Iowa: Beyond the Box Score
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So I guess we should revisit this game eventually, huh? The Old Dominion game and January 1 allowed me to stall for a while, but it's time to pick the scab.
Iowa 27, Mizzou 24
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| Mizzou | Iowa | Mizzou | Iowa | |||
| Close % | 100.0% | STANDARD DOWNS | ||||
| Field Position % | 48.8% | 41.1% | Success Rate | 56.7% | 46.8% | |
| Leverage % | 69.8% | 83.9% | PPP | 0.34 | 0.41 | |
| S&P | 0.908 | 0.882 | ||||
| TOTAL | ||||||
| EqPts | 25.1 | 22.8 | PASSING DOWNS | |||
| Close Success Rate | 52.3% | 44.6% | Success Rate | 42.3% | 33.3% | |
| Close PPP | 0.29 | 0.41 | PPP | 0.18 | 0.37 | |
| Close S&P | 0.815 | 0.853 | S&P | 0.599 | 0.702 | |
| RUSHING | TURNOVERS | |||||
| EqPts | 9.3 | 14.0 | Number | 2 | 2 | |
| Close Success Rate | 44.4% | 42.9% | Turnover Pts | 15.7 | 8.0 | |
| Close PPP | 0.34 | 0.40 | Turnover Pts Margin | -7.7 | +7.7 | |
| Close S&P | 0.787 | 0.829 | ||||
| Line Yards/carry | 2.57 | 3.57 | Q1 S&P | 0.775 | 1.021 | |
| Q2 S&P | 0.733 | 1.076 | ||||
| PASSING | Q3 S&P | 1.176 | 0.601 | |||
| EqPts | 15.8 | 8.7 | Q4 S&P | 0.577 | 0.755 | |
| Close Success Rate | 55.9% | 47.6% | ||||
| Close PPP | 0.27 | 0.42 | 1st Down S&P | 0.732 | 0.713 | |
| Close S&P | 0.827 | 0.892 | 2nd Down S&P | 1.060 | 0.783 | |
| SD/PD Sack Rate | 5.6% / 0.0% | 0.0% / 0.0% | 3rd Down S&P | 0.621 | 1.310 | |
| Projected Pt. Margin: Iowa +5.4 | Actual Pt. Margin: Iowa +3 | ||||||
So basically, this game was decided by the fact that Missouri's two interceptions were more costly than Iowa's. Iowa was more explosive -- five plays of 35 yards or more -- and Missouri far more efficient. Iowa controlled the first half, Missouri the second ... and the magnitude of the four picks settled the whole thing.
I'm So Excited, I'm So Excited, I'm So ... Scared
I've never been so optimistic about a Blaine Gabbert-led 2011 Missouri offense as I was late-Tuesday night, even after the atrocious pick six. The Missouri offensive line allowed two sacks in 59 pass attempts (a 3.3% sack rate) despite going against an Iowa defensive line that was one of the two or three best Mizzou faced in 2010, and they averaged 4.23 line yards per carry on runs by Mizzou running backs. Aside from maybe the Oklahoma game, it was the best performance all season from the offensive line ... and even with the loss of Tim Barnes, the line returns well over 100 career starts and will be possibly the most experienced line in the country next year. Every receiving target returns, as does every running back. The quarterback too ... right? Ri ... right?
Okay, so this is a bit dramatic. I had to take advantage of a rare opportunity to reference this clip, one of the capstones of my young-adult life. Even if Blaine Gabbert doesn't return, choosing instead to make sure that Missouri has a third straight year with at least one first-round pick in the NFL draft, there is plenty to be excited about with James Franklin. I will have just as much hope for 2011 with Franklin as with Gabbert, but I'll have a little less optimism ... if that makes sense. The ceiling could be just as high with Franklin, but the certainty will be lower. We know what Gabbert brings to the table: a whole lot.
Iowa's non-blitzing, zone-heavy defense was tailor-made for Gabbert success ... but still. This defense was among the best in the country on passing downs, and Gabbert was as good as he's ever been in those situations. On passing downs (2nd-and-7 or more, 3rd- or 4th-and-5 or more), he was 14-for-23 passing for 164 yards. He found Jerrell Jackson four times for 57 yards, and T.J. Moe five times for 60 yards, but he still managed to find four other receivers at least once too. His reads were never more confident, his passes rarely more accurate. If he had thrown one specific pass out of bounds, and thrown another specific pass about a foot to his left, it would have been a virtually perfect quarterbacking performance. For those who still dislike him or try to discount this ridiculously good performance (one pass aside), either by Gabbert or David Yost, I just don't know what to tell you. Quarterbacks don't pass for 400 yards against Iowa. Teams don't gain 500 yards against Iowa. They just don't. And Missouri did. And to the idiots that pummeled Gabbert on Twitter after the game (including the one who called his girlfriend a tranny) ... you make me really, really sad.
Snake Pits and Lucifer Burns/Can't Take the Strength I've Earned and Learned
Tell me again why I should spend so much time previewing these games? If there was one thing that seemed absolutely certain, it was that Iowa had the power advantage, Mizzou the explosiveness/open-field advantage. Instead, Mizzou's lines acquitted themselves quite well ... but Iowa beat them with big plays.
