Mizzou Links, 10-28-11
by Bill C. on Oct 28, 2011 5:53 AM CDT
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Sheesh. We just aren't wanting for links these days, are we? The Missourian unleashes a cool "48 Hours of Football" series (SEC fans: note the RV and tailgating articles, ahem) ... basketball links are picking up ... conference realignment rumors (mostly Big East-related) are still kicking around ... oh yeah, and the SEC accidentally announced Missouri as its 14th member last night for about half an hour. I pulled awkward-looking PDFs of all the pages below, but Clay Travis (at the link Dave provided last night) pulled all the text, which is probably much more user-friendly. No idea why I didn't think of that.
MIZZOU TO THE SEC PDFs
Missouri Joins The SEC
Missouri -- What You Need To Know
Mizzou's SEC Connections
Homecoming Tradition Traced To Missouri
Missouri: The Dortch Report
Missouri: Barnhart's Take
So these articles were saved on Saturday and referenced a Monday announcement. I'm pretty sure that was supposed to be this past Monday; remember that Gabe Dearmond was getting leads about potentially the same Monday announcement on Sunday. It was delayed for one reason or another -- putting together the pieces, it appears that the Big 12 has offered a bit more resistance than anticipated to the idea of Mizzou pulling out for next year -- but I guess whoever delayed the publishing of the pages just picked an arbitrary date in the future ... and it happened to be late on Thursday night? Maybe?
Regardless of how this (incredibly funny) error took place, it was, if nothing else, a sign that both Missouri and the SEC think this is a done deal. The official announcement is being delayed, and we think we know why, but they wouldn't have taken the time to put these pages together if they didn't think this was happening. Now we just go back to waiting for it to become official. As others have pointed out, Brady Deaton leaves to go do academic things in India next week, so if it doesn't happen between today and Monday night, we could be waiting another couple of weeks (at which point moving by next year becomes less of a possibility). We'll see. It was certainly an entertaining glitch, at least for everybody who didn't accidentally publish news of such significance.
Mizzou Football Links
I have followed recruiting for long enough that it is hard to give me starry eyes about a particular recruit. For one thing, recruits don't always work out. For another, it is a bad idea to get your hopes up too much about a particular kid until they actually a) commit, then b) sign. So many things change, and it can be an emotional whirlwind. That said ... I'm struggling to keep my imagination in check when it comes to the thought of the nation's all-time high school passing yardage leader (Maty Mauk) throwing to the nation's all-time high school receiving yardage leader (Dorial Green-Beckham). I realize high school success doesn't translate perfectly to college success, but damn would that be fun.
Oh yeah, and I like that we got a little more hopeful James Franklin article today.
And one quibble about the fun Missourian series: Oklahoma State in no way "packed" the stands. I was quite disappointed with their showing, actually.
- A&M
KC Star: While SEC move is on hold, Missouri will try to make one on the field
The Missourian: Texas A&M a changed team after loss to Missouri last season
The Missourian: Noise simulator prepares Missouri for rowdy away games
PowerMizzou: Man-to-Man: Mizzou vs A&M - QB No. 1
Post-Dispatch: Mizzou QB Franklin looks past his mistakesHe is known for his resilience and poise, but Yost acknowledged that Franklin's self-assurance is a concern.
"You put so much into it, and (if) you don't play as well as you want or you're not as successful as you want to be, it hurts on the inside and everything, but that's what a competitor has to deal with. ... It's all part of the learning curve," Yost said. "You're constantly working on the confidence deal. It's really easy to lose confidence and it's not always as easy to get confidence, so it's a never-ending process."
There are plenty of ways to foster it, though.
To Yost, it probably starts with steeping him in a game plan that identifies what MU believes it can exploit against A&M and reminding him of all he's done well, including largely making good decisions and a vertical passing game in which Franklin is "really ahead of where I'd ever thought he'd be at this point."
It also includes working more directly on some specifics.
For instance, two of Franklin's interceptions against OSU were on balls tipped at the line of scrimmage.
"I've got to do a better job coaching it," said Yost, referring to correcting Franklin even if a pass succeeds in practice when he tries to throw it over a lineman instead of in a passing lane.
- Gaines
PowerMizzou: High risk, high reward - 48 Hours Of Football (From The Missourian)
The Missourian: Hearnes Center parking lot transforms into RV land
The Missourian: Game day for Marching Mizzou starts early
The Missourian: Lifelong fan gives hugs at every Tiger Walk
The Missourian: What it takes to be a baton twirler
The Missourian: Truman the Tiger outshines MU cheerleaders on game day
The Missourian: Shuttle rides to Faurot Field are hectic, yet convenient
The Missourian: Tailgating more about atmosphere than game
The Missourian: Oklahoma State fans pack stands, stick around to celebrate
The Missourian: Football Saturday proves to be good time for ice cream
The Missourian: Shakespeare's Pizza reaches capacity on football Saturdays
The Missourian: Regulars flock to Stadium Grill on NFL Sundays - Recruiting
ESPN HS: Rewriting History: Record books under assault
ESPN HS: Dorial Green-Beckham breaks prep receiving recordAccording to ESPNU, Green-Beckham, the No. 3 player in the ESPNU 150, has not announced a list of five final colleges he’s considering, but the University of Missouri is believed to be in the running.
Missouri already has a commitment from Mauk to be its future signal-caller, so there is the possibility that one national record holder could one day be throwing passes to another national record holder.
Other Football Links
With all of these other things going on, I almost missed this rather significant move by the NCAA. It is about the only "pay the athletes" move it could take, I think, but they appear to have taken it.
