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Ricardo Ratliffe, Matt Pressey, and Updated Big 12 Projections

There are times when recruiting junior college players seems like going for the quick fix.  You have a hole in your program that you haven't properly addressed with four-year players, and you need to plug it.  Some coaches manage to consistently find breakthrough talent at the JUCO level -- Bob Huggins at Cincy obviously comes to mind, not to mention Bill Snyder if we're veering into football -- but for the most part, it's not a very successful long-term strategy.

But when you're 1-2 pieces away, you have two high school All Americans (or at least near All-Americans), and you have a large foundation of four-year talent ready to break through as upperclassmen?  That's the perfect time to bring in a JUCO or two to shore up previous weaknesses.  Mizzou needed more of a scoring presence on the inside, and for depth purposes, they needed potentially one more combo guard who was strong on defense ... and this weekend, in Ricardo Ratliffe and Matt Pressey, they got both.

Today we're going to both update my ongoing Big 12 2010-11 projections and take a further look into Pressey's and Ratliffe's stats to figure out reasonable expectations for next season.  (And to be sure, the updated projections are far from reasonable.  They're downright over-exuberant.)

Minutes and Updated Projections

For debate purposes, below I'm including the projected minutes per game I used to determine the overall scoring.  Players in bold averaged 20+ MPG in 2009-10, and this is my best stab at how minute distribution might look.  Suddenly there is major competition for the post minutes, with Steve Moore now potentially drawing no more minutes than he did last season, but I guess that's a good problem to have, eh?

(For visitors, in this post is an explanation of what the heck "AdjGS" is and how it is used here.)

Player 09-10
AdjGS/Min.
Proj.
AdjGS/Min.
Proj.
Min.
Proj.
AdjGS/Gm.
Laurence Bowers (6'8, 205, Jr.) 0.54 0.52 24.9 13.9
Marcus Denmon (6'3, 185, Jr.) 0.45 0.46 26.6 11.9
Kim English (6'6, 200, Jr.) 0.41 0.43 25.5 11.6
Ricardo Ratliffe (6'8, 226, Jr.) N/A 0.44 24.4 1.8
Mike Dixon (6'1, 175, So.) 0.40 0.38 21.4 9.0
Justin Safford (6'8, 230, Sr.) 0.37 0.36 16.8 7.2
Tony Mitchell (6'8, 220, Fr.) N/A 0.35 16.9 6.9
Matt Pressey (6'2, 185, Jr.) N/A 0.38 11.7 2.1
Phil Pressey (5'10, 160, Fr.) N/A 0.28 11.8 5.6
Steve Moore (6'9, 264, Jr.) 0.13 0.25 10.6 3.4
TOTAL 79.9
LAST YEAR
77.3
DIFFERENCE +2.6


Previous Projected Difference: -0.7 the first time, -3.7 the second time.

As a whole, I tried to give the projected starters 20+ minutes, but the overall distribution was rather difficult considering Mizzou has 12 interesting pieces next year.  I gave John Underwood 5.1 MPG and Ricky Kreklow 4.3.  Let me know if something seems entirely incorrect about somebody's minutes.

Oh, and Mizzou now has eight players projected at 0.35 AdjGS/Min. or higher.  Oklahoma has zero.  Just thought I'd throw that in there.

As you remember from previous projections posts, I stayed extremely conservative with the per-minute projections, to the point where every team in the conference was projected to regress.  No longer.  While a dropoff in team defense is still likely, the offense and rebounding now look to improve to enough of a degree that Mizzou is projected to improve by 2.6 points.  Yikes.

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Adjustments and Predictions

Once again, adjustments need to be made so that the total difference +/- is 0.0.  Here are the raw differences between last year and next year, along with adjusted differences.  I have added a rather arbitrary team defense component, however -- based on my knowledge of who were the better defenders in the conference this past season, I have added or subtracted up to three points based on whether I think the team's defense will improve or regress next year.  This tamps down the numbers for the top couple of teams by a bit, but the overall projected hierarchy doesn't change.

