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Kansas State Beats Missouri: Links And Reflections

This is what happens. When you fall to 2-3, even if all three losses have been competitive road losses to Top 20 teams, the negativity begins to seep in. Words like "woes" and "reeling" and "slump" start to pop up in headlines. And not only do you have to chase .500 for a little while, you have to do so with a lot more angst and frustration. Some teams turn things around -- Texas A&M lost to three Top 20 teams and started 3-3 last year, then rebounded ... and they looked much worse in their three losses -- and some do not. Missouri has shown plenty of promise in each of its three losses, but at some point, promise indeed has to turn into wins. To say the least, we will see what this team is made of in the coming weeks.

Recaps

MUtigers.com: Tigers Fall Short Against No. 20 Wildcats, 24-17
MUtigers.com: Post Game Notes
The Trib: SEC least of MU's worries after loss at K-State
The Missourian: Bad habits exacerbated in Missouri football loss to Kansas State
KC Star: MU takes step back in 24-17 loss to K-State
KC Star: In most complete game of season, K-State beats Missouri 24-17
PowerMizzou: Tigers fall flat at K-State
PowerMizzou: Sunday Grade Card
Post-Dispatch: Kansas State holds off Mizzou
Post-Dispatch: Late rally falls short for Tigers

Multimedia

PowerMizzou: PMTV-HD: Luke Lambert
PowerMizzou: PMTV-HD: Coach's Corner

The Bright Side

The Missourian: Missouri defense unable to stop Kansas State running game

I cannot possibly disagree with the headline of the above Missourian link. My goodness, it's hard to imagine the Missouri defense doing a better job overall. Collin Klein averaged 2.2 yards per carry and 5.5 yards per pass. Running back John Hubert averaged a healthy but unspectacular 4.8 yards per carry and really only saw sustained success on one drive -- he had eight carries for 43 yards in the drive that put KSU up 17-3, but Mizzou even had that drive until one of the dumbest roughing the kicker penalties of all-time. They forced KSU to make some plays (and at times, they did), and they held KSU to 4.2 yards per play overall. One of KSU's touchdown drives was 21 yards in length, and another was 42 yards after the aforementioned stupid penalty. Mizzou's mistakes killed them, but when they weren't making outright stupid mistakes, they were severely limiting KSU's capabilities.

Hey, speaking of which...

Mistakes, Mistakes, Mistakes

The Trib: Slumping Missouri doesn't have the talent to cover for its mistakes
KBIA Sports Extra: No excuses for the Mizzou after loss to Kansas State

Three procedure penalties inside the 10 (one false start on the offense, two offsides on the defense).

A stare-down-and-throw-into-double-coverage interception.

Dan Hoch's left foot sacking James Franklin.

Two more missed field goals.

Letting a punt bounce into the end zone even though two guys have a chance to down it inside the 5.

One amazingly stupid roughing penalty.

A personal foul penalty that gave KSU a first down and effectively ended the game.

Star-divide

Maybe in 2009, you could still beat Kansas State making these ridiculous mistakes. And lord knows, Mizzou came pretty close anyway. But KSU has improved just enough in 2011 to seal the deal if you let them.

What was perhaps most disconcerting was how many of the mistakes were made by seniors. Dominique Hamilton committed the game-ending penalty. Austin Wuebbels committed the false start and missed a couple of key blocks (he was not alone in that regard). Terrell Resonno also jumped offsides. Grant Ressel missed the two field goals (we'll come back to him).

Now, there were seniors who certainly played well. Jacquies Smith had three tackles for loss (and, admittedly, one of the offsides penalties). Luke Lambert had two more. Michael Egnew and Jerrell Jackson were targeted 16 times and caught 13 passes for 145 yards. (Everybody else: an egregious 6-for-19 for 69 yards.) Egnew and Jackson were very instrumental in Mizzou's comeback, which was encouraging after their awful performances in Norman. But their improvement was not enough to make up for everybody else's mistakes.

(It's a shame, really: Mizzou's performance versus Oklahoma would probably have been good enough to beat K-State. Flip those two games -- play worse and get blown out against Oklahoma, play better and beat Kansas State -- would have Mizzou in better shape.)

What To Do About Ressel

Post-Dispatch: Ressel's woes continue

His 48-yarder could have beaten Arizona State. His two 46-yarders could have completely redefined the fourth quarter of the Oklahoma game. His 43- and 37-yarder could have given Mizzou a chance to tie in the fourth quarter against Kansas State. He is still 6-for-7 on field goals under 40 yards, but ... the difference between the Grant Ressel we expected to get and the one we currently have could be the difference between 2-3 and 4-1. It's not like Mizzou has another strong kicker waiting in the wings (few teams have more than one), so we will continue to hope Ressel pulls it together. But wow, is it a helpless feeling watching him continue to try and come up short.

