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Final Four Semifinal Thread

INDIANAPOLIS - APRIL 02:  A general view of the exterior of Lucas Oil Stadium prior to the 2010 Final Four of the NCAA Division I Men's Basketball Tournament on April 2, 2010 in Indianapolis, Indiana.  (Photo by Kevin C. Cox/Getty Images)

The Final Four finally tips off!

JV game Semifinal 1: No. 5 Michigan St. Spartans vs. No. 5 Butler Bulldogs (5:07 p.m. CDT)
Varsity game Semifinal 2: No. 1 Duke Blue Devils vs. No. 2 West Virginia Mountaineers (7:47 p.m. CDT)

We're down to our final live threads for basketball season, so make it count!

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I guarantee that the winner of the "JV Game" will win the championship game.

Mark it down.

"Don't settle for mediocrity. Be better than the best. Strive to become legendary at everything you do."
-Kim English

by StopSpe on Apr 3, 2010 4:53 PM CDT reply actions  

So marked.

"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010

by ghtd36 on Apr 3, 2010 8:30 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

I hate to talk aesthetics...

but I hate Butler’s black shoes, white socks, look.

"So we finish the 18th and he's gonna stiff me. And I say, 'Hey, Lama, hey, how about a little something, you know, for the effort, you know".

by CEW on Apr 3, 2010 5:12 PM CDT reply actions  

hard to believe

matt howard was the horizon league poy last year. dude is a foul machine. with no apparent game whatsoever.

In the immortal words of Jean Paul Sartre, 'Au revoir, gopher'. Carl Spackler

by threadkiller on Apr 3, 2010 5:33 PM CDT reply actions  

Does Bill Carter do basketball games?

"So we finish the 18th and he's gonna stiff me. And I say, 'Hey, Lama, hey, how about a little something, you know, for the effort, you know".

by CEW on Apr 3, 2010 5:39 PM CDT reply actions  

Does CBS purposely give us bad announcers for the most important games?

I’d prefer Lundquist+Raftery, Elmore+Johnson, or Bilas+Enberg. Nantz and Kellogg speak off a script, it seems. They both sound like they are from a videogame and have preset lines.

"Don't settle for mediocrity. Be better than the best. Strive to become legendary at everything you do."
-Kim English

by StopSpe on Apr 3, 2010 5:41 PM CDT reply actions  

Maybe you just played too much College Hooks 2K8...

like me.

"So we finish the 18th and he's gonna stiff me. And I say, 'Hey, Lama, hey, how about a little something, you know, for the effort, you know".

by CEW on Apr 3, 2010 5:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wow, Kellogg just said, "Somebody on Butler needs to put the ball in the basket."

 I just turned the game off because I can’t stand to listen to these crappy commentators and I can’t stand the awful CBS presentation with 5-minute time-outs and no crowd noise. It was a fun season of college basketball, though.

"Don't settle for mediocrity. Be better than the best. Strive to become legendary at everything you do."
-Kim English

by StopSpe on Apr 3, 2010 5:58 PM CDT reply actions  

Frank Martin screams.

#ThingsAsPredictableAsStopSpe ComplainingAboutAnnouncersAndOrOfficials

"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010

by ghtd36 on Apr 3, 2010 8:33 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

I have a rule of thumb on Twitter:

If someone ever fills up my TweetDeck column singlehandedly (six Tweets, I believe), they get unfollowed.

You notched the feat on April 1.

"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010

by ghtd36 on Apr 3, 2010 11:15 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

It was probably with complaining about people unfollowing him too.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
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by ClemsonGirl on Apr 3, 2010 11:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why didn't you just mute it?

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
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by ClemsonGirl on Apr 3, 2010 6:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

I liked the Dairy Queened comment.

That was an amusing way to put it.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
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by ClemsonGirl on Apr 3, 2010 6:03 PM CDT reply actions  

just caught the end of the big 12 gymnastics championships

congrats to mizzou’s sarah shire: repeat big 12 all-around champ.

ou won the team title. mizzou was 3rd out of 4.

i was surprised there are only 4 teams- none of the texas schools.

by Wooderson on Apr 3, 2010 6:15 PM CDT reply actions  

...

The Large Poster on the baseline that say “THE ROAD ENDS HERE” would make me soil my drawers.

"As loud as the ovations are for big threes or for thunderous dunks, some of the biggest roars you hear at Mizzou Arena these days are for steals, shot clock violations, and forcing opponents into timeouts in their own backcourt. Just as Anderson has crafted himself a team built on defensive intensity, he's built himself a fan base that echoes that same value system." -

by tigr on Apr 3, 2010 6:32 PM CDT reply actions  

Oy...

…am thinking Butler has probably wasted its best opportunity to win by choosing now to miss 114 straight shots.

by Bill C. on Apr 3, 2010 7:13 PM CDT reply actions  

This tournament has rarely failed to be exciting.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
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Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Apr 3, 2010 7:25 PM CDT reply actions  

Does anybody else think that Tom Izzo's wife looks like Troy Polamalu?

