% | 69.5% | 68.7% |
| True Shooting % | 55.9% | 51.9% | 55.2% | 50.9% |
| Hogs | Opp. | Mizzou | Opp. | |
| Assists/Gm | 15.8 | 13.9 | 16.9 | 11.6 |
| Steals/Gm | 10.4 | 5.8 | 10.6 | 6.1 |
| Turnovers/Gm | 14.5 | 19.6 | 12.2 | 18.8 |
| BCI | 1.81 | 1.01 | 2.24 | 0.94 |
| Hogs | Opp. | Mizzou | Opp. | |
| Rebounds/Gm. | 37.2 | 36.0 | 35.9 | 37.5 |
| Exp. Reb./Gm. |
39.6 | 33.7 | 36.7 | 36.8 |
| Margin | +2.4 | -2.3 | +0.8 | -0.7 |
As each team was advancing in the world of college basketball, their differences over Years 3-4 are the same as they were in the Years 1-4 table above -- Arkansas was a much better rebounding team than Missouri has been, but Mizzou has inflicted the Fastest 40 Minutes even more on their opponents, putting together a much better BCI margin and holding opponents to a worse True Shooting percentage. Anderson has taken the 40 Minutes of Hell and sped them up somehow.
Per-Touch Splits
Arkansas (1987-89): 48.3% Pass, 32.8% Shoot, 11.4% Fouled, 7.5% Turnover
Opponents (1987-89): 45.8% Pass, 32.4% Shoot, 10.8% Fouled, 11.0% Turnover
Missouri (2008-10): 51.5% Pass, 32.3% Shoot, 9.9% Fouled, 6.3% Turnover
Opponents (2008-10): 42.0% Pass, 34.6% Shoot, 11.8% Fouled, 11.6% Turnover
Missouri's offense is a little more based around ball movement than Arkansas' was -- their style seems to have been a little more physical, with both more fouls drawn and more turnovers committed.
Recruiting
In part two of last year's Nolan-vs-Anderson posts, I asked the following question: how much big-time talent would it take for Missouri to establish themselves as a consistently great program like Arkansas was from about 1989 through 1995? To begin to answer this question, I looked at the number of McDonald's All-Americans Richardson signed at Arkansas -- it was basically the only tool I had to evaluate recruiting at that time, as Rivals.com did not yet exist (nor did any .com for that matter). I came up with the following table:
| # McD's AA's | Avg Win % | Avg Postseason Wins |
| 0 | 0.529 | 0.00 |
| 1 | 0.662 | 0.83 |
| 2 | 0.814 | 3.20 |
| 3 | 0.707 | 1.90 |
| Correlation to AA's: | 0.75 | 0.75 |
The general conclusion was that Richardson basically needed about two top-notch recruits and a whole bunch of athletic role players to succeed at a high level. He got a jump on Anderson by bringing in Todd Day and Lee Mayberry before his fourth season. Anderson, meanwhile, seems to have gotten the ball rolling with recruits, though it took until this year for some blue-chippers to come in the door. Neither Phil Pressey nor Tony Mitchell was named McDonald's All-Americans, but that is not as important now -- Rivals.com has Mitchell listed as a 5-star recruit, which is more or less the same thing as a McD's AA. Pressey came in pretty high himself. Whether they are Anderson's Mayberry & Day remains to be seen, of course, but there is no question that things have begun to see an uptick in the recruiting department (and this says nothing of the JUCO All-American visiting Columbia in early-April). Anderson has already won at a higher level than his sensei ever did with no blue-chippers, but now the blue-chippers are taking notice.
Conclusion
Here's how I concluded last year's Nolan-vs-Anderson posts:
It's ironic that Nolan Richardson was the one who delivered one of this year's classic quotes ("Lots of guys have agents and cousins that want them to go to the NBA. They complain about not getting enough touches. Mike doesn’t want that. He doesn’t need to go out and sign a bunch of McDonald’s All-Americans. He just needs to go find a few Burger King-type guys and he’ll get it done.") considering Richardson himself never had much success with a roster full of only "Burger King-types." Even he seems to acknowledge that Anderson doesn't need as much top-flight talent as he did to succeed.