More thoughts during the upcoming BTBS post...

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HA HA

I was thinking of posting like this last night!

by kctiger80 on Oct 9, 2011 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

I posted this a couple of times yesterday

But I think (hope?) coming home and playing in front of a real home crowd for the first time since Week 1 will help turn things around. The schedule was not kind to start and KSU turning out to be a total 180 from what was expected made it even worse. Make a list of the teams who WOULDN’T be 2-3 with our schedule and I bet it’s not too long.

Let’s let our boys finish out with only 2 more road games out of 7 and see what happens on the back half.

by shaffe on Oct 9, 2011 12:07 PM CDT reply actions  

Yes, that's what I was referring to...

I’m talking about how they played yesterday. They ran the ball, they didn’t make mistakes, they played solid D, they controlled the clock.

by CapnCribbs on Oct 9, 2011 5:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

This is also what I expected

after reading Bill’s preview :)

Glory glory Man United, AND the other MU, AAAAnd the Leafs. Experiencing cheering whiplash for decades..

by Wan Ihite on Oct 9, 2011 5:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

KSU being a much better team than we expected is what I was referring to

Perhaps a bit unclear, but the one winnable road game of this tough opening stretch turned out to be far more difficult than we had hoped or anticipated.

by shaffe on Oct 9, 2011 10:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

man we really needed this win.

but the good news is aTm looks more beatable

"If I ever saw an amputee getting hanged, I'd probably just start calling out letters" - Demetri Martin
"Eggs this guys overdone, then I hit the slope on them call it rise over run"- Chiddy
O I\1 E M I Z Z O U

by pinkelposse on Oct 9, 2011 2:21 PM CDT reply actions  

but the troublesome thing is

every game looks loseable now save the ku game. that’s disconcerting.

"I font think you read MU post." - ravings of a 5HE deprived man

by threadkiller on Oct 9, 2011 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yep

Remember the Good ol’ Days when we were worried about which bowl Mizzou “deserved” to attend? Now I just hope the Bronx is nice in January.

A man said to the universe: "Sir I exist!" "However," replied the universe,
"The fact has not created in me a sense of obligation."
--Stephen Crane

by blackfin on Oct 9, 2011 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Really, though...

…if this does end up being our last year in the B12, I’d love to do the Gotham Bowl once…not really sure why. Just a cool environment that would allow me to write 13 posts about Mizzou’s 1930s trips to play NYU, I guess.

by Bill C. on Oct 9, 2011 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Don't worry in 6 years when the big 12 breaks up and we don't have a home anymore

We will have plenty of oppurtunities to play there as part of the big east.

Annoying You Since 1986

by MUTIGERS86 on Oct 9, 2011 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

love

that passes are called “forwards”

Glory glory Man United, AND the other MU, AAAAnd the Leafs. Experiencing cheering whiplash for decades..

by Wan Ihite on Oct 9, 2011 5:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

I kind of feel sorry for Dan Beebe after reading that article in ESPN about him.

But I will not be a hypocrite as I was one of the ones calling for his head at one point. Tough to be on top and in charge of a weeble wobble conf.

by McZou on Oct 9, 2011 3:12 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

yeah, though he was bought out, so at least he got a bunch of money on the way out the door, which is at least a step better than “you have 10 minutes to clear your things out of your desk.”

Glory glory Man United, AND the other MU, AAAAnd the Leafs. Experiencing cheering whiplash for decades..

by Wan Ihite on Oct 9, 2011 6:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Everyone pause for a second.

I understand the timing of the games are very different. But lets look back at Chase Daniel’s sophmore season. We lost to a tough team on the road in a close one that we should have won (A&M), lost to Oklahoma at home in a respectable game, and got upset on the road against a mediocre Iowa State team. What if the order of the games was reversed and Mizzou started that season 2-3? And those were the only games you had to judge Chase on at the time? Everyone needs to take a step away from the ledge and realized that we have started out with about the most unfriendly schedule for a new quarterback imaginable and he has had 3 great games, and 2 bad ones. It’s going to happen. Remember that our two best players are true sophmores and things will only improve from here.

Annoying You Since 1986

by MUTIGERS86 on Oct 9, 2011 3:47 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Except

I don’t think anyone really has a problem with Franklin, or how he played yesterday.

