Mizzou Beats Texas: Links And Reflections
by Bill C. on Nov 13, 2011 12:05 PM CST
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Give Me Scenario No. 2
It was not pretty, and it came with its share of bad injury news, but yesterday's win was simply huge for this team.
Scenario No. 1: Missouri loses and falls to 4-6, needing to beat both Texas Tech and Kansas without Henry Josey to reach bowl eligibility. The "awful season" narrative continues.
Scenario No. 2: Missouri wins and stabilizes at 5-5. Now they not only have to win just one of the next two games (both of which they will be favored to win by double-digits), but they also have a chance to finish the season on a four-game win streak (Texas, Tech, Kansas, bowl) and go 8-5 in their quarterback's first year as starter, just like they did with Chase Daniel in 2006 (next two seasons: 22-6) and Blaine Gabbert (next season: 10-3).
An 8-5 record this season, with this schedule and these injuries, would be quite an accomplishment; and while things could certainly still fall apart, yesterday's win enabled Mizzou to think bigger. That's a very good thing.
Links:
MUtigers.com: Tigers Shock No. 21 Longhorns, 17-5
MUtigers.com: Mizzou/Texas Post-Game Notes
MUtigers.com: Mizzou/Texas Post-Game Quotes
The Trib: Pinkel, Tigers finally take down Longhorns
The Missourian: Missouri's defense overwhelms Texas in 17-5 win
KC Star: Mizzou says goodbye to Texas with 17-5 win
Post-Dispatch: Mizzou beats No. 21 Texas 17-5
PowerMizzou: Tigers shut down Horns
PowerMizzou: Sunday Grade Card
Austin American-Statesman: Texas falls to Missouri, 17-5
Austin American-Statesman: Suddenly, Horns looking up from below
Austin American-Statesman: Texas vs. Missouri: Five questions answered
Burnt Orange Nation: Texas Gets Trucked By Mizzou - Loses 17-5
Burnt Orange Nation: Game Review: Texas Stumbles to 17-5 Loss at Missouri
Multimedia:
PowerMizzou: PMTV-HD: Pinkel post-game
PowerMizzou: PMTV-HD: Jacquies Smith
PowerMizzou: The Sideline View
The Missourian: PHOTO GALLERY: Longhorns come up short against Tigers 17-5
The Missourian: PHOTO GALLERY: Missouri, Texas fans enjoy pregame activities
Costly Stinger
From the Trib article below:
Meeting with reporters last week, Missouri offensive coordinator David Yost promised to unveil a new plan to cure the Tigers’ third-quarter struggles. MU had gone scoreless in the third quarter in all four of its conference losses.
"I won’t tell you what the plan is," Yost said, "but we have a plan for the third quarter."
Indeed they did. Taking over on the Texas 15-yard line on the second half’s second series, the Tigers went right into their hurry-up offense. Quarterback James Franklin operated exclusively out of empty backfield formations with five receivers split wide — but with a twist. Instead of fifth receiver Brandon Gerau, the Tigers kept tailback Henry Josey in the game. That way, receiver T.J. Moe later explained, the Tigers could put Josey in motion and try a running play depending on the defense’s alignment.
The Tigers picked up two first downs early in the drive, but the strategy stalled when Franklin was drilled by blitzing Vaccaro on a 20-yard completion to Kendial Lawrence. Lawrence fell to a knee and needed a few minutes to get up before heading to the sideline. Franklin said his head hit the turf and suffered a neck stinger that bothered him the rest of the game. Jimmy Costello replaced him for a play, but Franklin returned and played the rest of the game, completing only 4 of 9 passes for 26 yards.
Mizzou Offense Before Franklin's Stinger: 37 plays, 306 yards (8.3 per play), 14 points
Mizzou Offense After Franklin's Stinger: 34 plays, 48 yards (1.4), 3 points (on a minus-1-yard drive)
After doing a wonderful job in the first half, Mizzou's offensive line got manhandled a bit by the UT defensive line as the game progressed. UT's goalline stand after the blocked punt that Mizzou recovered at about the one-inch line was the most stark example of this, obviously; but apparently there were other issues at play here. Franklin looked okay, but one can see how a neck stinger would affect one's ability to make reads, run, pass, and ... well, do everything but breathe, basically. Kudos to Franklin for sticking it out, but I guess it's a good thing Mizzou didn't need points.