"Don't settle for mediocrity. Be better than the best. Strive to become legendary at everything you do."
-Kim English

by StopSpe on Apr 3, 2010 7:32 PM CDT reply actions  

why do i fee like all highlights of this wvu team

is against Mizzou? perhaps cuz we scared them the most?

Great moments are born from great opportunity.

by muwxman on Apr 3, 2010 7:42 PM CDT reply actions  

I was actually just thinking that.

I think we did in fact give Huggy & Co. more of a challenge than Kentucky or Washington did.

"So we finish the 18th and he's gonna stiff me. And I say, 'Hey, Lama, hey, how about a little something, you know, for the effort, you know".

by CEW on Apr 3, 2010 7:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

They were showing Da'sean Butler, who had a great game against us.

I wasn’t able to watch his games against Washington or Kentucky so I think his best game of the tournament against a real team (not Morgan State) was the game against Missoui.

"Don't settle for mediocrity. Be better than the best. Strive to become legendary at everything you do."
-Kim English

by StopSpe on Apr 3, 2010 7:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

YES BUTLER!!!

Butler > WVU for national title…just wait

by MizzCote on Apr 3, 2010 7:44 PM CDT reply actions  

Favorite Final Four semi-final game you actually watched?

Go.

"So we finish the 18th and he's gonna stiff me. And I say, 'Hey, Lama, hey, how about a little something, you know, for the effort, you know".

by CEW on Apr 3, 2010 7:45 PM CDT reply actions  

SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM

SPAMITY-SPAM! WONDERFUL SPAM!

Formerly known as Mizzou Grad

http://twitter.com/Ausgiano

by Ausgiano on Apr 3, 2010 8:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

or...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anwy2MPT5RE

Formerly known as Mizzou Grad

http://twitter.com/Ausgiano

by Ausgiano on Apr 3, 2010 8:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Strong Evidence for Missouri's Defense System:

55.6 — Michigan State’s field-goal percentage.
30.6 — Butler’s field goal percentage.

"As loud as the ovations are for big threes or for thunderous dunks, some of the biggest roars you hear at Mizzou Arena these days are for steals, shot clock violations, and forcing opponents into timeouts in their own backcourt. Just as Anderson has crafted himself a team built on defensive intensity, he's built himself a fan base that echoes that same value system." -

by tigr on Apr 3, 2010 8:26 PM CDT reply actions  

more in support

of a lack of need for DOMINANT shooting % – as some mizzou fans believe is a must.

"As loud as the ovations are for big threes or for thunderous dunks, some of the biggest roars you hear at Mizzou Arena these days are for steals, shot clock violations, and forcing opponents into timeouts in their own backcourt. Just as Anderson has crafted himself a team built on defensive intensity, he's built himself a fan base that echoes that same value system." -

by tigr on Apr 3, 2010 8:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hey

Who wrote your quote?

I LOVE it!!

Have you taken the RMNation Survey? $500 to a worthwhile charity if we win.

by tigers and chiefs fan on Apr 3, 2010 9:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

RMN

said that on this post

"As loud as the ovations are for big threes or for thunderous dunks, some of the biggest roars you hear at Mizzou Arena these days are for steals, shot clock violations, and forcing opponents into timeouts in their own backcourt. Just as Anderson has crafted himself a team built on defensive intensity, he's built himself a fan base that echoes that same value system." -

by tigr on Apr 3, 2010 9:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Full Quote Below:

“Remember what I said about how everything in the Fastest 40 Minutes system snowballs when everything is working right? That snowball effect multiplies exponentially when Mizzou Arena is rocking during conference play. For as violently frustrated as I can get with fans at Faurot Field, I continue to be impressed by how attuned to Anderson’s system the crowd at Mizzou Arena continues to be. As loud as the ovations are for big threes or for thunderous dunks, some of the biggest roars you hear at Mizzou Arena these days are for steals, shot clock violations, and forcing opponents into timeouts in their own backcourt. Just as Anderson has crafted himself a team built on defensive intensity, he’s built himself a fan base that echoes that same value system.” – RMN

"As loud as the ovations are for big threes or for thunderous dunks, some of the biggest roars you hear at Mizzou Arena these days are for steals, shot clock violations, and forcing opponents into timeouts in their own backcourt. Just as Anderson has crafted himself a team built on defensive intensity, he's built himself a fan base that echoes that same value system." -

by tigr on Apr 3, 2010 9:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yep.

I love it.

Am going to a game next year for sure. Went to the K-State game in 2009 & that was FUN as hell!

Have you taken the RMNation Survey? $500 to a worthwhile charity if we win.

by tigers and chiefs fan on Apr 3, 2010 9:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

i take it you arent

…nor have ever been a student?

"As loud as the ovations are for big threes or for thunderous dunks, some of the biggest roars you hear at Mizzou Arena these days are for steals, shot clock violations, and forcing opponents into timeouts in their own backcourt. Just as Anderson has crafted himself a team built on defensive intensity, he's built himself a fan base that echoes that same value system." -

by tigr on Apr 3, 2010 10:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

No.

