Mizzou Links, 11-17-11

by Bill C. on Nov 17, 2011 6:09 AM CST in News

Mizzou Football Links

Tech
We Are Mizzou: Mizzou Blackout Game
Barrow
The Trib: Multi-tasking Trey Barrow excels for Missouri
Defense
KC Star: Mizzou simply hasn't been the same on defense
Bowls
The Trib (Dave Matter): Never too early to project bowl games
The Missourian: Sizing up Missouri's bowl prospects
Last Week
We Are Mizzou: Offensive Play of the Week

Mizzou Basketball Links

Niagara Tonight
MUtigers.com: Hoops Hosts Niagara Thursday
MUtigers.com: Mizzou vs. Niagara TV Coverage Info
Haith's Style
KC Star: Haith preaches control over flash

By his reaction after sophomore point guard Phil Pressey delivered no-look and behind-the-back passes that became turnovers, Haith made one thing clear.

It was great that Pressey scored 22 points in Missouri’s 81-63 victory over Mercer. But after two games, Pressey has matched seven assists with seven turnovers.

Missouri had three turnovers in a first half that Haith liked very much. In the second half the Tigers had 10 turnovers, which made Haith …

"Enthusiastic!" guard Michael Dixon suggested.

Mad was more like it by his reaction to some of Pressey’s passing fancy.
Attendance
PowerMizzou: 2011 Tiger Mailbag

So what's YOUR take on the Mizzou bball attendence or lack thereof?? 150,000 people in and around COMO, 30,000 students. It can't all be Haith or last seasons bad ending. Mike Anderson went to an Elite 8 and won the most games in school history and the following year was abismal as usual. So is it a mixture of ticket prices/donation requirements, bad opponents, and time of the games??? it's not a KC/STL problem, its a COMO problem IMO. People seem to just not care.

GD: My take is that Missouri just doesn't have a very rabid basketball fan base. Most of the fans who get season tickets do so largely to be able to attend the Kansas game (it will be interesting to see what happens to season ticket sales when that game is no longer on the schedule). It's not Columbia problem, a mid-MO problem, a KC problem or a St. Louis problem. It's a Missouri fan problem. I understand some of the reasons. People were mad the way Norm was shown the door. They were turned off by the Quin-Clemons deal. There were some down years. The schedule isn't good enough. They don't like the Haith hire. The school doesn't advertise or market games well enough. Those are all reasons people give. ... But the fact is, just as in football, Missouri fans can always find a reason to stay away. To me, great fanbases are the ones that show up all the time no matter what.

SEC

Mr. SEC: Texas A&M Looks to Increase National Exposure Via SEC Move
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Two things:

1. I’m really enjoying trrip’s SEC Dixie-nary series.

2. This is a good time to remind everyone about the fine work done by Seth over at Double T Nation.

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by RPT on Nov 17, 2011 6:42 AM CST reply actions

Also

From the Star article linked above:

"It’s been a roller coaster," Hamilton said. "Up and down, up and down. We haven’t brought the same intensity every week."

Bill, do you have the Def S&P+ week-by-week chart for Mizzou that you have for all of our BTBS opponents that could visually validate this statement?

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by RPT on Nov 17, 2011 6:53 AM CST reply actions

I'll toss that into the Tech preview.

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by Bill C. on Nov 17, 2011 7:45 AM CST up reply actions

as a person with a heart condition

that has really shown itself the older i get i will say this about bball attendence. or at least mine. i get really great tickets for free but i don’t like to go because i have to walk 1/2 mile to the arena. wasn’t like that with the old hearns building. lots of people that i know are turned off by the long walk in cold/bad weather. now that everyone has hd tvs we all have better seats.

can't we just pave over kansas?

by mizzutgr on Nov 17, 2011 7:20 AM CST reply actions

I think this would fall into the excuse category

You can have someone drop you off in front of the building and then park the car. Not trying to downplay your heart condition but there are ways around walking significant distances.

by dspfzf on Nov 17, 2011 7:30 AM CST up reply actions

As a person without basketball tickets...

I would happily accept your great free tickets and make sure that someone is in attendance at those games.

My In-laws have OU season tickets. They have a points system there that is based on attendance. You make sure that someone uses your ticket to attend a game, you get a point. This is used to help determine priority for bowl tickets, etc. I think MU should think about something like this. I get that we all have reasons that we can’t go to games sometimes, but really you should make sure that someone is using those seats. Give them to a kid and help a new generation get hooked on the Tigers.

by N8 on Nov 17, 2011 8:41 AM CST up reply actions

That's a very good idea

by CBonerfied on Nov 17, 2011 8:45 AM CST up reply actions

I'm young and I agree with you

I don’t live in Columbia anymore but when I did that walk was rediculous. I used to go to games with my dad when I was younger…so no dropping me off and finding somewhere to park is not a feasible solution. They need to open up that reserved parking section behind hearnes AND lower the ticket prices. People aren’t willing to pay 30-40 bucks to watch a basketball game which they could get a better view from at home.

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by lost..in the woods on Nov 17, 2011 9:09 AM CST up reply actions

How much longer is Ressel going to be out?

Or / Is he going to redshirt?

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by Kpz1234 on Nov 17, 2011 7:24 AM CST reply actions

No way he can redshirt

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by The Beef on Nov 17, 2011 8:17 AM CST up reply actions

I like the fact that RMN is not the only one that is addressing the attendance issue

I am glad GD left the implication that our fan base currently seems to be a fair weather fan base. The overwhelming pessimism and lackluster attendance sometimes is indicative of how true a fan base can be. I believe Mizzou has a decent fan base but I wish it could be better.

by McZou on Nov 17, 2011 7:42 AM CST via mobile reply actions

it's worse than fair weather.

we stay home during fair weather, too. like g.d. said, it’s not one thing, it’s many.