Links:
The Trib: GAME NOTES: Missouri 17, Texas 5
Beating Texas Is Fun
Because of the injuries to Josey and Fozzy Whittaker, the atmosphere was more somber than one would have anticipated. Plus, this certainly wasn't a full-speed Texas team. Oh well. It was really nice for Gary Pinkel to get one last monkey off of his back, beating Mack Brown and Texas in his final opportunity to do so.
We could go into the symbolism of this win -- beating the 'Horns to finish off "F*** Texas" Week (after beginning it by moving to the SEC), etc. -- but really, it was just nice to win, period, no matter the opponent. That said ... it was a bit nicer beating the team whose beat writers include Chip Brown. From the Orangebloods article below:
Kenny Vaccaro was everywhere and should have been credited with the play of the game that might have helped turn the momentum when he rocked Mizzou's De'Vion Moore with a clean hit for a 3-yard loss on third-and-3 midway through the second quarter.
Instead, it was flagged for a personal foul for contact above the shoulders. Replays showed Vaccaro's helmet went into Moore's right shoulder. The next play, Mizzou's Kendial Lawrence ran 35 yards for a touchdown, and a 14-3 MU lead.
Look. If you want to complain about the rule, fine. I thought it was a dicey call when it happened, but while this was not a flagrant, intentional helmet-to-helmet hit, De'Vion Moore's right shoulder is not located inside his helmet.
Again, complain about the rule if you want, but don't pretend as if there was no helmet-to-helmet contact. It was minimal (and it backed up my point that they should have a five-yard "incidental contact" penalty to go with the 15-yard personal foul), but it existed, and pretending it didn't makes you a ridiculous homer.
Missouri RB Henry Josey also left the game in the third quarter with a left knee injury and appears to be out for the rest of the season with a ruptured tendon, according to the Kansas City Star. Will Muschamp had complained about the turf at Mizzou two years ago. That turf will not be missed by the Big 12.
Yes, because this turf has a long history of causing knee injuries. Oh wait, what was that? It doesn't? You mean both injuries were almost certainly caused by coincidence and random circumstance and not some sadistic turf waiting to gobble up SEC ACLs too? And that it was raining a bit two years ago when Texas came to town? My bad.
(That goes for the Texas folks who complained to me about the turf on Twitter last night as well.)
(And for the record, the turf is getting a bit tired and is supposedly going to get refreshed a bit this offseason. But "tired turf" is not, to my knowledge, any more likely to cause the types of injuries we saw on Saturday. Otherwise there would have been quite a few of them this year, no?)
Links:
Orangebloods: Good, Bad & Ugly: Post-game from Columbia, Mo.
The Trib: Missouri says a quiet goodbye to Texas
The Trib: Texas game plan goes awry in humbling defeat to Missouri
Post-Dispatch: Win over Texas gives Mizzou fans vindication
Fox Sports MW: After decade-long drought, Tigers beat Longhorns
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Great stuff, Bill
The arrogance of Texas continues to amaze. So long, Bevo…we sent ourselves off properly.
by CBonerfied on Nov 13, 2011 12:14 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
I like my Bevo steak well done
and it was delicioso.
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i'm surprised they don't blame the turf for the terrible mechanics of Ash
and McCoy.
fuck off, Texas. you are a disease.
by nickpapagiorgio on Nov 13, 2011 12:18 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
it was the turf
It was the wind. It was the injuries before the game. It was Marcell Da…oops (wrong whine). At any rate, the mighty Texas Longhorns would win national championships each year of not for these factors.
by JC-Mizzou on Nov 13, 2011 5:14 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
Yeah, it's too bad that Texas is the only one who had to deal with the turf or the wind
and doubly bad luck that they didn’t win the toss so they could pick the most advantageous scenario regarding the wind.
Oh, wait.
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Blame the turf?
Sounds like a certain Colorado coach about 20 years ago on their actual loss/“official” win.
by tigerdog9396 on Nov 13, 2011 12:36 PM CST via iPhone app reply actions
I don't know the source...
but I did read a some time ago that the incidents of knee injuries on Field/Omni Turf (what Mizzou and thousands of other schools have) is at or near the level of natural grass, but still below that of the old Astro Turf.
We all know, and the player fully accept, that football is by definition a violent game. Injuries like this happen. Blaming the field is a cheap way out.