Team Raw Diff. Def. Adj. New Diff.
Adj. Diff.
Missouri +2.6 -3 -0.4 +6.0
Kansas State -3.7 +1 -2.7 +3.6
Nebraska -4.7 +1 -3.7 +2.6
Kansas -2.1 -2 -4.1 +2.3
Colorado -4.9 +1 -3.9 +2.5
Texas Tech -5.1 +1 -4.1 +2.3
Iowa State -6.6 0 -6.6 -0.2
Texas A&M -7.0 0 -7.0 -0.7
Oklahoma State -9.7 +1 -8.7 -2.3
Texas -11.0 +2 -9.0 -2.6
Baylor -7.2 -2 -9.2 -2.9
Oklahoma -16.8 0 -16.8 -10.4
TOTAL -76.3 0.0 -76.3 +0.0


Before making the defensive adjustment, Mizzou's projection was 14-2, and ... well, the thought of that made me black out for a second, so we can't have that.  Even at "only" +6.0, the upgrade is quite noticeable.  Meanwhile, I deduct points from Kansas and Baylor for the loss of Cole Aldrich and the expected loss of Ekpe Udoh.  If Udoh returns, then Baylor's projection looks MUCH different.

This defensive adjustment also does Kansas State a favor, as the likely return of all of their bigs, plus big, strong wing guys like Jamar Samuels, is just a frightening proposition.

2010-11 Projected Standings
Team Adj. Diff. 2009-10
Conf. Pt.
Margin
"New" Pt.
Margin
Proj.
Record
Kansas +2.3 +12.4 +14.7 15-1
Missouri +6.0 +3.8 +9.8 13-3
Kansas State +3.6 +6.0 +9.6 13-3
Baylor -2.9 +6.6 +3.7 10-6
Texas A&M -0.7 +3.2 +2.5 9-7
Texas -2.6 +3.1 +0.5 8-8
Oklahoma State -2.3 +2.2 -0.1 8-8
Colorado +2.5 -4.6 -2.1 7-9
Iowa State -0.2 -5.8 -6.0 5-11
Texas Tech +2.3 -8.6 -6.3 5-11
Nebraska +2.6 -10.1 -7.5 4-12
Oklahoma -10.4 -8.1 -18.5 0-16


If you add up everybody's record, you'll see that it's actually 97-95 instead of 96-96 ... that's because OU was actually projected to win -1 games and lose 17.  I don't say this often, but ... LOL.  As I've mentioned before, when they actually grab a couple more commits and I don't have to give almost 20 MPG to a walk-on, they'll improve ... slightly.

As other teams (Kansas, Oklahoma, etc.) grab another commit or two, and as future plans for players like Udoh and Avery Bradley become official, we'll update these projections once again, but for now things are relatively set.  The North is projected to go 18 games over .500, and KU, MU and KSU are projected to go 41-7 (and considering they'll go a total of 6-6 versus each other, that means they're projected to go 35-1 versus the rest of the conference).  Wow.  I think I just found your primary 2010-11 storyline.

Now let's look a little further into the stats of Mizzou's two most recent commits.

Pressey

The YouTube pickings were slim on Pressey, so here's the same clip I'm pretty sure has been posted before.

Matt Pressey 2009-10 Navarro College
PPG RPG APG TOPG SPG BCI BPG PFPG
17.0 3.8 2.7 2.0 2.1 2.42 0.3 1.8
PPS* 2PT% 3PT% FT% FTA/FGA 3PT/FGA
1.30 45.0% 34.8% 69.3% 0.39 0.29
%Pass %Shoot %Fouled %TO
43.9% 38.5% 12.1% 5.5%
OR%** DR%
0.04 0.08

*PPS = Points Per Shot
** OR% and DR% include my own estimates for minutes per game, since I couldn't find that data.