Redzone S&P: Mizzou 0.956, Iowa 0.522
Shorter-Yardage (four yards or fewer to go) Success Rate: Mizzou 71.4%, Iowa 63.6.
Now, we know that Mizzou's defensive line could have done much, much better -- the pass rush was non-existent without the blitz, Brad Madison, Jacquies Smith and Michael Sam combined for 1.5 tackles, and even though I pinned more blame on the LBs and DBs for these runs, Marcus Coker did still rip off runs 62 and 35 yards. But Mizzou's defensive line performed as well as Iowa's for the most part, and it kept them in the game; plus, this really was the best Mizzou defensive line in a long, long time.
And again, almost everybody returns. There are 18 men on the two-deep for the offensive and defensive lines; depending on Aldon Smith's draft decision, either 16 or 17 will return in 2011. And Dominique Hamilton gets healthy. And Sheldon Richardson comes to town. Next year, Mizzou will be as well-seasoned, talented and nasty in the trenches as they have been since the 1960s.
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Standard Downs Run-Pass Ratio: Mizzou 40.0% Run, Iowa 70.2% Run
Passing Downs Run-Pass Ratio: Mizzou 11.5% Run, Iowa 22.2% Run
Lots of different ways to play football, huh? Iowa took fewer chances and ran a ton, yet made more big plays. Mizzou went to more extremes (more negative plays, more positive plays) and threw a ton, yet was the more efficient team. I do love this sport.
Your Appearance Don't Hold No Class/You Know the Chase is Better Than the Catch
Okay, it was a reach to continue with the song theme with this one ... let's just say there aren't many songs with the words "target" or "catch" in them, even on my iPod. It was either this or Spoon's "Don't Make Me a Target."
Then again, I feel no reason to apologize for a little Motorhead.
Anyway, here is your targets-and-catches data.
| Player | Targets | Catches | Catch% | Target% | Rec. Yds. | Yds. Per Target |
| T.J. Moe | 17 | 15 | 88.2% | 29.8% | 152 | 8.9 |
| Jerrell Jackson | 13 | 9 | 69.2% | 22.8% | 129 | 9.9 |
| Michael Egnew | 9 | 7 | 77.8% | 15.8% | 64 | 7.1 |
| Wes Kemp | 8 | 7 | 87.5% | 14.0% | 61 | 7.6 |
| Brandon Gerau | 3 | 1 | 33.3% | 5.3% | 10 | 3.3 |
| Rolandis Woodland | 3 | 0 | 0.0% | 5.3% | 0 | 0.0 |
| Gahn McGaffie | 2 | 1 | 50.0% | 3.5% | 9 | 4.5 |
| Kendial Lawrence | 1 | 1 | 100.0% | 1.8% | 9 | 9.0 |
| Marcus Lucas | 1 | 0 | 0.0% | 1.8% | 0 | 0.0 |
| TOTAL | 57 | 41 | 71.9% | 100.0% | 434 | 7.6 |
| TOTAL (WR) | 47 | 33 | 70.2% | 82.5% | 361 | 7.7 |
| TOTAL (RB) | 1 | 1 | 100.0% | 1.8% | 9 | 9.0 |
| TOTAL (TE) | 9 | 7 | 77.8% | 15.8% | 64 | 7.1 |
It's pretty easy to target at least nine guys when you're throwing almost sixty passes, but it was still nice to see the variety here, especially since (again) everybody returns next year. Three things here:
1. Blaine Gabbert threw 17 passes at T.J. Moe, and he caught 15 ... and came as close as possible to catching 16 without actually doing so. That's incredible. Just judging by what I've read on Twitter and from columnists, Gabbert-to-Moe will be one of the more notable, well-known combinations in the country if, again, Gabs returns next year. If he doesn't, Moe will obviously still be an incredible weapon, even if everybody writes Mizzou off (and you know they will).
2. I've been as hard as anybody on Wes Kemp and Jerrell Jackson for their drops over the last two years. And to be sure, the next time Wes Kemp drops a pass, I've already got "Oh, you can make that diving catch against Iowa, but you dropped that?" cued up and ready. But I just cannot fault Jackson for his "drop" that resulted in the first interception. I'm all for saying that if you get your hands on the pass, you should bring it in ... but that was excellent coverage, and there was basically an Iowa hand in between his. The pass was behind him, and it left him with little chance for success. I've seen it called a "drop" just about everywhere ... but that was simply an iffy, well-covered pass to me.
3. How exactly does the pass distribution work next year? Moe and Egnew have done nothing to earn fewer targets, and Jackson and Egnew will be seniors ... but Marcus Lucas, Jimmie Hunt and Bud Sasser are lurking, and if practice reports are to be believed, they will give the starting quarterback no choice but to target them too. And then there are Gahn McGaffie, Brandon Gerau, Jaleel Clark, Kerwin Stricker, and some tight ends too. And it's not like the runners have done anything to discourage Yost from calling as many or more running plays. I'm really, really curious about this ... though I should shut up about it now since, call me crazy, we'll be talking plenty about this in the upcoming Walkthrough series and, therefore, the 2011 Missouri Football Preview.
