Mizzou Links, 10-19-11
by Bill C. on Oct 19, 2011 6:06 AM CDT
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The Missourian: Tigers' secondary facing big test against Oklahoma State
PowerMizzou: PMTV-HD: Pinkel on OSUUnlike against Kansas State, which does not rely on the passing game, and against Iowa State, which cannot rely on anything, the Missouri secondary will get a sense if it has improved since the loss to Oklahoma four weeks ago.
Ford thinks so. He said the Oklahoma game taught the secondary the hard way that communicating what defense it needs to be in — before the fast-pace offense snaps again — is critical.
"The athletes they have across the board, man, if you're not on top of your game, they can get behind you real fast," he said.
Unfortunately, those athletes are not limited to Blackmon. He accounts for seven of the team's 19 receiving touchdowns, and receivers Josh Cooper and Hubert Anyiam each average more than 50 yards per game.
"That's what so difficult about them, they got a gang-load of receivers," cornerback Trey Hobson said. "You got to account for Blackmon, but their other receivers can hurt you, so it’ll be a game where the whole secondary is going to have to be focused."
CBS Sports: Keys to the Game: Missouri vs. Oklahoma State
Cowboys Ride For Free: Midway Through The Season, What Needs To Be Fixed? - Ground Game
The Trib: Improbably, MU football thriving by running
Post-Dispatch: Henry Josey bursts forth for MizzouPersonnel changes in the backfield have coincided with a shift in philosophy for the offense, the kind that calls for 58 running plays in one game, as the Tigers did in Saturday’s 52-17 win over Iowa State, their most rushing attempts in a game since 2002.
That was three years before Missouri remade its offense with a no-huddle spread attack that spawned pass-prolific quarterbacks Chase Daniel and Blaine Gabbert.
Now, the Tigers still employ the spread but with a willingness to change their stripes. Quarterback James Franklin has routinely taken snaps from under center on short-yardage plays and kept the ball or handed off to a tailback, sometimes with a fullback stationed between them. It’s the kind of conventional approach MU coaches had been reluctant to try since adopting the spread.
"It’s a big help, because it’s something different," tailback Henry Josey said. "Nobody thinks we can do that or that we’re a bruising type offense. But we can do that, too."
- PowerMizzou: Tuesday's Top Tigers
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KC Star: Missouri linebacker Luke Lambert makes the most of extra year of eligibility - NFL
Niners Nation: Buying Spaghetti With Justin Smith
49ers.com: Aldon Smith Earns Second Rookie Nomination
We Are Mizzou: Tigers in the NFL
Other Football Links
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SB Nation: The Numerical, Week 7: Triple Threats And Kansas State's Statistical Allergy
MIZZOUEXPANSIONAPALOOZA™ 2011
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SB Nation: Conference Realignment: EXPANSIONAPALOOZA 2011 And The Balance Of Power - Train Keeps A-Rolling
ArkansasNews.com: [Arkansas AD] Long has news on A&M, SEC
The Missourian (AP): McCaskill; Mixed emotions about MU's possible move to SECDuring his speech, Long said the SEC is preparing a 13-team schedule for 2012, but he is still hopeful the league can add a 14th team. The deadline for doing so is "coming quickly," but he would not elaborate.
It is imperative, he told the audience, that the league get to 14 teams. Otherwise, there will be inequities in the schedule, he said. "We won’t stay long as a 13-team conference," he said.
Leaders of other SEC schools have made similar statements.
Long told the Touchdown Club that there are a "number of institutions interested" in the SEC. In a brief news conference after the luncheon, he would not name names. Nobody expected him to do so.
He did acknowledge a gentleman’s agreement of sorts that the SEC would not invite a school from a state that already has a school in the league. Such an agreement would preclude Clemson, Florida State, and Georgia Tech, among others. A 14th member also must be a geographic fit, he said,
"There are not a whole lot of options out there," he said. The SEC is "being cautious and rightfully so."
KC Star (Campus Corner): Big 12 future with and w/out Mizzou
Team Speed Kills: A proposal for SEC football realignment - Kansas City
Bring On The Cats: It's (Past Time) to Step Up, Kansas City - The Future
EDSBS: BEHOLD THE FUTURE OF COLLEGE ATHLETICS: THE SUNBEAST - The Big East
Post-Dispatch: MU's decision impacts Big East
College Football Talk: Big East confirms upped exit fees, no invites sent yet
The Nova Blog: [Commissioner] John Marinatto Conference Call Highlights - History'd
Athlon Sports (Ivan Maisel): What the Birth of the Big 12 Tells Us About Its Current Struggle - Danny Dan
Yahoo Sports Radio: Dan Weztel CFB Podcast With "Dan Beebe"
Other Basketball Links
- The Trib (Steve Walentik): Counting down the Top 25 (Nos. 20-16)
Other Mizzou Links
- Mizzou Gymnastics
MUtigers.com: Gymnastics and Golden Girls Open New Facility - Mizzou Baseball
MUtigers.com: Gold Takes Game One of Fall World Series
Other
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McKinsey Quarterly: Competing through data: Three experts offer their game plans - This Would Suck
ESPN Soccernet (James Dall): Selling football's soul - So Cool...
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I've pointed out before that I don't really blame KC politicians for looking out for their constituents.
My problem becomes when a fanbase for a school that is in Kansas are aggitating for political pressure. TB and Panjandrum might live in the KC area but their arguments seem to have much less to do about the city they currently call home than the university they formerly attended.
Even if they are pure in their efforts to “save KC” it comes at the price of alienating people from other regions of Missouri and alumni from Mizzou. Remember the University of Missouri, the school these two could have attended, the school which is supported by taxes paid by Missourians from all over the state?
I do hope that the local politicians that actually read that keep in mind the firestorm they would unleash if they took their cues from a bunch of K-State fans.
by GreenRipper on Oct 19, 2011 7:31 AM CDT reply actions 3 recs
Eh, that's politics and why I absolutely try to avoid talking politics if at all possible.
You’re always going to have people that aren’t happy about some major decision, and this whole Mizzou/SEC thing is no different, and who knows if their desire to keep Mizzou in the Big 12 is really about the betterment of KC or because they think it might cause harm to K-State.
I think that when decision time comes to stay or leave, the BoC will primarily focus on ensuring the best future for the University of Missouri.
by TheHamburglar on Oct 19, 2011 8:10 AM CDT up reply actions
What I wrote has nothing to do with K-State
The Big 12 is going to survive whether Missouri stays or goes. For that matter, Kansas City is going to survive, but it stands to lose the most in this. I consider Kansas City my hometown now, and I think I have every right to advocate for what I see as best for it.
And how does looking out for KC alienate other regions of the state in a way that looking out for other regions of the state alienates KC? Again, if you can show me what tangible benefits the rest of the state stands to reap from this, then I could maybe see the point. But a mentality of “well, we’re from southern Missouri, and that’s close to Arkansas and Tennessee and Mississippi so we identify more with southerners” doesn’t strike me as a sufficient gain to offset the real loss KC faces if Mizzou leaves.
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by TB on Oct 19, 2011 8:19 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Tangible benefits
1) increased sweat tea production
2) increased RV sales
3) Increased liquor sales during LSU games
4) increased talent coming into the state
5) Increased interaction with other Tigers (we get lonely)
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by mizzou2396 on Oct 19, 2011 8:25 AM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
6) increased wild boar what for smoking in BBQ
by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Oct 19, 2011 8:42 AM CDT up reply actions
Do not underestimate...
…the tastiness of quail.
/Arkansas’d.
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by Bill C. on Oct 19, 2011 8:43 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
or mutton
mmmmmmm
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Okra and Brussel Sprouts will forever be my sworn enemy!
by BillSelfsToupee on Oct 19, 2011 8:44 AM CDT up reply actions
Ah, Imperial Germany
That’s the only way you’re going to see an uptick in beards of that nature again. The return of the Kaiser.
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I'm just going to leave this here
possibly my favorite thing I’ve done for a magazine:
http://www.voxmagazine.com/media/img/photos/2011/01/storyimage-image-12817.jpg
by jschooltiger on Oct 19, 2011 9:30 AM CDT up reply actions 5 recs
to be fair
I just reported it; a colleague did the design.
by jschooltiger on Oct 19, 2011 9:36 AM CDT up reply actions
So a neatly trimmed chinstrap falls under "Lincoln," correct?
There are worse presidents I could be associated with.
love
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mmmm.......quail.
Little chickens of flavor.
by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Oct 19, 2011 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions
nobody knows for certain
how this will affect kc at this point. it could be worse or better than what you think. it’s all a matter of (your) opinion at this point. unless you have a crystal ball.