Obviously JUCO stats tend to be inflated a bit -- while almost every team on the schedule probably has some Division I talent, not all of it is at that level -- so we should probably apply a bit of a damper to some of Pressey's stats.  Let's say that at the D1 level, he'll probably actually shoot only about 40% on 2-pointers and 30% on 3-pointers. Even with that damper, these are some relatively intriguing stats.  For one thing, he gets to the line a lot for a guard.  For another, his per-touch figures (and rebounding rates) are actually quite similar to Marcus Denmon's, except his %shoot figure is lower, his %fouled higher.  In other words, he tends to play how we wish Denmon would sometimes play.

Also like Denmon, Pressey is not a great free throw shooter, but his value lies in the mid-range and physical game.  He has a low 3PT/FGA for a guard -- last year, Denmon's 3PT/FGA was 0.61, Kim English 0.46, and Zaire Taylor 0.49.  His 0.29 3PT/FGA is a direct cross between that of J.T. Tiller (0.18) and Mike Dixon (0.39).

What can be expected of Pressey in 2010-11?  I'm thinking he'll draw between 8 and 15 MPG based on how good a defender he is.  His 2.1 steals per game are reason for optimism, but we'll see.  As I've said multiple times, there is floor time available for a good defender -- Dixon was behind the curve defensively as a freshman, and the losses of Taylor, Tiller and now Paul are all detrimental to the team's backcourt defense.  If Pressey can just deliver solid FG% defense, nab a steal every now and then, make open shots, and maybe lower his shoulder Tiller-style and draw a foul occasionally, then he is exactly what this team needs coming off the bench.  I don't see a starting role in his future, but he could be a perfect complement to the other guards' strengths and weaknesses.

Then there's the big fish.

Ratliffe

Central Florida posted roughly 1,000,000 ten-second clips of Ratliffe, but I found no sustained highlight video.  So here he is breaking the school scoring record.

Ricardo Ratliffe
2009-10 Central Florida Community College
PPG RPG APG TOPG SPG BCI BPG PFPG
27.4 11.3 2.3 1.7 0.8 1.80 1.0 3.3
PPS 2PT% 3PT% FT% FTA/FGA 3PT/FGA
1.62 66.7% 44.1% 66.3% 0.43 0.14
%Pass %Shoot %Fouled %TO
35.4% 44.5% 15.6% 4.5%
OR% DR%
0.13 0.19


It goes without saying that Ratliffe's JUCO stats were positively insane.  He played big minutes, rarely missed near the hoop (67% on 2-pointers!!!!), drew constant fouls, shot decently from the free throw line, grabbed every board in the vicinity, and played decent defense (at least in terms of steals and blocks).  But those are JUCO stats.  There are plenty of solid big men in the Big 12 -- the Morris twins, maybe Udoh, Quincy Acy, Curtis Kelly, Wally Judge, David Loubeau, Jordan Hamilton, Matt Pilgrim, Marshall Moses, Jorge Brian Diaz, LaRon Dendy, etc. -- and there is no question that his overall percentages will go down.  But ... how much?  If he drops by 10% in both 2-pointers (down to 57%) and 3-pointers (down to 34%) and doesn't get fouled quite as much, he is STILL going to put up some extremely efficient offensive numbers.

Perhaps one of the more encouraging aspects to Ratliffe's game is the amount he passes.  His %pass of 35.4% is barely lower than that of Laurence Bowers (39.8%) and Justin Safford (39.3%), he averaged more than two assists per game, and he had an extremely low %TO considering how much he had to have touched the ball to get to 27 PPG.  You watch a lot of his 10-second YouTube clips, and you get the impression that his best skill is really just playing in control.  He makes things look really easy, and as Mizzou fans, we should know just how hard putbacks and near-the-basket-in-traffic shots can be.  If he shoots anywhere near the same efficient rates in the Big 12, makes smart passes, and blocks out, then ... well, to say he is exactly what Mizzou was missing in 2009-10 is an understatement.