I'm a Negative Creep, and I'm Stoned
This is a pretty positive post, and it was intended to be, but I was obviously not without complaint/concern on Tuesday. The bullet points:
- Kickoffs hurt Mizzou yet again. Iowa's starting field position after kickoffs: their 29. Mizzou's: their 19. Ten yards can, over time, make a significant difference. If Mizzou's final drive had started ten yards further upfield, for example, they would have been just inside Grant Ressel's field goal range, and they might not have had to go for it at all.
- We're going to miss Kevin Rutland, Jarrell Harrison, and Carl Gettis. It is really easy to get excited about the incredible experience Mizzou is going to possess in 2011, with or without Gabbert and Smith. But the secondary does get hit pretty hard by attrition. Gettis had a forgettable final game, but Rutland and Harrison were potentially the two Tigers most responsible for Mizzou's second-half defensive improvement. Each of them picked off a pass, and each almost had a second. Mizzou had to send more guys to get pressure on Stanzi, and that required improved play from the secondary. Well ... the secondary improved. One has to wonder the damage that the departures of these three seniors (no point in counting the fourth senior, Jasper Simmons) will do. To be sure, corners Kip Edwards and E.J. Gaines have gotten quite a bit of solid experience, as have safeties Kenji Jackson (who looked fantastic on Tuesday), Matt White and Tavon Bolden. But to maintain Mizzou's overall level of defensive play in 2011, some players will have to prove more than they have to date. Nothing says they can't, but looking at the returning (and incoming) personnel, it does appear likely that Mizzou's run defense will improve next year, and the pass defense will regress.
- I'm going to miss Matt Grabner. I've seen nothing from Trey Barrow that suggests he won't be every bit as good as Matt Grabner ... but wow was this kid an underrated weapon this season. I've never seen a guy so adept at pinning punts inside the 10 ... hell, inside the 5.
- Blaine Gabbert needs more reps. Aside from the slightly inaccurate pass to Jackson in the end zone, the only mistakes Blaine Gabbert made, really, were when his options were covered and he had to improvise, and his instincts failed him. He ran himself into a sack and seemed incapable of throwing the ball away, even when it meant lost yardage or, of course, a pick six. This is interesting considering this is the same quarterback who saved Mizzou's backside by throwing the ball away a few times against Nebraska. His confidence level has never been higher than it was against Iowa, and that "I can make a play here" attitude backfired a few times. In all, that is the remaining aspect of #11's game in need of improvement. You cannot throw footballs better than Gabbert does (though the deep sideline routes could still use improvement), but if Gabbert comes back, that off-the-cuff decision making is what will need the most work. Pretty sure that's what we said heading into 2010, too, and while it improved ... it could improve more.
Summary
I think I look at bowl games in a much more different way than most people. The extra win is nice, and trust me, I was absolutely looking forward to an 11-2 final record and a potential Top 10 finish. Saying Pinkel has finished in the Top 10 twice would have been fantastic.
But really, most of my impressions of a given season have already been well-established pre-bowl. All I really want from a bowl is a) to feel like my team acquitted themselves just fine on national television, and b) reason to feel good about next season. In that way, I was almost completely satisfied with Tuesday's effort. I was absolutely disappointed in the result, and it took me a while to go to sleep Tuesday night thinking about all the plays that could have changed Mizzou's fortunes. But a) in a game in which Mizzou was favored by three, they led by four until the pick six and might have won by the same margin had somebody managed to bring Micah Hyde down (or if holding had been called on whoever fish-hooked Kendial Lawrence). In other words, this was in no way an egg-laying ... which I realize is news to Mizzou fans who expect to win every game by 35. And b) with as good as Mizzou's offensive line and receivers looked, it is difficult not to get excited about Mizzou's prospects for 2011, even in the worst-case scenario that sees Gabbert and Aldon Smith both heading to the NFL.
I mentioned after the game on Tuesday, that I was annoyed with the "Same old Mizzou" reaction from fans, and I explained it then as well as I could.
There is nothing "same old" about Missouri at this point. We’re top 10 in basketball and going to finish top 20 in football. We talk about raising expectations and hoping for more, and that’s fine … but we can’t do that if we fall back on the same "We’re poor, tortured Missouri fans" every time there’s a tough loss. Every team in the country suffers tough losses. We’re no different. We can feel sorry for ourselves tonight, but there are only a few programs in the country in better long-term shape than Missouri right now, and there is absolutely nothing "same old" about that. The "Same old" Mizzou would have gone 5-7.
I know Iowa was 7-5, and I know that Mizzou made a couple of horrendous mistakes. I know how good an 11th win and Top 10 ranking would have felt. But as the calendar shifts to 2011, it has never felt better to be a Mizzou fan. In both football and basketball (and most minor sports), Mizzou has a coach they can be proud of, a program they can be proud of, and a ton of exciting youth about which they can get excited. Any loss is super-annoying when you're losing less and less, and hopefully we don't experience this feeling at all in 2011.
