Mizzou Links, 5-13-10
by Bill C. on May 13, 2010 5:30 AM CDT
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Yep, Expansion is going to be the top topic every morning, isn't it...
- SI.com (Andy Staples): Predicting if Notre Dame, expansion candidates will jump ship
Despite the financial benefit it could offer Notre Dame, the Big Ten still would need to blow up the Big East to force Notre Dame's hand. That probably would require the acquisition of at least three Big East teams. If that doesn't happen, expect Notre Dame to remain independent in football.
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• MISSOURI: This is a no-brainer. Missouri isn't happy with its lot in the Big 12, which adjusts its revenue distribution based on television appearances. Using 2007-08 school year tax documents, the Tulsa World found that Mizzou ranked sixth in the Big 12 that year in revenue received from the conference. The Tigers can double the conference distribution they receive by joining the Big Ten, and the Big Ten can add more than two million cable households by adding the Tigers. Plus, a Missouri-Illinois rivalry makes geographic sense.
Prediction: If Delany offers a golden ticket, Missouri will accept. Hopefully, the school's rivalry with Kansas could continue in a non-conference capacity.
• NEBRASKA: Nebraska is a tougher call. We know the Cornhuskers want a better deal. How do we know this? Because in the process of shooting down the Kansas City radio report Monday, Cornhuskers' brass made it a point to remind us that Nebraska wants a better deal. "Both Chancellor Harvey Perlman and Athletic Director Tom Osborne have indicated that the university would consider any opportunity that would advance the interests of the university," a university release read.
But Nebraska is a small state. According to 2000 census data, it has just 666,184 households. So Nebraska wouldn't bring in the cable revenue other schools might. What it would do is give the BTN another program with national cachet that could help get the BTN moved to expanded basic in markets outside the Big Ten footprint.
Prediction: If the Big Ten offers, Nebraska is gone.
- KC Star: KU, MU fans don't like the idea of Border War ending
KU-MU clashes in Kansas City bring in millions of dollars for the city, and the three Border War games at Arrowhead have been worth $1 million for each school annually. That KU would possibly turn its back on that financial boon — even if it means playing MU in a nonconference game — was surprising to Missouri fans.
“It hurts KU more than it hurts us,” said Paul Blackman, a Missouri alum, booster and former president of the Kansas City Tiger Club. “If (Perkins) wants to cut off his nose to spite his face, that’s fine with me. If Missouri wants to play somebody else at Arrowhead, I think they can.”
Perkins said Tuesday that KU would be open to playing another school at Arrowhead if the situation called for it — though he acknowledged how special the Missouri games have been.
“They’ve all been basically full houses,” Perkins said. “I think it’s a great, great, great game. But if we have to play K-State or Iowa State, there’s always somebody else out there.”
Sure, but around here, there’s nobody else quite like the Tigers.
“Personally, I don’t think (Perkins) represents the view of most KU fans,” Blackman said. “They hate us, but they love to play us.”
- Tulsa World: Big 12 pair can't deny Lone Star pipeline
- Houston Chronicle: If Big Ten calls, Missouri will listen hard
- Alligator Army: Time for the SEC to attack
- Rush the Court: The Big 12 and Pac-10 -- An Alliance?
- College Football Talk: T. Boone talks expansion, OSU's ears perk up
The Missourian: Pickens says Oklahoma State should stay in Big 12 - SB Nation: Big Ten Expansion Tips: Invite the Arkansas Deaf Leopards
Mizzou Football Links
- ESPN.com: An early look at the Big 12 bowl picture
- The Missourian: Missouri football team tracks racy words on social networks (This is actually a pretty interesting story)
- PowerMizzou: Sneak peek: 2010 secondaries
- PowerMizzou: Powered Up: Tiger football in the Big Ten
- The Missourian: Former Mizzou wide receiver pleads guilty to assault
Former Missouri wide receiver Tommy Saunders was sentenced to 15 days in the Boone County Jail after pleading guilty on May 5 to misdemeanor third-degree assault.