Before we ratchet expectations up too high, let's take a look at how other 4-star (according to Rivals) JUCO PF's have done in recent years.  Rivals does not give 4-star ratings to too many JUCOs, so the list isn't as large as you may think.

Attempting to limit the list to players who at least somewhat resembled Ratliffe's size (6'7 to 6'9, 210-240 pounds), I came up with only twelve 4-star players since 2002: Laron Dendy (Iowa State), Gary Flowers (Southern Miss), Jamal Nichols (DePaul), Carl Landry (Purdue), Taj Gray (Oklahoma), E.J. Drayton (Charlotte), Jeremiah Massey (Kansas State), Michael Bell (FAU), Yakhouba Diawara (Pepperdine), Jaime Lloreda (LSU), Rodney Tucker (Auburn), and Jamar Smith (Maryland).

Below are the first-year stats for the aforementioned 12 JUCOs:

Player (Season) Team MPG PPG FG% RPG APG TOPG SPG BPG
LaRon Dendy (2009-10) Iowa State 16.3 7.3 60.0% 3.6 0.4 0.7 0.6 1.3
Gary Flowers (2009-10) Southern Miss 31.3 15.0 46.5% 8.3 1.4 2.5 0.8 1.8
Jamal Nichols (2004-05) DePaul 14.4 3.5 45.0% 3.3 0.2 1.0 0.6 0.8
Carl Landry (2004-05) Purdue 30.3 18.2 61.8% 7.1 1.2 2.6 0.8 0.7
Taj Gray (2004-05) Oklahoma 27.7 14.6 55.7% 8.2 1.5 2.4 1.2 1.8
E.J. Drayton (2004-05) Charlotte 22.8 8.7 36.7% 4.6 1.2 1.4 0.5 0.2
Jeremiah Massey (2003-04) Kansas State 27.8 14.7 49.7% 7.8 1.2 1.9 1.0 0.6
Mike Bell (2003-04) Florida Atlantic 36.4 18.0 46.1% 9.7 1.3 2.7 1.1 2.1
Yakhouba Diawara (2003-04) Pepperdine 34.0 18.9 50.9% 6.6 0.8 1.1 0.9 0.1
Jaime Lloreda (2002-03) LSU 29.2 12.3 56.3% 9.0 1.1 2.3 0.9 2.0
Rodney Tucker (2002-03) Auburn 6.8 1.8 44.7% 1.1 0.2 0.5 0.2 0.2
Jamar Smith (2002-03) Maryland 14.0 5.9 48.1% 3.9 0.3 1.0 0.4 0.6
AVERAGES 24.3 11.6 50.1% 6.1 0.9 1.7 0.8 1.0


Obviously we see some highs (Landry, Diawara) and lows (Tucker, Nichols), and looking at these stats in a straight-forward manner, without taking into account level of competition, is going to be pretty rough.  But the overall average of 11 PPG and 6 RPG doesn't seem too far out of the realm of possibility.  Whereas we'll have to see how Ratliffe's offense translates to the D1 level, I'd be willing to bet that his rebounding rates are on the high end of the scale, and depending on how many minutes he gets, 7-8 RPG isn't out of the question.  (And if he's an absolute rock star and gets closer to 30 MPG, then it could go up to the 9-11 RPG range, but we're not thinking about rock star terms right now -- conservative is the name of the game.)

Obviously the ceiling of such a high-profile JUCO PF is pretty high, but if I were to offer you 10 PPG and 7 RPG from Ratliffe right now (in other words, roughly the production that Mizzou's last high-profile JUCO target averaged this year), would you take it?  Of course you would.  With a deeper bench and typical sophomore-to-junior improvement from Mizzou's big three (Bowers-English-Denmon), then having a newcomer deliver 10 & 7 would be just a staggering addition.