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"But as the calendar shifts to 2011, it has never felt better to be a Mizzou fan."
I wouldn’t say never, but your point still stands.
OK...I'll bite...when's it felt better?
Walk me through the scenario where it has felt better given the context presented.
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Never in my lifetime
"Smell the perfume but don't drink it because it might kill you." Erin Andrews recounting advise from Gary Pinkel
For everyone so excited for the James Franklin era....
Matter and Gabe have both said that Tyler Gabbert was the second best QB in bowl practice, and Gabe even went as far to say that it wouldn’t be crazy to think that even if Blaine goes to the NFL that a Gabbert will still be starting next year.
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Never said Blaine was terrible..
I said Franklin was the best on the team but not because Blaine is bad..
Look at the two quarterbacks in the national championship. Just because they’re freshman doesn’t mean they’re not ready. Franklin would not have gotten us to the national championship, but I think he could have won just as many games
Based on what?
"Smell the perfume but don't drink it because it might kill you." Erin Andrews recounting advise from Gary Pinkel
He is a natural leader
He knows how to get the ball in the end zone. That is what you need to be successful in high school and college. What he doesn’t have in experience he makes up for in speed and quick decisions.
We did see that hanging on to the ball when hit was a problem at times but most running quarterbacks go through that phase at one time or another. Definitely needs to improve in that area.
Another thing that I like about him is that he is composed. He stayed in the pocket with confidence on the few passes he was called to throw. Constant pressure from a good defense would have disturbed him, so I think he would have lost to Oklahoma but beaten Texas Tech. Few quarterbacks could come back from a 24-0 deficit so the result in Lincoln probably would only have been worse. This is all just hypothetical of course, so who knows about any of it. He wasn’t really given a chance to show what he could do. Any stats at this point aren’t that useful in analyzing how good he is but you can see that he has great legs and is a competent passer.
You (obviously) disagree
but I think that the talent evaluation of our coaching staff is better than yours.
Franklin might make quick decisions, but that doesn’t make them the right ones. Several of the last read option plays, he made the WRONG read and kept the ball. I’ll stick with Blaine for now, thanks.
"When among evil companions, try to fit in." - Wild Bill Donovan
He made the wrong decision a couple times....
He made the right decision a couple times…. those couple times were huge gains…. It’s not like Gabbert makes the right decision every time either. If you only give him one chance at it in a game, it’s not going to be successful every time.
I don’t quite understand why you think he shouldn’t play because he made the wrong read a couple times. It seems like you were waiting on him to make a bad play so that you could say “See, he’s no good!” even if it was right after he got a 25 yard gain
I've rambled on about this game in several places...
…but I thought it was really one of Gabbert’s best games as a college qb. Sure, the pick six induced some harsh language, but otherwise Gabbert controlled the field and really had the Iowa defense on the ropes for most of the game. Great game, fun time, move on to next year.
Oh, and fire Pinkel.
"Smell the perfume but don't drink it because it might kill you." Erin Andrews recounting advise from Gary Pinkel
great point
the season is done. the teams for next year are in place. That would make the preview ready by Friday, I would think.
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100 pages of Bill Carter pictures and a schedule.
Available Tuesday.
(And let’s face it: 100 pages of Bill Carter pictures might be worth buying.)
Yes indeed. I got my Lulu account ready.
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by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Jan 3, 2011 1:11 PM CST up reply actions
Available?
Where are the 100 pages of Bill Carter pictures?
With or w/o
Gabbert and or Smith?
"Every absurdity has a champion to defend it" Olivar Goldsmith
I think they will have three issues ready to roll out
one with both of them, one without both of them, and one split decision
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you'd need two split decisions.
Two outcomes in that split decision. Need to be prepared for Gabbert staying with Aldon going, or Aldon staying with Gabbert going.
That adds 30 minutes to the deadline.
2011 year of the Mizzou Tigers!
Very well done article! Certainly agree! Tigers will be very tough in 2011, with or w/o B Gabbert and A Smith. In addition to Sasser, Hunt and Lucas on O, the defense will get Kony Ealy, who has been compared to Aldon Smith in his red shirt year!
If I have two wishes for next year
besides health, and no players acting stupidly, of course -
I wish that Gabbert would have a little more patience and step up into the pocket instead of scrambling sideways. Don’t have it, throw it away.
I wish that Will Ebner (and the Good Lord knows I love a hard hitting defense) would ALSO have a little more patience and not overrun the play/gap/big hole the run goes through as much.
"When among evil companions, try to fit in." - Wild Bill Donovan
Ebner really did have a pretty disappointing season....
…which makes it that much more impressive how good the Mizzou D was for the most part.
So what do you think are the arguments going through Gabbert's and Smith's heads?
Come back and play for the National Championship or at least a good BCS bowl or go to the NFL and get more money, but also have the labor issues to worry about…?
"black, gold and Oranje"
by blackgoldorange on Jan 2, 2011 12:38 PM CST reply actions
D.mn... should've signed this with a different handle to get an answer
"black, gold and Oranje"
by blackgoldorange on Jan 3, 2011 12:58 AM CST up reply actions
Sorry. I was going to reply yesterday but got distracted by all the other stuff going on here.