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by threadkiller on Oct 19, 2011 8:34 AM CDT up reply actions
you only get a crystal ball
after a national championship
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by mizzou2396 on Oct 19, 2011 8:35 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
ask auburn what will happen to kc!
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by threadkiller on Oct 19, 2011 8:36 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
that costs $180K I hear
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by mizzou2396 on Oct 19, 2011 8:37 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Exactly.
I think it’s very fair to say KC has the most to lose in this (other than Mizzou itself, I guess), but we have no idea if they will actually lose anything.
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I will agree to disagree with you however
Your comments on Iowa St. Hilarious and oh so true during tournament time.
"The power of the force has stopped you, you hosers."
The economic benefits for Missouri, at worst, are a wash
If we move to the SEC, the $100 Million stadium expansion is guaranteed. Stay in the Big 12 and it could fall through…. anyone want to guess what the economic impact of a $100 Million dollar construction project is? (Hint: more than the $14 Million a year for the guaranteed 4 years the Big 12 tournament will be in Kansas City.)
Further, an SEC move will bring in more visiting fans to Columbia. Some years this number will be far greater than the 10-20k the Big 12 tournament brings to KC. That helps to offset this $14 Million economic impact. Also, consider the local fans who are just spending money downtown instead of out in their suburbs (not a true “impact,” just redistribution.) The only real money being brought into the state/area is from the Iowa State, Oklahoma etc. fans. Again those losses will be far outweighed by the number of Tennessee, Kentucky, Arkansas fans coming to Columbia.
Finally, the argument that the tax revenues from the Big 12 tournament are going to have an impact on schools, etc. is laughable. What is 5% of $15Million? This will barely make a dent on the city and counties multi million/billion(?) dollar budget.
KC's concern isn't for the state of Missouri, or even Mizzou
KC’s concern is for KC.
by SEC Supremacist on Oct 19, 2011 9:25 AM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
Some of those fans may even have to fly in for a game.
And land in… Kansas City. And eat barbecue in… Kansas City on Friday night before the game. And drive back to their hotel in… Kansas City after the game and get wasted at a bar in… Kansas City.
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by Kpz1234 on Oct 19, 2011 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions 6 recs
The stadium expansion kind of exposes the "Big 12" is stable argument, as well.
Lots of anti-Mizzou to the SEC folks now claim that the Big 12 is stable. The basis for the argument seems to be, “UT and OU have nowhere else to go.” I don’t believe this at all. I wonder if they really do either. It will be interesting to see if any of Baylor-KU-KSU-ISU take on any major projects or contractual obligations that would rely on Big 12 TV money beyond the 6-year grant. It’s easy for fans to say the Big 12 is stable. But do the decision-makers really believe that, i.e. will they be willing to put their money where their mouth is and build/expand in anticipated of future Big 12 revenue? I’m fairly certain that if we stayed Missouri’s proposed expansion would go in a holding pattern due to the uncertainty of the Big 12’s future. Now, I don’t know if any of these schools had even been planning anything, so I may totally off base. Actually, I was thinking KState and Baylor had things in the works.
by IHatedHarpos on Oct 19, 2011 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions
We are going to announce a $60-75 million stadium expansion sometime during the season.
We had mock ups done by Populous, but for one reason or another, this summer, we went back to the bidding process and switched firms. So, they’re starting their design all over again.
It was mentioned by our University President in his State of the University speech a couple of weeks ago, and I have a friend working for a subcontractor on the project. All systems are go for our expansion. The only sticking points are when the new firm can have everything ready and how much we can secure in private donations.
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Good to know.
I’ll keep my on that. Best of luck to you.
by IHatedHarpos on Oct 19, 2011 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions
When did I miss the article on a "$100 million stadium expansion?"
Care to share a link?
It's not the size of the dog in the fight; it's the size of the fight in the dog.
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I don't have the link
but the reports were that high level donors were waiting on giving donations that summed in the area of 100 million(or maybe it was less than that) to see where we ended up in the conference shakedown, with most of them preferring the SEC.
by Transmogrified Tiger on Oct 19, 2011 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions
I remember the article, I believe Andy Katz wrote it on ESPN?
I’m pretty sure I remember reading that there was a $300 million athletic facility project, with plans to get the stadium up to 80,000? I wouldn’t be surprised if such a large chunk went to Memorial Stadium/Faurot Field, but some of the other plans were to work on the softball and baseball stadiums, training facilities, etc.
Relating to athletic facilities, saw the Golden Girls/Gymnastics building for the first time last Saturday. It’s huge.
by TheHamburglar on Oct 19, 2011 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Actually it's a 160 million dollar project if I remember correctly.
60 million of which goes to Faurot Field, the other 100 million goes to other facilities. The current pressbox we have (which I find VERY nice) was only 13 mill, so you can imagine what kind of upgrades 60 mill can provide. Someone from the QB club on here said expand to 80k, upgrade concourse, add restrooms and concessions to south end of stadium.
If you are truly in support of KC then you are rather one-sided in your support.
Either that or I missed the point where you called on the administrators at K-State to support a Tigers-Wildcats game at Arrowhead if the Tigers leave for the SEC.
As far as how KC has hurt other regions, well the aforementioned Border War game being played in KC isn’t exaclty loved by people in the eastern half of the state. Not to mention the fact that there is an eternal battle between KC, StL and the more rural areas over economics issues and you’ve just made a sports argument entirely one about KC’s economy.
I’ve stated many times that I hold no ill will for those in KC who are worried about the economic issues but I’m also going to tell you that people in the rest of the state really don’t carte that much and if a move is blocked because of this the firestorm that results will not be pretty. I’m sorry but after a couple of weeks complaining about Mizzou’s possible move to the SEC and doing nothing but push the views of K-State fans I find your sudden support of KC disingenuous, at best.
In the end my issue isn’t with you being a KC citizen and speaking out against the move. My problem is with an outspoken K-State fan who has been critical and insulting of Mizzou now trying to sell his agenda as being all about the KC.
by GreenRipper on Oct 19, 2011 8:57 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
In fairness...
…Tye really hasn’t been all that outspoken in terms of hating on Mizzou (at least, not except during game week). At least, not compared to quite a few others.
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Noted and retracted.
With an apology, TB.
There's nothing to say KC won't maintain some of the benefits
Why can’t the SEC move their bball tournament to the Sprint center? It’s nicer than anything ATL has, and frankly, we don’t care about basketball. (Sit down Kentucky, you don’t count).
I could even see an alternating SECCG between ATL and St. Louis. Sorry, but Florida won’t play in December in Missouri outside. Just aint gonna happen.
by SEC Supremacist on Oct 19, 2011 9:23 AM CDT up reply actions
St. Louis, I might be able to see...
…but I don’t see them moving a bball tournament to a city (KC) within about 10 hours of only two schools.
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You have to remember that Kentucky, Vandy and Arky
are the only teams that play basketball. If we move it to KC, maybe it will give the SEC teams a chance to just skip it and concentrate on football more.
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right, but that's still one HELL of a trip from Lexington and Nashville...
…again, though, I could see StL at some point.
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as someone said yesterday (can't remember who)
don’t interrupt my joke with facts.
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I like to quote Mythbusters here.
“I reject your reality and substitute my own”
"The power of the force has stopped you, you hosers."
They fly anyway
not like it matters much.
by SEC Supremacist on Oct 19, 2011 9:43 AM CDT up reply actions
the issue isn't the teams travelling
it’s the students and fans. Ideally, you want a conference tournament in the heart of the conference so it’s easiest/fairest for all schools and fanbases. I’m on board with Mizzou fitting in with the SEC, but there’s no way the conference or its fans would agree to hosting the basketball tournament in KC.
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What KC REALLY needs to do...
…is to get the KC Kings back. And I’m saying that as a Kansas Citian. One that’s likely moving back after school at Mizzou.
It's not the size of the dog in the fight; it's the size of the fight in the dog.
- Mark Twain
Say KC gets an NHL team soon in the Sprint Center...
Do KC people even care that the B12 tourney might be gone then?
Answer: No, and if they are upset, it has will have nothing to do with hypothetical economic losses.
Yeah, the political angle is especially specious logically
I CALL ON SPRINGFIELD POLITICIANS TO LOBBY FOR DORIAL GREEN-BECKHAM TO ATTEND MIZZOU. IF HE GOES ELSEWHERE IT COULD COST A STATE SCHOOL MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN BCS APPEARANCES HE COULD CONTRIBUTE TO.
by Transmogrified Tiger on Oct 19, 2011 9:07 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
first, calm down...