- Full-Cost Scholarships
NCAA.org: DI Board of Directors adopt changes to academic and student-athlete welfare
Dr. Saturday: Full-cost scholarships could be tough on smaller schools
MIZZOUEXPANSIONAPALOOZA™ 2011
If Missouri doesn't end up in the SEC, this really would be the ultimate Lucy-and-Charlie-Brown moment, wouldn't it?
- Oopsie
The Trib (Dave Matter): Oops: SEC site briefly "announces" Missouri as new member
The Missourian: SEC post saying Missouri to join league appears then disappears
Post-Dispatch: Apparent SEC statement on Mizzou admission surfaces, disappears
College Football Talk: SEC website posts Missouri as 14th member
CBS Sports: Leaked SEC statement welcomes Missouri to league
Team Speed Kills: The SEC Announces Missouri as 14th Member, But Not Really - Rush the Court: State of the Tiger Nation: Where Missouri Currently Stands in Conference
- CBS Sports: Slive: SEC 'working on' 13 and 14-team schedules
- For Those Who Are "LOL @ B12" Inclined
Outkick The Coverage: The Big 12 and Big East = Two Drunks at a Bar Trying to Hook Up
Daily Oklahoman (Berry Tramel): More madness in conference realignment - Probably The Biggest Issue On The Table To Me
KBIA Sports Extra: Move to SEC could jeopardize one of Mizzou's top teams - Self-Share
SB Nation: Conference Realignment Gets Political Time For Advanced Senator Stats - Oh, Big East...
Big East Coast Bias: Big East Officials Meet with Air Force & Boise, Houston & UCF Have Board Meetings Scheduled
College Football Talk: Boise State confirms meeting with Big East - They Would Certainly Be Available...
NOLA.com: Tommy Tuberville says Big 12 should go after Tulane according to a report
Mizzou Basketball Links
- MUtigers.com: Senior Interview: Steve Moore
- Post-Dispatch: Haith standing firm at Mizzou
- The Maneater: Phil Pressey takes charge
Other Basketball Links
I'm sure I will give this more time in the future -- Parkinson's runs in the family -- but for now I'll just say good luck to Billy Kennedy and the A&M family. This diagnosis is far from the end of the world, but it will certainly be a challenge.
- Kennedy
The Dagger: Texas A&M coach Billy Kennedy diagnosed with Parkinson's
Big 12 Hoops: Texas A&M Coach Billy Kennedy Diagnosed with Early Stages of Parkinson's Disease
CBS Sports: Texas A&M's Kennedy battling Parkinson's
Other Mizzou Links
So I guess it would be a bit too opportunistic to try to call David Freese a "former Tiger" just because he attended school here for a little while, right?
- Askren
The Trib: Askren returns to MMA ring for championship defense - Mizzou Soccer
MUtigers.com: Mizzou Closes Regular Season Friday
Big 12 Sports: Big 12 Digital Network to Stream Six Soccer Championship Matches - Mizzou Wrestling
MUtigers.com: Wrestling Hosts Black and Gold Sunday
Other
- #OccupyBristol
Twitpic: How does Craig James have a job, and we don't?
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Come on Tigers!!
Let’s win this.
TIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRRSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!
by tigers and chiefs fan on Oct 28, 2011 6:38 AM CDT reply actions
Who knows how long those SEC announcements were up before anyone found them
There’s a very plausible story that goes like this:
Someone uploaded them to the web server thinking that there’s no way anyboby would randomly type in that exact URL, without you giving them a press release or a link of some kind to point them at it? So the pages could have been hidden in plain sight until the appropriate moment arrives, and then flip a switch, and you are off to the races…
Except they forgot about search engine crawlers. At some point the SEC server does an automatic sweep, detects and indexes them, and then it’s just a matter of time until some random fan plugs the right search term in and a link to them is magically show to the outside world..
It’s a plan that would have worked beautifully if only they’d thought to put the html code into the header that tells search engines not to index the page. Or maybe the SEC page indexing system isn’t set up to read that code… i bet those are the questions that some internal web nerds are asking themselves right now.
by Wan Ihite on Oct 28, 2011 6:58 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Even though I am ot a wrestling fan, I still think it would be sad to see it go away
by McZou on Oct 28, 2011 6:59 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
ahem.......
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well, blimey.
please excuse the cards outburst, as i don't have the gift of gifs.
well, blimey.
by threadkiller on Oct 28, 2011 7:08 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
A running commentary on the game broke out last night on the LEAFS blog. At the end of the baseball game people started commenting more and more about how gripping the ending was, and that this was coming from people who hadn’t really watched baseball since 1991.
for not having a ny, boston, or california team, this ws has interested the nation, for sure.
well, blimey.
by threadkiller on Oct 28, 2011 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions
Honestly I haven't watched a single inning of the entire Series until last night.
I watched the entire game.
"The power of the force has stopped you, you hosers."
i turned it off after the worst catch attempt in right field ive ever seen
i had nightmares of cards fan’s celebrating all night long
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Okra and Brussel Sprouts will forever be my sworn enemy!
by BillSelfsToupee on Oct 28, 2011 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
well, blimey.
by threadkiller on Oct 28, 2011 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
karma from another thread, suppose i.
well, blimey.
by threadkiller on Oct 28, 2011 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
That play made me want to drive down to St. Louis and punch him in the throat
YOU’RE AN OUTFIELDER, TRACK THE LINE DRIVE
by Transmogrified Tiger on Oct 28, 2011 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions
A slow jog, a bunny hop, and an alligator arm was all the effort he could give on the last out of the World Series
It was amazingly bad.