Let me just say what’s on the mind of every person who’s more of a college football fan than a pro football one: “C’mon, NFL labor issues!”
Elke ware zoon, zo blij van harte / Hemels boven ons zijn blauw / Er is een geest zo diep binnen ons / Oud Missouri dit is voor jou / Wanneer de band het Tijger oorlogslied speelt / En wanneer de strijd over is / We zullen stampen, stampen, stampen, rond de kolommen / Met een kreet voor oud Mizzou!
by Dutch Missourian on Jan 3, 2011 9:07 AM CST up reply actions
The argument that the coaching staff will use will be based on the results of the draft analysis.
If they are first round, they are guaranteed a pretty big number of dollars in the current structure and risking injury next year is a bad idea. (See Maclin). If they are lower round picks, another year of college could help them raise their draft stock and payday.
Pinkel has shown he is really in tune with this thought process and will recommend what is best for the player even if it means he loses a top player a year or even two early.
"Anderson won't make substitutions. He'll change lines - Tiller, Taylor and English hit the bench while Denmon, Dixon and Paul hop the boards. Welcome to Hockey Night in Columbia. He won't take time outs. He'll take on fuel and tires. Welcome to the Hardwood 400." - Atch
From what Maclin said
Pinkel basically told him that while the team would LOVE to have him back, if he was his own son, he’d recommend he go to the NFL.
I definitely won’t go so far as to say that treating your players like their your own family is RARE, but it becomes harder to find as you get into the upper echelon of coaches. We’ve got a special one in Pinkel, even if he hasn’t been able to get us to the promised land just yet.
Good performance by yost the first 55 minutes
but the interception should have never happened because there was no reason to be throwing the ball with a 4 point lead and 5 minutes to go. Even the announcers said on that drive..“most teams would be running the ball in this situation.” The coaches have to get smarter, especially if you’ve lost the same way before – See Nebraska, 2009.
I haven't seen a single moment of the game, either live or in replay...
…but I’d wager a guess that this…
The coaches have to get smarter
…is probably not the reason Missouri lost.
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by ghtd36 on Jan 2, 2011 1:01 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
we were throwing the ball b/c we had been getting 7-8 yards every time we threw the ball.
there was nothing wrong with yost’s call on that play.
You don't have to come and confess, we lookin' for you, we gon' find you, we gon' find you. So you can run and tell that, Homeboy.
It is?
Gabbert threw 9 interceptions against 475 pass attempts this season, meaning that he had about a 1.8% chance of throwing an interception when he threw. And technically, it was even less before that interception.
To wit, Missouri lost 8 fumbles against 314 rush attempts this season, meaning that running the ball had about a 2.5% chance of resulting in a turnover.
It was a bad decision and a bad throw with a bad result, but let’s not talk out of our rear ends and claim that throwing the ball “is the most dangerous thing you can do,” my friend.
"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
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by ghtd36 on Jan 2, 2011 2:30 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
Some of those fumbles were lost by the quaterbacks
making it a lower percent chance that a running back would have fumbled the ball
That would be a wager you would win
I thought Yost called a very effective game. And that is coming from someone who is probably a little harder on Yost than I need to be sometimes. A few poor decisions on the field and unlucky breaks are what lost this game, it certainly was not the coaching
Yost had nothing to do with that play
It was just a dumb throw by Gabbert. If you watch the replay, the receiver appeared to be in blocking mode and I don’t think he ever knew the ball was coming, or if he did, it was too late to get in front of the defender.
"Smell the perfume but don't drink it because it might kill you." Erin Andrews recounting advise from Gary Pinkel
5:32 left in a game is NOT a time to sit on a 4-point lead
Let’s ignore the “wisdom” of the announcers. Announcers are great at spouting conventional wisdom, but conventional wisdom means nothing when talking about the subtleties of the specific game in question. So, the fact that Matt Millen thought Mizzou should be throwing the ball should certainly not be used as evidence against OCYost.
Iowa’s 2 TD drives were 4:28 (67 yards) and 0:48 (68 yards) in length. Not saying they were moving the ball as well at that point in the game as they were in the 1st 20 minutes of the game, but they had shown that they were certainly capable of getting downfield and scoring in the time that was remaining – especially considering they had all 3 timeouts left.
Mizzou’s best options are A: Score again to increase the margin to 7+, B: get downfield and eat up as much clock as they could. Pinkel is not the type of coach to sit back and be content with a small lead, until the lead is insurmountable, so clearly, attempting to score to put the game out of reach was the most obvious gameplan – and the one that keeps with our team’s personality the most.
On the drive in question, Mizzou was averaging 34.6 seconds/snap, had completed 5 straight passes with a QB who was playing incredibly well. They were averaging 8 yards/snap on that drive by passing the ball. So, they were moving downfield quickly, burning clock and getting close to the score.
