Stuff Mizzou People Like #5
In the tradition of Stuff White People Like (which was later brilliantly parodied by Every Day Should Be Saturday), I'm going to intermittently kill time this offseason by examining Stuff Mizzou People Like. Today's edition:
Expanding Faurot Field
Don't tell Mizzou People size doesn't matter, damn it. What good is the motion of the sea of gold if attendance figures aren't big enough to whip out and compare favorably with Texas and Oklahoma? For Mizzou People, it's all about the size of Faurot Field, and no matter what, it'll never be big enough. That's why Mizzou People are constantly in favor of expanding Memorial Stadium and creating bigger attendance figures for games at Faurot Field.
Oh, what's that haters say? Mizzou only had one attendance figure in 2009 greater than or equal to the established 71,004-person capacity? Mizzou People would like to remind you that this fact is irrelevant because BIGGER IS BETTER I CAN'T HEAR YOU LALALALA.
It might not be the best economic climate to raise money for stadium renovations. The expansion would probably create seats for more opposing fans than it would Mizzou fans. Lack of seats probably isn't what's keeping casual fans from making the drive from either Kansas City or St. Louis. And then there's that whole "water table" argument. Mizzou People defer to their spokesperson, Gatling Gun Abe Lincoln, to refute these concerns:

Let's raise a glass in honor of Mizzou People for fighting the good fight. Let's take heed in their wisdom and embrace that the only thing better than actually filling the stadium as it currently exists is making an even bigger stadium to leave partially empty. In your honor, after the jump I present to you, the new Faurot Field
THE LIST:
No. 1 - Comparing everyone to Clarence Gilbert
No. 2 - Bitching at Columbia Tribune beat writers
No. 3 - Fullbacks, fullback-related jokes, and beating dead horses
No. 4 - The Clinton Club
No. 5 - Expanding Faurot Field
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Funny thing is...
A barebones version of this post had been sitting in the drafts for about five-six weeks. That roundtable about it just reminded me to finish it.
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I'm not saying it should happen (because it would be stupid),
but if they were to expand where the Rock M is, to make an overhang over it. It would look pretty cool.
But 71,000 is a good number for Mizzou.
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I detect a bit of a mocking tone
There are certainly games (most of them) when not every seat is filled, and the corners look bare. But I don’t believe we have more than 61,000 or so permanent seats in the stadium, so it’s not completely accurate to say we don’t “fill the stadium” when we have more than 61,000 people there. If we listed 61,000 as capacity and the hill as overflow, we’d have 105% attendance each week.
Detect a bit of a mocking tone?
Five articles into the series? Surely you jest.
All I will say is this: Missouri has not reached a point where the ticket demand exceeds the supply. That’s why I think expanding (cash cow east side luxury suites excluded) would be irrational.
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All you can hope for is more successful seasons
No more 66-0 losses at home, that really turns the fans off. Remember it was still happening just 10 years ago. I suppose some have not yet gotten over that
Ya...and no losses of any kind to New Mexico, Troy, and Bowling Green please.
Annoying You Since 1986
If we had a fullback and the beat writers weren't anti-Mizzou
we would have at least 95,000 showing up on game days. FIRE PINKEL!
Clearly the problem is Alden and Forsee
If they had expanded the stadium years ago, Mizzou would be in the Big Ten right now.
I think I read on the Tribune Comments section
that the Big 10 specifically told them this in 2006 (yes, when Forsee was at Sprint) and they still bungled it. Clearly, they are intentionally trying to hurt the University by destroying our invitations to the Big 10.
It's also worthwhile to point out
that Forsee’s job is entirely to oversee our athletics programs.
/sarcasm
by jschooltiger on Jul 21, 2010 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, to be fair, Elson Floyd isn't working here anymore
largely because of his failure to properly oversee our athletics program. Despite the increase in donations and goodwill in Jeff City that he secured for the academic programs.
Stuff Mizzou People Like
I am a fan of RMN, and have been since its inception. I like the analysis, the insight, and the humor…usually. The exception lies with the “Stuff Mizzou People Like” series, which sometimes comes across as a condescending (and occasionally off the mark (see: The Clinton Club)) jab at Tiger Nation.
I’m a fourth generation Mizzou grad who grew up in Mid-Missouri, and most of my family still lives there (though we have many cousins in Dallas). I truly appreciate your contributions to RMN, RPT, and despite coming to us from Texas, you are obviously a True Tiger at heart. It’s just that sometimes these posts remind me of Jerry Seinfeld’s dentist, who took every opportunity to make jokes at the expense of Judaism shortly after converting. (For the record, I’m not an anti-dentite.)
I hope we can still be friends.