Summary

On paper (and in Excel), there is every reason for Mizzou fans to be giddy over the prospects of this team in 2010-11.  To be sure, Mizzou has addressed its needs as well as a team possibly can in one recruiting class -- they needed a big man with more scoring potential, and they got one (Ratliffe).  They needed a point guard of the future, and they got one (P. Pressey).  They needed guard depth and versatility, and they got it (M. Pressey).  They needed another 3-point shooter, and they got it (Kreklow).  Oh yeah ... and they got a 5-star SF/PF (Tony Mitchell), upon whom there is now little to no pressure, to boot.  Now the pieces just have to fit together.  The chemistry needs to be there, and everybody needs to continue to play the complementary style with which Mike Anderson teams have been so successful in the last two seasons.  Success is far from guaranteed, but ... what a recruiting class, and what a ceiling this team now has.  If we weren't such football fanatics at RMN, the next 6.5 months of waiting between now and the Black & Gold game would be interminable.

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I imagine Kimmie is thinking....

“Get Your Popcorn…..”

The sleeper has awoken. . .awakened. . .he woke up.

by SleepyFloyd7 on Apr 12, 2010 9:23 AM CDT reply actions  

I hope he's thinking

“I don’t have to take contested fadeaway threes, not that I ever did”

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Apr 12, 2010 9:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Great wrap-up to a great weekend!

The best part of this article is that it is conservatively written . . . high competition for limited minutes may well push those returning to even greater numbers as well as challenging the new additions. We might not only have The Fastest 40 Minutes, but also be in range of The 40 Minutes of Hell. BTW, Bill . . . you were right about the transfers; so much for psychology :-)

by countrycal on Apr 12, 2010 9:24 AM CDT reply actions  

One's Miguel Paul

He announced it on his Facebook page. I’ve heard the other is Tyler Stone, though I don’t know the reasons for that.

Making fun of the "Mizzou Needs a Fullback" Club since...well, for a while, anyway.

by jaeger on Apr 12, 2010 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's been 99% confirmed that the second one is Stone...

…people have been expecting an official release from the university about it for the last week or so, but it hasn’t come down the pike yet…

by Bill C. on Apr 12, 2010 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

I’m a little surprised to see my guys projected so high with the losses we are taking. If we can land Josh Selby and/or Doron Lamb this week I’m more convinced but right now I’m cautious.

In terms of Mizzou, nice weekend for you guys. It’s good to see KU, MU and K-State all projected near the top as I continue my push to position the “I-70” corridor as the new Tobacco Road. Duke kinda put a damper on that by winning the whole damn thing though.

Should be a fun year next season. Coach Anderson looks to have the horses. I suspect K-State, Kansas and Missouri will play 6 pretty epic games against eachother over the season and they will probably go a long way toward determining the conference champ.

53 Conference Championships!! and now 6 IN A ROW!!! Holy Hell...Good Luck with That!!

by Owen on Apr 12, 2010 9:28 AM CDT reply actions  

Here was my initial post on Kansas:

http://www.rockmnation.com/2010/4/3/1401800/2009-10-season-wrap-up-part-ten

Enough of the projections are based on recruiting rankings that obviously KU doesn’t drop much with Johnson and Robinson assuming bigger roles and Little stepping back into the picture. There is obviously less big-game experience on next year’s KU team, but the potential for better chemistry is quite high. I’m curious to see who else KU lands, but from a statistical standpoint, it probably won’t impact their projections much — they already have a 5-star sophomore (Johnson) likely stepping into the rotation, so a 5-star freshman won’t be projected to offer much more than that.

by Bill C. on Apr 12, 2010 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

gotcha...

thanks for the link. I am with you 100% on the chemistry standpoint next year. Kansas really never seemed to have it this year on a consistent basis. Honestly they probably had their best chemistry against the Tigers and the Wildcats which to me is a little disconcerting because it shows that we weren’t getting up for every game.

As far as who else they land….Selby will be a difference maker. Lamb, not sure he changes things that much.