The worst defensive play of the night on a night when that’s really saying something.
no lie
and if you cant get there, play the ball off the wall and only 1 run scores. simply amazing. i almost punched my dog.
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by BillSelfsToupee on Oct 28, 2011 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions
Wut? Cards had 2 errors just as egregious IMO.
#TakeTheCannonOnTheRoad to Arrowhead
Blow Lowrentz to heck
by Spider_Monkey on Oct 28, 2011 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions
Cards errors were way way worse.
The worst kid on my 12-year-old son’s team catches those popups every time. Bad bad bad.
by IHatedHarpos on Oct 28, 2011 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions
agreed. The Ranger miss was just an attempt on a play which missed.
Cards were channeling Bad News Bears for a bit. Now I see why Holliday and Freese come out for defensive replacements. But way to make up for it Freese.
#TakeTheCannonOnTheRoad to Arrowhead
Blow Lowrentz to heck
by Spider_Monkey on Oct 28, 2011 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions
I'll add a...
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
I think we'll reconcile it by winning!
-Kim English
by Jack618 on Oct 28, 2011 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Mizzou should stay in the big 12
Mizzou can use its possible leaving as leverage to shape and make a better big 12. Mizzou will have no such opportunity with the SEC.
by fracas on Oct 28, 2011 7:10 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
yeah, lies and leverage make for a great conference structure.
well, blimey.
by threadkiller on Oct 28, 2011 7:14 AM CDT up reply actions
Creamy Herbed Potatoes
Ingredients
4 To 5 Whole Russet Potatoes
1 stick Butter
1 whole Medium Onion, Finely Diced
8 ounces, weight Cream Cheese
¾ cups Heavy Cream
1 cup Whole Milk (Half-and-Half Works, Too)
1 teaspoon Finely Chopped Rosemary
1 teaspoon Finely Chopped Parsley
1 teaspoon Finely Chopped Chives
½ teaspoons Finely Chopped Sage
Preparation Instructions
Preheat oven to 350 degrees.
Slice potatoes very thinly.
Add butter to a large skillet over medium low heat. When melted, add diced onion. Cook for 3 minutes, stirring occasionally.
Add cream cheese to the pan and stir to melt. Pour in cream and milk, stirring to combine.
Season with plenty of salt and pepper, then add chopped herbs.
Place potatoes in a buttered baking dish. Pour contents of skillet over the top. Top with Parmesan cheese and bake for 45 minutes, or until bubbly.
Allow potatoes to sit 15 minutes before serving.
by jschooltiger on Oct 28, 2011 7:18 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
I can have this for breakfast right?
Because you made me want to.
Cream cheese, whole milk & heavy cream.
Can you go wrong?
by tigers and chiefs fan on Oct 28, 2011 8:02 AM CDT up reply actions
Saaage-Rosemary and Chiiiiives...
That’s how the song goes right? Well it does today.
by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Oct 28, 2011 9:30 AM CDT up reply actions
A sage observation
If I do say so myself.
by Wan Ihite on Oct 28, 2011 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Just because someone disagrees with your stance does not make it trolling.
"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010
by ghtd36 on Oct 28, 2011 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
This.
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by RPT on Oct 28, 2011 11:47 AM CDT via iPhone app up reply actions
Chicken and Veggie Hand Pies
Ingredients
1 (13.8 ounce) can Pillsbury® refrigerated classic pizza crust
1/4 cup reduced-fat garden vegetable cream cheese spread
1 cup finely shredded cooked chicken breast
1/2 cup finely chopped fresh broccoli
1/4 cup chopped red bell pepper
Directions
Heat oven to 425 degrees F. Lightly spray cookie sheet with cooking spray.
Unroll dough onto cookie sheet. Starting at center, press out dough into 14×10-inch rectangle; cut into 4 (7×5-inch) rectangles. Spoon 1 tablespoon cream cheese spread onto half of each rectangle, spreading to within 1/2 inch of edges. Top each with 1/4 cup chicken, 2 tablespoons broccoli and 1 tablespoon bell pepper. Fold dough in half over filling; press edges firmly with fork to seal. Prick tops with fork to vent.
Bake 11 to 13 minutes or until golden brown.
Footnotes
Try a different flavor of cream cheese spread, such as garlic or chive-and-onion, in place of the garden vegetable spread.
by Gaknar on Oct 28, 2011 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions 6 recs
And now the bit is dead.
Congratulations.
"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010
Never was a fan of this deal...
but oh well…Bully for Old Mizzou! Now just what am I going to do with my MOUNTAIN of anti-kU (do i….do i…spell it with a K now?) stuff? Shirts, hats, towels, beer can holders…
Wear them, wear them, use them, drink from them.
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by RPT on Oct 28, 2011 7:51 AM CDT up reply actions 6 recs
sophistication never goes out of style.
well, blimey.
by threadkiller on Oct 28, 2011 8:59 AM CDT up reply actions
If there really is a fight over exit fees and the impact that dropping to 9 has on the Big 12
this snafu seems to undermine an awful lot of painstaking work by the SEC.
They go to great lengths to not officially consider membership from teams that are still members of a different conference. Everybody knows it didn’t work that way in practice, but there’s nothing concrete you can point to.
And then this happens, which is about as concrete as you could hope to find outside of a FOIA request. If there’s a point in them going through all that kabuki (and I’m not convinced there is), this seems like a huge own goal.