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by threadkiller on Nov 17, 2011 8:11 AM CST up reply actions

"currently"?

I’ve been to almost every home football game since 1980. The attendance now is a hell of a lot better than it was back then, but I sat in a stadium with maybe 30K people for a lot of years.

by jschooltiger on Nov 17, 2011 8:23 AM CST up reply actions

The word "currently" was interjected as a point of optimism

Always a hope that things will progress to a more rabid and stronger fan base.

by McZou on Nov 17, 2011 8:37 AM CST via mobile up reply actions

Pinkel arrested for DWI last night

Per komu:

Boone County Sheriff’s Department confirms MU football coach Gary Pinkel was arrested last night for DWI.

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by BillSelfsToupee on Nov 17, 2011 8:45 AM CST reply actions

You better be joking

EFF

by CBonerfied on Nov 17, 2011 8:46 AM CST up reply actions

I'm not sure whether sigh or groan is more appropriate here.

Ungood.

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by Transmogrified Tiger on Nov 17, 2011 8:47 AM CST up reply actions

https://twitter.com/#!/KOMUnews

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by BillSelfsToupee on Nov 17, 2011 8:47 AM CST up reply actions

oh balls.

Upholding fine Mizzou traditions in Maryland.
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by Ausgiano on Nov 17, 2011 8:48 AM CST up reply actions

i have no words

That's right Ice Man. I am dangerous

by drewder on Nov 17, 2011 8:58 AM CST up reply actions

I'm going with groan

Sigh kind of implies it was bound to happen eventually.

You expect someone who is 1) an adult, 2) a role model for his players and 3) has more than enough money for a cab to make better choices.

by Damnatio Memoriae on Nov 17, 2011 9:04 AM CST up reply actions

No joke

Well, there went the “coach with the most integrity in CFB” that I was trumpeting last week.

by Sheriff Blalock on Nov 17, 2011 8:48 AM CST up reply actions

OH

helllllllllllllllllll no.

by DC_Tiger on Nov 17, 2011 8:50 AM CST up reply actions

WTF?

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by Mac6uffin on Nov 17, 2011 8:51 AM CST up reply actions

bring in the trolls.

just lost one of our only bragging points. CRAP, GARY!!!!!!!!!!

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by threadkiller on Nov 17, 2011 8:59 AM CST up reply actions

"only"?

by MU'97 on Nov 17, 2011 9:24 AM CST up reply actions

no nc's, no conference championships. we ain't lsu/bama.

In love with the new Gaknar avatar.

by threadkiller on Nov 17, 2011 9:34 AM CST up reply actions

yep

komu Pinkel link

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by Spider_Monkey on Nov 17, 2011 9:16 AM CST reply actions

I'm glad Haith got on to Flip for showboating

Too often he goes for the Sports Center play instead of the smart play and it rarely works.

GO GO FIGHTING METH AGGIES!

by Gaknar on Nov 17, 2011 10:12 AM CST reply actions

Oh, but when it does...

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by Bill C. on Nov 17, 2011 1:20 PM CST up reply actions

Posterized or SC highlight.

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cheesecake is an awesome pie. by mizzou2396 on Nov 17, 2011 2:14 PM CST

by Spider_Monkey on Nov 17, 2011 6:32 PM CST up reply actions

MU should avoid weeknight home games whenever possible -- pop. base is not sufficient w/in hour drive

For starters, Mizzou (foolishly) reports actual attendance vs. tickets sold. No other Big12 school does that (except, perhaps KU). That immediately skews perception of the issue. Evidently Coach Q started that and for inexplicable reasons, MU continues reporting it that way when hardly anyone else does. Mizzou doesn;t even get a gold star for that….only attendance smacktalk. NCAA average attendance rankings do not distinguish between actual atendance and tix sold…MU puts itself at disadvantage for no viable reason.

There are fewer people within a hour drive from Columbia than there are within a hour from any other Big XII school, expect perhaps A&M. That matters — for a weeknight basketball games, especially. Four hours (2 for game and one hour each driving back and forth) is likely the limit people will do to take in a weeknight game esp. against a typical non-con oppt.). The majority of the MU fanbase just happens to be 2+ hours away and few people have 6-7 hours on a weeknight to spare for a game. Every effort should be made to have home games on Sat. afternoon/evening and Sun afternoon, or start games no earlier than 7:30 p.m. In Nov. a Friday night game before FB sat. game would be smart (or Sunday matinee). No doubt the non-conf. schedule could be better, yet even local relevancy helps. SEMO outdrew Mercer by nearly 4000. SEMO and UMKC should be yearly oppts. SLU, too, if they agree to play in Columbia 2 of 3 (perhaps SMS, too).

Schools and the metro areas within a hour drive and est. pop.:

A&M (Bryan/CollegeStation..Bravos valley) 280000
MU (Mid-Mo: Columbia/Jefferson City) 300,000
TTech (Lubbock, Plainview) 320000 (10 county region actually 500000)
KSU (Manhattan/Junction City/Topeka) 350000
ISU (Ames, Des Moines) 600000+
UT (Austin) 1.8 million
OU (Norman, OKC) 1.9 million
OSU (Stillwater, OKC, Tulsa) 2.4 million
KU (Lawrence, Topeka, KC) 2.5 million

by sfprman on Nov 17, 2011 2:53 PM CST reply actions