Taking out Gabbert’s -7 yards, Missouri averaged 5.3 yards/carry (and were averaging 7.6 yards per pass attempt) for the day… but let’s look at the drives prior to the interception:
Drive 0 (drive with the interception – Mizzou leading 24-20 at start of drive) – 6 pass attempts. +11, +12, +1, +7, +9, INT
You could certainly argue that rushing could have been used on one of these first downs, but with the exception of the final pass, they were nearly all VERY successful plays.
Drive (-1 – Mizzou leading 24-20 at start of drive)): +9 pass, rush (no gain), PENALTY (-5 yards), pass (INC)
Mizzou passed on 1st down – you could argue a run would have been appropriate on 1st down (though the pass was certainly successful), but a pass was DEFINITELY appropriate on 3rd & 6 after the penalty.
Drive (-2 – Mizzou trailing 17-20 at start of drive): +3 pass, +9 rush, +16 rush, INC pass, +9 pass, , +2 rush, +12 rush, Def. PI penalty +4, -1 rush, +3 pass TD
Very well balanced drive. 5 passes, 5 runs, and that doesn’t even take into consideration any screens that would be considered passes by the box score, but runs by our coaching staff.
Drive (-3 – Mizzou trailing 10-20 at start of drive): +6 pass, +25 pass, +7pass, +10 rush, INC pass, +13 pass, +9 pass, +7 rush TD
6 passes, 2 rushes, but we were down by 10, so that’s understandable. Plus, this is the point where our offense really started to click.
So, basically, we were being aggressive and riding the hot hand. You certainly could argue (and clearly, that’s what you’re doing here) that we should have been more conservative, but that doesn’t fit with our offense’s personality ever since 2007 or so. It would have been going away from everything that has worked for us in the last 4 years to sit on a 4 point lead with 8:25 left in the game. That’s a recipe for disaster, IMHO.
by Andy--01 on Jan 2, 2011 1:33 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I'm failing to see what the 2009 Nebraska game has to do with this one
I’m assuming you’re referring to the 2 interceptions that both lead to Nebraska scores.
The first one of those, Missouri had a 5 point lead with nearly 14 minutes left in the game and got picked off on the FIRST snap from scrimmage by the best defensive player in football that year. In hindsight, you could clearly make an argument that Mizzou is better off running there, but at the moment, there’s no reason to think we shouldn’t be aggressive – ESPECIALLY considering . As far as the 2nd INT, we were down by 1 and had just run the ball twice. There is no reason NOT to pass there.
So, I don’t understand what you mean by:
especially if you’ve lost the same way before – See Nebraska, 2009.
While you could argue that the interceptions lost us that game, you certainly can’t argue that the coaches were in any way wrong to dial up a passing play in those situations. Players have to make plays. If you’re going to play ultra-conservatively whenever you have a lead, there’s not much point in having a good QB, is there?
It sounds as if you’re arguing that because Blaine Gabbert threw 2 INTs in a game once when he had previously held a lead and eventually lost that we should NEVER throw the ball in the 4Q of a game in which we have a lead, because a turnover COULD happen. Is that what you’re saying? Because that’s ludicrous.
by Andy--01 on Jan 2, 2011 1:53 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
They weren't in any way wrong to dial up a passing play..
you mean except the fact that our quarterback could barely walk and was trying to throw in a monsoon?
So, Mizzou was just supposed to run the entire rest of the game
despite being up by only 5 against an offense that had just gone 56 yards in 3 plays (all passes) with 14 minutes left in the game?
It’s asinine to suggest that Mizzou should not throw the ball again in that game. It’s a nearly guaranteed way to lose the game – ESPECIALLY considering that Mizzou was only averaging 2.6 yards/carry on the ground
I absolutely am saying that.
If they were going to keep Gabbert in there the last thing he needed to be doing was trying to throw the ball.
BTW, 2.6×4=first down
Oh, this is going to be fun.
If they were going to keep Gabbert in there the last thing he needed to be doing was trying to throw the ball.
Exactly! He should have been out there building sand castles! Or, ringing a Salvation Army bell!
"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010
0 logic.
"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010
0 salient arguments.
Don’t stop now! If you just keep digging, you’ll get back to where you started!
"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010
I'll bet "jayhawk24" is still available
over at RCT.
Seriously, this is the exact type of fan we refreshingly see very little of on this site.
I love how he's even dropped the charade of acting like a Mizzou fan
referring to the team as “them” might be explained as him just being someone who doesn’t like referring to “his teams” as if he’s a member of them – that’s cool. But, he refers to the rest of us as if we’re members of the team.
Which means… he’s not a fan of Missouri.
You're the only one who has actually had the balls to tell me to leave
Maybe you should be more respectful of people who try to observe why we lost a game?
The last thing in the world I want you do to is leave.
You’re driving up RMN’s traffic. So, thanks for the money.
/unpaid author
"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010
So... it's too aggressive to THROW the ball
but, you’re suggesting that Mizzou should have gone for it on EVERY 4th and 2 for the rest of the game. Even if that was 4th and 2 from their own 28 yard line?
I’m done. You’re beyond ridiculous at this point, and I’m not going to feed the troll.
, he said, five days later, from the Internet.