Second, if I know Springfield, they’ll lobby for DGB to go to Mizzou St, which will get them two-three appearances on ESPNU and EPSN2 during FCS playoff time.
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MSU
would lobby for him to play basketball and then spend all their time talking about how the last time MSU played Mizzou, MSU won.
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unfortunately I was at that game with my SWMO St. alum wife.
"The power of the force has stopped you, you hosers."
I lived in Springfield back then
Little Lord Fantleroy, Danny Moore, Danny Alt (sp?). They were actually a pretty decent team – I think that’s the same year they made the Sweet 16 and played Duke.
It is unfortunate that we haven’t played them again. I’d like to take back the bragging rights – or at least what they perceive as their bragging rights.
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I live near Springfield now. Born and raised in CoMo though
Their interest in the team this year is a bit lukewarm considering I think they made a great hire for their coach (although he will be gone again in 3 years) and they do have some returning talent. Sort of strange. Probably the Cardinals in the World Series is taking their focus off of bouncy ball right now.
"The power of the force has stopped you, you hosers."
what has always fascinated me about s'field
is they think they’re uconn or ut, where the girls program gets more attention than the men’s.
"I font think you read MU post." - ravings of a 5HE deprived man
by threadkiller on Oct 19, 2011 9:45 AM CDT up reply actions
UT maybe
not UCONN, I think the guys get more attention at UCONN. The Mo St. women have been to 2 Final Fours. They also had Jackie Styles. Who was on the cover of the phone book and on the front page of the newspaper even after she left.
I remember vividly on at least 2 occassions where Ned Reynolds jumped in on NBC on a Thursday night to show me the Lady Bears play basketball and interrupt Seinfeld. I had to stay up until something like 2 am to watch the show.
I get angry just thinking about it.
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Jackie Styles is Superwoman
My wife volunteered at an 8k race. Jackie finished 2nd. Overall. not just women.
"The power of the force has stopped you, you hosers."
so she has more attributes of being a thoroughbred racehorse
than her teeth?
/couldn’t resist
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by mizzou2396 on Oct 19, 2011 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
say that in SW MO and you get a beat down.
Me. I’m laughin
"The power of the force has stopped you, you hosers."
don't I know it
I hear even John Q defers to Jackie.
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what does denzel washington have to do with jackie stiles?
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by threadkiller on Oct 19, 2011 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions
Oh that brings up another of my Springfield gripes.
How do people know where anything is on campus when every building is named Hammonds? All the signs pointing different directsion to Hammonds. I moved to the area from Columbia over a year ago and the only way I could figure out the Hammonds center was just going to the biggest building on campus assuming that was the right place. (in reality we really love the area.)
"The power of the force has stopped you, you hosers."
all you do is take Hammonds Drive, to Hammonds lane
and then got right on Hammonds Terrace, take a left on Hammonds Circle, go past the Hammonds Tower and you’ll end up at the Hammonds Center. If you hit the Hammonds Building, you’ve gone too far.
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by mizzou2396 on Oct 19, 2011 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
So, it's in the Hammonds District?
/simpson’ed
What do you mean I can't retire at 32?
by Ausgiano on Oct 19, 2011 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
i've heard that in storrs, the women garner more attention, fwiw.
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by threadkiller on Oct 19, 2011 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions
I don't really care about what people shopping think
and you misspelled stores.
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I have been wondering is Ned still really alive.
Or do they just have one of those Disney animatronic robot things do the sports that looks like old Ned.
"The power of the force has stopped you, you hosers."
good ol' nitwit ned. gotta love him.
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by threadkiller on Oct 19, 2011 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions
it does. Easily.
Jackie Stiles is still a rock star here.
"The power of the force has stopped you, you hosers."
After seeing Arkansas' AD's comments on conference expansion,
it’s pretty clear that he’s hinting at either Mizzou or WVU as a target for the SEC. I know it seems everyone who’s not a WVU fan has seemingly written them off, but if the “Gentleman’s Agreement” he mentioned is in place, then there are not a whole lotta schools out there that make sense. Only WVU makes sense from the Big East, the SEC will absolutely not take a non-BCS school, for discussions sake (although probably very very unlikely) I guess you could throw NC St. & Va Tech from the ACC out there, and really only Mizzou from the Big 12. Unless the SEC reneges on their agreement or somehow snags an ND or OU, those are really the only 4 schools that I see as possible options (if I missed any let me know). Even of those 4, don’t really see Va Tech/NC St. leaving the ACC. I feel like if the SEC wanted to take WVU as #14, it probably would’ve happened after Pitt/Syracuse’s ACC defection when the Big East was scrambling. If Mizzou will ever pull the trigger, it seems like the SEC would more than gladly take us.
by TheHamburglar on Oct 19, 2011 7:39 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
It is Mizzou
It has been Mizzou. It will continue to be Mizzou.
by SEC Supremacist on Oct 19, 2011 9:27 AM CDT up reply actions
if it isn't, you owe me 10 beers at Flatbranch
I never forget. I may or may not be an elephant.
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If you're a bammer
you get no beer. End of story.
by SEC Supremacist on Oct 19, 2011 9:29 AM CDT up reply actions
definitely not
With Updyke and Saban, how could anyone root for them?
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Danny Dan
Wow. That was hilarious. Fake Dan Beebe is the man.
I think we should all agree
That if you wanted to leave and we stayed; or
you wanted to stay but we left
We should blame Claire McCaskil’s comments
/no political talk there, just an observation about politicians, statements and expansionpalooza, take a deep breath, a benadryl and simmer
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you get a participation ribbon!
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by threadkiller on Oct 19, 2011 8:30 AM CDT up reply actions
I really like the phrase "take a benadryl"
I have never heard it before. I think it is rather fantastic
Busting Bill C since September 19, 2011 10:19 CST, 8:19 PDT.
When he said that yesterday I thought about how long it had been since I actually had a benadryl
and that’s when I realized my parents had been doping me. I called the authorities, obviously.
Busting Bill C since September 19, 2011 10:19 CST, 8:19 PDT.
I blame people who are building their own bikes
hurts the economy (don’t ask how, the math behind it is too complex to explain to people anyway) and it makes the rest of us feel inferior.
Busting Bill C since September 19, 2011 10:19 CST, 8:19 PDT.
I am saddened and disappointed that my gool ol' American inginuity
has caused a complete and utter failure to the Greek economy. I thoughtfully apologize to the people of Greece and to all who have invested in ouzo and olives.
"The power of the force has stopped you, you hosers."
what about gyros?? what am i supposed to do with those now??
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by threadkiller on Oct 19, 2011 8:46 AM CDT up reply actions
I don't even know how to pronounce that.
I go to G & D and I say it 6 different ways hoping I get one right.
"The power of the force has stopped you, you hosers."
do you have any idea the implications on the Feta market you are causing?
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by mizzou2396 on Oct 19, 2011 8:51 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Oh I know.
My wife is caught in the crossfire. She doesn’t want me spending $2000 on a bike yet Feta is her favorite cheese. Serious global implications here.
"The power of the force has stopped you, you hosers."
that's a tough choice
You have two choices in life: You can stay single and be miserable, or get married and wish you were dead.
I don’t know who said that.
Busting Bill C since September 19, 2011 10:19 CST, 8:19 PDT.
by mizzou2396 on Oct 19, 2011 9:04 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
i never knew what true happiness was until i got married.
by then it was too late.
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by threadkiller on Oct 19, 2011 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
You think your wife's pissed...
my Evil Genius neighbor decided to make is Lair Security Forces a company of Hoplites. Now all the gear is backordered, and they are running around in the cheap armor from “Starship Troopers” (or the awesome armor from Federal Troops in “Firefly”).
What do you mean I can't retire at 32?
How do you keep them all from trampling your grass?
"The power of the force has stopped you, you hosers."
Oh, the lair isn't in my neighborhood
would never buy a house with an Evil Genius Lair in it.
What do you mean I can't retire at 32?
FIFY
would never buy a housewithwithout an Evil Genius Lair in it.
Busting Bill C since September 19, 2011 10:19 CST, 8:19 PDT.
Look
lairs can be aesthetically pleasing, but they are always destroyed…and that just kills resale in the neighborhood.
That, and I live in suburban Maryland…not many islands around there.
What do you mean I can't retire at 32?
all valid points
but, you have to concede that it is impossible to be a great Evil Genius without a lair. You can’t just go renting office space.
And while back in the day it may have been best to live elsewhere, in this new digital world and the increase in gas prices, it makes economic sense to work from home.