Maybe the SEC will end up footing the bill for MU’s exit fee.
Yeah, it’s certainly hard to predict how this would play out, but the possibilities cover a staggering range. It could fall anywhere between the unbelievably expensive own-goal that you describe, to pushing Mizzou into stay for the exbtra year, to a non-issue if the B12 can get BYU or WVU to step in immediately.
I’m guessing they officially claim that it was a rogue over-enthusiastic press person, and in no way an official declaration of everything…. But anything official that documents the SEC trying to tempt Mizzou away opens them for potential liability to whatever damages might fall out.
Somewhere in Birmingham a webgeek is catching nine kinds of hell right now...
…and desperately trying to explain how this happened. But it reminds me of the line “we don’t take a crap without a plan, son”.
Since there’s been a premature announcement, how about a premature welcome to “The Greatest Conference in College Football”™.
I'm not really a CPA, I just play one on television.
by BamaTaxMan on Oct 28, 2011 8:32 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Premature thanks!
Advocating for the "Spreadbone" since 2010
Rock M Nation
by The Beef on Oct 28, 2011 8:34 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
It's not premature.
it’s ESS EEE SEE SPEED!
In seriousness, if it was legit, then it would appear that whomever is doing the writing on behalf of the SEC needs to be taken out back and beaten with a stick. (Was going to stay rubber hose, but Birmingham has a bad history with that kind of thing.) It’s a horribly written release. Then again, it’s the south. What else should yall expect?
by SEC Supremacist on Oct 28, 2011 8:43 AM CDT up reply actions
Oops, my bad...
…but isn’t this more RELATIVISTIC SPEED. (Like being there before it happens).
I'm not really a CPA, I just play one on television.
Nope
in the ESS EEE SEE we’re so fast we know things before they happen. OMNISCIENT SPEED!
by SEC Supremacist on Oct 28, 2011 9:08 AM CDT up reply actions
Nothingness expands faster than light
bigbang’d
by SEC Supremacist on Oct 28, 2011 10:05 AM CDT up reply actions
Sorry, I tried to stop it from being sent.
by McZou on Oct 28, 2011 10:29 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
That's alright...stuff often arrives earlier than planned to ZD's sister
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Rock M Nation
by The Beef on Oct 28, 2011 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
no. sent from my phone
Sometimes you can stop it before it completely sends
by McZou on Oct 28, 2011 10:33 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Be the first (and probably last) I say this on RMN
but Roll Tide! Look forward to playing ball with y’all….
Thanks, DB
I know a lot of Bama fans are really looking forward to the first away games at Mizzou and Texas A&M. Me included. I looked at Mizzou’s record against our beloved SEC and I have to say, I’m impressed. Then I looked at the basketball record against us and they are the total opposite of what I would have thought.
Our football competes in the SEC but not bball? (that IS a strange record)
We’re a football school. Yea!!!!
Maybe we’ll go take our bball program back from Mike Anderson in the SEC.
#TakeTheCannonOnTheRoad to Arrowhead
Blow Lowrentz to heck
by Spider_Monkey on Oct 29, 2011 6:16 AM CDT up reply actions
"But, but, but... The interwebs are complicated y'all. I done HTMLed the H-E-double hockey sticks out of this...
Must of been a west virginia fan that done this. Mr. Slive, they done got computers next to those burning couches now days. We been hacked!" -SEC Web Geek
An interesting quote in that thar article
The Big 12’s board of directors voted Friday morning and chose West Virginia over Louisville. They will stay at 10 schools, a source said.
by SEC Supremacist on Oct 28, 2011 9:06 AM CDT up reply actions
Depends on when WVU moves
if Mizzou wants to leave before WVU can join, expect a lawsuit. WVU has options to get out before the 27th month. Pitt and whomever else is leaving the Big East is looking at using them as well.
by SEC Supremacist on Oct 28, 2011 9:25 AM CDT up reply actions
What options?
No way will the Big East let anyone out before 2014.
Even if 3 more football programs leave the bball programs will keep them to the 27 months.
No way big east will dissolve as it still has the AQ and BBall programs.
by fracas on Oct 28, 2011 9:51 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I don't see them specified anywhere, but it was noted by Pitt and Syracuse officials that they had "options"
to go ahead and join the ACC before the 27 months was up. I’m assuming those same “options” are open to Wf’nVU
by SEC Supremacist on Oct 28, 2011 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions
keeping anyone who's announced plans to leave around longer
will not help the Big East keep its AQ. The next BCS contract will give the Big East AQ status or not (most likely not) based on its members in the 2014 season, not whether or not SU, Pitt, WVU, and anyone else played in the Big East in the 2013 season. Getting a minimal number of replacements in for the 2012 season may be almost impossible, but as long as enough newcomers can join for the 2013 season to stay an FBS conference, there’s no reason not let SU & Pitt leave after the 2012-2013 academic year.
Yep.
If it’s WVU flying in and the B12 stays at 10, then I see that as huge pressure for them to take a hard line (both carrot and stick) for Mizzou staying one more season.
But if the BE sticks to it's guns on the 27 months
WVU can’t join till 2014, putting them in the same spot.
there are conflicting reports out on this all ready
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Okra and Brussel Sprouts will forever be my sworn enemy!
by BillSelfsToupee on Oct 28, 2011 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions
NEVER ENOUGH!!!!!!!!!!!!
twitter handle: @asstastic_o1
Okra and Brussel Sprouts will forever be my sworn enemy!
by BillSelfsToupee on Oct 28, 2011 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Well I bought a year's supply
but having to find a place to store them all so they could be fetched one at a time over the days and months was way too inconvenient, and involved far more work than operating a coffee machine ever did. So I just drank them all now, and I figure if you add up all of those 5 hour blocks I’ll be in great shape for a long time to come..
by Wan Ihite on Oct 28, 2011 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
The candle that burns twice as bright burns half as long.