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I think the helmet-to-helmet call was a bad one
and said so at the time.
Vaccaro squared up, kept his own helmet up (didn’t lead with the crown of the helmet), and made a picture perfect tackle.
The only reason there was any helmet-to-helmet contact was because Moore ducked his own head heading into the tackle. He should not be rewarded for doing so.
There was better reason to throw the flag on Moore for causing the helmet contact.
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Like I said, completely incidental.
But helmet hit helmet, and that’s how they’re calling it.
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I was making the same argument to Texas AND Mizzou fans sitting around me on the hill.
I thought it was a great tackle, and what I love about football. But technically … helmet hit helmet … so by the rules it had to be called.
I’m known as a bit of a dreamer!
technically a helmet hit
and helmet hits, we’re finding, seem to contribute to pretty bad brain damage down the line. Traditional football form is a wonderful thing, but if we’re maiming players and ending some of their lives early (which seems to be the case), then we need to find some safer and better way to tackle.
That's why I had a problem with that call and this rule
The defender didn’t do anything to cause the helmet contact, Moore ducked his head.
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I think we've been screwed enough in the past
that we deserve some calls like this. Just accept it how it is
If you don't have time to do it right, when will you have time to do it over?
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by lost..in the woods on Nov 13, 2011 5:24 PM CST up reply actions
You jump at people full speed, face to face, helmets are going to hit. And when helmets are hitting you build up a large number of shocks to the brain over the course of many games. And the new science that’s coming out says that this is absolutely terrible for brains, possibly worse than just one or two really big hits.
I know that’s what people were taught before, and that it was considered correct and clean, but given new information it turns out that it’s actually way more dangerous than we thought.
When new info comes out, sometimes you have to update your way of thinking. I’m sure there’s all kinds of ways of taking someone down when you run at them. From now on we’re just going to have to start teaching people to use some different ones than we used to.
I believe on some level
we’ll have to accept that playing football causes brain damage.
Limit it, mitigate it, but I don’t think it’ll ever go away.
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Well for sure. But step 1 in mitigation is “cut out things that cause sharp and sudden shocks to the head”. Such as, for instance, e.g., people smacking their helmets into each other at high speed. Take the plays where this is very likely to happen, and ban them. People will find other ways to play, they always do. You used to be able to horse collar people. Now you can’t. Life moves on.
It's impossible to cut them out totally
The brain floats in liquid, there’s no way to go in there and prevent it from smacking into the inside of the skull on certain sudden stops. The skull stops, the brain’s momentum carries it into the skull.
And there is nothing more the defender could do in this instance either, other than diving at Moore’s ankles or putting his head in a position that increases his own injury risk.
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I dont see why football helmets have to have a hard outer shell
It seems like something less rigid would absorb the shock better
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by Tysonthebison on Nov 14, 2011 3:12 AM CST up reply actions
The deposed JoePa,
when asked about how to reduce football injuries, proposed reducing padding and removing facemasks, I think.
Just look at Rugby. Full contact but you don’t see the same injuries. These guys in football get loaded up with gear and then don’t protect themselves and go try to kill someone.
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Playing both, and this will state the obvious...
The more protection you have, the more confident and reckless you get with your body. When I played football as an end, I would launch myself at people, go for big hits, and not worry much about anything besides knees. In rugby, it’s a whole different world. The tackling is different because the game is much longer and there are very few breaks, so big hits are uncommon. You can still light someone up. But the way the game is set up, everyone who gets the ball always faces the defense, so unawares hits are rare, unlike hits on running backs and wideouts, who turn their back to the defense quite a bit. The lack of protection also makes you form tackle compared to flying in with your shoulder. I loved both. I honestly think its the players fault for all of the nasty hits. You have a choice as a defender almost on every play how you are going to hit that guy. For most linebackers and secondary players, the big stick is much more effective because it hurts you less and is easier to do. But yeah. I don’t think football will ever get rid of the hard protection.
by MizzouRugby on Nov 14, 2011 9:22 AM CST via iPhone app up reply actions 1 recs
rec'd for a well explained vantage point. nicely done.
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by threadkiller on Nov 14, 2011 9:54 AM CST up reply actions
You can’t cut out head shots, no. But if helmet-helmet collisions cause really nasty ones – and they seem to – then you find other ways for people to tackle each other.