Busting Bill C since September 19, 2011 10:19 CST, 8:19 PDT.
A true evil Genius can set up shop anywhere, and blink with his one evil eye.
Always bet on Black and Gold!
by Wesley Stripes on Oct 19, 2011 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions
so now you are accusing this poor pianist of being an evil genius?
man, I think you are being entirely too cruel on a guy just trying to make a buck.
Busting Bill C since September 19, 2011 10:19 CST, 8:19 PDT.
Was he trying to make a buck, or was he trying to hypnotize the unsuspecting shoppers for nefarious purposes?
Always bet on Black and Gold!
by Wesley Stripes on Oct 19, 2011 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions
I think he was just blinking
but that’s for another day
Busting Bill C since September 19, 2011 10:19 CST, 8:19 PDT.
Further
There is no reason to believe that the evil eye was the one that was blinking.
Infact I would suggest the evil eye was the covered one. For everyone elses protection obviously.
by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Oct 19, 2011 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions
great point
this Wesley fellow is clearly outmatched by our logic
Busting Bill C since September 19, 2011 10:19 CST, 8:19 PDT.
But wouldn’t that negate his being evil? Evil geniuses do not care for others and wouldn’t be interested in protecting them.
Always bet on Black and Gold!
by Wesley Stripes on Oct 19, 2011 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions
exactly why he couldn't be an evil genius
because he WAS interested in protecting others.
Busting Bill C since September 19, 2011 10:19 CST, 8:19 PDT.
We don’t know that for sure.
Sources??
Always bet on Black and Gold!
by Wesley Stripes on Oct 19, 2011 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions
I have a real source
not anonymous.
MarioVanPeebles Republic of China
Busting Bill C since September 19, 2011 10:19 CST, 8:19 PDT.
Then I am defeated, for he is everywhere.
Always bet on Black and Gold!
by Wesley Stripes on Oct 19, 2011 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Stop construing!
Always bet on Black and Gold!
by Wesley Stripes on Oct 19, 2011 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Bless you my child.
by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Oct 19, 2011 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions
blasphemer!
"I font think you read MU post." - ravings of a 5HE deprived man
by threadkiller on Oct 19, 2011 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Religious discussion?
Always bet on Black and Gold!
by Wesley Stripes on Oct 19, 2011 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Aren't they phasing out Plum Island?
Evil Lair central if you ask me.
by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Oct 19, 2011 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions
I thought Plum Island was off the coast
of New York City?
Maybe I’ve had too much coffee today.
by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Oct 19, 2011 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions
No, you're right.
I like Fisher’s Island better though. It has these emplacements for big guns (they turned the island into a giant howitzer during WWII).
"Winning isn't magic, OK?" - Gary Pinkel
"When among evil companions, try to fit in." - Wild Bill Donovan
Interesting article about "dirtiest" rivalries in college football
WSJ.com What’s the Dirtiest College-Football Rivalry
We’re number 5!
"I have CDO. It's like OCD, but the letters are in alphabetical order. Like they should be."
Kansas is just lucky the game is in KC and not switching between home stadiums. Next time we might just burn down Lawrence again.
by A thru Zou on Oct 19, 2011 9:29 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
I suspect that may be due to the fact that we had more penalty yards than Kansas had total offense last year.
That was a good time.
We all understand what being a Mizzou fan is like. That’s no excuse for being a douche.
by jaeger on Oct 19, 2011 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
That's only because the Morris twins . . .
. . . played basketball instead of football – otherwise our rivalry would have most definitely been No. 1.
Random question..
Brought on by this statement from Denmoney:
This #NBA #lockout is killing me right now
Will the lack of BB games create a ratings surge for college, or will this be the thing that gets hockey completely on its feet again?
What do you mean I can't retire at 32?
Honestly for me.
I love college basketball and I will watch just about anybody play on TV. When it comes to the NBA I have a hard time watching 5 minutes of any game that isn’t the playoffs.
"The power of the force has stopped you, you hosers."
last season was pretty amazing
which is why this lockout has such horrible timing.
There is the ultimate polarizing team in the Heat.
Durant and Rose are just amazingly talented.
Blake Griffen may throw down the dunk of the year at any point
Amare, Melo and D’Antoni in NY makes for some entertaining (if not sound) basketball
The Lakers and Celtics are battling to see if they have one last run in them
And with such an influx of amazing point guards, the game has moved from the pure one on one game
The NBA is really missing an opportunity here.
Busting Bill C since September 19, 2011 10:19 CST, 8:19 PDT.
I can't root for the team because I think what that one person did on that one night
is the worst thing to ever happen to sports. A little part of me died. I questioned the sports gods. I felt terrible for an entire mass of people. On that night I vowed that I would concentrate all my hate into one person. That’s why I can’t root for the Heat. Because of that one man . . . Mario Chalmers.
Busting Bill C since September 19, 2011 10:19 CST, 8:19 PDT.
by mizzou2396 on Oct 19, 2011 9:22 AM CDT up reply actions 10 recs
I would think a college basketball surge
a lot of NBA fans are just really big basketball fans. It will certainly help the NHL as well. Add this with what appears to be a return of the Crosby and you get some more star power for the teams.
I think cities with both NBA and NHL teams can expect a big boost in attendance for the NHL franchise
Busting Bill C since September 19, 2011 10:19 CST, 8:19 PDT.
Ok here goes. I will await all the laughter but I will say it anyway.
It probably helps the MLS a little to. Playoffs are going to be starting up so no NBA opening to compete with that. I say this because both the NHL and MLS have niche fans so I would think if it is positive for one it would be positive for the other.
"The power of the force has stopped you, you hosers."
Not snarking here at all...
But the teams that are mostly likely going to make the MLS playoffs are: LA, Salt Lake, Dallas, Houston, Seattle, KC, Philly, and Columbus. Now, only three of those towns don’t have NBA teams, but I do think there may be some overlap between casual MLS and NBA fans. However, I don’t see those as being large numbers.
What do you mean I can't retire at 32?
I don't disagree with you actually.
Compared to the NHL I’m not sure they benefit any more. Even with NBA Cities haveing NHL teams I don’t see there being a lot of cross over to the NHL from the NBA except maybe in a few isolated cases. It seems that hockey fans are a lot like soccer fans. They are really connected to their sport and are going to follow that team regardless. I say this as a huge soccer fan. I have supported Sporting KC since their very first match in the MLS and as a high school soccer coach for 13 years.
"The power of the force has stopped you, you hosers."
I hear you
got a lot of grief from my cousins (Fire fans) for my wife and I wearing United scarfs at the match Saturday (they were free, and they smelled bad, but they were free). But there is a nice connection that teams get with there fans.
By the way, did know if you had seen this, but there’s a possibility that the United will move to Baltimore. DC has been trying to get out of RFK for a few years, but the city has been floundering on getting any money for a new soccer-specific stadium. But, Baltimore has made some statements that they would be able to get funding for something.
Now, I agree that they need to get out of RFK. That place is a dump, there’s no parking (though there’s a metro station three blocks away). I’ve tailgated for Fire games, and that stadium is fantastic. Must get out of a football stadium and into something smaller.
What do you mean I can't retire at 32?
I have not heard that.
KC bit the bullet and got out of Arrowhead. They had to play in a minor league baseball park for a couple years but I went to the US Gold Cup match at Livestrong this year and it is DA BOMB!
"The power of the force has stopped you, you hosers."
excellent
Hope that DC stays in DC, and on the metro…or gets into the suburbs so there’s tailgating.
What do you mean I can't retire at 32?
Doesn't KC end the season at DC?
Could mean the Eastern Conf Title for KC
"The power of the force has stopped you, you hosers."
tturn on the ac, drink some rc,
grade it with qc, head over to lc’s, then read bc.
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by threadkiller on Oct 19, 2011 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions
that hurts, but i've known it for some time.
"I font think you read MU post." - ravings of a 5HE deprived man
by threadkiller on Oct 19, 2011 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions
I only hate you because I love you...
What do you mean I can't retire at 32?
by Ausgiano on Oct 19, 2011 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
with friends like you,
i don’t need enemies. WHAT’S IN THE BOX!?!?
"I font think you read MU post." - ravings of a 5HE deprived man
by threadkiller on Oct 19, 2011 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions
Unfortunately, DC's stadium situation has been a mess for a long time
I think they have announced on two separate occasions where they were going to build their stadium and had politicians at the event who couldn’t deliver the votes. The last announcement they said they were going to build in Pr. George’s County and now the talk is Buzzard Point near the Nationals new ballpark. If you haven’t been in that area, it doesn’t take very long to find some troubled neighborhoods and it is a bit of a walk from the metro.
