Washington charged with felony deviate sexual assualt
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As much as this sucks...
…I would like to point out that at least Bill and I didn’t double-post.
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And double-delete
Which is still one of the more impressive failures I have ever witnessed.
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I thought
Whaling is illegal except in Japan
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actually...
think D-Sing beat you by about seven minutes with a fanshot, though it appears that has mysteriously disappeared from the site. How convenient…
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THAT'S RIGHT.
BOW BEFORE ME AND MY AWESOME ADMIN POWERS.
/actually, didn’t even see it or delete it…so…IDK, my BFF, Rose.
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Not mysterious
I deleted it because I wanted to avoid the double posting. Since this isn’t my own blog, I defer to the owners/editors.
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by D-Sing on Aug 30, 2010 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, I was at lunch.
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My little work 'puter...
could not handle the double-post-delete scandal, and also gave me the SBNation “drunk at the server” page.
I thought someone had crossed streams. /ghostbuster-ed
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by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Aug 30, 2010 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Amazing how quickly this thing escalated in the past week.
You know, considering that nothing happened to the case for at least two months.
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I would assume that as a good faith gesture...
The columbia PD let the Mizzou athletic dept know that they were going to charge him soon, which is the reason for the timing of the suspension.
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That's what I was thinking as well.
When the suspension was given before any legal actions were taken against Washington, I thought that someone informed Coach Pinkel that legal action was going to move forward. It also might have hinged on whether Washington was going to seek out a deal that supplanted lesser charges instead of being tried on a felony charge.
minor point
the PD doesn’t charge anyone. That’s up to the prosecutor’s office
by jschooltiger on Aug 30, 2010 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Well I have to think that brings Washington's Mizzou career to a close
Hope Kendial is really ready to take a step forward.
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by Transmogrified Tiger on Aug 30, 2010 12:35 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Well...
Keep in mind he still has a redshirt season left. If he can fight this and win in court, it’s not like he will be a draft pick or anything next year, so it wouldnt shock me if he hung around for next year.
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yep.
With Lawrence, Moore, Josey and Murphy, Mizzou’s running backs situation goes from “experienced with upside” to “mostly inexperienced with upside”. There’s still talent there to succeed, it’s just that the potential has to become production earlier than anticipated, particularly for Lawrence (and probably Moore when he gets healthy).
Gotta think this places a lot more pressure on B. Gabbert and his young wideouts. Good news is that Jackson looks to be a starter on Saturday, but his health still has to be a question mark.
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Yeah.
I’m not ready to enter the panic room. Obviously, I’m a big Kendial Lawrence believer (if you haven’t heard), but I think this is a situation where the system is going to carry a lot of the burden. Derrick Washington is incredibly talented, no doubt, but I think the players behind him — specifically Lawrence and Moore — are at least on his same level. Now, a down hasn’t been played and we won’t know anything until 11:30am Saturday, but losing Washington doesn’t make me tear my hair out.
All of that said: this is an incredibly sad story, and I hope it finds a just resolution. Go, justice system, go.
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As MUTIGERS86 says below, he's got the redshirt available
If guilty, we can hopefully guarantee he’ll never be seen on field again – even if his sentence would allow him to play.
If innocent, I would be shocked if this were brought to a conclusion (barring a plea bargain) soon enough that it would make sense to not call this a red-shirt season. However, I find it unlikely that this would still be going next year, so assuming he’s able to stay in school and keep his head down, he should be eligible to play next year – again, assuming innocence.
I just have a hard time
envisioning a scenario where
1. Washington gets cleared legally to the point where he’d be welcomed back for a circumstance like a redshirt
And
2. The process of getting Washington cleared takes less than 12 months
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by Transmogrified Tiger on Aug 30, 2010 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions
If he's cleared legally...
…I can’t imagine a scenario where he ISN’T welcomed back…at least if he wants to be…
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I agree
that post smacks of the “guilt until proven innocent” theme that has pervaded so many athlete-criminal cases.