CT
by CrouchingTiger on Jul 21, 2010 12:14 PM CDT reply actions
Agree CT
This seems to be a poor attempt at humor that is condescending more than anything else. While I agree that we should be able to laugh at ourselves, it’s hard for me to laugh at over-broad observations that I, as a Mizzou fan, can’t relate to or agree with.
I'd agree more with you if these weren't so on target
Admittedly, the circles I run in don’t care all that much about capacity (although my approaching real-person-ness might change that soon), but every other one I’ve seen has been right on target, and let me be the first to admit that I see a lot of myself in them.
For example:
My father and I have had repeated ongoing conversations about the similarities and differences between Kim English and Clarence Gilbert.
I myself am the author of some of the more notorious “FULLBACK!>?” jokes on this website (I’m particularly proud of one wherein I claimed that Blaine Gabbert should play fullback), as well as several of the more heated, less diplomatic serious responses to people that insist that Pinkel sucks for using the offensive system that he does.
Just…just look at the Tribune comment threads. They hurt my soul.
And yeah, the fact that we have large numbers of empty seats right next to the court at tip-off makes us the subject of scorn (I’ve heard about it from all sorts of different people, including some with no interest whatsoever in making fun of Mizzou).
I could see it being superior or condescending if it weren’t self-deprecating, but it is. While it’s true that much of the commentary here is far, far more levelheaded than anywhere else, we ourselves are prone to occasional outbursts of the same kind of fan insanity that plagues all franchises. It’s meant in good fun, that’s all.
Making fun of the "Mizzou Needs a Fullback" Club since...well, for a while, anyway.
I'm with CT.
It’s not fair to RPT whatsoever, but this series rubs the wrong way coming from a Texan who (presumably) has somewhat limited exposure to the state of Missouri and its fanbase. Content is not the issue — indeed, 99.9% of this stuff is true and, at the very least, mock-worthy enough to fill some dead space over the summer.
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I grew up in Missouri.
Have been a fan as long as I can remember, I find these hillarious. I don’t think the fact that he is from Texas has anything to do with this. Personally, I think those that find these offensive are proving the “Truth Hurts” mentality. There has really been nothing said in any of these posts that aren’t true. I’m sure RPT feels bas if he offended anyone with these posts as they are definately not his intent, but to compare his feeling on the Tigers to the dentist on seinfeld is way off base. The guy goes to mizzou and runs a blog that gives some of the best Tiger coverage around, and in the slow period of the summer decides to make sarcastic jokes about the fan base, and I don’t see any problem with it.
I’m really not trying to attack any of you that disagree with anything here, as your all entitled to your opinion, but honestly, if you don’t like the series, don’t click on them and read them. Anyone who reads this site with regularity can say I’m not one to suck up to the owners of the site, in fact I probably have more disagreements with them than anyone, but he is not attacking the fan base in these posts. Facts are, we had one sellout all of last season, and yet people want to expand. The other posts have similar concepts and there is nothing wrong with them.
Annoying You Since 1986
To clarify
I don’t think “offended” is what I felt at all, more like annoyed. The analogy to the Seinfeld dentist was hyperbole…but I got to make a Seinfeld reference, and hopefully it helped get my point across. Mu211 pretty much nailed my thoughts and feelings. Occasionally, these (and other RMN) posts can take a patronizing, high-and-mighty tone, which especially chaps my ass hiney when the subject is “Mizzou People” and the mouthpiece is from Texas. I’m not saying I’m right, I’m just saying.
Still love youguys though.
by CrouchingTiger on Jul 21, 2010 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions
So what your saying is...
That if he was from Missouri he wouldn’t realize that its stupid to expand a stadium that you already aren’t filling?
Annoying You Since 1986
Oh MUTIGERS86
I see what you did there – you tried to make my comments sound foolish. Don’t you have a breaking Big Ten realignment blockbuster you could drop on us? With 100% certainty?? From your buddy? On the inside?? Who knows for sure that we’re going to the Big Ten?
by CrouchingTiger on Jul 21, 2010 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions
It was buddies actually.
About 37 or 40 of them. I can’t remember how many I said. Frankly, saying that someones comments or criticisms about Mizzou or its fan base are off base because they weren’t born in the same state as you is foolish. I don’t have to try.
Annoying You Since 1986
Good grief
I’m a Missouri native and I have no problem with these posts. It’s no different than a Jackson County Chiefs fan laughing at JoCo Chiefs fans for leaving the stadium at the end of the 3rd quarter to “beat traffic”. We rag on each other but at the end of the day we’re all on the same side.
A few things:
MUTIGERS86, you don’t get it. It’s not the CONTENT of the article…it’s the haughty TONE. And it’s not so much the fact that RPT was born in a different state…it’s the amount of time he has been exposed to Mizzou’s fanbase. Forget it. Why don’t you just call up your buddies Bigfoot and the Loch Ness Monster, go over to Bob Knight’s house that he has in Columbia, and flip on the Big Ten network where we will be playing next year? Do that. Do exactly that.