I'm a KC fan but more importantly of US soccer as whole.
The soccer specific stadium is a must have for most markets imo. There are things about the MLS I don’t care for but they really need their own stadiums to be taken seriously by the casual fan.
"The power of the force has stopped you, you hosers."
Absolutely no disagreement from me
Just wanted to point out that DC has slim pickings if they want to stay in DC, which is the best way to go IMO.
I have no real reference on DC since I have never been there.
Their club has as much history as an MLS club can have and I think they should stay in the area. Hopefully they can pull something together.
"The power of the force has stopped you, you hosers."
It would be a such a shame if DC moved
Considering they were the dominant team the first few years of league, still pull in 15k at a (literally) crumbling stadium, and are usually competitive, it would be a major step back for the league to lose a flagship franchise. If they get a new stadium, I would expect the attendance to go back up
Yes it would.
There were a few years where I though KC would lose their club so I now how the United fans feel. The new KC ownership group has done amazing things.
"The power of the force has stopped you, you hosers."
Agreed, I'm originally from Illinois
and went to a number of Fire games in the early years and, other than the location, have heard good things about the new stadium. I basically refuse to go to RFK but I try and do my part by watching DCU on tv. Only problem w/ KC’s stadium is the actual field. I’ve seen a few games on tv where that turf is chewed up 15 min into the game. Great looking stadium and I hope they get that field fixed
Yep the turf has been bad news.
I’m that problem will be resolved soon. My only tiny gripe is that the stadium is on the complete opposite side of KC now. It is in a great area but it adds an addtional 30 to 40 minutes of drive time when I do go up there for a game.
"The power of the force has stopped you, you hosers."
FWIW. I have visited Chicago's stadium for a WC qualifier.
I enjoyed it. It’s a nice venue and the size of it is perfect to get the crowd feeling into the game.
"The power of the force has stopped you, you hosers."
at the match Saturday
they handed out flyers (in the stands) saying how losing the team is going to have a terrible economic impact on the area. Which I believe. Really, I think they need to get into the Suburbs. I haven’t lived there long enough to know the area completely, but if they could get a spot near I-95 and the ICC, they’d be gold. But that’s a big uninformed opinion.
What do you mean I can't retire at 32?
On Saturday
Seattle opened up nearly the entire stadium save the north center tower stands.
It still sold out.
It was nearly as loud as a Seahawks game. It was awesome.
by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Oct 19, 2011 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions
The northwest clubs
Have a completely different dynamic then the rest of the league. I admit I am entirely jealous
"The power of the force has stopped you, you hosers."
I am little jealous that you were there
by McZou on Oct 19, 2011 11:29 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
It was possibly my favorite soccer game yet.
Sounders down the entire game, 2 goals in the last 5 minutes?
I don’t even know, everyone was in the process of going insane.
by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Oct 19, 2011 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions
I've lived out here for 3 years now and I think they have to stay in DC
I think the owners have said they want to be near a metro stop and asking people to hop onto the Beltway if they don’t have to on a weeknight doesn’t sound all that appealing. I’m curious if the owners ever thought about moving the stadium near Dulles to pair up with Metro as it builds the new line out there. IMO that is where the most land, and cheaper land, would be. But if you live in MD to travel on I-66 or 270 (w/ tolls) is a long and expensive trip. Same could be said for a number of spots in MD. Steve Goff of the WaPo covers United and he made a recent blog post on Buzzard Point being the next option, but who pays for it, especially as the DC City Council continues to descend into disarray (and corruption) will keep DC from moving anytime soon. I think DC was a few years too late
Dullas area would be nice
If they can get the metro built on time.
What do you mean I can't retire at 32?
Relying on DC metro is not a smart business model
It will still take a few more years to complete the metro, and I highly doubt they can find space in one of the few areas building new commercial space along the Dulles highway. I use to live out in Reston and that is a long trip out there via car/public transportation and from DC to that area via metro would take a long time. I think ownership is committed to building in DC or just outside the city so that leaves just MD to build out to. Anyway you cut it, they have to find a new place pronto because they have to be bleeding red year-in/ year-out for playing in RFK.
Since you've been in the area longer
what would they do with RKF if/when United moves out? Is anything else done in there? Could the city just sell it?
What do you mean I can't retire at 32?
Destroy it. It is literally crumbling.
The cost to refurbish it is way too high and ever since the Skins left it has fallen apart. RFK is owned by the city and it doesn’t take long in this city to know if the city owns something it is going to fall apart.
I don't know of alternate fields to play on in the meantime
But I always have thought the best option would be to demolish RFK and build there. It isn’t being used for anything else. Probably too expensive and ownership problems exist (I think most clubs want to own their own stadiums, and WCSA would probably own this one), but as a centralized, logistical standpoint in the long-term it is a far better idea. However, I know of no alternate parks to play in, save FedEx Field, and that is an issue.
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by Joseph Landis on Oct 19, 2011 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions
SKC played at a minor league baseball field in the interim.
I wonder if there is something like that they could use.
"The power of the force has stopped you, you hosers."
True
That was an awful joke of a situation, because it didn’t have the proper dimensions for a soccer field (Although, there is no proper width, one of the easiest things that could have been clarified over the years.) I would prefer a cavernous venue with a proper field to a more intimate setting with a small field. I also find San Jose’s situation to be of equal disdain.
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Twitter stole my soul.
by Joseph Landis on Oct 19, 2011 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions
I can't think of another location
I don’t think Univ. of Maryland would allow DC to use its stadium and I don’t think that would be a good fit either. There has been talk of moving the team to Baltimore but that seems like a permanent move if there is no other alternative. DC is considered the worst (or second worse) commuting area in the country and that complicates the decision even further trying to please fans in VA/DC/MD. Thats why they almost have to keep the team in DC for a central location and with plenty of MLS teams gaining traction due to their central urban stadiums, I think ownership is committed to finding a place in DC.
What about Georgetown?
yeah, it’s not off a metro line, but there’s ways to get there. The Fire played at North Central College in Naperville when Soldier Field was getting renovated. That only sat a few thousand, but they made it.
What do you mean I can't retire at 32?
well, then you know who your fans are
the ones that make it in alive.
What do you mean I can't retire at 32?
you're not looking at this fourth dimensionally...
you know, like helping to control the pet population…
What do you mean I can't retire at 32?
I wish I could have the time I spent reading the BOTC article back.
I, for one, am getting extremely tired of the so-called “politics” that are getting involved in this mess. And this is coming from a political science major. This just reaks of spite-filled polliticking of people whose interests have temporarily aligned.
Mizzou needs to do what’s in the best interest of the school, NOT what’s in the best interest of a city that’s 2 hours away. There are consequences for every action in life, and if KC wants to stop supporting Mizzou over sour-grapes, so be it. As Bill stated earlier, KC MIGHT suffer some economically, but that’s not even a certainty. And regardless, Mizzou has no fiscal responsibility to the city of KC (or STL for that matter). They have a fiscal responsibility to themselves, period.
And I do find it hilariously ironic that KSU and kU (and ISU) fans are now using this thinly-veiled tactic to try and keep Mizzou in the Big 12. The phrase “Quit pissing on my leg and telling me it’s raining,” comes to mind. Fans of those schools don’t give two sh*ts about Mizzou, they just want to keep their beloved basketball tourney close to home. As a poster noted earlier, if Mizzou stays in the Big 12 because they don’t want KC to lose a b-ball tourney (or even if it appears that way), the divide between the different factions of Mizzou fans in MO will grow into a canyon.
by JAThomp33 on Oct 19, 2011 10:26 AM CDT reply actions 2 recs
something interesting on that article
there were a fair number of comments about KC-area MO legislators applying “pressure” to MU by, say, threatening to cut funding if we would go to the SEC. We had Brian Foster come to a board meeting for the Missourian last week (we’re a nonprofit, long story), and there were two depressing things that we learned there:
1) 10 years ago, state revenue was more than twice what tuition revenue is. Now, that’s exactly reversed, and heading toward 75-25 tuition-state funding.
2) State funding is now less than 8 percent of the university’s revenue (about $150MM of a $2 billion budget)
So, the idea that there’s funding to cut is a bit ludicrous.
by jschooltiger on Oct 19, 2011 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions
not only that
but we have a double-edged sword where the state’s cutting funding and we can’t raise revenue by raising tuition. In FY 2010-11, we applied for and got an exception to raise tuition slightly more than the CPI, and Jay Nixon’s next move was to cut that $150MM figure by 5 percent for 2011-12. So … yeah.
by jschooltiger on Oct 19, 2011 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions
The idea that they would try and cut funding at all to the only D-1 school
in the state of approx 6M people over spite of them moving to a better conference, is a bit ludicrous.
