Study Hall: Mizzou 83, Niagara 52
Your Trifecta: Denmon-English-Ratliffe. Your winner: totalloser! And thank goodness, as this is about as much of a boilerplate trifecta that we can hope for. If nobody had won this one, nobody was ever going to win...
Mizzou 83, Niagara 52
| Mizzou |
Niagara | |
| Pace (No. of Possessions) |
68 |
|
| Points Per Minute |
2.08 |
1.30 |
| Points Per Possession (PPP) |
1.23 |
0.77 |
| Points Per Shot (PPS) |
1.57 |
0.90 |
| 2-PT FG% | 41.9% |
46.9% |
| 3-PT FG% | 54.5% |
19.2% |
| FT% | 72.4% |
70.0% |
| True Shooting % | 63.1% |
41.7% |
| Mizzou | Niagara | |
| Assists | 16 |
6 |
| Steals | 13 |
3 |
| Turnovers | 7 |
16 |
| Ball Control Index (BCI) (Assists + Steals) / TO |
4.14 |
0.56 |
| Mizzou | Niagara | |
| Expected Offensive Rebounds | 11 |
14 |
| Offensive Rebounds | 7 |
8 |
| Difference | -4 |
-6 |
Our Four-Guard Lineup Can Beat Your Four-Guard Lineup
You better have size to beat Mizzou, because if you are just trusting that your backcourt can beat the Pressey-Denmon-English-Pressey/Dixon combination, you are probably going to be sorely mistaken. This game was right up Mizzou's alley, and it showed very quickly.
Who Needs To Press?
In approximately seven fewer possessions per game, Mizzou is averaging more steals per game thus far in 2011-12 (11.3) than they did in their first three games of last season (11.0). Obviously that isn't a perfect comparison, but ... while we're at it...
- Offensive Points Per Possession
2011-12 (first three games): 1.22
2010-11 (first three games): 1.04 - Opponents' Points Per Possession
2011-12 (first three games): 0.90
2010-11 (first three games): 0.81 - Rebound Margin (Acc. to Expected Rebounds)
2011-12 (first three games): +2.4/game
2010-11 (first three games): +4.3/game - BCI
2011-12 (first three games): Mizzou 2.43, Opponents 1.00
2010-11 (first three games): Mizzou 1.73, Opponents 0.74
So basically, Mizzou's offense is significantly better (it's amazing what a dialed-in Kim English can do for you, huh?), and Mizzou's defense is a little worse overall. The defense has passed my eyeball test, though, so I'll just let that serve as a reminder that we probably shouldn't be drawing too many conclusions -- good or bad -- after three cupcake games. We'll begin to learn more when the 'real' games start on Monday.
Mizzou Player Stats
(Definitions at the bottom of the post.)
| Player |
AdjGS | GmSc/Min | Line |
| Marcus Denmon |
21.5 |
0.72 |
30 Min, 22 Pts (7-13 FG, 5-8 3PT, 3-4 FT), 7 Reb, 2 Ast, 2 Stl |
| Kim English |
16.2 |
0.51 |
32 Min, 14 Pts (4-7 FG, 4-6 3PT, 2-2 FT), 7 Reb, 3 Ast, 2 Stl, 2 TO |
| Ricardo Ratliffe |
12.1 |
0.60 |
20 Min, 12 Pts (6-7 FG), 6 Reb |
| Mike Dixon |
11.3 |
0.56 |
20 Min, 12 Pts (3-7 FG, 0-2 3PT, 6-7 FT), 3 Ast, 2 Stl |
| Phil Pressey |
10.7 |
0.44 |
24 Min, 8 Pts (2-6 FG, 1-2 3PT, 3-5 FT), 5 Ast, 5 Stl, 2 Reb, 2 TO |
| Matt Pressey |
8.2 |
0.27 |
30 Min, 12 Pts (3-9 FG, 2-3 3PT, 4-6 FT), 3 Reb |
| Steve Moore |
5.7 |
0.36 |
16 Min, 3 Pts (0-2 FG, 3-4 FT), 5 Reb (3 Off) |
| Jarrett Sutton |
-0.5 |
-0.06 |
9 Min, 0 Pts (0-1 3PT), 2 Reb |
| Andy Rosburg |
-0.8 |
-0.20 |
4 Min, 0 Pts, 2 Reb |
| Kadeem Green |
-1.9 |
-0.13 |
15 Min, 0 Pts (0-1 FG, 0-1 FT), 2 Reb |
Well, since we already opened the "Last Year vs This Year" can of worms...