Gaknar, I like the stuff you throw out on here. So I’m sorry to say this, but that is a piss poor analogy. It just is. A better analogy would be someone from Texas moving to Kansas City and becoming a Chiefs fan, and then, after being here a few years, patronizing all Chiefs fans for a number of things that “we” do.
by CrouchingTiger on Jul 21, 2010 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions
I think its sad...
How many people can’t take criticism, and in retaliation, resort to personal attacks.
That being said, I think its unfortunate for everyone that has to work with you in their careers. By your thinking, a new employee coming into a job should sit there and shut their mouths even if they see problems and can offer new thoughts and ideas. Fortunately, my company respects peoples opinions on matters, no matter how new to the scene any employee is.
As far as the tone, that is the whole point of the piece. Read the intro to the article where he links the “Stuff White People Like.” It is a mocking piece. Thats what he’s doing. Its supposed to be sarcastic. It’s not meant to insult you, but take real things that the Mizzou fan base does that are ridiculous, and make fun of them for it. If you don’t like the basis for the piece, you should have read the introduction, and done something else.
Annoying You Since 1986
CT, I have a question for you
Have you read the actual inspiration for this series, which is the site “Stuff White People Like?”
I’m just curious because I wonder what you think of the “tone” of those pieces.
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I could understand the similarities b/w the two if...
The author of Stuff White People Like was Hispanic but had started hanging out with white people five years ago. If that was the case, Stuff White People like would no longer read as self-deprecating but, rather, condescending or patronizing as Stuff Mizzou People Like reads.
So how long do you have to live in Missouri before you can criticize the fan base?
10 years? 20? Or do you have to be born in Missouri for your opinion to matter?
Annoying You Since 1986
Come on...really?
Seriously…if you have a problem with the tone, then fine. But…Ross is an out-of-stater. I am an out-of-stater. Ghtd36 is an out-of-stater. Beef is an out-of-stater. It doesn’t take long to figure out the general personality of a fanbase. And if the threshold is a decade or something…then…I’ve been here 13 years now, and I found the sentiment to be dead on.
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Agreed that it doesn't take long to figure out a fan base, but...
…his argument is NOT about in-state vs. out-of-state. The more Mizzou fans across the nation, the merrier. How silly would it be otherwise?
When I think deep thoughts about why this series irks me, the issue comes down to who is best-suited to deliver the message. Certainly the best person to author Stuff White People Like is a cultured white person who likes coffee, farmer’s markets and yoga, among other “white” things. If the author is not that person, then the self-righteous tone is not nearly as entertaining.
When it comes to who is best suited to author Stuff Mizzou People Like, clearly RPT is a proud alum who has proven his “True Son-ness.” Naturally, though, some people are not going to be as entertained by the mocking because RPT is admittedly “just a white guy from the suburbs of Dallas who made his way up to Columbia, Missouri for an education” rather than a fourth generation Mizzou fan who sat through the 5th down or Matt Davison’s kick.
Guilty as charged. As I said this morning, it’s not fair to RPT whatsoever, so I’m over it.
Go Tigers.
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I own the book “Stuff White People Like.” Thank you for explaining to me why it is funny. I hope we can chat again tomorrow, and you can explain to me why Marisa Miller is hot and why Vegas is fun. I am done trying to explain my initial point to you.
Re: me being a terrible co-employee and a hater of revolutionary ideas…wow. Pretty healthy leap you took there, from “I think RPT’s writing about Mizzou sports is sometimes…SOMETIMES…annoying and self-righteous” to “I hate anyone who I have ever worked with who has suggested a way to improve things.” I am totally open to new ideas, from new co-employees or old. In fact, just the other day, my secretary was like, “There’s german chocolate cake in the break room,” and that had never happened before!!! I think it’s good that your company is open to new ideas too. Though the fast-food industry is a well-oiled machine by now, there is always room for improvement. Good luck pushing your idea for “french-fry straws” through to the brass!
In all seriousness, this is an INTERNET BOARD. People use it to voice opinions — popular or not, and at least a couple of people agreed w/ me. They also use it to talk smack, and to make their work day go by faster. I’m sorry if you think it’s sad I resorted to a personal attack. That makes me want to put on my widdle frowny poopoo pants and call my Gan-Gan. But seriously dude….suck it up. I’m just throwing out an opinion here. You disagree. I disagree with your disagreement. It’s okay. Go Tigers.
by CrouchingTiger on Jul 21, 2010 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Frankly...
Most of the posters here disagreeing with you would say that you are the one being self righteous. You see to think that because you were born in Missouri and are not a new “fan” that any one who is can not criticize anything about you.
And it’s not a leap. You are saying people new to the fan base can’t critique the current fan base. Thats not far from saying new employees can’t critique their companies.