"You either die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain." - Harvey Dent
I can see the fan base being wary of accepting him back
However, the right thing to do here is to let the law have its say and trust that Justice will be done. Once justice is done, the Athletic Department needs to accept that.
There will always be people who are suspicious of him and any verdict that is handed down, but as long as the AD doesn’t interfere, if he’s found “not guilty”, it will be important for the program to show that they will stick behind kids who are acquitted.
I'd be willing to bet...
…that a substantial portion of the fan base (and ANY fan base) has already made up its mind one way or the other on this case. Which is obviously very unfortunate. Some will always believe the female, some will always believe the male.
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What I'm getting at is that it isn't a binary thing
There’s a lot of possibilities between “we find out the defendant made it all up” and “Washington is guilty of everything and then some”. His case could be reconciled and still be considered “guilty” where the team might not want the association. It’s essentially the line between the “family” and “first class” principles that Pinkel likes to talk about. Now that I type it out I see it more likely that he’d be back, but I could definitely see a “you paid a bunch of money in a plea bargain and we don’t want to pull strings to get you a redshirt so you can get the year back you lost to rape” response from the staff(again, if those were the circumstances, not that I think they are).
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by Transmogrified Tiger on Aug 30, 2010 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions
a criminal case
shouldn’t take a year to conclude if the Defendant is interested in expediting the process. Most people slow play the system but if you want to move it quickly, you can do it much quicker than a civil case.
Well is there any way to delete
my posts saying the case was a piece of shit?
Harsh.
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by tigers and chiefs fan on Aug 30, 2010 12:45 PM CDT reply actions
Does this mean that they actually have a case against him?
I know next to nothing about this process, but why would it take this long to file a charge?
Does it really take two months to inform the school that someone on the football team might be charged with a serious crime?
I am still confused about all of this. Confused, pissed off and sad for all involved.
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by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Aug 30, 2010 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions
They have enough evidence
to think that they can prove the charges in a court of law.
It might be a “she said- he said” type of deal but they also might have physical evidence.
Yes – it’s very sad.
Whoever said, 'It's not whether you win or lose that counts,' probably lost.
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by tigers and chiefs fan on Aug 30, 2010 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions
what evidence though?
unless there was a toxicology report that was required, what additional evidence did the prosecutor need that wasn’t provided by the victim and her roommate. Which should have been in the police report. I hate to be a broken record, but the timing of all of this seems off to me.
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by Ausgiano on Aug 30, 2010 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Prosecutors
don’t always believe everything that is in a police report. There is a good chance that they waited to contact the victim personally. That can take time.
Maybe they were just getting
the tox report back.
If I remember – it takes quite a bit of time.
And maybe there was some maneuvering behind the scenes as suggested by the Mater article, i.e: he was being offered the misd.
Whoever said, 'It's not whether you win or lose that counts,' probably lost.
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by tigers and chiefs fan on Aug 30, 2010 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions
curious what D-Wash's next move would be
and if there’s a deal on the table that allows him to plead guilty have the charge reduced to a misdemeanor. That would allow him to rejoin the team (in theory) since I believe the policy is that any player charged with a felony is suspended until the felony is resolved. Reducing the felony to a misdemeanor, I think, would do that, and Pinkel could bring Washington back onto the team…though I’m not sure how I feel about that, sounds more like a loophole, and I’d rather Mizzou’s athletic department stay away from that kind of look-the-other-way behavior.
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by threadkiller on Aug 30, 2010 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Well played, Mauer.
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I don't think your previous posts . . .
. . . were off target. This case really could have . . . even should have . . . been dealt with more definitively at an earlier date. I have to believe the upcoming football season was being leveraged by one, or both, sides in jockeying for better position regarding the outcome.
On espn.com
in the comment section for this story, I read a pretty interesting comment.
A person who says they are a former MU tutor claims student/tutor meetings are never to take place off campus so the fact they were meeting off campus in the first place should raise some red flags.
I’m trying to look at it half full and that this is a case like the first Ben Rothlesburger (not the second) and this chick just had some kind of grudge after things went south between the two of them.