53 Conference Championships!! and now 6 IN A ROW!!! Holy Hell...Good Luck with That!!

by Owen on Apr 12, 2010 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

On Steeeeve

Part of me is a bit sad that Steve’s minutes will go down. He showed a lot of maturity this past year, and I think became a bit of a progressing force on defense, though still an offensive liability. I also felt that now he could go into this summer knowing if he elevates his footwork and gets a few post moves, he’s set.

But, with the addition of Ricardo “Montalbán” Ratliffe, perhaps it’s a way to get the rabble down. Instead of having Steve move into a 15 minute runner (what he was doing), he evolves into a 6-8 minute post monster. Put him in when you’ve got the opponent’s big man almost in foul trouble, and Steve just pounds that man and the block into submission. Then, you bring back Ratliffe and commence the foot to throat (up, down, B, A, B).

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by Ausgiano on Apr 12, 2010 9:40 AM CDT reply actions  

Bill...

Do these records take into account home/road games? For instance, it looks like we have a very difficult schedule with road games at 3 of the 4 best south teams.

Annoying You Since 1986

by MUTIGERS86 on Apr 12, 2010 9:54 AM CDT reply actions  

No.

This is basing win % solely off of point margin. Obviously KU, KSU and MU are unlikely to go a combined 35-1 against everybody not named KU, KSU and MU, and the schedule makes the projections less realistic, but this does show who the three best teams in the conference should be by far. (If Udoh returns, however, things get a little less clear.)

by Bill C. on Apr 12, 2010 10:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

I know I'm getting way ahead of myself...

But in 2011, this team will only lose 7 points per game, have 6 seniors who have probably won around 6 tourney games, and everybody else improving a year. Scary.

Annoying You Since 1986

by MUTIGERS86 on Apr 12, 2010 10:10 AM CDT reply actions  

yeah...

the 2011-2012 tigers (assuming everything goes as we expect this upcoming season) are preseason top five-esque.

by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 12, 2010 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

you wouldn't be a Mizzou fan if you didn't

:-)

"I have CDO. It's like OCD, but the letters are in alphabetical order. Like they should be."

by BigMOman on Apr 12, 2010 11:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Another thing about these recruits...

Is that they aren’t greedy. In the post-game interview after breaking the all-time JUCO scoring record, Ricardo talked about more only keeping track of his assists. Phil pressey averaged a boat-load of assists in high school, and possibly Matt Pressey’s lower 3PT/FG% could be due to his unselfishness. That is pretty much what this team needs, players who aren’t going to be taking the ball every time and chucking up shots. That makes these players a perfect fit for this system. I give this recruiting class two thumbs up, not only with the star potential, but also because each player were bringing in fits this system to a T

by TheHamburglar on Apr 12, 2010 10:19 AM CDT reply actions  

I never thought I'd say this

because it just hasn’t been that long since a whole lot of Mizzou basketball catastrophes, but I’m having an exceptionally difficult time keeping my expectations under control.

Suppose Steve uses this offseason to put some post offense together. He’s already our best returning defensive player in the post, and he’s got the hands to put some points on the board. If that happens, I have a hard time seeing his minutes not increasing some. That leaves us with four guys who we should be able to expect to contribute at a high level – Steve, Safford, Bowers, and Ratliffe, and that’s saying nothing of some guy named Mitchell or either Kadeem Green or John Underwood.

And while the lack of an experienced true point guard is a little bit worrisome, I’m not convinced this system needs a true point guard. A leader on the court, certainly. But everyone on the team could be both dishing and receiving assists, and that’s when the 5-man motion offense really gets scary and hard to defend. Lastly, the fact is that our two most explosive scorers are coming back for their junior years, and if they make any kind of a jump in consistency, then English and Denmon in and of themselves make our backcourt offense pretty terrifying. More than anything else, this team is beginning to remind me of a better-balanced version of K-State’s team this year. It’s not a perfect analogy (we’re not going to spend a lot of time in a 3-big lineup), and their biggest weakness this year is looking like a strength for us (guard depth), while one of our big weaknesses looks to improve significantly (rebounding). But, seriously:

Bigs: (Upperclassmen) Bowers, Moore, Ratliff, Safford, (Underclassmen) Mitchell, Green, Underwood

Guards: (Upperclassmen) Denmon, English, M. Pressey, (Underclassmen) Dixon, P. Pressey, Kreklow

I think my sentiments (and perhaps Mizzou nation’s, as a whole) can be best expressed by the following:

DAAAAAAAAAAAAAMN.