If you want to tell me that other ways don’t exist, that just shows a lack of creativity on your part. There are hundreds of ways to take a person down.
Agree completely. Football is a violent contact sport. I assume most of you have played football. Ever make a tackle and have a running back drive his knee into your helmet? I assure you, that’s a harder hit than helmet to helmet. This rule favors the running back and puts the tackler at more risk. Maybe they should make a rule that you can only tackle around the midsection and make it illegal for a runner to lean forward. Wait, I’ve got it, how about just touching him with both hands below the waist and he’s down.
or turf?
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by Spider_Monkey on Nov 14, 2011 12:01 PM CST up reply actions
I don't know about Moore ducking, but I agree that we got a break on that one
If Vaccaro went low, then he could be hurdled over. I feel bad for defensive players because of these rules.
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P.S.
Will Muschamp better make his peace with the turf. Going to be seeing it every other year!
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ha! Maybe he'll get to check out the turf in kansas where he might be coaching next.
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by Spider_Monkey on Nov 14, 2011 12:04 PM CST up reply actions
Usually manure is a good fertilizer
But the bullsh*t from Texas is soo toxic, we wll be forced to replace the turf with new
by McZou on Nov 13, 2011 1:07 PM CST via mobile reply actions
This week in "Dumb Things Overheard at Faurot Field" (seriously, I should start a Twitter feed):
(3rd & Goal for Mizzou, ball on Texas’ 2-yd line)
“Why aren’t we running it up the middle?”
(Mizzou lines up in an I-formation, Josey runs up the middle, is stuffed for no gain)
“You suck, Yost!”
???
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by Dutch Missourian on Nov 13, 2011 1:40 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
Similarly
Franklin tries to thread it to Egnew between two defenders: “Franklin, you suck, you can’t throw that!” two plays later: “Yost, you suck, why don’t we throw it to Egnew!”
by jschooltiger on Nov 13, 2011 2:08 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
This is one glaring offensive problem the staff needs to address by next season.
First and goal from the one, you need to be able to come away with a TD.
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Oh I concur.
But to criticize the offensive coordinator for calling the exact play one just asked for is just dumb. The offensive line didn’t get enough push and Josey didn’t break through the defenders. None of that is Yost’s fault.
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by Dutch Missourian on Nov 13, 2011 4:00 PM CST up reply actions
to be fair
our offensive line didn’t get a push at all..they got manhandled
If you don't have time to do it right, when will you have time to do it over?
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by lost..in the woods on Nov 13, 2011 5:26 PM CST up reply actions
To be fair, Texas may not have had a QB who could throw a whiffle ball into a black hole, but they do still have the best talent the entire state of Texas has to offer (aTm excepted naturally) on their lines. It was pretty upsetting we couldn’t get a push and score, but not unbelievably surprising.
It's not just TX, Mizzou has had difficulties with short yardage situations
for a long time. I was hoping for a quarterback sneak, or some play that didn’t lose yardage.
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A lot of the spread teams do
Oklahoma has been having trouble with it all season. And I think we all remember Mike Leach’s epic fails on 4th and 1.
GO GO FIGHTING METH AGGIES!
What worries me more than short yardage situations
is how bad Mizzou has been on 3rd downs since Chase left.
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Have Blackwell and West had sons yet? Time for some legacy big runners to come back to Mizzou.
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by Spider_Monkey on Nov 14, 2011 12:09 PM CST up reply actions
I totally agree.
And I had the same thought: “How are they going to blame Yost for this one?”
The bottom line is that this team just isn’t built to do the power running thing consistently.
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And the best thing is
We were able to do what Nubs couldn’t :)
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by Gaknar on Nov 13, 2011 1:50 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
engage in a coherent thought process?
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by threadkiller on Nov 13, 2011 2:26 PM CST up reply actions
Beat Texas, but yours works too
And we didn’t even have to send death threats to Dan Beebe.
GO GO FIGHTING METH AGGIES!
tebow stinks. the only thing he does is win games.
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by threadkiller on Nov 13, 2011 2:32 PM CST up reply actions
Tim Tebow was a great college PLAYER
He was a below average QUARTERBACK. He is an average NFL PLAYER. He is a gawd-awful NFL QUARTERBACK.
