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MIZZOUEXPANSIONAPALOOZA 2010™: The Case for the Big East

[note: most of this post was written before I read BOTC’s similar piece; good to know that others are thinking along the same lines]

When Nebraska announced its move from the Big 12 to the Big Ten on Friday and Chancellor Harvey Perlman cast blame on Missouri’s wandering eye, he became the first man ever to jump off a ledge because another man peered through a window.  He also may have been the first jumper ever to bring the whole building down with him, as we wait to hear whether the Big 12 will hold together as a ten-team league, or whether five more members will leave for the Pac-10 and/or SEC.

 

The analogy is strained, though, because the Huskers are actually softly parachuting into a giant pillow of cash.  The schools left behind – Missouri, Kansas, Kansas State, Iowa State and Baylor – are the ones in free-fall.  And as seems reasonable for folks who see the pavement approaching at terminal velocity, alumni and fans of these schools have reacted in ways ranging from serious concern to all-out panic.

 

But fear not.  Only a failure of imagination can keep Missouri out of a major conference.  And it may not be the major conference that people have been discussing for the past year.

Star-divide

If the Big 12 implodes (and the chatter this morning is that a lot of love and $17 million per annum might hold this ragtag bunch together), is there a chance that Mizzou could still sneak in to the Big Ten or the SEC?  Sure, especially if those leagues evolve into sixteen-team superconferences.  Missouri should jump if offered.

 

But that chance is based on the hope that someone who doesn’t need you invites you to their awesome party.  And hope is not a strategy, not when you’re at someone else’s mercy.  Missouri doesn’t need hope.  It needs a plan.  Here’s a start.

 

What do needy schools need?  A needy conference.  Right now, no league is needier than the Big East.  And despite preconceptions, the Big East could be a surprisingly good fit for the heartland quartet (Baylor, you’re on your own*) that has been together since Kansas State Agricultural College joined the Missouri Valley Conference in 1912.

 

[*This is speculation; I’ve not read the Big 12 governing documents nor have I brushed up on the relevant law, but it may be worth sticking with Baylor and having a five-school Big 12 merge with the Big East – rather than leaving the Big 12 individually and joining the Big East – if keeping the Big 12 intact as a legal entity protects the remaining schools’ ability to collect payments due from the departing Big 12 schools]

 

As currently constructed, the Big East is a big-time football anachronism: an eight-team league, four teams short of the number needed for a championship game, and a single defection away from oblivion.  Though a sixteen-team monster in basketball, the Big East is a solid but unspectacular football alliance consisting of Cincinnati, Connecticut, Louisville, Pittsburgh, Rutgers, South Florida, Syracuse and West Virginia.  And at least three of those schools – Connecticut, Rutgers and Syracuse – stand to be potential targets for expansion by the Big Ten and/or ACC.  The Big East needs to expand to get to a championship game; it also needs to expand to ensure its survival as a football conference.

 

The name is a misnomer.  In football, the conference is Big East-ish, with Cincinnati, Louisville, Pitt and West Virginia – none exactly eastern – making up half the league, and the regional sore thumb that is South Florida sitting hard by the Gulf.  Add Iowa State, Kansas State, Kansas, Missouri and special guest Memphis (a notion I had even before learning that Fed Ex is willing to pay top dollar for Memphis to join a BCS league), and you can draw a tidy line from Ames to Manhattan to Lawrence to Columbia to Memphis to Louisville to Cincinnati to Pittsburgh to Morgantown that reveals a surprisingly natural geographic continuity.  More than that, the schools possess a surprisingly natural institutional continuity.  The four former Big 12 schools and Memphis are all public universities with between 20,000 and 31,000 students (Baylor, private, has just under 15,000).  Seven of the eight current Big East football schools are public institutions (Syracuse is not), and five of them have enrollments between 19,600 and 29,000 students (Cincinnati at 39,700, USF at 44,000 and Rutgers at 52,500 are the outliers).  These schools fit together.  And with thirteen members for football, you have enough to have a championship game, enough to survive one or more departures, and flexibility to add others if need be (also known as Baylor’s best hope).