That's like saying...
“We don’t want to suffer, so were going to force the students at an instution of higher learning (in case everyone forgot, Mizzou is a SCHOOL first and foremost) instead. Oh, and we’re doing that because we are mad that they may no longer play a basketball tourney in our city anymore.”
I realize it’s not as simple as that, but still, it’s not THAT much more complicated per se….
I would like to think that someone (or multiple people) on the BoC
is plugged into the greater KC business scene and it would be absolutely shocking to me if the BoC hasn’t discussed the impact on KC and how the AD will keep KC involved with Mizzou athletics. As I’ve said before, I wish our conference situation wouldn’t come to this decision to leave because I think the B12 is the very best fit for Mizzou but I’m excited for the new possibilities of the SEC. Politics is all about self-interest for local constituents so to hear someone clamor for political support isn’t surprising; why it has taken so long to call for political action is surprising to me. With the amount of money that Mizzou helps generate in that city, why didn’t these politicians and business leaders move months earlier in their PR campaign (if one actually arises)? I still think KC loses money with Mizzou moving and I’m not as confident as others on here who have said we can easily start a new bball tourney with KSU/KU/ISU and a few other teams. I think KSU and KU can find ways to continue using KC and I’m sure Mizzou will find ways to keep the KC alums happy, just with fewer opportunities.
Well said.
The Prez of the Board of Curators is from KC (Warren Erdman) and is VP at Southern Railroad. He is a bigtime KC guy & I’m sure the loss of the Big 12 tourney is not lost on him.
by tigers and chiefs fan on Oct 19, 2011 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions
I think it really caught everyone off-guard when Mizzou started talking to the SEC
Prior to Oklahoma’s stunt, no one really thought Mizzou had any options. Suddenly, Mizzou had leverage, but even then I don’t think people seriously believed anything would come of it. I think it’s only recently set in that this might actually happen and now people are scrambling for position.
Good point but to say the people of influence in the BoC from KC and the local business people/politicans
haven’t discussed in private starting last summer how Mizzou plans to stay involved in KC would be gross negligence that I couldn’t imagine. Besides, why wouldn’t Mizzou want to stay actively involved in KC? Look at the Bball and Fball rosters and its hard for me to imagine Mizzou not playing a few bball games and one fball game there. If we play an 8 game conference schedule, I would think with an assumed bump in home conference game attendance Mizzou can play one non-con game at Arrowhead.
I 100% agree with you on everything here.
Politicians do everything with the purpose of getting re-elected, so their actions are not surprising at all. The fact that has taken them so long, well maybe that explains why they are still local policitians.
I agree about the BOC as well. These are smart people (some of which are from KC). They did not get to their positions by being dumb and making impulse decisions. If a move is made, it will have been a well-thought out move that has been comtemplated & discussed for a long time.
I also agree that Mizzou’s best position is in an ideal Big 12, where revenue-sharing exists, and they haven’t spent that enire existence of the conference fighting off-the-field battles with their conference mates, while everyone stabs each other in the back. However, if I’m going to spend time wishing for that, I might was well start wishing for a trillion dollar winning lottery ticket as well. They both seem about as likely to exist.
At this point it's not about revenue sharing, its about trust in our southern conference partners
I know others have accused (and with some validity) of Mizzou talking with other conferences well before this whole mess went down. If the AD of Mizzou wasn’t talking to the B10 or SEC, IMO, he or she wouldn’t be doing their job with the academic, athletic, and geographic advantages Mizzou has compared to some other schools in our conference. That previous sentence might come off as a snide comment but being the only state BCS school has its advantages. The AD acts as the “agent” for Mizzou athletics and its his/her job to put Mizzou in the best position to succeed, in this or any conference. I really and truly believe this admin want the B12 to succeed, but that accounts for the other schools buying in to that same philosophy as well. It boggles my mind how quickly people ignore OU and UT voting on the same day to explore new conference membership weeks before Mizzou did.
as Brady said at some point during the discussion
every AD in the country has been talking to other conferences.
by jschooltiger on Oct 19, 2011 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions
Adam Shefter is reporting on twitter
Martin Rucker to Jacksonville. Blaine to Rucker, awesome.
In defense of my colleague...
He was writing it out of concern as a Kansas City resident. I, too, am a resident of Kansas City, Mo (as he pointed out). You are absolutely crazy if you don’t think this upsets me as a resident of the city. I’d feel the exact same way if the Royals or the Chiefs left town. I was FOR the creation of a downtown baseball stadium in KC for the economic impact even though, personally, it’s much easier for me to attend and see games at Kauffman. So, to say that our motivations are purely driven by conference affiliation or anything like that is hogwash. We could and would have written a completely different article covering that. This particular piece covered the impact to the city we live in.
I realize that bringing this conversation to RMN is probably a bad idea. But, as I mentioned in the comments on our site, there isn’t a group of blog managers I respect more, nor a blog community that I enjoy more than RMN. Bill is aware of the unworldly amount of respect that we have for him, RPT, and the rest of you. However, on this particular issue, we are very, very much divided. The analogy I gave on our site is that we’re related to different parties in a very public and messy divorce right now. It’s natural for us to take sides. It’s probably certain there will be hurt feelings when it’s all said and done. However, that doesn’t mean that we have anything against Rock M Nation, Bill, or any of the rest of you. We just have a very, very strong opinion on a matter of subjects relating to this move.
Also, as another member of our community pointed out, we at BOTC have warm feelings towards Missouri (By and large; I can’t speak for everyone), and that makes this hurt much, much more than any of the other departures. And from a place of hurt comes anger, and from anger comes whatever it is that’s coming out right now. I’ll halt channeling my inner-Yoda on this one, but that’s what you’re seeing. For anyone to say we have a history of Mizzou bashing on our site is totally incorrect, as Bill pointed out above.
You can now return to your regularly scheduled programming.
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by Panjandrum on Oct 19, 2011 11:46 AM CDT reply actions 5 recs
Well said, PJ . . .
. . . I have always thought there was more to the RMN/BOTC relationship than just a mutual dislike for KU. Hopefully, that similarity of thinking/feeling will continue into the future regardless the outcome of conference reallignments. Even if we should happen to end up in different conferences, I will still go to your site regularly to read common sense offerings about the Big 12.
Where you stand on an issue is where you sit.
I completely understand why the post was written and if I were in the position of a KSU fan (or a KU fan) I would want something to be said or done as well to protect what the KC sports scene already has. I hope you or any other fan/writer wouldn’t be hesitant to bring up a contentious issue on this site and I hope we can all be cordial to one another on this surprisingly emotional sports issue. As I said previously, I have confidence in our admin and hopefully the KSU/KU admins to help keep KC as an active college sports scene. Will it be the same if Mizzou moves? Probably not and thats a shame. Should it stop Mizzou from moving to a different conference? It doesn’t appear our admin is going to let it stop the ball from rolling.
No offense, but the loss of the Royals or Chiefs
is so remarkably different than the loss of a 4-day tournament (which you may still not lose if the B12 expands their footprint to the east and keeps KC in the geographic center).
I get that the potential loss of the tournament would sting, but to mention it in the same breathe as losing one of your two professional sports teams is laughable.
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by The Beef on Oct 19, 2011 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
I struggled with an anaology. Maybe I should have used NASCAR races or something to that effect.
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Agreed...NASCAR is much closer to correct in my book
As that is a weekend typically with 2-3 races. The crowd is much bigger for that compared to basketball, but I think that is much closer
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TURN LEFT!
Good.
DO IT AGAIN.
by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Oct 19, 2011 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions
YAY!
Pan mentioned one of my comments!
I feel respected now.
Would you like some Freys with that?
by ChrisP Wildcat on Oct 19, 2011 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions
The thing I don't understand is the onus on the politicians
They aren’t the ones making the decision, and honestly, them exerting undue influence in order to get a result that is good for KC(even at the expense of Mizzou’s health, which seems to be a fair assumption given the wording) is not behavior that should be encouraged.
I can understand the sentiment and the frustration as we just went through aTm’s departure(although not quite the same for reasons that have been discussed ad nauseum), but the only real people that can be called to action are officials of the University, or a large contingent of the fanbase. And unfortunately for KC, it appears the University officials have listened to the cries of the fanbase, and those cries have been passionately in favor of leaving the Big 12 for the SEC.
by Transmogrified Tiger on Oct 19, 2011 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Heck, I would love to stay in the Big 12 and it sucks that KC will most likely take some sort of hi.