/Name the sci-fi books I stole that from and you get 1 free internets.
//Yes, I realize it’s an old proverb.
by Babbalynski on Oct 28, 2011 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions
Ah, no.
Never read that one. Love Blade Runner, though.
by Babbalynski on Oct 28, 2011 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions
It sounded so familier and I just couldn't place it.
one of my favs for sure.
"The power of the force has stopped you, you hosers."
Oh, I knew the movie was based on the book.
I thought it was only roughly based on it, though.
by Babbalynski on Oct 28, 2011 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions
RE: Mizzou to the SEC
How do both the SEC and MIzzou do damage control? Go ahead and announce? Delay announcement? Throw someone under a bus?
I don’t think the bus is a legitimate option. “Hey, we’re going to announce, just not right now…” doesn’t really sooth anyone. From a PR prerspective, what’s everyone’s best bet?
by SEC Supremacist on Oct 28, 2011 9:04 AM CDT reply actions
The SEC has evidently thrown the "web vendor" under the bus.
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Yeah, but it doesn't stick
“He published it before he was supposed to”
Oh, really? Why give him the write up? What Monday did the write up reference? Was it this past Monday? Why did the announcement not make it then? Is it next Monday? Why not go ahead and tell us now?
It opens the door to WAY too many questions from reporters with 1/2 a brain. And I’m not even a journalist. I’m sure some of your jschool kids could come up with much better questions to pick that apart.
by SEC Supremacist on Oct 28, 2011 9:14 AM CDT up reply actions
Even though there's obviously a raging inferno where there is smoke here...
To play devil’s advocate, let’s not act like it’s out of the realm of possibility for PR organizations to draft releases for things that never come to pass.
This statement is, of course, independent of what clearly seems to be happening.
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by RPT on Oct 28, 2011 9:25 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
I agree and I have written such things
but you always leave the date blank so it doesn’t accidently get posted with the wrong date. You also don’t send it to the IT guys until it’s ready. Common sense. And I argue it’s still terribly written.
by SEC Supremacist on Oct 28, 2011 9:27 AM CDT up reply actions
Well, if you have a decent web publishing system
the IT guys don’t have anything to do with it. Once they install and configure the system, the rest is on PR/Corp Comm.
Point well taken
but then the web vendor excuse doesn’t stand up.
by SEC Supremacist on Oct 28, 2011 9:31 AM CDT up reply actions
Right, but if both parties (Mizzou & SEC) aren't ready to announce
anything for any number of reasons right now, someone has to take the fall.
by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Oct 28, 2011 9:40 AM CDT up reply actions
Agreed. Which is why an interepid reporter could push on that point.
I’m just saying someone in Birmingham made a dumbass move. (Nothing new there)
by SEC Supremacist on Oct 28, 2011 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions
Oh yeah, dumbass, no question
And reporters are welcome to push all they want, but the reporters were never buying the kabuki to start with. The only audience this REALLY matters for in the big picture is the lawyers. If this is taken as prima faci evidence of the SEC interfering in the B12’s affairs in ways that generate enormous financial losses, and if the Big 12 does not have a replacement team available to mitigate those losses, this could be a REALLY expensive slip up. But those are both big ifs.
Texas and OU to the PAC!
#TakeTheCannonOnTheRoad to Arrowhead
Blow Lowrentz to heck
by Spider_Monkey on Oct 29, 2011 6:17 AM CDT up reply actions
You just claim that this was not an official press release
just contingency press releases written in case future hypothetical events happened. Like newspapers that write two stories before a sports game – one for if the team wins, and another for if it loses. I mean, they could also have articles written and ready to go about how Mizzou decided to stay in the Big 12. Just because you thought it MIGHT happen doesn’t mean you’ve done anything to make sure it WILL happen.
That’d be my spin.
It's like ten pages long and features two lengthy interviews
So I don’t think it passes as preparing for a hypothetical
The biggest mystery to me is why anybody at the SEC thinks anybody would want to read this much analysis at the SEC site. Put up a five paragraph release and be done with it.
Well it’s obviously a plausible hypothetical, and in a world that’s proven to move as quickly and suddenly as conference reallignment it might seem prudent to prepare very thoroughly for all kinds of contingencies. Not that anyone would really believe that claim, but it’d be the legal one.
And yeah, the releases were a bit lame, but I think they’re aimed at winning over other SEC fan bases and trying to build buzz, more than at informing the press of recent developments.
Press releases aren't written as developments for reporters
They’re written for lazy reporters who will just copy and paste the whole damn thing.
by SEC Supremacist on Oct 28, 2011 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions
Funnily enough, and without detouring into politics, if you read lefty and righty political blogs in the US, the one thing they seem to agree on is that the MSM are a bunch of stenographers with a pretty skewed bias. The direction they think that bias goes in runs in completely opposite directions, but the thought is held nearly as vehemently either way.
And further,
the press has a tendency to feel validated from taking heat from both sides even though in reality this in no way implies that they are doing anything close to a competent job. See NYU prof Jay Rosen (and his extensive web writings) for some really smart critiques of this.
