Mizzou Links, 8-5-10
by Bill C. on Aug 5, 2010 5:14 AM CDT
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Judging by the comments thread, I think a lot of you already saw this, but here's EDSBS' take on the Bruce Walker arrest, just in case you missed it...
Mizzou Football Links
- The Trib: Something to gain, something to lose
1. James Franklin, quarterback: Barring injury to junior Blaine Gabbert, this true freshman won’t crack the starting lineup this season. But he can still have an impact on the 2010 Tigers. From Corinth, Texas, the former prep star climbed the depth chart in the spring and opens camp as the No. 2 quarterback — though he figures to be the eventual successor to Gabbert as the No. 1, whether that’s in 2011 or 2012, depending on Gabbert’s NFL draft stock next spring. Missouri has established a trend in giving true freshman quarterbacks playing time off the bench — both Chase Daniel and Gabbert saw action as first-year reserves — and in Franklin, the Tigers might have a player talented enough to keep the chains moving should Gabbert suffer an injury like last year’s sprained ankle. A strong preseason would solidify Franklin’s role as the top backup and give the staff no choice but to play him this season.
- The Missourian: New football season brings new questions for Tigers
- PowerMizzou: 2010 pre-camp season prediction
- PowerMizzou: Zo Knows: Lorenzo Williams' 2010 Camp Preview
- Examiner.com: Ex-Tigers making noise as NFL training camps open
- Corn Nation: Previewing the 2010 Missouri Tigers
Big 12 Football Links
- Only Marginally Big 12-Related, Really, but Interesting...
Smart Football: Nick Saban breaking down film
Smart Football: Nick Saban on defending the wildcat - Texas Tech
Dr. Saturday: Raider QB shocked (shocked!) that Leach ignored the D
Mizzou Basketball Links
- MUtigers.com: Big Steeeeeve! The Travler
The Fastest 40 Blog: Steve Moore... Most Interesting Tiger in the World - Sports-Reference.com: The Top 31 College Basketball Programs of the Last 31 Years (Part II)
21. Missouri Tigers (+12.77 SRS)
Record: 645-348 (.650)
Prominent Coaches: Norm Stewart, Quin Snyder
Best NCAA Finish: Lost Regional Final (1994, 2002, 2009)Mizzou are nothing if not the masters of cranking out solid seasons. Under Norm Stewart from 1980-99, their average national rank in SRS was 34.1, they only finished outside the top 40 six times, they were in their conference’s top 3 in SRS 10 times, they won 20+ games 13 times, and they went to 14 NCAA tournaments. Then-wunderkind coach Quin Snyder initially provided more of the same after taking over for Stewart in ‘99-00, guiding the Tigers to 4 NCAA berths during his first 4 seasons in Columbia, peaking with 24 wins and a regional final loss in 2002. And even though Snyder’s magic wore off as his career progressed, his successor Mike Anderson has provided his own solid results in recent years, going 54-18 over the past 2 seasons. Missouri has never been to a Final Four despite knocking on the door multiple times, but they have a strong history of putting themselves in a position to get there. If the Tigers’ next 31 years are anything like the last 31, they will eventually have their breakthrough.
Big 12 Basketball Links
- ESPN.com College Basketball Blog: Get ready for the APR online database
- ESPN.com College Basketball Blog: Bill Self: Mid-majors best at evaluation
- ESPN.com College Basketball Blog: Fred Hoiberg's picture-perfect reunion
Other Mizzou Links
- Mizzou Baseball
The Trib: Report says Tigers hire baseball aide - Mizzou Volleyball
MUtigers.com: Volleyball Opens Practice Monday
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by tigers and chiefs fan on Aug 5, 2010 9:09 AM CDT reply actions
Did, but now I don't.
Don’t really miss it. I find out the comings and goings at the same rate as I did with PM.
And I have a little chunk of change to piss away on something else.
Former Mizzourah.net asshat
Instead...