 

Moreover, there is a continuity of football culture.  Here are the average home attendances for each school in 2009:

 

Missouri  64,120

West Virginia  57,317

South Florida     52,553

Kansas  50,581

Rutgers  49,113

Kansas State  46,763

Iowa State  46,242

Syracuse  39,043

Connecticut  38,229

Cincinnati  33,957

Louisville  32,450

Memphis 25,795

 

Memphis’s average attendance would almost certainly jump considerably with a move to a BCS conference; Baylor, for reference, averaged 36,306 in 2009, a number sure to drop if separated from the other five members of the Big 12 South.

 

The new league would break easily into a seven-team Western division of Missouri, Kansas, Kansas State, Iowa State, Memphis, Louisville and Cincinnati, with a six-team Eastern division of Rutgers, Syracuse, Pittsburgh, West Virginia, Connecticut and South Florida.  If you feel compelled to even things out a seven teams per division, add someone like Temple (or Baylor and ship Cincinnati to the East), but keep in mind that one of the existing Big East schools could easily jump to the Big Ten or ACC, bringing the number from thirteen to twelve.  Scheduling would follow the old Big 12 model; play everyone in your division each year, and play an alternating roster of three teams from the other division.  The division winners face off in a championship game, perhaps in a domed NFL stadium that sits near the geographic center of the reconfigured league (that’s St. Louis if you didn’t crack the code), or in an open-air NFL stadium in Kansas City, Pittsburgh or Cincinnati.

 

But, you wonder, when you add in the Big East’s non-football schools, wouldn’t a 20 or 21-team basketball conference be unruly?  Perhaps, but in the best possible way.  The Big East is already a spectacular hoops league.  The five proposed new members include both teams that played for the 2008 national title, plus two schools that have been to the Elite Eight since then.  It becomes a mind-blowing assemblage of basketball power.  And the scheduling is far tidier than you might expect. 

 

First split the league in two, creating the Heartland and Coastal sub-conferences.  Then split each sub-conference into two divisions – the Plains and Central divisions in the Heartland, the Mid-Atlantic and Northeast divisions in the Coastal.

 

Plains:  Missouri, Kansas, Kansas State, Iowa State, Marquette

Central: DePaul, Notre Dame, Memphis, Louisville, Cincinnati, South Florida

Mid-Atlantic: Pittsburgh, West Virginia, Georgetown, Villanova, Rutgers

Northeast: St. John’s, Seton Hall, Syracuse, Providence, Connecticut

 

[In a perfect world, Marquette and DePaul would be in the same division, but something had to give.  Marquette gives Iowa State a reasonable geographic partner, and Memphis goes to the Central instead of the Plains because of proximity to Louisville and as a bridge to South Florida].

 

[Note that the Central has six teams instead of five; as soon as one team leaves – say, Notre Dame – we’ll fix that].

 

Each team plays each member of its division home and away each season; each member of the other division in the sub-conference once each year; and each member of one of the divisions in the other sub-conference once each season, alternating between divisions every year. That makes for an 18-game schedule (assuming four five-team divisions).  For instance, in the first year, Mizzou would play each team in the Plains twice, each team in the Central once (three home, two away), and each team in the Mid-Atlantic once (two home, three away).  The next year, they would play the Northeast schools instead of the Mid-Atlantic teams.

 

That’s a manageable regular season.  But what about the conference tournament?  How do you have a tournament with 20 teams?  You don’t.  You have two tournaments.

 

We’ve heard repeatedly that conference realignment is all about football because that’s where the money is.  And it’s true, up to a point.  But as the recent $10.8 billion agreement between the NCAA and CBS and Turner for the rights to the next fourteen NCAA basketball tournaments shows, there is money to be made in college basketball.  When a conference is deciding how to best generate revenue, it has to exploit its most valuable assets.  And in the new supersized Big East, basketball is a license to print money.

 

Here’s a modest proposal.  Each March, the Heartland basketball teams – Missouri, Kansas, Kansas State, Iowa State, Memphis, Marquette, DePaul, Louisville, Cincinnati, South Florida (and Notre Dame if still around) – meet in St. Louis, while the Coastal programs – Pittsburgh, West Virginia, Georgetown, Villanova, Rutgers, St. John’s, Providence, Connecticut, Syracuse and Seton Hall – meet in New York.  Each site plays a tournament to determine the sub-conference champion.  And two days later, the two winners meet at Madison Square Garden for the Big East Tournament Championship.

 

Sounds crazy.  Crazy awesome.  It makes the tournament far more accessible, especially for fans of the schools in the Heartland, and allows the league to double its ticket sales, while making a huge splash on television.