And not that I owe any thing to you, or should even dignify it with a response, but I am currently working towards my PHD while working in the R&D department of a pharmaceutical company.
Annoying You Since 1986
I appreciate everyone's defense of me here
But even I (the “accused”) think CrouchingTiger is somewhat on point here.
I guess the whole thing is that the condescending tone is intended to be over the top and condescending, though primarily in jest. I can understand how it can be perceived as a “shot” at our own, but I hope that everyone understands that my intentions are good, at the very least. When a fall Saturday rolls around, we’re all together when it comes time to Missouri Waltz.
So, I guess what I’m saying is:

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I take the tone in the same spirit as the “Real Men of Genius” mockery, that is, as part of the joke.
by Gaknar on Jul 21, 2010 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Bingo.
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Please tell me
I’m not the only one with the song stuck in my head during these posts…
“Here’s to you, Mr. Stadium-with-empty-seats-wants-major-expansion guy”
“Here’s to you, Mr. Compare-everyone-to-Clarence-Gilbert”
“Here’s to you, Mr. WE-NEED-A-FULLBACK-RAWWWWWWWR!!! guy”
I'm with you . . .
. . . Gaknar absolutely nailed it! If you have to identify obvious sarcasm as such, and then apologize for it after the fact, then you might as well go back to writing on a sixth-grade level the way we once did in the print media a couple of decades ago.
I like 'em
I think they are on point and funny. I don’t care if he’s from Texas. He writes for a Mizzou blog. He writes entries on a Mizzou blog in July when literally nothing is happening. I don’t think we need to question his fanhood.
Additionally, I think the Seinfeld analogy is misplaced because, he’s writes for a Mizzou blog. That would be like Seinfeld compalining about Tim Whatley making jokes at the expense of Judaism after he became a Rabbi.
I am also not an anti-dentite, but I do think they should be put in different schools.
Actually...
It’s just that sometimes these posts remind me of Jerry Seinfeld’s dentist, who took every opportunity to make jokes at the expense of Judaism shortly after converting.
That may actually be the perfect way to describe this series.
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Oh yeah?
Well…..WELL……well okay then.
by CrouchingTiger on Jul 21, 2010 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions
A piece of absurdity I'd like to point out.
71,004 is the capacity? We can’t round down and just say 71,000? THOSE FOUR PEOPLE MUST BE THE MOST IMPORTANT PEOPLE IN MIZZOU HISTORY.
Making fun of the "Mizzou Needs a Fullback" Club since...well, for a while, anyway.
FWIW
68,349 is still what appears on the AD’s Web site and in the media book. The 71,004 was arrived at by reducing student seating from 18" to 14" wide, but the AD didn’t sell enough tickets for the stadium to reach that capacity (i.e. sold fewer 14" wide seats than were available). So the student seats averaged out to 15.4" wide.
http://www.columbiamissourian.com/stories/2009/10/08/student-seating-myth-busted/
by jschooltiger on Jul 21, 2010 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions
All I'm saying is
my butt is wider than 14", and I’ve lost 30 lbs. since the end of football season.
Making fun of the "Mizzou Needs a Fullback" Club since...well, for a while, anyway.
so all this confusion is your fault...
thanks.
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And oh yeah
That Abe Lincoln Gatling Gun Arm picture is MFing hilarious. And once again wasn’t questioning RPT’s fanhood; that would be sillier than a rollerblading lemur.
I think RPT has been around mizzou aqthletics far long enough to be considered a true son.
I mean really, If I were born in texas, both of my parents were mizzou alums, followed mizzou sports all my life, then I went to CoMo later in life I still wouldn’t be a mizzou fan? Maybe these devils advocate posts would make me mad if they werent so true, but they are and we as mizzou fans need to realize we arent perfect.
Great Odin's Raven I love Mike "The Predator" Dixon!
Ooooh....
I wouldn’t make the “X number of years” case. I’ve called out that fallacy before, and I’d sure as hell be on the wrong end of that debate.
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I have a suggestion . . .
. . . for the next version of “Stuff Mizzou People Like” – transplanted Mizzou fans from Texas who have the gall to act like they are REAL Tiger fans and then make tongue-in-cheek humor of the fanbase’s pet demons.
I welcome it.
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Yes, Please quit actling like a Mizzou fan.
We know Beebe and Dodds planted you here to run this site.
Annoying You Since 1986
(facepalm)
Still just missing the hell out of the point. Never said RPT wasn’t a Tiger…actually, I said the exact opposite. I now respect RPT more for taking what was intended as constructive criticism with a grain of salt, and remaining open-minded. I’m done now.
“On with the chlorophyll!”
by CrouchingTiger on Jul 22, 2010 9:04 AM CDT up reply actions

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