The charge stemmed from a Nov. 20, 2009, incident in which court documents say Saunders punched Branden Gregory outside Tonic, a nightclub at 122 S. Ninth St., giving Gregory a broken nose and a concussion.
Other Football Links
- Rock Chalk Talk: Personnel Clues to the Offense
Basketball Links
- Rush the Court: Morning Five: 05.13.10 Edition (congrats to OU for averaging higher "attendance" than Mizzou ... clearly this number is derived from tickets sold ... now about how many actually "attended" the game...)
Other Mizzou Links
- Mizzou Baseball
The Trib: Tim Jamieson in need of good laugh
SimmonsField.com: Mizzou Baseball in the Minors: Gibby going places
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would "expansion" be a racy word right now?
or “Big 10” ?
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by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on May 13, 2010 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions
Re: Expansion leading every morning
As far as page views go, conference expansion is the new Erin Andrews.
just for saying that
y’all need to post some pics of her. NOW.
by jschooltiger on May 13, 2010 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions
So...
…I’m thinking a “Big Ten to expand to 16 teams, and Big Ten Network to hire Erin Andrews away from ESPN” post would make the Internet implode upon itself.
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by jschooltiger on May 13, 2010 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions
Don't know if Paul Blackman did it on purpose ...
… (I like to think he did), but the crack about Perkins and his Franken-schnoz “cutting off his nose to spite his face” was comedy gold. GOLD, Jerry! GOLD!
Was once caught putting at night ... with the 15-year old daughter of the dean
by mitch cumstein on May 13, 2010 11:01 AM CDT reply actions
latest threats from mr. Boobe
sorry for the blatant hork of the ‘Boobe’, but it was too damn good to resist.
And I completely understand if people have gotten sick of KKeitzman driving the news cycle, and are therefore ignoring this.
But, listening to the interview (http://www.810whb.com/blog/3546- sorry, don’t see where to do a hyperlink. sorry) yesterday, it seems like Mr. sock puppet (my other favorite description) is cranking up the ’let’s play chicken’ approach. Sounds like they are going to essentially tell anybody who doesn’t have the right response to their ‘will you come to Jesus?’ question at the Big 12 meetings will be told to go home or something.
I wonder- has the timeframe been accelerated (hence all the talk/rumors now instead of later) by the Big Ten in part because MU (and NU, maybe) found out that the Big 12 is suddenly now willing to act fast and piss some members off (and how surprising- we’re the school they are ready to give the finger) by kicking us out of the meetings? Would seem to present a tough situation to Alden, who unlike other AD’s, would likely be loath to lie, but also wouldn’t want to be essentially forced to publicly acknowledge that we are likely gone before we have our golden ticket? Maybe that is why the offer non-offer has been made, so we know we DO have a home if we are forced to sit in the corner by the conf.
And I do think unless 1) the conference office are idiots 2) they genuinely think it doesn’t matter if we leave or 3) so many panties are in a wad that they have thrown common sense out the door (we still are in this conf. last I checked) this screams that they think/know we are already gone, and are grasping at straws to try to scare us into committing to stay.
It is quite strange, just because I don’t see how the threats would really accomplish anything, and if somehow we stay, you have poisened the relationship massively.
But I do remember the freakish ‘we can’t believe Huggins did this, the a-hole’ news conf. the KSU folks had after Huggy left. Was baffled how much it screamed ‘our feelings are hurt, so we are going to hold a press conf. to bash the crap out of the person who hurt us, although nobody is thinking about what this will accomplish or what we will look like’.
All it does is make you look WEAK and petty. Not sure why the hey the Big 12 keeps getting folks from KSU, not exactly masters of public relations and fiscal responsiblity…
And I do like the KSU folks, but they have had some major goofs at the top of that A Dept. recently.
What in the world...
… makes anyone believe Dan Beebe has either the foresight OR the testicular fortitude to make threats to conference members?
by RPT on May 13, 2010 11:37 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
latest rumor
he’s going to make us give up our traditional rivalry with Texas Tech
by jschooltiger on May 13, 2010 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions
What do they think these threats will accomplish?