And for the most part, they're right
except for mizzou j school kids… they would never ctrl+c; ctrl+v.
/kissing ass before the locals get rowdy
by SEC Supremacist on Oct 28, 2011 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions
But these aren't press releases
These are articles written with the copyright reserved to the SEC. They’re serving no purpose that I can imagine (unless there really are sports fans who use the SEC network as a primary source of news).
Yeah, I don't think that hour long leak carries much weight
Mizzou has already said they are looking at options. Deaton admitted to conversation with the SEC. Contact between Mizzou in the SEC isn’t a risk at this point. All you have to do is show that “hey, this isn’t an official thing and was a mistake”, and I don’t think there’s really any ramifications.
by Transmogrified Tiger on Oct 28, 2011 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions
I don't claim to understand the law here
But it seems like “they’re just as bad as we are” isn’t a defense that’s going to hold up in court. I wouldn’t be surprised at all if Big East schools launch the same sorts of suits against the Big12 as they did against the ACC when the ACC took the 3 schools in 2003 (which I think is the precedent that’s guiding the SEC here).
I'm no lawyer either
But it’s called “unclean hands” doctrine and it is a valid legal defense. I’ve seen it referenced in regards to realignment several times. That’s what basically killed Baylor’s lawsuit threats. With Oklahoma back in the fold and TCU coming in, the Big XII had no grounds to claim that the loss of Texas A&M was doing irreparable harm to the conference. By bringing WVU in and having conference officials talking about how much better WVU is than Missouri, I think it would be hard to argue legally that the loss of Missouri will do irreparable harm to the conference.
But again, I’m no lawyer.
I think the Kabuki theory is that other schools can ask but the SEC won't admit any interest until the school leaves its conference
Putting up a series of articles on the SEC’s network announcing that MU has joined the SEC while MU is still part of the Big 12 seems to pretty well destroy that charade.
They will be a member of tje B12
Until they are are a member of the SEC in July 2012/2013. That’s what conditional withdrawal is.
There will be no point where Mizzou is not a member of a conference, just as with A&M, TCU, WVU…
Yes it’s a charade. But like all charades it is basically meaningless. Who gives a damm?
I think the theory is that it has meaning under the law
The law requires at least a charade so the SEC was producing a charade. Until last night.
And although the curators authorized a conditional withdrawal, MU never carried it out. They’re still full members of the conference.
Devil's advocate...
How do we know that Mizzou didn’t execute the conditional withdrawl? Because that’s what they said in public? Do you believe everything you hear in this day and age? Why did the B12 act so quickly on WVU immediately after monday’s meeting? Unlikely, but still food for thought….
Well, MU didn't announce it and the Big 12 affirmatively declared that MU hadn't
That seems like it closes off all reason to believe that MU actually carried out the withdrawal.
Like I said...
unlikely, but would anyone really be surprised at this point?
And, see my post below from the B12 office. They expect Mizzou gone by next year as well. How do they plan to stop them from leaving now?
That announcement is perhaps the strangest development of the week
I’d love to know how they think they’re going to get WVU out of the hands of a desperate conference for next year.
Do you really need to ask that question?
What Texas wants, Texas gets. And with the deapest pockets in the nation, they will get what they want again.
Would the Big East automatically lose BCS status if WVU leaves?
It seems like it would take a tremendous amount of money to compensate for that.
I'm inclined to believe that the Big East will not lose AQ status.
I’m sure it will cost some penny, but it also seems that there will be way more to come out in the next few days (if not hours). Plus, you can’t just lose AQ status overnight, there are bowl obligations to fill for at least the next year, and I’m sure the Big East can patch something together to get by in the interim.
I thought that there were requirements for size and ranked teams
If Syracuse, Pitt and WVU are all gone, the Big East is down to 5 teams, none of them ranked.
I was thinking I read somewhere
that AQ status was guaranteed for some period of time, or they have a grace period to get up to the required #. And that AQ status was only guaranteed til 2013 or 2014 anyway.
by IHatedHarpos on Oct 28, 2011 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions
So basically, it's pick up Boise or bust?
That’s the only ranked team available, right?
Rankings don't come into it
Unless you are the champ of a Non AQ conference and ranked in the top 16 above a BC conference champ. And even then, the AQ conference still gets its bid.
Big East
has a number of expansion candidates, Boise was the only ranked one I remember. And the grace period is like 2 years or something. I’m hoping someone less lazy will find it.
by IHatedHarpos on Oct 28, 2011 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm apparently trying to get a Big East chant going.
Was trying to say that they have a grace period of a couple years to get to the AQ minimum number.
by IHatedHarpos on Oct 28, 2011 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions
Or what?
The SEC doesn’t invite teams. The leak proves Mizzou and the SEC have contact, not that they have an agreement. And even if you want to hold to the fact that this proves they have a binding agreement before withdrawing from the Big 12, I’m pretty sure that further down the rabbit hole of implied actions is that the Big 12 has been negotiating with Mizzou about exit fees, which means they don’t have a lot of recourse about being “raided” considering the steps taken.
That was a very long sentence.
by Transmogrified Tiger on Oct 28, 2011 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions
I didn't quite follow
But all I’m saying is that the SEC seems to go to great lengths not to admit interest in any team until that team has withdrawn from its conference, and here, by announcing MU as a new member of the SEC before MU has withdrawn from the Big 12, they seem to have put that effort to waste.
My original speculation was that the SEC might end up footing the bill for MU’s exit fee, which I’d think you guys would view as a positive.