Making fun of the "Mizzou Needs a Fullback" Club since...well, for a while, anyway.

by jaeger on Apr 12, 2010 10:28 AM CDT reply actions  

Addendum:

Making fun of the "Mizzou Needs a Fullback" Club since...well, for a while, anyway.

by jaeger on Apr 12, 2010 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

+1

my “conservative” expectation is the elite eight. that’s probably a bad thing and is a perfect setup to be disappointed, but i just can’t control myself any longer.

by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 12, 2010 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

As a whole, it's a whole lot better for your sanity...

…if you contain “expectations” to the regular season. :-) The tourney has so many breaks and bounces involved that is somewhat less under a team’s control. The regular season, however, is made for expectations and projections.

by Bill C. on Apr 12, 2010 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

i know i know i know

but even “conservative” expectations for the regular season would include no more than one loss in noncon and going 13-3 in conference play.

and holy crap that’s #1 seed type stuff.

ANYWAY

by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 12, 2010 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

Depends.

What we do in conference tourney.

Annoying You Since 1986

by MUTIGERS86 on Apr 12, 2010 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

5 man motion offense

I am also cautiously optimistic, but the past season has shown me some serious “O” gaps when we most needed “O”. I hope the elder Pressey would help with his FTA/FGA, Dixon would see more minutes continue to go fast, and the younger Pressey would likewise break down the D. As many of us were frequently commenting last season, our players need to dribble penetrate more.

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by totalloser on Apr 12, 2010 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Uhh does Sutton walk on this year?

lol. I am super excited for this team!

Great moments are born from great opportunity.

by muwxman on Apr 12, 2010 10:40 AM CDT reply actions  

He only got a one-year scholarship last year...

…so yeah, if everybody qualifies (and the new word from Gabe is that Kadeem Green is a much, much bigger qualification issue than Mitchell), Sutton has no schollie. If not everybody does, then Sutton probably gets the last one again.

by Bill C. on Apr 12, 2010 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

Huge commitments ...

… as you said in your piece about Mitchell, these two new guys COMPLETELY remove any pressure we would have put on Mitchell. But moreover, I think it takes some of the pressure off Bowers and Big Steve as well. Bowers can move back into his off-the-bench role (or if he takes the necessary step forward, then either Ratliffe or a still-recovering Safford can come off the bench). And Big Steve moves back into that 4th-big man role, where getting no scoring but getting 12 minutes of rebounding, blocking shots and taking charges is more than acceptable.

And Mitchell can play a lot more on the wing, where rebounding is a bonus and not as much a necessity. He’ll be coming off the bench to give us that scoring kick midway through the first and second halves. Not starting the game with the pressure of scoring so much on his shoulders.

Man, this team could be pretty damn good, though the pessimist in me keeps flashing back to the AJ, Paulding, Travon senior year team (the one where things started to unravel). That team was loaded on paper (we added Kleiza inside and Conley on the outside midway through the year). I guess the optimist in me should remind myself, however, of one major difference between that team and this one: I believe our head coaches are different.

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by mitch cumstein on Apr 12, 2010 10:42 AM CDT reply actions  

you said it exactly

our head coaches are different. i don’t think i’ll ever forgive quin for that year.

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by FutureMan on Apr 12, 2010 7:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

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quick and dirty

The sleeper has awoken. . .awakened. . .he woke up.

by SleepyFloyd7 on Apr 12, 2010 11:28 AM CDT reply actions  

I like

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by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Apr 12, 2010 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

If Ricardo is anything like a railroad

In monopoly, it will probably end up with one member of the team turning over the board or walking away mid game because he landed on boardwalk with like 3 hotels on it. This of course is a metaphor, or how monopoly goes in my family. At least you didn’t choose risk.

by TheHamburglar on Apr 12, 2010 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

GAH!!!