What do Tigers dream of when they take a little Tiger snooze? Do they dream of mauling Jayhawks, Or Todd Reesing in his sod helmet suit? Don’t you get in a self-loathing funk, We’re gonna start this party with a Lawrence Bowers dunk, And then we’re gonna find Kimmeh’s shot too, And bring a victory back to the Zou! Zou, Zou, oh back to the Zou! But if we keep shooting the three like we have been… Then we’re shit outta luck
by darklighter09 on Nov 13, 2011 5:12 PM CST up reply actions
i don't care. he's the best the broncos have.
1-4 before tebow, 3-1 after. even i can do that math. i’d rather have an awful qb and win, than have a box score stud and lose.
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by threadkiller on Nov 13, 2011 5:16 PM CST up reply actions
no, i'm a packers fan.
i just don’t think people (especially the so-called experts) are giving him enough time to prove himself. i saw bernie kosar have one of the ugliest deliveries i’ve ever seen, and still be one of the best qb’s in the league. coaching and time could be all he needs. or he may always be ugly and the league will figure him out, idk, but give the guy a chance. and if i were a broncos fan, you’d probably be the last person i’d admit it to. ;-)
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by threadkiller on Nov 13, 2011 5:38 PM CST up reply actions
It's not a secret what the Broncos are going to do...
yet… no one can stop him.
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Not taking anything away from the Donkeys...
But Tebow didn’t beat the Chiefs. The run game as a whole did. You plug ANY QB in that system with some decent legs and they win that game.
No, any QB with decent legs most likely gets smashed and knocked from the game.
There’s a good reason you never see teams running that option like the Broncs have going with Tebow.
i'd like to see faurot field get a natural grass surface.
not that i believe the turf is responsible for injuries, but it just seems like football should be played on grass. ole miss and arkansas are the only 2 current schools that have artificial turf, fwiw.
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I imagine weather plays a factor.
plus the upkeep for natural grass is way more expensive.
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true to both.
i just think it would be worth it.
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by threadkiller on Nov 13, 2011 2:45 PM CST up reply actions
Faurot had grass, I believe, sometime in the 90's.
I remember the old turf. Wow it was bad. I think the grass didn’t grow right or something, because they tore it back up and put turf back down.
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That's the south end of the stadium
Don’t know if it affected the grass or not – but it does affect stadium expansion.
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I miss the grass surface too, but the vast majority of college football teams now play on FieldTurf.
And the NFL is headed in that direction, too. At least it’s more visually appealing than AstroTurf.
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by Dutch Missourian on Nov 13, 2011 4:04 PM CST up reply actions
oh, no doubt.
this omni/field turf stuff is better than the old astro turf by far. i’ve even installed the new style turf before, and can say it’s very soft, too. trouble is, when it does start to wear, it’s nearly impossible to repair seamlessly, so people can see where it’s been repaired. not only that, it’s an incredibly hot surface in the warm months (though maybe not quite as bad as the old astro turf). and while you’re correct in that we’re seeing more and more fields with the artificial turf, the sec only has 2 teams that use it (possibly because of the heat factor).
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by threadkiller on Nov 13, 2011 5:11 PM CST up reply actions
Blaine Gabbert with a win today
(Yes it was against Indianapolis but they all count).
I'm just sick about Josey's injury.
I’ve never left Faurot Field more sad following a win in my life. So depressing. I hope he makes it back.
Watching him get carted off
Not even wave to anyone, with a look on his face as though he knew it was serious, was almost scary. Hopefully he will heal up not only for football but for the rest of his life because I’m sure his knee was shredded
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I thought the helmet-to-helmet was a bad call.
I understand why the referee made it — Moore’s head rocked back when he got hit — but I think it was a bad call, and changed the momentum of the game. I guess I don’t know what we should expect Vaccaro to do differently in that instance; it’s a good, hard form tackle. There is some minor helmet-to-helmet contact, but I think flagging it goes against the spirit of the rule, which is to keep defenseless players safe. I think it’s a case of “technically correct, practically incorrect.”
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that was definitely the tide turning play. especially considering we scored a long td on the very next play.
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by threadkiller on Nov 13, 2011 5:13 PM CST up reply actions
i believe he's vastly overrated.
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by threadkiller on Nov 14, 2011 8:43 AM CST up reply actions
wow, is Gus from Texas?