 

We’ve plotted out football and men’s basketball.  There’s still legitimate concern over costs associated with non-revenue sports.  Can Iowa State really afford to travel regularly to Providence, Seton Hall and UConn for track meets and softball games?  Probably not.  So don’t.

 

The easy answer is to treat the two sub-conferences as separate leagues for non-revenue sports.  Get all the teams together for a conference tournament if you must, but keep the regular seasons contained within the ten-team Heartland and Coastal leagues.  Problem solved.

 

This plan gives Missouri, Kansas, Kansas State and Iowa State a soft place to land that is far preferable to the Mountain West or Conference USA, while allowing those schools to maintain ancient rivalries and to have familiar partners in a new conference, and it gives Memphis a giant upgrade in conference affiliation.  It gives the Big East access to televisions in Wichita, Kansas City, St. Louis, Des Moines and Memphis, and to top-flight facilities for conference championships, including two NFL stadiums, an NBA arena (Memphis), an NHL arena (St. Louis), and the best indoor facility currently without a pro franchise (Kansas City).  The Big East gets existing rivalries that are among the best in the country, including a football game (Missouri vs. Kansas) that has drawn more than 70,000 fans in recent years.  It gets stability in football, plus the conference championship game that it has never had.  And it gets marquee basketball programs that make it – inarguably – the premier hoops conference in the nation.

 

That’s a pretty good deal for everyone.

 

This isn’t a finished plan, it’s a conversation starter.  It’s the work of one guy who spent some time thinking about it over a weekend.  Surely, a group of college administrators and TV execs could sit around a table and improve on it.  Or a group of savvy readers in the comments section.  Have at it.

 

 

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Two things that I think are worth adding...

I completely agree with this article, and there are two additional pieces of information that I think are relevant here:

1) You don’t hire Paul Tagliabue if you intend on just sitting back and letting the Big Ten pick you apart (ala what appears to have happened in the Big 12). Tagliabue comes with a steep price, and in my opinion, you don’t hire him just so he can advise you on how to best desolve your league.

2) Notre Dame appears to be the grand prize for the Big Ten, as has been the case for the last 20+ years. The best way to get Notre Dame is to destroy the Big East and leave their non-football sports homeless. So if you’re the Big East, isn’t the best way to counter that potential move to add teams and stabilize your own conference? If the Big East has 10-12 football teams and 20 basketball teams, what is the incentive for Notre Dame to move, given ND’s stated intentions of remaining independent in football?

I really think this move makes a ton of sense, and I personally prefer it to the MWC scenario. I believe the media money for football would be better given the population numbers in the respective footprints, and the basketball would be insanely good. Mizzou football would have a reasonable chance in that conference of winning it somewhat regularly and increasing exposure through high profile bowls and high rankings.

by apr67d on Jun 14, 2010 9:39 AM CDT reply actions  

Building on that

Grabbing the midwestern schools and keeping at least two of the three potential Big Ten targets (Syracuse, Rutgers and Pitt) effectively stunts Big Ten expansion prospects. Assuming they can’t grab Texas, their only option would be the ACC which is much more stable than the Big East. It would be a nice up-yours to Jim Delany from the Big East-Big XII. If they could keep Notre Dame independent (or even force them to join the Big East in football), it would be icing on the cake.

by Gaknar on Jun 14, 2010 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

Nice work Michael

and a rec.
I did enjoy the possibility :)

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by Steve_Chiefs on Jun 14, 2010 6:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

I like your logic here

I also like that it really brings an emphasis to basketball and the possible revenue explosion that such aliment could bring (in addition to football). For what it’s worth, there is a “Big East Network” that I’ve seen football games on (one of the Indy stations had that feed on their 3rd digital channel), so it would be easy to get non-national games on TV in CoMo and the surrounding area (thinking CW channel in town).

My only concern, if there is one, is will a move like this hurt our non-revenue sports to a point that the momentum that has been built up these last few years is lost? I understand that for anything to not happen, we’re going to have to have the Big 12 to stay in place, to maintain the RPI of our baseball team (wrestling seems to just take on whomever, even if it’s in a dark alley). I mentioned last week that going to the Big 10 could hurt our baseball and softball chances, and soccer. I would think that the Big East could elevate soccer, and maybe even entice a lacross team (that would be a party).