"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010
I thought he was referring to the 1960 Border War
THIS IS CONFUSING
"Smell the perfume but don't drink it because it might kill you." Erin Andrews recounting advise from Gary Pinkel
You all give these stats like you're a national power or something
After 10 years under Pinkel, they have still yet to win a conference championship or make it to a BCS bowl and have 2 straight bowl losses.
Yes I certainly could argue that they should have been more conservative..teams in other conferences start running the clock out in the 3rd quarter, yet 5 minutes is too much time to start running the clock out? There’s nothing wrong with passing the ball the rest of the game but when you get to the point where you need for the clock to run down regardless of how successful you have been passing the ball, then you need to run the ball! Don’t try to give me these damn statistics. We lost the game and its not just because “We didn’t execute.” We had the game won and all we had to do was run the clock out..yet you try to give me these damn statistics.
Here's the deal.
If you don’t like objective facts statistics, this probably isn’t the place for you. Seriously, it will not offend any of us if you find a different sandbox to pee in. The Internet is a wonderfully large place. Go check it out.
It won't offend me if you stop frequenting this silly site.
We don’t wield the ban-hammer very liberally around here, but … you’re trying as hard as you can, aren’t you…
I'm arguing with them
because they’re wrong. They think they’re doing the same thing. What is wrong with that?
Because you're unbudging from your argument.
You make the same argument over and over, baseless and factless as it is, which makes it impossible to carry on a rational conversation.
"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010
Make a salient, rational, fact-based argument...
…and I’d be happy to reconsider my opinion.
The commentariat has done nothing but provide you with numbers and facts to prove their argument; you’ve provided nothing but opinions, conjecture and unrelated points (0 BCS BOWLS!).
"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010
No stats or numbers are going to convince me that we should have been throwing the ball
Teams have been running the clock out since the beginning of football for a reason..so that the other team does not have a chance to score.
A statistic is not going make me change my mind that when a team has a lead with 5 minutes left that they should throw the ball
If you are not going to be convinced, then I say be the bigger person
Know you are smarter than everyone else here and just leave…no sense in wasting all that high-caliber brain matter on people who just dont want to see things the way you do
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OK.
Then stop arguing, because if you’re admitting that new information is not going to change your old garde philosophy, then we’re all just wasting our breath.
"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010
No, but the pass has to be completed.
A run will take time off the clock unless you go out of bounds. You don’t need to “complete a run”
No... we had a lead
having a lead of <1 TD with 5 minutes left in the game does NOT mean that we had the game won.
OT:
Chase Daniel is in at QB for New Orleans.
"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010
That seems on-topic.
Then again:
0 BCS bowls
0 Conferfence Championships
/p’wn’d
by MU'97 on Jan 2, 2011 2:47 PM CST up reply actions 5 recs
pretty sad you're still here.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Jan 2, 2011 3:30 PM CST up reply actions
WORST QUARTERBACK EVER
"Smell the perfume but don't drink it because it might kill you." Erin Andrews recounting advise from Gary Pinkel
MU players in the NFL today
B. Smith with 5 carries for 60 yards and a completion
Chase Daniel with one completion so far today
Ziggy Hood with 4 tackles, 2 for losses, 1 for a sack
Willy Mo with 6 tackles, 4 solo and a tackle for loss
Chase Coffman 3 catches for 30 yards…yes…Chase Coffman
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Bill's FO colleague Bill Barnwell observed via Twitter:
Brad Smith is the best Week 17 player in football. Killed the Bengals last year. He’s the Kevin Maas of football.
"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010
Great to see the Chase's names up there
Still have Maclin, Gage, J. Smith and maybe Rucker to come, and Spoon appears to have been held out today
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Chase starting his second drive
has another completion so far
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and congrats to the Oakland Raiders...
who manage to go 6-0 in their division…and will not sniff the playoffs.
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Chase with some happy feet
gets one batted down on a short pass over the middle
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and on 4th and 1 around midfield, down 10 with 2 to go..
the Saints will punt it away, which likely ends Chase’s day.
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We were all taught why no good coach would ever pass the ball once they had a lead in a game.
I’m not quite an expert in it, but basically it’s because only a coach who had never won a conference or national title would ever pass the ball with the lead.
We learned that Tyler Gabbert is terrible...
…but we don’t know why, or how, or if it’s true.
Hi, RPT.
"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010
Missouri has won 0 BCS games
"Smell the perfume but don't drink it because it might kill you." Erin Andrews recounting advise from Gary Pinkel
and 0 big 12's
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by stlcardinalsfang on Jan 2, 2011 4:47 PM CST up reply actions
For what it is worth...
I could not disagree more with many of the sentiments expressed here by tiger24, though I will vehemently defend his ability to say them in this forum as long as the attacks aren’t personal.
I can’t guarantee the response will be anything warmer than ice cold to the same repeat arguments, though.
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Fighting mob mentality since 2007
Oh, that's got Microsoft Paintjob written all over it.
"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010
I know he's holding a cane, but...
it really looks like his left hand is about to flip someone off.
"black, gold and Oranje"
by blackgoldorange on Jan 3, 2011 12:55 AM CST up reply actions
and so what he said about the Gabbert's is acceptable?