Basically, the whole 'blue chip' debate comes down to one thing: Mike Anderson took Mizzou to 31 wins, a Big 12 tourney title, and the Elite Eight with no players who even resembled blue chip recruits. If Anderson were to start landing a few, would it hurt the underdog, blue-collar chemistry of the team, or would it launch Missouri into the top tier of college basketball programs? People have different opinions, and there's no way to prove anybody correct or incorrect, but that's pretty much the center of the debate.
As I've mentioned many times regarding football recruiting, the star ratings and blue-chip concept revolve around margins for error and probabilities for success. A 5-star recruit has a pretty high probability of success, while each progressive star down has less. You can succeed with 3-star kids, but can you always succeed with them? Or do you need the occasional big-time recruit? Does Mike Anderson have such a great grasp of his Fastest 40 Minutes style that he really simply does not need any blue-chippers?
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There's nothing better than succeeding with a bunch of likable underdogs who play with a chip on their shoulder against schools that didn't recruit them. If Mizzou never lands a 5-star recruit and fields a roster of JUCO transfers and 3-star players with ridiculous athletic ability and unique skill sets, I'll never stop enjoying watching them play, even if they're not quite as good as they were in 2008-09. (And besides, Mizzou only landed Kim English because they missed out on Travis Releford and/or Scott Suggs. Recruiting successes aren't always successes, and failures aren't always failures.) I know that Anderson will squeeze every drop of talent out of every player he's got, and chances are Missouri will be a pretty damn good team no matter what.
But if they did want to go out and land their own Todd Day (man, I was frightened of that guy) or Corliss Williamson, I'd take my chances with them too.
A year later, it does look like Mike Anderson is more than capable of throwing his weight around in the recruiting arena, and after holding steady and making the Round of 32 during what was supposed to be a rebuilding season, he stayed ahead of his mentor in terms of overall program trajectory. When Nolan Richardson made the Final Four in Year #5 in Arkansas, it was during two All-American recruits' sophomore seasons. Next year, Mizzou's two highest-rated recruits will only be freshmen; whether Mizzou might have to wait until 2011-12 to expect major, major things, we'll see. But against one of the more successful coaches of the last 30 years, Anderson is more than holding his own, and it is, to say the least, a very exciting time to be a fan of this Missouri basketball program.
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A couple of things to consider.
I was wondering as I read this how fast Richardson was able to turn over his roster to get to “his guys?” Anderson basically walked into a full roster of underclassmen that one could argue delayed his improvement by a year.
Secondly, I would submit that the tournament results may have been a bit different if this year’s team had a Corliss Willamson type presence on the inside for some low post scoring and double digit rebounding in addition to the Bowers/Ramsey types. That is the type of player that Anderson has yet to land as a recruit to this point.
It's definitely worth noting...
…that in his first full year of recruiting, Anderson only had one scholarship to give (the one that went to Safford). Coaches are usually more quickly able to bring in their own guys.
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that is a great point for giving Anderson more time to get his "system" installed
I do have a question/thought;
Anderson already has three more NCAA wins, and a little bit higher over all winning percentage, with the handicap you mentioned above.
Do you think Coach Anderson has been able to do this because of the general landscape of college basketball he now faces compared to his mentor? (many teams have not seen this type of defense)
Sure these aren’t large differences but it is interesting with the increase of parity in college basketball I would have thought it would be more difficult for a coach to establish a program.
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by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Mar 30, 2010 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Disclaimer : I am not under the impression that Mizzou is established fully yet
I like the way things are going.
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by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Mar 30, 2010 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, we already know CMA is the better dresser hands down.
For some reason, I distinctively remember watching #1 UNLV take on #2 Arkansas in Fayetteville in the early 90s when I was a young buck. Strange.
Great post, Bill. As usual.
How do we have room for a JUCO transfer?
I thought we were maxed out on scholarships. Anyone able to clarify?
Nobody really knows.