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by Spider_Monkey on Nov 14, 2011 12:16 PM CST up reply actions
I dont know if this has been discussed or not released yet...but is the Tech game going to be televised?
I fully expect it not to be but that would be nice.
by MIZfalconAviator on Nov 13, 2011 4:08 PM CST reply actions
According to mutigers.com, it's going to be on ABC.
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by Dutch Missourian on Nov 13, 2011 4:10 PM CST up reply actions
Comment of the day from Burnt Orange Nation-
“Backs out, had to resort to a passing game that has never been there all year. It says something about how shitty Missouri is that we only lost 17-5, I think. Also, our D was pretty damn good throughout.”
this is the money quote
I mean, arguing that your team sucks so as to apply transitive property of shittiness to team that just beat you. wow.
The contradiction was priceless.
’They’re really shitty but our defense only gave up 17 so that was really damn good.’
by jooooooooones! on Nov 14, 2011 10:26 AM CST up reply actions
Did I hear an S E C chant toward the end of the game?
Correct me if I’m wrong but I swear I heard it.
by dp2 on Nov 13, 2011 5:42 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Yeah, arrowhead doesn’t mean anything for SEC chants.
Leaving the B12 was largely a big “forget you” to Texas, so THAT is the appropriate place to rub in a win.
by Wan Ihite on Nov 13, 2011 6:59 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I really tried.
After Franklin ran for the first down, but I was drowned out by that damned first down chant.
So I yelled it at every person I saw wearing orange as we left the stadium.
by Sheriff Blalock on Nov 13, 2011 8:23 PM CST up reply actions
I did my best to greet every visiting fan I could and welcome them to Columbia and wish them a good time.
by M Krip on Nov 13, 2011 9:25 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
thanks
My wife loves it, my best game buddy hates it. I was especially embarrassed to see the signs along sidewalks reminding us to be courteous hosts but also on another note, I am glad our school realizes we could do more to help get this messege across to some in our fanbase.
Last night I read through all the comments on their live game threads for the two halves at BON.
It was incredibly pathetic to say the least. From the smirky confidence at the beginning to the full blown excuses and crying throughout the game with several “We’re Texas” quotes spread in here like they are calling on their destiny and entitlement to a win.
With the nasty demeanor, foul language, arrogance and pure delusional thinking, it really put it into perspective how good we have it here at RMN.
I definitely have to attribute that to the base crowd here who has been able to set a helluva good example on how it is to be a good fan of the team and the game.
the comments are music to my ears
Arrogant texans suffering a loss to missouri, and having to make up excuses versus acknowledge the fact that they arent gods gift to football.
Hopefully there will be some good Texas comments on roll bama roll’s meltdown thread this week, the Bammers love to highlight Texas rage.
by JC-Mizzou on Nov 13, 2011 6:08 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
I am really glad we didn't rush the field too.
I am not sure if it was the 4-5 record, a chump of a Texas team visiting, it being the morning or if everyone was as completely exhausted as I was but our crowd was not only way short of capacity but was rather sedated as well.
I really expected a full stadium and a frenzy whipped crowd for yesterday and was extremely dissapointed. I tried to play my position as fan as well as I could though and am hoarse today.
Crowd
Yeah, I thought it was a bit sedated, although less so in the first half, and the roar after the Franklin first down run that pretty well settled the issue was substantial.
I chalk the somewhat sedated crowd up to the Josey injury, which absolutely sucked the air out of that stadium as much as any injury I can remember seeing in Columbia, and secondly just to the fact that it was sort of an ugly, defense-centered game, and I’m not sure Mizzou fans are used to that—I mean, the last time Mizzou consistently won games with defense was, what, the 60’s? It’s just not the style we’ve been used to the last few years. Not that this is a good excuse, but I think it’s some of the reason.
by Professor Chaos on Nov 13, 2011 11:44 PM CST up reply actions
Alumni Side...
I was on the alumni side, and it was quiet as the grave, even before Josey’s injury. I stood up and shouted “3rd Down!” at everyone around me every time, and yelled like hell, and eventually they’d join in. By the 3rd quarter / late in the 4th, they didn’t need a lot of encouragement.
So, I’d say they started very quiet on the alumni side, and got marginally louder throughout. Maybe caused one false start.