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I'm really not bringing this up to be glib and I apologize if it comes off that way
I know the Fulmer Cup is a joke and this charge against Washington is serious, but I think the FC does give a good indication of just how fast things have fallen apart at Mizzou. A few weeks ago, Mizzou looked stable and were ranked very low in the FC rankings. With the two recent DUI’s coupled with this charge, it looks like they will jump easily into second place and will be pushing Georgia for first. All within one week.
I'd be surprised if we jumped that much...
…but in the end, it doesn’t really matter.
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Your argument is invalid.
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by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Aug 30, 2010 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Actually, we are only 4 pints behind 2nd place, and
I can’t imagine that if Brinkley gets 4 poiunts for a dwi, that a felony sexual assault wont have at least that.
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by muwxman on Aug 30, 2010 1:18 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
"Adversity introduces a man to himself" -
it’s a great quote. Bonus points if you know who said it first.
I’m not surprised there was another DWI – this is Missouri, after all – the school with the worst luck in the world. But damn, this team is going to have to man the f**k up this year.
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The only thing I know for sure is by Saturday afternoon
we will know what this team is made of….
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alcohol?
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by rhansom on Aug 30, 2010 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Speaking of which...
…you gonna be in The Lou this weekend, bud?
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well
you never got back to me, so no.
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Excuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuse me?
Got back to you? How so? Did I miss a text?
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You won't be?
I plan on killing a bottle of Victory Whiskey.
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not within a ten mile radius of the dome correct?
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Well, unfortunately, I'll be in my condo in Knoxville.
But the tailgating scene down on the Landing is always pretty awesome. My suggestion if you’re heading down to tailgate there? Backpack beer.
-Buy cheap backpack.
-Double garbage bag it as a liner.
-Insert booze and ice.
Sure, there are people selling beer at $3 a pop, but just bring your own, even if you’re riding the MetroLink. Just don’t get dumb and drink ON the MetroLink. You’ll make some bums day when you give him the cheap backpack when you’re done too. You will be a drunk full on rapist.
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Given the topic of this thread...
I think that Sunny in Philadelphia reference may have been best saved for another time, dude.
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Yeah, I really don't care.
Game week, so I’m in a good mood.
Good mood = Always Sunny, as many others here. Plus, this portion of the thread isn’t about the charges.
Take it as you want. Like most people should have after DWash’s indef suspension was announced, I’ve moved on. Sure, I’d like for him to come back if he’s innocent, but as of right now, it’s the Kendial and DeVion show. Time to move on.
Former Mizzourah.net asshat. Have you had a glass of VICTORY WHISKEY today?
my first time going to Edward R Jones dome,
Where is there available parking in that area usually if I don’t have anything reserved ahead of time? I don’t mind walking a mile or so with my family if needed either. We usually park up town in Columbia for games at Faurot field.
Any help or tips would be appreciated. =)
Personally, I do the MetroLink.
There is a huge gravel lot right across from the Ed, and several other lots downtown (remember, Busch and the DrinkScotch are within walking distance).
MetroLink is like $4 roundtrip, free parking, and you get out of the area quicker if you’re looking to bail right after the game. You’re looking at $20 for parking, and getting hassled to get out. I’m guessing you’re coming from the west, so you’ll pass several MetroLink stations on your way in to town.
http://www.metrostlouis.org/MetroLink/stationlist.asp Either page (red or blue), you’re looking at getting off at the Convention Center stop. The stations ABOVE the Convention Center stop are the stops North (red line) and West (blue line) of the dome.
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by Big Head on Aug 30, 2010 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Say what you will about Truman Sports Complex
At least they have plenty of tailgate-friendly parking. Keep your downtown stadiums. Bah.
He's talking about Arrowhead/Kaufmann
I’ve heard it referenced as the Truman Sports Complex since I moved to the area 6 years ago, if memory serves.
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by Transmogrified Tiger on Aug 30, 2010 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh
Thought maybe they renamed ‘Mizzou Sports Park’ and I missed it. I’ve never heard to Arrowhead/Kaufmann actually called Truman Sports Complex, though I knew it was named that.