Go to Amazon, buy a super cheap subscription to ESPN the Mag, and get the “free” (comes with mag subscription) ESPN Insider. I’ve found that to be great. You get the Insider info on all the sports, but their college football feed is pretty great. Has a lot of recruiting, but also coaching rumors, player stuff, and what not.
Should be around $15-$20/yr.
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I subscribe
Mainly because of Expansionpalooza.
If you like following recruiting, it’s a must have (although not my reason). Very valuabale when major news is going on in the program (coaching searches, expansion ,etc.). Beyond that, just depends on how much coverage you really want whena lot of practice rpeorts, rtoster updates, etc. are available on free sites.
Venting
The coaches didn’t substitute Gabbert for Daniel when he was hurt nor Costello for Gabbert when he was hurt so naturally what is the reasoning behind wasting yet another redshirt? Has it become a tradition now? Are the coaches really that shortsighted to see the benefit of redshirting quarterbacks? Many premier programs in the country redshirt their rising stars..we don’t need Franklin now, we need him when Gabbert leaves. He will still attend practice, he will still learn a ton. He doesn’t need to waste a year standing on the sidelines..end ventilation
Clearly they see value in real-life game preparation...
…at least in terms of the quarterback position. And I find it interesting that a) you left off the fact that they DID substitute Daniel for Smith when he was hurt, and b) …really? “Didn’t substitute Gabbert for Daniel when he was hurt”? He didn’t even ADMIT he was hurt at all until the end of the year, and even when “hurt” (none of us know when or how seriously), he was still one of the best quarterbacks in the conference and probably an infinitely better option than a true freshman. So you invented one case to support your point and ignored another that refuted it.
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If Daniel hadn't been ready to play against Iowa State . . .
as a true freshman, it’s entirely possible that we would have a completely different football program today.
It’s easy to overstate these things for the purpose of a dramatic narrative, but I’m not sure you can overstate this one. His play in that game – and what it meant to the season and beyond – was a watershed moment in this program’s history.
by Michael Atchison on Aug 5, 2010 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions
I remember that game.
when brad went down almost everybody in faurot thought it was over, myself included. Then they put chase in and I think one of his first plays was a qb scramble that got stuffed and I remember saying “he thinks he can run but he can’t”, boy was I wrong…
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actually, what I remember about that game . . .
is that almost everyone in Faurot wanted Pinkel to take Brad out of the game, and then the injury forced his hand. ISU had Brad gameplanned perfectly (he ran 11 times for 39 yards, and passed for just 45 yards with a pick), and it seemed like there was no hope of winning with him in the game.
by Michael Atchison on Aug 5, 2010 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, there was no way we were winning with Brad...
…he was handcuffed and had lost all confidence.
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I was 10 so I wasnt exactly "savvy" when it came to coaching decisions at that time.
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Even beyond that
don’t we think that Pinkel’s deserved the benefit of the doubt when it comes to the ability to replace these QBs? At least a part of the anger regarding this situation with Daniel and then Gabbert is the underlying assumption that “these types of players don’t come around very often”, and we should maximize their time as much as possible. If Franklin becomes the 3rd consecutive(4th depending on how you view Smith) great Mizzou QB, is it time to simply concede that Pinkel is going to be able to recruit QBs of a similar caliber(and hey, maybe part of that reason is that they get to play as freshmen!)?
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"What's misunderstood about you?"
"Nobody thinks I'm a genius."
by Transmogrified Tiger on Aug 5, 2010 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions
"depending on how you view Smith"
Maybe I’m misunderstanding, but is there a way to view Brad Smith where he isn’t a great college quarterback?
by Michael Atchison on Aug 5, 2010 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions
and if Blaine #2
hadn’t gotten himself booted, maybe Franklin does redshirt this year. And I agree GP has earned the benefit of the doubt +1 in terms of being able to get the next quality QB, and having good results with guys that spent their first season as barely playing understudys.
Are we forgetting Chase Patton was a GREAT 2nd QB. Gabbert was the #3.