Formerly known as Mizzou Grad

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by Ausgiano on Apr 12, 2010 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Keeping my optimizm in check

Is going to be like keeping Wolverine caged.

Possible but unlikely.

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by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Apr 12, 2010 11:48 AM CDT reply actions  

x

Great moments are born from great opportunity.

by muwxman on Apr 12, 2010 11:51 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

would it almost be advantageous

for kadeem green not to qualify, freeing up a scholarship for a perhaps higher profile recruit in the 2011 class?

by njs24 on Apr 12, 2010 3:04 PM CDT reply actions  

Just because you aren't a four or five star doesn't mean you can't be really good.

Mike Anderson has made himself a living off of taking lower-profile recruits and turning them into studs. I think that Demarre Carroll was only three-star heading into Vanderbilt (I’m not sure) and look where he is now.

"And on the first day of Spring, number one has fallen."

by StopSpe on Apr 12, 2010 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Word.

And if CMA recruited the guy, he’s gotta see something in him. I trust the coach on this one. Plus, it isn’t like Green’s not a pretty well-regarded recruit. He’s one of those Burger King type guys Nolan Richardson was talking about, I think.

Making fun of the "Mizzou Needs a Fullback" Club since...well, for a while, anyway.

by jaeger on Apr 12, 2010 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not sure njs24 was asking from a "caliber of player" standpoint...

…more from a “distribution of scholarships” standpoint. If he qualifies, I welcome him, but right now we’ve only got one scholarship to give in the next recruiting class, and a second wouldn’t be a terrible idea.

by Bill C. on Apr 12, 2010 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

On the radio this morning

Gabe of Power Mizzou said the Stone scholarship will also go to next year’s class.

Have you taken the RMNation Survey? $500 to a worthwhile charity if we win.

by tigers and chiefs fan on Apr 12, 2010 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's almost like going into next season for hoops will be like going into 2008 in football

When you consider that at least the 2008 football team was legitimately coming off of a fantastic season that makes this general feeling a bit scary. But the parallels are certainly there among the fans and, just like football 2008, I can’t say they’re completely unjustified.

Because you all care my expectation for next year is a top 4 seed in the NCAA and Big 12 tournaments, 25 wins, and a sweet 16 appearance. Anything from the sweet 16 on will depend nearly as much on bounces and luck as true skill of a team.

However, I am almost expecting a final 4 in the next two years given CMA’s tournament history of overachieving their seed and the quality of team/seed that the next two years will bring.

by shaffe on Apr 12, 2010 3:38 PM CDT reply actions  

while i agree with you,

green was probably not anderson’s top choice; and with an extra scholarship, not to mention a presumably increased reputation, anderson would have more freedom to target his top choices. Plus, it would be nice to balance out class distribution.

by njs24 on Apr 12, 2010 3:42 PM CDT reply actions  

With the base he will have . . .

the idea of CMA adding another couple of Jucos in 2012 with four freshmen is not all that bad, really. If only two or three of your 13 are two-year players, it should not overly affect the team, and you don’t necessarily want to completely write off the Juco possibility since there are a lot of good players who need those two years to become academically eligible.

by countrycal on Apr 12, 2010 4:01 PM CDT reply actions  

I'm gonna keep my expectations low

2nd round

just so you know im really supersticious

by Tom T on Apr 12, 2010 6:18 PM CDT reply actions  

hope you are ready billy!

we shall bring the fight to lawrence and the fight shall be broughten!

my expectations are way out of control and i have no problem with that. its been a while since i have been this excited about a season of mizzou basketball and i’m going to relish it.

"Sorry about him, he's dealing with being an inker. " - Chasing Amy

by FutureMan on Apr 12, 2010 8:08 PM CDT reply actions  

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