Tailgating parking does not a great fan experience make
Especially in baseball. The whole fan experience at Kauffman is nothing like Busch, and it’s far more than just the quantity of fans.
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Arrowhead tailgating is tops
Especially when the lone drunk Raiders fan runs by waving his flag, not realizing that the Chiefs are playing the Chargers.
season over.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 30, 2010 1:54 PM CDT reply actions
ha that made me laugh.
for all the wrong reasons.
“no starting running back we’ll never win!!!”
Great Odin's Raven I love Mike "The Predator" Dixon!
Now we have no running back!
And NO FULLBACK! Screwed.
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Just sad all around
There’s nothing about this that isn’t Boo.
If he did it, Giant Boo on him. Rapists don’t get any sympathy from me.
If he didn’t do it, Giant Boo on the false accuser and charges being filed anyway. People who claim to be raped and weren’t don’t get any sympathy from me.
Football doesn’t even enter into my thought process about this. I guess cause I think the Tigers will be fine either way.
For your information...
I looked up Deviate Sexual Assault in the revised Missouri statutes.
Also, here’s a definition of Deviate Sexual Intercourse…I believe the second entry is in play here.
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Oh, hey there RMN!
I haven’t been around because of my duties on my Braves blog, but I’m ready for some Tigers football!
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Rangers/Braves in the World Series would be fun.
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by Scott Coleman on Aug 30, 2010 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions
My head would explode.
Actually, my head would explode with a Rangers/Anyone World Series.
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Yes - let's play some freaking football.
OMG!
I can’t handle the drama!
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by tigers and chiefs fan on Aug 30, 2010 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions
I thought I read somewhere that Missouri had a rule that if you were charged with a felony,
you were automatically suspended from the sport (or maybe classes too?) until it’s resolved. Can anyone confirm?
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If anyone can help ease my fear right now please steer me right.
The thing that frightens me about losing DWash is the fact that he seemed to be the only vocal leader on this roster. in years past we have had a guy like spoon every year that was the vocal leader and you could always see had the guys attention it was the same with Chase. The scary part to me going into this game is not knowing who that leader is going to be. I love the make up of this team and will be cheering for them regardless of the opponent, and glad that our opponent will now be another college team and not the long arm of the law.
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by Thomas Kyle Hanrahan on Aug 30, 2010 3:13 PM CDT reply actions
seems like an overrated "factor"
some lead by their actions on the field, some guys are louder behind the scenes. just because there doesn’t seem to be a clear cut guy jumping around and yelling like a manic doesn’t mean there aren’t leaders.
I've always thought vocal leadership was overrated
Lead by example.Speak up when necessary, but you don’t need someone running their mouth all of the time.
Someone will step up.
Whoever said, 'It's not whether you win or lose that counts,' probably lost.
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by tigers and chiefs fan on Aug 30, 2010 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Agreed
However, as a fan that basis my teams confidence on players body language and interaction with one another, that is a relatively improtant factor for me. I am just sharing my opinion in a public forum. I do think actions are much louder than words and hope to see guys fall in line behind the organizations goals. I just wondered if I was the only one thinking this at the time.
by Thomas Kyle Hanrahan on Aug 30, 2010 3:25 PM CDT reply actions
Sad development
A solid running game is going to be key – I hope Kendial is ready to go. More than anything, this turns the offense into the Blaine show. We will go as he goes.
Anyone NOT see this coming?
All I can say is that this team has the ability to PLAY through this. I’m hoping that all the adversity stays OFF the field! What ever the outcome, FOCUS on the game! MIZ—-
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There was some discussion earlier about how the Missourian
came by the original story. You can get some background here (and a comment from DeArmond to boot)
The discussion on whether to @Washington on Twitter was really interesting.
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by Transmogrified Tiger on Aug 30, 2010 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions
it was his offense anyway
if missouri is going to be a player for a conference championship and on the national level, it’s not going to be because derrick washington is or isn’t on the team.
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