But staying in the Big 12 is a really stupid thing to do for our school and our athletics. The Big 12 is severely injured and will never be what it used to be. Plus, no telling what Texas and Oklahoma decide to do or where they will go once the 6 year handcuff passes. I know one this is for sure, that the best interests of ISU, KSU, KU and MU or the Big 12 will not be considered when those schools are making their choices.
After a bit of reflection, I would like to qualify a few things I posted earlier.
First, Pan and TB, I respect you two specifically and BotC in general more than you can imagine. It is largely for this reason that I posted all of my comments here as opposed to on your site. I whole-heartedly apologize that my comments may have been more terse than intended but the post did irritate rather greatly. Like you have mentioned, this is like a messy divorce and we all are rather emotionally invested in the outcome.
That said, I still feel that TB’s comments are rather disingenuous after all that has been written the last two weeks. Again, if you are both so committed to the health of KC then I question your motives when the crux of your opinion is that political pressure should be brought to bear against Mizzou in order to keep them in the Big XII. This brings you in direct conflict of many Mizzou alumni and a large number of people on this board, who you know will be discussing that post. Not only that but while the interests of KC should be considered they are not the concerns of every region of Missouri and the KC/StL animosity is a very real aspect of Missouri politics.
From my point of view, if you are serious in your devotion to KC then you will also take up a letter writing campaign to the Big XII board of directors regarding the future of the basket ball tournament. Putting pressure on the Kansas legislature might also be a suggestion (since you seem so willing to use this tactic in Missouri) so that KU and KSU would be pressured to continue playing Mizzou in KC.
The problem I have is not that KC area voters are looking out for their community but that the message itself has been very one dimensional and comes from someone who obviously puts K-State interests above that of Mizzou. I am sorry if it offends but my tax dollars support the university system in Missouri, not Kansas,and thus I feel I am understandably irritated when supporters of a Kansas school want to put pressure on Missouri politicians.
by GreenRipper on Oct 19, 2011 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions 6 recs
If Kansas really cared about the hit to the KC area
than I doubt they would be mentioning that there is not much interest on their part in continuing the Border War.
What will KC be losing anyways, the bball tourney? Why is that on us? Shouldn’t the remaining schools in the area be focusing on the rest of the Big 12 to keep that tourney in KC? Couldn’t Kansas tie that to their deal with Texas with airing the KU football game on the LHN since they seem like its important to them to help Texas make their network successful?
This stuff should have been worked out months or years ago and not at the last minute. Its not just on Mizzou but on all of us here from the remaining North Big 8 schools. We should have been working as a team, as a block, all along.
To be fair
Putting Kansas football on LHN does nothing to help that network. KU pulled off the scam of the century and they should be commended for it.
Agreed...the money they are getting from UT for that
considering the utter lack of carriage of the LHN is amazing and kU should be commended for it.
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I thought they are getting 500k for that? If so, that seems pretty short of amazing,
and saying that it does nothing to help the network is flat out wrong. It might not help alot but it did allow Texas to get a conference game on their network which will bring some pressure to make it available locally for those Texas fans who wish to see that game and aren’t traveling to see it.
It is likely more money than kU would have otherwise received for the weekend to be fair
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That's fine though,
since they don’t have to generate all that extra revenue for the post-game buffett. And the pre-game buffet. And the Tuesday afternoon buffet. And the Friday morning buffet. And, well you get the point….
I'm not sure if I buy into your logic that w/o Mizzou KC can still keep the bball tourney
I would find it hard to justify keeping a bball tourney in a state where you have zero teams, especially if you add another Texas school in TCU. One of the central problems with the B12 was the fact that it took 4 schools (UT, OU, NU, and A&M) to squash anything the smaller schools wanted.
and so it should have only taken 4 schools, KSU, KU, MU and ISU to squash
what those other four wanted?
Um, no
The Little 8: We want equal revenue sharing!
The Big 4: No.
The Little 8: Well… we still want it.
Nebraska: That’s it, we’ve had it! We’re leaving for a conference that has equal revenue sharing!
The Little 8: WTF?
by Gaknar on Oct 19, 2011 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
This, the 4 bigs already had what they wanted
and they wanted to have the freedom for their own networks, unequal revenue sharing (which Mizzou has benefited from recently), and allowing UT to leverage conference realignment into the creation of LHN.
.
The Big 4 had the power to kill any initiative they wanted, but the Little 8 had the power to prevent things like the LHN. So what we had was a static conference that was unable and unwilling to respond to changing conditions in college sports. The other conferences were more flexible and forward-thinking, so they were in a position to take advantage of the Big XII’s inertia.
I think the point was made that the B12 would not want to host the tourney
in a state that is no longer part of their footprint, which is a valid concern. It is also not a concern that should preclude MU from making a move.
And I agree about kU. That’s what really bugs me about all this. There is plenty that could be done to keep KC a viable college sports town. Everyone has alterior motives (which is fine, I guess), but they are choosing to pursue them in annoying and thinly-veiled ways.
I don't get the impression that the Big 12 is trying to display
Neinas is doing the one thing Beebe did not, being more vocal but Neinas is still not acting aggressive and his business logic eludes me. Article after article states the Big 12’s plan with all the projected hypotheticals.
Big 12 – aTm= Big 12 + TCU. (Ummm..yeah?)
Big 12 with Mizzou= “x” amount of $$$ and “stability” with 10 members. (Current best case scenario for Big 12?)
Big 12- Mizzou+3 other schools=“y” amount of $$$ and “stability” with 12 members.
Why not appear aggressive and strong by getting 2 of the 3 now (before that road gets rougher). A Big 12 + Mizzou+ 2 more would be easier to reneg a tv contract for more $$ & may entice Mizzou to stay. If Mizzou leaves, bring on the last inductee to the mayhem and maintain or better the tv contracts. This appearance of the “wait and see what Mizzou does” is illogical to me.
by McZou on Oct 19, 2011 12:30 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
...because I would guess that they are not waiting for Mizzou.
Rather it’s another way to impose a type of leverage towards Mizzou.
by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Oct 19, 2011 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions
For them to save face in a way, and also cast blame towards Mizzou
I could go with that sentiment.
by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Oct 19, 2011 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions
And while we're on the topic of KC and the basketball tourney
Has there been any discussion on how new membership influences the tourney location? The longstanding rumor is that some combination of Louisville, WVU, BYU, and Cincinnati would be coming on if Mizzou were to leave. If having a tournament that’s remotely central is important, then Kansas City is still a very viable option. Louisville(and to a lesser extent West Virginia) fans would most certainly have an interest in travelling to the tournament, and it’s at least a possibility to drive to KC rather than fly to OKC or Dallas. If Cincy becomes the 12th team instead of BYU the argument is even stronger, even setting aside the whole “25% of our conference is within 4 hours of here including the most storied basketball program” aspect.
tl;dr With Mizzou and aTm gone and TCU, L’Ville, WVU, and BYU/Cincy in, KC is still the most central spot to host the tourney.
by Transmogrified Tiger on Oct 19, 2011 12:32 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
THIS
I never did exactly understand why the tournament HAD to leave KC if MU left the conference. Not ideal, but if the sports commission was true to their mission, which is to KANSAS CITY (and not to either Missouri or Kansas), then I never did understand why MU leaving would be an absolute death-blow. And if the conference is going to be expanding the footprint east, then KC remains the geographic center of the conference with 5 schools still within close proximity.
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I think the idea is that
Texas, Tech, Baylor, TCU, Okie & OSU will all make a push for it to be moved to Dallas. If it’s a 10 team conference, that’s 60% right there including the 2 largest sticks in the room.
I’m not saying there is no way they keep the tournament from staying in the KC if Mizzou leaves, but your best bet to keep it in KC is to keep Mizzou in the Big 12.
It’s like, you can win football games by throwing the ball and having no running game. But it’s a much easier win if you have the running game too.
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Well...I guess that would be a job for the KC Sports Commission
I agree obviously that if MU stays, they have a much easier time keeping the tourney in KC, but I really struggle to agree with the idea that because MU leaves, the tournament is automatically gone no matter what (especially untrue to me if teams from east of Missouri are added).
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I think we agree on the point about it being automatic
but KC Sports Commission’s job (in this particular instance) is to keep the tournament in KC.
Might as well try to recruit a running back to go with that high octane passing attack.