I’m sorry, but until the Big Ten says one way or the other, Mizzou holds the cards right now. Why do they think threatening a team that already wants to leave is going to make them stay? Here’s a wacky idea: come to the table and discuss the issues. Maybe things won’t get worked out, but at least all sides will be able to say they tried. Get this through your heads Big XII, you can’t replace Missouri’s population by adding TCU, you aren’t going to peel Arkansas off from the SEC, and you aren’t going to keep Missouri by making threats.
unless of course
they poach Missouri State from the Valley
you can’t replace Missouri’s population by adding TCU
By that logic...
You can replace UT’s population by adding TCU and Oklahoma’s population by adding Tulsa.
The one thing that the interview seems to allude to is that no offer was made but
discussions did take place. This is how corporations operate all over the globe. They use the thought process of never asking a question they don’t already know the answer to. So the Big Ten calls Mizzou and asks them “If we offer you a spot, what will your response be?” Same with NU and Rutgers. With that question, no offer was made. Read every quote from every person regarding KK’s story earlier in the week. They all deny an offer but I don’t recall anyone denying a conversation.
Mr. Boobe is crazy if he thinks he is going into the KC meetings and going to strong arm a school into saying yes or no. If he asks Mizzou and NE if they are in or out, they are going to say they are in unless someone shows up with a better deal. Then, Boobe is going to be asked what assurances he can offer to guarantee that the Big 12 is going to be the best deal moving forward. If he says the Big 12 is the best deal now, MU and NU have their answer. If he has a plan, he better show his cards fast.
WHB now has an article up from that interview on their site
just put it up as a Fanshot here
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Without a doubt
The scariest thing about leavin the Big XII is losing that KU/MU rivalry.
Imagine NC and Duke splitting conferences an only playing when they happen to meet in the NCAA Tourney. As much as I hate the Jayhawks, I’d absolutely miss them if we have to wait 3+ years for a chance to play them. I hate them, but I get all antsy in my pantsy when the Border War nears.
by KCTiger on May 13, 2010 2:09 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
But.....
The thought of bolting with NE with CU going Pac 10 and part of the south either going SEC or Pac 10 or both. Means leaving ku (and unfortunately KSU) on an island that no one wants.
Which is what we all contend ku is and will always will be. That part makes me smile. It may never happen and probably won’t, but I giggle just thinking about it. This would truly be the atomic finger to our neighbors to the west.
I realize alot of the reason the big10 wants mizzou is geography based...
but it is kinda funny that the big 10 is like stfu ku we want mizzou
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I think this whole “Missouri to the big 10 is a foregone conclusion” is way off base. I think it is very likely that Big 10 backs off this whole 14/16 team kick and just takes one school; and if Mizzou isn’t that school, Alden, Deaton and Forsee all have egg on their faces and few allies among their peers in the big 12. I’m not at all feeling good about this.
Three questions:
1) What has Alden done that would result in him having egg on his face?
2) What has Deaton done that would result in him having egg on his face?
3) What has Forsee done that would result in him having egg on his face?
Jay Nixon overstepped his bounds. Fans complained a lot. All Alden has said is a) he’s concerned about the awful TV deal (who isn’t?) and b) he’s happy in the Big 12. Fans might have egg on their face (although I think the odds of the Big Ten moving to just 12 teams are at about 10% max), as could Nixon, but for all the “Mizzou refuses to mend fences” crap or whatever, Mizzou has actually done very little wrong.
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I hear ya
and maybe I’m letting the message boards and other internet commentary get to me, but I personally would have liked a strong “We are proud members of the Big 12”, and left it at that. Whatever happens in the background is fine, but there was no reason for the media to know that these three met to discuss leaving the conference before they had an actual offer to leave the conference. I would have kept the dialog focused on lets work on ways to improve this conference and gotten in front of that publicly. Again, just my two cents, I’m far from well-informed on this and even further from an expert.
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