Married a lifelong Tiger fan (who coincidentally never went to Mizzou either). His whole family (none who went to Mizzou) are lifelong Missouri residents and Mizzou fan.

Have you taken the RMNation Survey? $500 to a worthwhile charity if we win.

by tigers and chiefs fan on Apr 3, 2010 10:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

gruesome injury for da'sean butler.

sucks. that kid seems like a really good kid with his head screwed on straight. i wish him the best. side note: who woulda thought huggy had 2 hot daughters? :-)

In the immortal words of Jean Paul Sartre, 'Au revoir, gopher'. Carl Spackler

by threadkiller on Apr 3, 2010 9:56 PM CDT reply actions  

I want to know why Bob Huggins pretended to have sex with him on the court.

I really hope somebody got a picture of that.

Although I really do feel bad for Decaf and hope it’s not too serious.

"Don't settle for mediocrity. Be better than the best. Strive to become legendary at everything you do."
-Kim English

by StopSpe on Apr 3, 2010 10:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

c'mon, man.

the guy had played more games in a mountaineer uni than any of his predecessors. huggy was emotional, and butler couldn’t move. don’t make a dirty joke out of it. i’ve got more respect for bob huggins after this tourney than i used to have. he loves his players. and fights for them. i could see cma doing that for kimmie of he were to go down in a similar situation.
anybody think butler has a chance against duke monday night? nantz and kellogg (ugh) can say all they want about singler, scheyer and smith. the difference in this game was zoubek and his rebounding. not to mention the altering of a whole lot of wvu shots. many by da’sean butler. i don’t think butler has anybody that neutralize him in the paint. especially since howard seems to foul about every 37 seconds.

In the immortal words of Jean Paul Sartre, 'Au revoir, gopher'. Carl Spackler

by threadkiller on Apr 3, 2010 10:15 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Huh.

That’s an interesting read on the situation, considering, you know, he’s the coach of a senior who just suffered a (college) career-ending injury.

"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010

by ghtd36 on Apr 3, 2010 11:17 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Alright, I can't leave this alone, StopSpe.

If this is what you took away from what transpired on the court in Indianapolis tonight, I pray that the good Lord never puts you in a position in which someone entrusts their son or daughter to you or puts you in a situation in which someone you love/someone you care about is in unbearable pain.

What I saw on the court tonight was perhaps some of the most gut-wrenching few minutes of television I’ve ever seen. The lack of judgment shown in your post (and this certainly is not the first time) is almost unendurable to read, to digest, and to comprehend. There may be communities that find that comment amusing. This sure as hell isn’t one of them.

by RPT on Apr 3, 2010 11:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thank You.

..saved me much typing in retort.

"As loud as the ovations are for big threes or for thunderous dunks, some of the biggest roars you hear at Mizzou Arena these days are for steals, shot clock violations, and forcing opponents into timeouts in their own backcourt. Just as Anderson has crafted himself a team built on defensive intensity, he's built himself a fan base that echoes that same value system." -

by tigr on Apr 4, 2010 1:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

There is a solid chance...

…that on Monday, we will have our first complete, 10-man whitewash in the NCAA finals since, oh, about 1957.

by Bill C. on Apr 3, 2010 10:13 PM CDT reply actions  

maybe don needs a cameo?

In the immortal words of Jean Paul Sartre, 'Au revoir, gopher'. Carl Spackler

by threadkiller on Apr 3, 2010 10:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Really?

I wasn’t expecting a StopSpe-quality post from you.

by AlaTiger on Apr 4, 2010 6:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

eh?

In the immortal words of Jean Paul Sartre, 'Au revoir, gopher'. Carl Spackler

by threadkiller on Apr 4, 2010 8:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

Really?

It’s not like I was celebrating it…

by Bill C. on Apr 4, 2010 9:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

Are you suggesting that I'm racist?

"Don't settle for mediocrity. Be better than the best. Strive to become legendary at everything you do."
-Kim English

by StopSpe on Apr 4, 2010 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

Heh, no.

Just suggesting that I can’t see what was wrong with the remark. I’m pretty PC-sensitive, and I thought the remark was pretty harmless.

by Bill C. on Apr 4, 2010 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

First, I fail to see the relevance

Seriously, who cares? It’s not like people are being denied opportunity.

Second, I fail to see the solid chance. Looking at the minutes spread for Butler alone, the only way you see five guys of European descent on the floor at the same time is if Butler is getting blown out in the final minutes. Even then, the guy with the fewest minutes played for Butler this year is of African descent, so I wouldn’t hold my breath.

You are more likely to see a “wash” on the Duke side, but even then, Dawkins doesn’t play a ton of minutes and might be on the floor even at the end of blowout.

Maybe Duke blows out Butler, but I think it will be a fairly close game. Even then, some things additional things have to line up.

So, irrelevant and, in my view, incorrect.

by AlaTiger on Apr 4, 2010 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

It was never intended to be either relevant or correct.

…it was intended to be a slightly different way of saying “These teams sure do have a lot of white guys,” and that’s about it.

by Bill C. on Apr 4, 2010 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

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