I suppose it’s all smoke and mirrors until something actually happens.

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by Ausgiano on Jun 14, 2010 9:58 AM CDT reply actions  

I don't know what the Big East's media situation is...

…but presumably they would renegotiate their contract after expansion. For once, the east coast media bias could work in our favor. If the payout was good enough, it might allow non-revenue sports to work. One of the reasons Texas is so successful across the board is that they make more money than they need to maintain their core programs and can thus use that money to fund their non-revenue sports. By all accounts, the Mizzou AD is essentially self-sufficient at this point, so a decent-sized payout might allow them to divert more funds to their other programs.

by Gaknar on Jun 14, 2010 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

uh....the east coast media bias argument

doesn’t really apply to schools in the Central Time Zone.

by CPC on Jun 14, 2010 10:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

No

I’m saying that the Big East’s popularity in the media would work to the conference’s advantage in negotiating a new media deal. It was something of a joke.

by Gaknar on Jun 14, 2010 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

Especially with regards to basketball

Every year it seems like ESPN is all over the Big East’s nuts.

by TheHamburglar on Jun 14, 2010 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

Here's some thinking that came out of left field this morning:

If FedEx is willing to drop $10 million on Memphis getting into a BCS conference, why doesn’t the Big East sell the naming rights to the conference to them? FedEx Conference with the Carrier Division and the Papa John’s Division. Just making up numbers, if they can get $10 million for a conference sponsorship and $5 million for each of the divisions, you’re looking at $20 million to split up between the member schools, or around $1 million per school (in Atch’s scenario).

by CPC on Jun 14, 2010 10:03 AM CDT reply actions  

let me start by saying that i just read this twice, the second time actively looking for a flaw/something i didnt like

it never happened. i dont know why, but this idea seems literally perfect to me. i love it. that is an understatement.

that being said, my question is: how likely is this, in any recognizable form? is there any chance officials from mu, ku, big east, etc are sitting at a table discussing a plan that looks like this?

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by elpjuly4 on Jun 14, 2010 10:08 AM CDT reply actions  

That's the question right now.

It makes perfect sense, especially if the Big East truly wants to not only survive the Big Ten’s wandering eye, but also thrive. But until we hear from Big East officials one way or another, all we know is that it’s a popular idea with Rock M Nation, Bring On the Cats, and the Washington Examiner, and nothing more.

by Bill C. on Jun 14, 2010 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

The obvious answer, Bill . . .

is for you to get on the phone with Paul Tagliabue. I have some errands to run, so if you need any help with the specifics when talking to the man, call me on my cell.

by Michael Atchison on Jun 14, 2010 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

hey, im gonna make a map of the big 20

because im curious, and i think itll look even cleaner than you say it will.

gimme 20 minutes

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by elpjuly4 on Jun 14, 2010 10:22 AM CDT reply actions  

I've made a crude one myself . . .

. . . and the only thing that makes it look strange is South Florida. When you break the league into the two ten-team divisions, neither has a geographic footprint larger than the Big Ten’s (if you exclude USF).

by Michael Atchison on Jun 14, 2010 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

Question based on the article. I do like this scenario a lot.

Prioritize for me the following. I would say based on what you believe to be the best for Mizzou as opposed to the most likely to actually happen.

1. Stay in a 10 team Big 12 with a ~$17 million payout per school.
2. Join the Big 10
3. Join the Big East using the scenario above.
4. Join the SEC
5 Join the MWC or Conf USA.

by nwtiger1 on Jun 14, 2010 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

Preference

2
4
3
1
5

I’d put 1 above 3 if I knew it wasn’t just a bandaid on a bullet wound.

by RPT on Jun 14, 2010 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I'm in the same boat.

Technically option 1 would be okay, it’s just that it’s not even remotely a long-term solution.

by Bill C. on Jun 14, 2010 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

This is exactly the way I would lay it out as well.

The questions are there on 3 as Atch points out below but if things did work out as the article states, I think it would be longer term than the Conference formrely known as the Big XII

by nwtiger1 on Jun 14, 2010 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

Here's what I think

1. Big Ten
2. SEC
3. I’m caught between the ten-team Big 12 and the Big East model. The Big 12 feels comfortable, but it doesn’t feel safe. The wheels could all fall off at any time. At the same time, the Big East idea isn’t safe if the Big Ten and SEC move toward 16 teams and the ACC joins in. That puts UConn, Rutgers, Pitt and Syracuse in play for the Big Ten and/or ACC, and if the SEC wants to get to 16, I think they have to look at West Virginia, Texas A&M, Mizzou and Cincinnati (opens up four new states within their region, but not currently in their footprint).