The frustration comes from needless, stupid mistakes and ill discipline by players who really should know better.

by MizKC on Oct 9, 2011 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed

Franklin played like a first year starter yesterday, which we thought he’d do. But we also thought we would have a solid D and run game this year to help carry him.

by jschooltiger on Oct 9, 2011 5:21 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

this

he even played like a pretty good first year starter. He wasn’t what went wrong.

I mean the general point is still valid, this team had a bunch of its toughest games already, things could conceivably get quite a bit better from here. It’s not like we’re 2 and 3 and resigned that we don’t stand a chance the rest of the season. But it’s certainly a little sobering.

Glory glory Man United, AND the other MU, AAAAnd the Leafs. Experiencing cheering whiplash for decades..

by Wan Ihite on Oct 9, 2011 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Egnew and Moe are true sophomores?

;-)

Roman noddles: What a 2396 lunatic wants for dinner.
Roll Tire, tTSTC since 8/11. Don't tread on me.

by Spider_Monkey on Oct 10, 2011 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

How was the radio broadcast yesterday?

The sleeper has awoken. . .awakened. . .he woke up.

by SleepyFloyd7 on Oct 9, 2011 5:54 PM CDT reply actions  

you can say that again

It was a fun experience.

The sleeper has awoken. . .awakened. . .he woke up.

by SleepyFloyd7 on Oct 9, 2011 6:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Care to elaborate?

Haven’t listened to the broadcast team yet this year?

by jbecking on Oct 9, 2011 8:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

I was a last-minute call up to be his spotter.

I had never done that before, but it was fun.

The sleeper has awoken. . .awakened. . .he woke up.

by SleepyFloyd7 on Oct 9, 2011 10:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks.

Figured that out eventually. My mind is mud from reading other sites tonight.

by jbecking on Oct 9, 2011 10:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

your name was mentioned on air

thought that was cool

I am the racoon that has been living in your attic for a week

by Mizzoufarmer on Oct 9, 2011 9:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

SEC here we come

Mizzou may not win many games but check out our 2 big tv markets.

Hell, I can get you a toe by 3 o'clock this afternoon... with nail polish. These amateurs...

by Wasr 10 on Oct 9, 2011 9:43 PM CDT reply actions  

meh.

what does this mean?

"I font think you read MU post." - ravings of a 5HE deprived man

by threadkiller on Oct 9, 2011 9:52 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

I think it's meant to be ironic

Glory glory Man United, AND the other MU, AAAAnd the Leafs. Experiencing cheering whiplash for decades..

by Wan Ihite on Oct 10, 2011 5:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

Just a grumbling disappointed MU fan

The only reason the SEC wants MU is because Missouri has 2 of the top 30 televisions markets in the country (KC and STL). The football team has been good in recent years but MU doesn’t have a historical program that fits the SEC football. We are going to be the Vanderbilt of the west….in football. But when basketball rolls around we are going to stick our high top up some SEC west ass! (this all if we join which I think is a lock)

Hell, I can get you a toe by 3 o'clock this afternoon... with nail polish. These amateurs...

by Wasr 10 on Oct 9, 2011 10:06 PM CDT reply actions  

I think you're selling Mizzou short.

We’re better than A&M.

"When among evil companions, try to fit in." - Wild Bill Donovan

by Kpz1234 on Oct 9, 2011 11:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

A&M is the greatest team of all time. And when I say all time, I’m including the future.

Always bet on Black and Gold!

by Wesley Stripes on Oct 10, 2011 12:04 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

well come on, nobody ever claimed they were the BEST of all time

… most talented, yes, but sometimes they lose games through lack of effort or mistakes.

Glory glory Man United, AND the other MU, AAAAnd the Leafs. Experiencing cheering whiplash for decades..

by Wan Ihite on Oct 10, 2011 5:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

A&M might be pretty good if someone would tell them there is a 1st and a 2nd half.

Hell, I can get you a toe by 3 o'clock this afternoon... with nail polish. These amateurs...

by Wasr 10 on Oct 10, 2011 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

.

Every game from here on out is losable, but I also think Mizzou is talented enough to finish with a respectable record. oSu is probably a loss at this point, but Texas and A&M are talented but chronically underachieving teams. If Mizzou can catch Texas at the right time, I think that game can be won if Mizzou plays perfectly. COTG will probably punish me for this, but I’m not remotely afraid of A&M. Not because I don’t think they can win (they can) but because they are so good at finding ways to lose. Iowa State has always been plucky but I think we can pull that win off as well as a win over Tech. I’m not even going to bother commenting on Kansas.

by Gaknar on Oct 10, 2011 3:31 PM CDT reply actions  

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