Was really night and day compared to the OU game last year. Obviously, I suppose.
by galactahack on Nov 14, 2011 12:36 PM CST up reply actions
I've been stunned by the delusions I've been seeing here on campus
(I’m a lifelong Mizzou fan currently at grad school at UT. Rooted for Mizzou guiltily for this game glad we’re out of the conference with them so I can root with a clean conscience from now on).
There were a ton of people who thought we were going to steamroll the rest of our schedule and we had turned a corner after our 4-0 start…. never mind that our OOC schedule was pathetic (they tried, at least, in scheduling BYU, but they aren’t that good this year). Then there were a ton of people who thought we were going to run the table after shellacking the two worst run defenses in the conference. Texas fans have generally been a hospitable lot, but they’re not particularly good at evaluating a team that’s clearly still in rebuilding mode.
Can't wait to meet one of our old "buddies" from the big 12 in a bowl game.
by dp2 on Nov 13, 2011 6:32 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Obviously the Bowl bids are subject to change
but, right now, it’s Cotton and Independence (or whatever it’s called now) as the only Big 12 – SEC matchups.
Rational Mizzou Talk, whether you like us or not.
Just Cotton
The Big 12 doesn’t send a team to the Independence Bowl anymore.
Mizzou will not play in the cotton either...
As it gets teams from the SEC West. Until bowl matchups change, do not expect to see Mizzou play a big 12 team in a bowl.
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Possible bowl games for Mizzou....
1. Sugar (New Orleans) vs At Large
2. Capital One (Orlando) vs Big ten #2
3A. Cotton-Next best team From West (Dallas) vs Big 12 #2
3B. Outback-Next best team from East (Tampa) vs BIg Ten #3
5. Chick-Fil-a (Once every 4 years I believe the chick fil a can pick before the outback and COtton) (Atlanta) vs ACC#2
6. Gator (Jaxsonville) vs Big Ten #4/5
7. Music City (Nashville) vs Acc #6
8. Liberty (Memphis) vs CUSA #1
9. Compass (Birmingham) vs Big East #4
Those are all some pretty great travel destinations in december/January….So in a usual year
Those are some pretty great locations. With 14 teams, Mizzou likely to finish 5th-9th depending on the year I would expect to see a lot of Tennesee
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That's what I'm getting at
And we all know how well OU and UT do against SEC teams. Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha…………….. Ha
by dp2 on Nov 13, 2011 7:02 PM CST via mobile reply actions
The last two times I have been in Columbia on a game day
Gary Pinkel has his only two wins against Oklahoma and Texas.
These are facts.
Can you buy your ticket for our first SEC game
next year?
That would be great!
by tigers and chiefs fan on Nov 13, 2011 7:31 PM CST up reply actions
SOURCES ALERT!!!
Sources!!!!!
Yes I know, but a little birdie today told me that our first SEC game will be at home next year against a certain school whose mascot resides in a swamp…
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Yeah, that was the "rough draft" rumor a while back...
…they supposedly passed around a rough draft of a 14-game schedule, and it had UF at MU in September…
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What I've heard is they want both A&M and Mizzou to start off with a big time opponent at home.
Heard UF for MU, and Bama for A&M.
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Who did they start Arkansas et. al. off with? Do they have a history of big welcome games like that.
They started South Carolina off with Georgia in the opening game in '92.
Arkansas got South Carolina in Week 2, Alabama in Week 3.
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They can give us whoever they want...
… as long as Verne and Gary introduce the broadcast as the team runs out of the tunnel with the SEC on CBS theme blaring.
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I want aTm on the road. I want the first SEC game to be a sure win.
tee hee.
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by Spider_Monkey on Nov 14, 2011 9:33 PM CST up reply actions
I know Kim just tweeted about this...
But Mack Brown going over to Josey after he hurt his knee was one of the classiest, most respectful things I have ever seen in sports. I know this sounds pretty weird, but it was a pretty heartwarming moment.
yep, takes the edge off of hating the guy in a big way
I guess I never really hated him, just the idea of him. but now….
Who was it observing a while ago that he never ran up the score like Stoops did, back when he had all his most dominant teams rolling into town against us.
And his comments on conference realignment were fairly classy too.
Never thought I’d say this, but yeah, I respect the guy.
yep, the Bizzaro Shaffe.
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by Spider_Monkey on Nov 14, 2011 12:45 PM CST up reply actions
Do it. We will win. You will end your streak ready fro the SEC and assured that you are not the Bizzaro Shaffe anymore.