1,000,000. MWC/USA

by Michael Atchison on Jun 14, 2010 10:39 AM CDT reply actions  

Frankly, the Big East would be about 4th on my wish list

Mostly due to travel concerns for minor sports. I’d feel the same about the Pac 10. But it’s a nice card to hold on to and beats the heck out of the Mountain West.

by merlin1 on Jun 14, 2010 10:43 AM CDT reply actions  

Under the plan . . .

the minor sports don’t travel farther than Cincinnati or Memphis (save for the occasional trip to Tampa).

by Michael Atchison on Jun 14, 2010 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

I made a map!


View Big East Expansion in a larger map

Making fun of the "Mizzou Needs a Fullback" Club since...well, for a while, anyway.

by jaeger on Jun 14, 2010 10:46 AM CDT reply actions  

Kansas University: Continuing Education

hahaha YOU AREN’T PROMOTING CONFERENCE UNITY

by Gaknar on Jun 14, 2010 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

Here it is.

Whoever said, 'It's not whether you win or lose that counts,' probably lost.
Martina Navratilova

by tigers and chiefs fan on Jun 14, 2010 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

close

except that Syracuse is located in Upstate New York…not in NYC.

by stumpycuse on Jun 14, 2010 7:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

One of the good aspects . . .

. . . of this plan is that it would connect us to more densely populated areas of the country, thus stabilizing the income sources. Plus, it would create a conference that would actively compete with the Big 10 and SEC for viewers and sports dollars. The time zone doesn’t have to be a problem, since it would allow for early (coastal), afternoon (inland) and evening (either) games with acceptable starting times for the local crowds. This would also, in effect, leave the PAC a long way from where most of the big college action is happening, further diluting their appeal to a large part of the nation’s media and viewership, and weakening their overall relevance to the national title scenes.

Great article . . . well thought out, and definitely feasible . . . at least to me – don’t know about Tagliabue. :-)

by countrycal on Jun 14, 2010 11:15 AM CDT reply actions  

The genius of this plan?

Guaranteed yearly access to OPP.

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by Other Side of the Pillow on Jun 14, 2010 11:46 AM CDT reply actions  

occam's razor baby

keep it simple, football only members, build a basketball and other sports conference with the more easily available d1 hoops programs…the big east has 8 catholic schools in urban settings, they will only add football teams to match catholic schools in urban settings or notre dame…you are really talking about adding 8 to get to 12 in football…

football only is the only way the big east would expand.

by p showard chunt on Jun 14, 2010 12:50 PM CDT reply actions  

Your Rutgers enrollment figure

is a bit misleading—52 K is the system-wide number that includes the Newark and Camden campuses, which would be the equivalent of saying that Mizzou’s enrollment consists of the combined figures for UMC, UMKC, and UMSL. When the media says “Rutgers”, what it really means is “Rutgers-New Brunswick”, which is actually very close to the same size as Mizzou (Wikipedia says 28 K undergrad, 8 K grad),

by Professor Chaos on Jun 14, 2010 3:49 PM CDT reply actions  

Thanks.

I was whipping through figures quickly. I should have caught that.

by Michael Atchison on Jun 14, 2010 9:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

South Florida looks weird...

Can we add Temple instead?

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by Kpz1234 on Jun 14, 2010 5:19 PM CDT reply actions  

That was my point exactly

This would be a big positive step. Travel really wouldnt even be an issue other than two or three games with the east side. We need to take a serious look at this.

Stanley D. McCarty

by USAFMEDIC on Jun 14, 2010 6:00 PM CDT reply actions  

If nothing else comes out of this big mess, at least...

I got an email with the subject “Mike Alden is now following you on Twitter!” out of it. That’s something I can treasure forever.

by apr67d on Jun 14, 2010 6:24 PM CDT reply actions  

Big XII needs to...

Go after Louisville and Memphis and give us 12 teams again. That would give Memphis a BCS conference and wouldn’t hurt our basketball powerhouse one bit.

by JASiege on Jun 17, 2010 1:08 AM CDT reply actions  

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