If the B12 didn't have an immediate replacement in WVU
I think this leak would be a bigger deal. It wouldn’t surprise me if most of the people in these rooms are ready for this whole shifting to be done and while the leak throws a wrench into the process, and egg on the face of the SEC, I think the process has worked out to the point where this moment of stupidity can’t derail the final move.
Yeah, this WVU news seems to change the story
Although I don’t understand why WVU thinks the 27 month period won’t apply to it.
Sure, it's a goof on the SEC's part
but my point is that I don’t think there’s any legal repercussions considering where we are in the process. Mizzou has said they’re looking around and had contact with the SEC. The SEC’s leak isn’t proof of a binding agreement or an invitation extended by them. So from a legal perspective, it doesn’t add any new information. Maybe if that came out before Deaton said “we’re exploring conference options” the Big 12 could make a claim, but that’s not the case.
The run-on sentence is saying that if you can somehow use that leak as proof of some implied, binding agreement, I doubt that it would make a difference. If we’re to assume that Mizzou and the SEC have brokered a deal based on that leak, then by similar rumors(and Mizzou would certainly know for sure) we can assume that Mizzou is negotiating their exit from the conference(which would weaken the Big 12’s claim).
by Transmogrified Tiger on Oct 28, 2011 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm not a lawyer, but I don't think interference requires an implied, binding agreement
Certainly in the world of sports, teams get in trouble for a lot less than that when it comes to players under contract to other teams.
In a show of solidarity with our new SEC friends
http://simmonsfield.blogspot.com/2011/10/9-things-to-like-about-big-ten-baseball.html
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http://www.SimmonsField.com
WVU to the big 12 has been confirmed by the Big East
twitter handle: @asstastic_o1
Okra and Brussel Sprouts will forever be my sworn enemy!
by BillSelfsToupee on Oct 28, 2011 9:36 AM CDT reply actions
Who is Chris Dortch?
And how does he think Quinn Snyder did “a really good job”?
This is what passes for basketball analysis in the SEC?
We don't care about squeeky bouncey hoops.
We like real sports.
by SEC Supremacist on Oct 28, 2011 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
i lol'd at squeeky bouncey hoops
rec’d
twitter handle: @asstastic_o1
Okra and Brussel Sprouts will forever be my sworn enemy!
by BillSelfsToupee on Oct 28, 2011 9:48 AM CDT up reply actions
The last time my team was any good was 1987
When Charles Barkley left.
by SEC Supremacist on Oct 28, 2011 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions
oooooh the round mound of rebound.
sorry that was turrible
"The power of the force has stopped you, you hosers."
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131_Zone Lance Lane by GabeDeArmond
@GabeDeArmond RT @CecilHurt: That’s probably the last time the SEC gives a contract to Les Miles Web Vending. #ClockManagement
by Gaknar on Oct 28, 2011 10:21 AM CDT reply actions 5 recs
So much for 27 months
@patricksouthern: #WVU’s press release confirms it will begin membership in the Big 12 on July 1, 2012.
by asdtg2 on Oct 28, 2011 10:49 AM CDT reply actions 2 recs
please pardon the following nerddom
WOOT! HUZZAH! AND HARUMPH!
by SEC Supremacist on Oct 28, 2011 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions
Big East is saying theyre holding WV to the 27 months
twitter handle: @asstastic_o1
Okra and Brussel Sprouts will forever be my sworn enemy!
by BillSelfsToupee on Oct 28, 2011 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions
Regardless,
The B12’s case against Mizzou has been shot to pieces by this. They can’t actively pursue legal action against Mizzou with one hand, while they are actively trying to steal WVU from the BEast with the other hand.
Also, the explicitely stated in the release that Mizzou is not in their plans for next year. What if Mizzou claims legal action against the B12 now, saying they are jeopardizing their revenue as well? (I realize that they are going SEC, but the way it is writte on paper, the B12 looks like they are cutting Mizzou out of the picture themselves).
Lawsuits imminent
Blair Kerkhoff
Big East says it will hold West Virginia to 27-month notice. WVa. says it will join Big 12 says next year http://bit.ly/ss1xD3 #kcsports
Lawsuits eh?
That ain’t nothin’ but a thang.
-Texa$
by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Oct 28, 2011 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions
Also from the Big12 conference release...
Beginning with the 2012-13 season it is expected that the Big 12 Conference will be comprised of 10 Universities – Baylor, Iowa State, Kansas, Kansas State, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, TCU, Texas, Texas Tech and West Virginia.
And that's from the Big12 office direct.
Any egg on the SEC’s face has been swiftly wiped off with that statement from the B12.
Les Miles web reps strike again!
twitter handle: @asstastic_o1
Okra and Brussel Sprouts will forever be my sworn enemy!
by BillSelfsToupee on Oct 28, 2011 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions
In an alternate universe
An unnamed Big East official was ecstatic at the thought of adding Missouri to the conference. “Missouri has better academics than West Virginia, they have a larger population than West Virginia, a better recruiting base than West Virginia, better media markets than West Virginia. I’m pretty sure that if those two teams had played in the 2008 National Championship, Missouri would have kicked West Virginia’s ass.”
by Gaknar on Oct 28, 2011 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
rec'd
but that was in 2007 (I realize the game would have been played in 08)
by jschooltiger on Oct 28, 2011 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions
I can never remember how it's supposed to be numbered
The Cotton Bowl is listed as the 2008 Cotton Bowl, so that was my thinking.