If Franklin isn’t RS’d, I would take it as the coaches believe Blaine Gabbert is heading to the NFL after this year. There’s no way you blow 2yrs of eligibility on a great QB prospect to just let him set and prep.
Of course, Franklin could RS and then burn it if Blaine gets hurt, which I would like to think is the idea. Then I’ll pray that Blaine doesn’t get banged up.
Former Mizzourah.net asshat
*sit and prep.
I need to quit my Thursday afternoon drinking. Or ramp it way up.
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Thursday afternoon drinking uh?
Where do I sign up for that?
Given enough velocity even a pig will fly
by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Aug 5, 2010 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions
I haven't ignored anything
Honestly the thought of Smith hadn’t even crossed my mind. You’re refutation did not involve why we did not substitute Costello for Gabbert in the Nebraska game when he could barely even walk. Your counter argument will probably be…“well the team saw how tough he was from that…yadi yadi yada” but he reinjured himself because of that and was still hobling even though the Texas game. No we probably would not have done any better with a substitute in there..that’s not my point. The point is you don’t leave a quarterback in a game that has be severely injured..that is just dumb coaching.
I know Daniel did not admit that he had been hurt. Isn’t it a bit shocking however, throwing an average of 3 some odd inceptions a game for the second half of the season? Daniel isn’t the only person who knew about it.
We didn’t redshirt Blaine Gabbert so he could get some “playing time experience.” Most the plays they ran with him were running plays. Well any quarterback can stand back there and hold the ball out like ours do. 18 passes against weak nonconference oponents doesn’t exactly make up for a whole lost year of eligibility
Have you read this blog before? Or at least the comment to which you're responding?
Pretty sure our “No Costello for Gabbert” response was “Wow, they must have no confidence in Costello whatsoever.” You can call that dumb coaching if you want. And you have no evidence whatsoever that he “reinjured” the ankle at all. A bad sprain will last a few weeks no matter what. If he hadn’t played, maybe it would have healed a bit faster, but what difference does it make? After Texas, he was much more mobile anyway, even despite playing.
Also: Daniel threw three interceptions once his senior season.
One more thing: I didn’t say Gabbert got “playing time experience.” I very clearly said real-life game preparation. It’s what Gabbert said prepared him well, it’s what Daniel said prepared him well, and there’s a very good chance it’s what Franklin will say prepared him well. I wouldn’t know because I’m not a player, but apparently preparing with the knowledge that you might play, versus preparing while knowing there’s not a chance in hell you will play, is much more different and beneficial. And, apparently, the opposite of dumb coaching.
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From THE FREAKING MAGAZINE WE JUST PUT OUT:
“But the coaches felt an injured Blaine Gabbert was still a much better option than a healthy Costello.” Also mentioned in the walkthrough series a while back. But hey, you clearly know us better than we know us.
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You have to treat every qb individually
That said, there is no substitute for actual game play. Given the track record of developing qb’s the last few years coupled with the depth at the position, why not give him some playing time? Especially if Gabbert leaves after this year, I would feel better about having a young qb who has taken some hits rather than someone who is playing for the very first time. Ask Garrett Gilbert if he would have preferred more playing time before being asked to beat Alabama in the National Championship Game.
And just for the kicker, Garrett Gilbert was born in 1991. What the hell? I haven’t even adjusted to kids born in the 80’s being adults.
fwiw I was inpressed with how gilbert handled all that pressure.
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i know that tiger24 got some riled a little bit.
and he had the only dissenting opinion. however, i’ll play some devil’s advocate for him. (no, that doesn’t mean i think he’s the devil.) yes, it’s nice to have a qb starting the season that has seen some game action. but would it be the end of the world if he hadn’t? usually the only game action they see is in mop-up duty against some scrub team or ou or ut’s 3rd stringers in THEIR mop-up time. all this said, if we redshirt the kid and he comes out against, say, semo, for the first time ever in a college fb game. we still win the game handily. what is the point in cupcake scheduling if you’re not going to take advantage of situations such as this?
/covers head waiting for artillery
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