We seem to almost certainly be pursuing another recruit, as either a fifth scholarship for this class or as a fall-back if somebody transfers or doesn’t qualify, but nobody knows for sure. We’re getting a visit from Ricardo Ratliffe in a couple of weeks, however, and it appears he has an offer, one way or the other. The pieces will probably come together in the coming weeks, but nobody truly knows how we think we have a scholarship to give right now.
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In football, it's seemingly easy to squeeze another guy into the picture...
…but in basketball, with only 13 scholarships, it’s a lot more difficult. Either somebody has to transfer (everybody assumes either Paul or Underwood/Stone), or somebody walks on (everybody assumes Kreklow), that’s about it.
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Kreklow can't walk on
Once he’s signed a Letter of Intent, the program is required to put him on scholarship for a year (I’m all but certain of that).
by Michael Atchison on Mar 30, 2010 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Did Green sign an LOI?
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by UribeAuction on Mar 30, 2010 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions
speculative question...
Is it possible that, say, Player A earns academic scholarships that free up an athletic scholarship for Player B?
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
"Academic scholarships"
The whole discussion of academic scholarships is a myth. There are many, many academic scholarships to be had, and 99.995% of them pale in comparison to a full athletic scholarship, and they don’t cover some of the things that are a big bonus for athletes (training table, for one). And again, once the player signs a letter of intent, as long as he participates in the sport, he counts toward the scholarship limit in his first year on campus:
http://www.ncaa.org/wps/wcm/connect/nli/NLI/Frequently+Asked+Questions/Signing+the+National+Letter+of+Intent/If+I+am+going+to+walk+on+to+the+team,+may+I+sign+a+National+Letter+of+Intent
by Michael Atchison on Mar 30, 2010 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Juco for a year
Is it possible Green might go Juco for a year while he rehabs from surgery . . . then activates his scholarship offer next year?
Anything is possible
Assuming he’s qualified, I think the more likely option would be to go to prep school for a year. It doesn’t start his five-year clock, and it doesn’t burn a year of eligibility. At that point, though, he’s a recruitable athlete (that would also be true if he went to juco). He’s not bound to Mizzou, and Mizzou isn’t bound to him.
by Michael Atchison on Mar 30, 2010 7:21 PM CDT up reply actions
so...
by stlcardinalsfang on Mar 30, 2010 2:42 PM CDT reply actions
It's certainly possible.
A starting lineup consisting of three juniors with a lot of tournament experience, a sophomore who had substantial playing time his first year and has some tourney experience, and then a senior with a lot of tourney experience. Our bench will have players like Steve, Pressey, Big Tony (Mitchell), Miguel Paul, Kreklow, Kadeem Green (unless injury keeps him out, I’m not sure), and even Stone or Underwood could get substantial playing time. This is all assuming our starting line-up is Dixon, Denmon, English, Bowers, Safford.
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Holy Crap
We go from no front court depth to lots of front court depth. You know who this reminds me of? A younger version of K-State this year. Think about it…a couple of guards who can torch the nets (Denmon, Dixon/English) and a plethora of talented front court men. Very intriguing. The best part is…this nucleus will be together for at least two more years.
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by MissouriMarine on Mar 30, 2010 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions
And then even after this sophomore class (this past season) graduates...
You still have Dixon, Mitchell, Pressey, Kreklow, and maybe Kadeem Green (who is a huge question mark in my mind) all really playing well and keeping everything together along with underclassmen.
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this is all true
in fact, while i’m expecting big, big things this next year, 2011-2012 is the year i’m REALLY excited to see. mizzou could be SICK that year.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Mar 30, 2010 4:53 PM CDT up reply actions
RICARDO RATLIFFE
OH GIMME GIMME GIMME.
It's not the size of the dog in the fight; it's the size of the fight in the dog.
- Mark Twain
I feel bad about asking for Ratliffe so much.
If we really want him, that means we have to get rid of one of my favorite players, Miguel Paul, or two guys like Tyler Stone and John Underwood who I think could be really good.
"Don't settle for mediocrity. Be better than the best. Strive to become legendary at everything you do."
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