I’d really hope that is not your stance here.
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by The Beef on Jan 2, 2011 7:09 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Yeah
The guy said “Tyler sux” without any explanation r argument, and then pretty much said the coaches should have benched Blaine Gabbert at the end of the game.
Even if those don’t rise to the level of personal attacks, I think they fall pretty short of RMN’s accepted standards for thoughtful commentary. I always understood this to be an alternative to Tigerboard.
I'm not sure what you're referring to...
The ’09 Nebraska game or the Iowa game…but never did I say he should have been benched
Explain this:
If they were going to keep Gabbert in there the last thing he needed to be doing was trying to throw the ball.
He was injured!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You don’t want any quarterback throwing the ball when he is injured! You don’t want Blaine Gabbert nor Joe Montana throwing the ball when they are injured. If he was going to be left in there, then it needed to be for leadership not for him to make the plays. All you can do when you’re injured is hand the ball off and even that is hard. What is so hard to understand about that?
Just ask Ben Roethlesberger.
The sleeper has awoken. . .awakened. . .he woke up.
by SleepyFloyd7 on Jan 3, 2011 12:52 PM CST up reply actions
Not going to deny Roethlesberger's toughness
and Gabbert was just a tough to make it through the game. Roethelesberger could still push off his right foot, despite the tremendous pain, while Gabbert could not push off because the injury was in his ankle.
What Big Ben did was amazing but it doesn’t happen everyday..so to say that it is okay to continue having him pass because other people have done it…not sure about that
I should clarify...
The whole “WE GAVE UP ON THE RUNNING GAME” argument we’ve had every week for the last two years is what I was referencing.
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by RPT on Jan 2, 2011 8:36 PM CST up reply actions
Everybody lashing out at my every opinion is acceptable?
/not hypocritical in any sense or fashion of the word
Lashing out at opinions: completely different than lashing out at people...
…though the line can obviously get blurred very quickly.
I didn't even mean to say it ....
It’s almost a death wish to say anything that isn’t unanimously agreed upon …it’s like speaking out against a totalitarian government here
This might me my favorite post in the history of this site.
Probably because it reminds me of THIS VIDEO WHICH IS AWESOME.
The sleeper has awoken. . .awakened. . .he woke up.
by SleepyFloyd7 on Jan 3, 2011 12:55 PM CST up reply actions
We very much do not want to encourage groupthink around here...
…but you’re not allowed to have half-assed opinions. You’re allowed to think whatever you want as long as you back it up.
I immediately...
… want to begin Photoshopping a propaganda poster of Bill as Stalin.
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by RPT on Jan 3, 2011 8:24 PM CST up reply actions
"Run the ball" is the greatest unfalsifiable argument in football
All other strategic approaches are questionable by definition. If a team does not win a game whilst running the ball then the fault is with execution, talent, or some other devilish thing.
I mean, Vince friggin’ Lombardi ran the football.
No amount of statistical hoo-hah and flim-flam should convince even the most feeble mind that running the football is naught but an unmitigated good.
’Tis always best to lose a game by running the ball. To lose by passing is an offense.
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
While I have stopped reading TMQ for various reasons
one point he often brings up (correctly so, IMHO) is that coaches often refuse to be aggressive because they want to deflect blame. If a coach punts the ball away and the defense doesn’t get it back, that’s their fault – if he goes for it on 4th and 1 and they don’t get it, it’s his fault.
Granted, TMQ is a huge proponent of running the ball while having a lead, but his argument is primarily based on the desire to use as much clock as possible. The problem here wasn’t that we weren’t using clock (we were averaging 35 seconds run off the clock per snap) it was that we turned the ball over. Turning the ball over is possible when running the ball, too (in fact, in Missouri’s offense, it’s MORE likely).
Of course
I forgot to use sarcasm font
But on the serious side, Tiger24’s argument is a BS argument unless you already have an axe to grind.
If you start playing clock much with 5+ mins left (beyond snapping the ball deep in the clock) you’re not doing yourself many favors in the college game. You play for points in the college game up 4 points with 5+ mins precisely BECAUSE a) the clock stops when you get first downs anyway, and b) Iowa had all of its timeouts. It’s far more difficult to bleed 5+ minutes off the clock with in college than in the NFL.
The correct strategy in that situation is for Missouri to run its “we need to be up 2 scores” offense—NOT its clock killing offense. In that game situation, AND PARTICULARLY the field position Missouri had, you run your best stuff and get the ball to your playmakers.
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
by dcrockett17 on Jan 2, 2011 4:43 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
I'm sad that football season is over
When does conference realignment season start?
"Smell the perfume but don't drink it because it might kill you." Erin Andrews recounting advise from Gary Pinkel
Hopefully not too soon...
I think I just figured out where all the teams are going to be for the 2011-2012 academic year.
There is a God and I'm not it, after that EVERYTHING is subjective. Be careful for what you wish for, you just might GET IT!
At least from all this jabber
I know that Greg is still alive, and not in a mexican jail…
Finds MvP RoC to be a stellar individual

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