Wait
so they divorced us before its even official? I think this means we shouldn’t have to pay any exit fees, because they just left us out in the cold with no where to go, and the benevolent SEC may pick us up because we don’t have a home. It wasn’t our choice. They just said we can’t play with them next year. Shocking and totally new information to us. Right? Right??? :)
by DC_Tiger on Oct 28, 2011 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
DING DING DING!!
Thank you B12 for making this soooo much easier to leave now. Nienas FTW!
Goodbye $25M exit fee and lame duck year, hello NU/CU sweetheart deal.
I think we gave them notice today.
Won’t see that until there is a Mizzou release.
The sleeper has awoken. . .awakened. . .he woke up.
by SleepyFloyd7 on Oct 28, 2011 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions
Help us SEC Conference, you're our only hope!
I’m known as a bit of a dreamer!
by MizzouRah04 on Oct 28, 2011 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
oh lord, don't get the SW meme going again.
/Covers Ears
#TakeTheCannonOnTheRoad to Arrowhead
Blow Lowrentz to heck
by Spider_Monkey on Oct 28, 2011 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Hello
Beginning with the 2012-13 season it is expected that the Big 12 Conference will be comprised of 10 Universities – Baylor, Iowa State, Kansas, Kansas State, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, TCU, Texas, Texas Tech and West Virginia. The Big 12’s footprint will encompass five states with over 36 million people. More than 4,100 student-athletes from across the United States and around the World compete annually in the 23 sports sponsored by the Conference.
by MizKC on Oct 28, 2011 10:56 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
it will take time to develop
Advocating for the "Spreadbone" since 2010
Rock M Nation
by The Beef on Oct 28, 2011 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
gotta set up our blocks.
well, blimey.
by threadkiller on Oct 28, 2011 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions
aw now we have to fire Yost and Alden for keeping Yost and screwing everything up.
"The power of the force has stopped you, you hosers."
We have a walk-on fullback
does that count?
by jschooltiger on Oct 28, 2011 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions
only if you pay him.
#TakeTheCannonOnTheRoad to Arrowhead
Blow Lowrentz to heck
by Spider_Monkey on Oct 28, 2011 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
You can have a fullback in the spread option.
See Auburn last year.
by SEC Supremacist on Oct 28, 2011 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions
Hmmm ...
spread option team heading to the SEC … ALL HAIL THE FLEXBONE!!!!
http://www.rockmnation.com/2010/4/1/1396990/why-the-flexbone-would-work-for
by jschooltiger on Oct 28, 2011 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Mizzou to withdraw by the end of the day
Book it. Done.
by SEC Supremacist on Oct 28, 2011 11:05 AM CDT reply actions
Again,
I think the university did withdraw already, we just haven’t seen a press release yet.
Big12 will let Mizzou handle that part of the information leakage.
The sleeper has awoken. . .awakened. . .he woke up.
by SleepyFloyd7 on Oct 28, 2011 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions
You are correct sir.
Updates are fun! My money is that they’re working on correct verbage.
by SEC Supremacist on Oct 28, 2011 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions
good luck collecting that beer from 2396. He's a slippery one.
Especially when he’s running a triathalon.
#TakeTheCannonOnTheRoad to Arrowhead
Blow Lowrentz to heck
by Spider_Monkey on Oct 28, 2011 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions
I'll get it at the first SEC game in Columbia
/prays for an Auburn visit.
by SEC Supremacist on Oct 28, 2011 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions
Let me amend
I don’t give two furry flying craps what sport it is. Women’s equestrian team? got it, I’m there.
by SEC Supremacist on Oct 28, 2011 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions
then it is agreed
the 1st women’s equestrian event sponsored by the SEC shall be where you receive your beer.
Busting Bill C since September 19, 2011 10:19 CST, 8:19 PDT.
"It's none of the old tricks you shuld've been watching for Joe"
"...I'm not trying to act giddy but the guy is a stud.'' - Terry McDonough, Director of Player Personnel, Jacksonville Jaguars
The REAL winners in all of this realignment crap are....
the law school professors who have just gotten another 20 years of teaching material and case studies on ineptitude.
new thread!!!!
twitter handle: @asstastic_o1
Okra and Brussel Sprouts will forever be my sworn enemy!
by BillSelfsToupee on Oct 28, 2011 11:07 AM CDT reply actions
This is awesome
Gabe DeArmond
From what I hear, #Mizzou has millions in donations waiting upon the move being official. Stadium upgrades in the not distant future.
twitter handle: @asstastic_o1
Okra and Brussel Sprouts will forever be my sworn enemy!
by BillSelfsToupee on Oct 28, 2011 11:15 AM CDT reply actions
Ha, it's kinda fun to see some of the L'ville vs WVU hate over the B12 offer.
Good story about L’ville losing out on B12
Every member of the Big 12 will immediately realize they made a huge mistake by inviting WVU when they each make their first road game to that god forsaken hole known as Morgantown. There is a reason no one travels to Morgantown. You inbred hillbillies are the most vulgar fan base in college football. WVU fans beat up opposing fans, throw objects (batteries, nickels, pennies, etc.), curse wives and children. There is a reason ACC slammed the door when you whores knocked. The SEC slammed it in your face just as quick. To add insult to injury, the SEC said they wouldn’t admit WVU because of their poor academics! SEC worried about academics! Wow! Interesting how WVU’s coach told the whole country in a press conference a couple weeks ago that WVU’s fan base wasn’t elite and didn’t know what big time football was.
#TakeTheCannonOnTheRoad to Arrowhead
Blow Lowrentz to heck
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