#GaknarToArrowhead!
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by Spider_Monkey on Nov 14, 2011 4:52 PM CST up reply actions
i will fight you tooth and nail on this.
if i see gaknar within 10 miles of arrowhead, i will kidnap him and take away his avatar.
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by threadkiller on Nov 14, 2011 8:58 PM CST up reply actions
#GaknarToArrowhead and #TakeTheCannonOnTheRoad
Are you going to the game, or are you having to work during the final beaker football beatdown?
Never Forget Wolf Island, or pie.
Kentucky = the new ku
by Spider_Monkey on Nov 14, 2011 9:18 PM CST up reply actions
i'll be there in the same way an ex-wife is at the funeral of an unfaithful ex-husband.
i want to make sure they’re dead.
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by threadkiller on Nov 14, 2011 9:25 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
then you be nice to Gaknar. #OccupyArrowhead
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Kentucky = the new ku
by Spider_Monkey on Nov 14, 2011 9:32 PM CST up reply actions
i'll have my "employees" take care of his basic needs, don't worry.
you going?
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by threadkiller on Nov 14, 2011 9:37 PM CST up reply actions
No, I'll be watching with the family from Columbia (if it's on tv). Got them coming in from afar.
I hate to admit, I have never been in stadium for a ku-MU football game that I can remember. And I guess I never will. Wow, there’s a lot of finality to that.
Never Forget Wolf Island, or pie.
Kentucky = the new ku
by Spider_Monkey on Nov 14, 2011 9:56 PM CST up reply actions
yeah, i feel as bad for you as i do a homeless veteran.
what can i do to get you there?
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by threadkiller on Nov 14, 2011 10:06 PM CST up reply actions
Don't worry about me, I'll have a lot of great family and good food.
Worry about the homeless veterans, but enjoy the hell out of the game for me.
Never Forget Wolf Island, or pie.
Kentucky = the new ku
by Spider_Monkey on Nov 14, 2011 10:16 PM CST up reply actions
ok. if there's something i can do between now and then let me know. GPG!
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by threadkiller on Nov 14, 2011 10:22 PM CST up reply actions
kind offer, TK. The older generation can't weather the (usual) cold or the walk.
And as it’s the holidays, either we ALL go, or none go. This year we’ll even be treated to possibly interesting NFL games (GPG!).
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by Spider_Monkey on Nov 14, 2011 10:34 PM CST up reply actions
Oh and, Go Pack Go!
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by Spider_Monkey on Nov 14, 2011 10:16 PM CST up reply actions
Just looked at the grainy screenshot of the Vaccaro hit Bill posted.
Is that a mafia guy on the grassy knoll? Where’s the magic bullet?
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And why is vaccaro wearing mittens
So many questions
Tigers did a great job
I am just sorry we couldn’t come through with our part of the bargain. I can however promise you we will crush KU and the horns, but that doesn’t make us anything better than average. Our kids just aren’t closers this year. Your kids are looking SEC ready.
by Texan304 on Nov 14, 2011 12:16 AM CST via mobile reply actions
Oh, and sorry about Josey.
Most of us like Mack Brown as well. It is the dummy duo Powers and Dodds that did all the lying and destroyed the conference. Gig em.
by Texan304 on Nov 14, 2011 12:20 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
I too wish aTm well vs Texas and KU. But just in case, I would suggest the staff set up a natural disaster to occur at the beginning of the 4thQ so they have to call the game.
Let the men drink some coffee.
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by Spider_Monkey on Nov 14, 2011 12:48 PM CST up reply actions
Great parting shot at the Bevoites!
This should make for some great reads on the RollBamaRoll site’s Meltdown Thread on Tuesday. TX is always good for some good laughs after they get beaten by an inferior team (which all schools are according to them). Welcome to the SEC!!!
by tideroller52 on Nov 14, 2011 7:49 AM CST via mobile reply actions
Welcome to the SEC.
As a Bama fan, I would like to welcome you to the SEC. The last time the Longhorns scored exactly 5 points in a game was in a 5-6 loss to Sewanee in 1911. For those who don’t know, Sewanee was in what would become the SEC.
by Bisquick_in_da_MGM on Nov 14, 2011 12:56 PM CST reply actions
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