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And lest we forget, the tournament hasn't exactly been an institution in KC
It had a run at the start of the conference, but KC has only hosted 4 of the last 9 tournaments.
by Transmogrified Tiger on Oct 19, 2011 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions
True
Who’s to say even if Mizzou stays that the tourney remains in KC. If the schools in Texas keep increasing their number in the conference I suspect it’ll get moved anyway.
by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Oct 19, 2011 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions
FIFY
It’s like, you can win football games by throwing the ball and having norunning gamefullback. But it’s a much easier win if you have therunning gamefullback too.
by JAThomp33 on Oct 19, 2011 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
well as we learned in bill's isu study hall,
you don’t necessarily have to use the running game, you just need to be able to if the need arises.
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by threadkiller on Oct 19, 2011 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions
I never said use, just said have
which I think would mean to be able to if the need arises.
Because if you don’t have a running game, you aren’t able to use it.
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don't be so defensive. i never called you out (this time).
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by threadkiller on Oct 19, 2011 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions
defensive is the only way I know how to be though
it was either pick a nit or say something crazy and end up talking about the ability of 1-eyed people to wink. You wouldn’t want that now would you?
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You’re so defensive, I’m starting to think you’re Coach Steckel.
Try the veal. :)
by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Oct 19, 2011 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions
That's an option?
Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet.
Get the quail.
by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Oct 19, 2011 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions
do I just order at the bar or can I put in the order with you?
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If you order them from me
they’s gonna have pellets in ’um.
by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Oct 19, 2011 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions
well
one the one hand, I’ll have to spit out pellets
on the other hand, if it doesn’t have pellets in it, it may not be dead or it may have died from a disease that could carry over to me
I’ll order from you, just put it on my tab.
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i've seen how that ends.
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by threadkiller on Oct 19, 2011 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions
And this baffles me.
Mizzou should not act in its own self interest and go to the SEC, because KU & KSU’s conference mates will act in their own self interest to move the tournament out of KC. Yeah, Mizzou’s the problem here. Right.
by IHatedHarpos on Oct 19, 2011 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't think anybody said that here
I was just pointing out that the KC Sport’s Commission should act in it’s own self interest of preserving the tourney in KC. While Mizzou may not be vital to that endeavor it would certainly help them with that.
I never said that Mizzou should listen to the KC Sports Commission, act in any way that is not aligned with its own self interests or that Mizzou was the problem.
I’m not Harpo’s man, don’t hate me.
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Oh, I know you're not saying it.
That’s my interpretation of the “Mizzou is destroying KC sports” people.
by IHatedHarpos on Oct 19, 2011 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions
well then
I’m glad you don’t hate me.
If anything is killing KC sports it would be David Glass and Clark Hunt.
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Truth.
How about some post-season baseball games to bring some money into KC?
by IHatedHarpos on Oct 19, 2011 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions
maybe get people from other towns and cities in Missouri to come to Kaufmann
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why?
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by threadkiller on Oct 19, 2011 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions
to be fair,
the expectations are higher now than they have been in a long time, aren’t they? best farm system of all time ready to pay dividends at the big league level?
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by threadkiller on Oct 19, 2011 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions
i really don't know, I'm a Cards fan
every off-season my Royals friends tell me how they really have something going in the farm system.
I don’t root against the Royals by any stretch. I’d love for them to make the World Series every year to get swept by the Cardinals every year, but I certainly don’t have any sort of insight to the farm system.
I hear it’s very good. It generally is very good. But it’s generally not good enough to make a competitive MLB team during the season.
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you are a sports fan in kansas city.
i could construe your above post as having your head in your pants.
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by threadkiller on Oct 19, 2011 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions
i accept your apologies and expect more in the future.
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by threadkiller on Oct 19, 2011 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions
I guess either
I would assume Dallas because I think Texas still has the bigger stick, but they may rotate or something. I forgot about OKC’s arena.
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Mizzou and Kansas City
I find this whole issue of Mizzou’s effect on Kansas City quite interesting. There are a lot of fans (ku, kstate and some Mizzou) that seem to think Mizzou to the SEC is going to destroy the local economy of Kansas City. These same people are the people celebrating every single time a downtown Kansas City business, like AMC theaters, moves its office to Johnson County because "Kansas City is trash and methy, etc."
I’d say a company with $2.5 billion in earnings and 450 employees leaving Kansas City, Missouri is far more damaging than a 4 day tournament that brings in $14 million dollars. On top of this, these AMC employees eat in downtown Kansas City restaurants, pay for parking (most likely) in downtown Kansas City and use downtown hotels for business/consultants. This is just one example of a business leaving and there are others, such as Key Bank.
Even though these businesses are still in the Kansas City Metro area, it hurts Kansas City, Missouri in a significantly economic way. These leaders and fans of other schools who are suddenly concerned with Mizzou ruining Kansas City should probably focus more of their efforts on Kansas City as a whole instead of focusing on what is convenient for them at the time.
This is coming from a diehard Tiger fan who lives in KC and approves of the move to the SEC.
by P_Tiger on Oct 19, 2011 12:46 PM CDT reply actions 4 recs
Rec'd, and I whole-heartedly agree.
Mizzou is a convenient scapegoat in this situation. It’s easier to point the finger at someone else, than to focus on the three fingers that are still pointed at you.
"Mizzou is a convenient scapegoat in this situation."
That statement pretty much sums up the entire conference realignment saga.
Did you see what Mizzou was wearing?
(so tired of this analogy)
by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Oct 19, 2011 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Mizzou is really excited for Halloween
because it gets to dress up like a Naughty Nurse.
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by mizzou2396 on Oct 19, 2011 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
we should send him some 5HE
obviously all this waiting in line for coffee is making him very upset
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People really need to stop listening and commenting about him
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by The Beef on Oct 19, 2011 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
but he's hilarious
it’s like listening to a caricature of sports talk host (should sport be apostrophe s?).
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I wish I was listening
I find it funny how far he and Jack have split since the whole Mizzou to the SEC thing started.
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Harry's argument was "You just can't stand it, You are so jealous!"
KK, No I’m not, I don’t care about this I’m just ‘REPORTING!’"
Harry, “You are too. I know how you operate.”
KK is basically trying to portray us as Nebraska fans
He says we’re all arrogant and that we’re trying to show up everyone else in the conference.
The vitriol against him here has certainly not been too big an issue
But man alive does he have purveyors of other MU fan sites over a barrel every time he opens his mouth
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It's entertaining radio
Won’t deny that.
Oh wait, KK is saying Jay Nixon is driving it all. See! Hilarious!
what's so funny about that? it's the truth.
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by threadkiller on Oct 19, 2011 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions
can't hear you. my mind belongs to kk.
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by threadkiller on Oct 20, 2011 7:18 AM CDT up reply actions
How will we know when he stops then?
By the way, were do you all tailgate? I’m in town this weekend and would like to stop by.
What do you mean I can't retire at 32?
We are in the back of Lot P (behind Mizzou arena)
The tailgate this week will be VERY low key because of the start time and other things, but we should have some food, some beer and perhaps some bloody marys (if they last long enough). We will be out there by around 8am…no telling when Bill C. will show (though we are hopeful it will be earlier than before, as we may have fixed a situation for him)
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How steep is the walk from Lot P
My 87 year old grandmother still has season tickets, but walking to/from the stadium is getting tough for her. We’re thinking of finally breaking down and getting parking passes. I’m pretty sure we have the points, we’ve had season tickets for a while.
a bit downhill to the stadium, a bit uphill back.
They have a shuttle that comes by periodically.
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is it based on number of season tickets you get or does it matter?
in other words, does a person who buys 2 sets of season tickets get the same points as a person who buys 6 sets?
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I agree
even though I do listen occasionally. To each their own, but I do hope people realize that his little purple/black heart glows at the thought of getting mentioned on sites like this, and a negative mention is probably better because it generates more attention.
And I don’t buy that much of the ‘emotion’ that gets displayed is at all genuine. He does what gets him listeners and hence makes him money- screaming and yelling and conflict draws ears.
REC'D SO HARD.
“This guy is really annoying… Let’s all tune in and listen!”
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I was expecting worse when I saw the word rant. It was well-spoken, although probably won't be received well.
On a related note, I still can’t stop laughing at the descriptions that our buddy KSB is giving his fanshots.
by Transmogrified Tiger on Oct 19, 2011 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Suprised I got only one response...
…and it answered no questions.
by achillbreeze on Oct 19, 2011 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions
you'll be there all night now.
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by threadkiller on Oct 19, 2011 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions
if that piece of trash really wanted to spite people,
he should have done this after dark.
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by threadkiller on Oct 19, 2011 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions
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