- Marcus Denmon
2011-12 (first three games): 19.5 AdjGS/game, 0.61/minute
2010-11 (first three games): 8.8 AdjGS/game, 0.32/minute - Kim English
2011-12 (first three games): 14.9 AdjGS/game, 0.45/minute
2010-11 (first three games): 10.1 AdjGS/game, 0.38/minute - Mike Dixon
2011-12 (first three games): 10.3 AdjGS/game, 0.43/minute
2010-11 (first three games): 13.4 AdjGS/game, 0.63/minute - Phil Pressey
2011-12 (first three games): 12.7 AdjGS/game, 0.42/minute
2010-11 (first three games): 6.8 AdjGS/game, 0.33/minute - Ricardo Ratliffe
2011-12 (first three games): 12.3 AdjGS/game, 0.49/minute
2010-11 (first three games): 9.3 AdjGS/game, 0.42/minute - Steve Moore
2011-12 (first three games): 4.6 AdjGS/game, 0.37/minute
2010-11 (first three games): 5.4 AdjGS/game, 0.38/minute - Matt Pressey
2011-12 (first three games): 6.1 AdjGS/game, 0.23/minute
2010-11 (first three games): 2.0 AdjGS/game, 0.17/minute
So five players have improved by a good margin out of the gates (anybody else forget that Denmon started slow last year, or was it just me?), one (Dixon) has not, and one (Moore) is basically exactly the same. This is good, of course, as Mizzou has also replaced Laurence Bowers and Justin Safford with Kadeem Green. They needed everybody else to improve.
| Player | Usage% | Floor% | Touches/ Poss. |
%Pass | %Shoot | %Fouled | %T/O |
| Denmon |
27% | 50% | 2.8 | 42% | 47% | 11% | 0% |
| English |
17% | 48% | 2.7 | 63% | 25% | 5% | 7% |
| Ratliffe |
19% | 83% | 2.0 | 46% | 54% | 0% | 0% |
| Dixon |
28% | 49% | 4.6 | 59% | 23% | 18% | 0% |
| P. Pressey |
23% | 39% | 5.3 | 71% | 15% | 9% | 5% |
| M. Pressey |
23% | 33% | 2.1 | 29% | 44% | 22% | 5% |
| Moore |
13% | 34% | 2.1 | 54% | 18% | 28% | 0% |
| Sutton |
6% | 0% | 0.3 | 0% | 100% | 0% | 0% |
| Rosburg |
14% | 0% | 0.8 | 0% | 0% | 0% | 100% |
| Green |
9% | 0% | 0.6 | 0% | 36% | 28% | 36% |
To the checklist!
Marcus Denmon's Usage% needs to be 23% or higher. (Yes!)
Kim English's %T/O needs to be at 10% or lower. (Yes!)
Kim English's Floor% should be at 35% or higher. (Yes!)
Ricardo Ratliffe's %Fouled should be at least 10%. (No.)
Phil Pressey's Touches/Possession need to be 3.5 or better. (Yes!)
Mike Dixon's %Pass should be 55% or higher. (Yes!)
Steve Moore's Touches/Possession should be at least 1.0. (Yes!)
Six for seven. Best game yet.
Summary
This game was as easy as we hoped it would be. The real season begins Monday. For all intents and purposes, if this were a 12-game, football-esque schedule, the first game against the FCS school was a solid success. Now things get interesting.
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AdjGS: a take-off of the Game Score metric (definition here) accepted by a lot of basketball stat nerds. It takes points, assists, rebounds (offensive & defensive), steals, blocks, turnovers and fouls into account to determine an individual's "score" for a given game. The "adjustment" in Adjusted Game Score is simply matching the total game scores to the total points scored in the game, thereby redistributing the game's points scored to those who had the biggest impact on the game itself, instead of just how many balls a player put through a basket.
Usage%: This "estimates the % of team possessions a player consumes while on the floor" (via). The usage of those possessions is determined via a formula using field goal and free throw attempts, offensive rebounds, assists and turnovers. The higher the number, the more prevalent a player is (good or bad) in a team's offensive outcome. As you would expect, someone like Kim English has a high Usage%, while Steve Moore has an extremely low one.
Floor%: Via Basketball-Reference.com: Floor % answers the question, "when Player X uses a possession, what is the probability that his team scores at least 1 point?". The higher the Floor%, the more frequently the team probably scores when the given player is involved.
Touches/Possession: Using field goal attempts, free throw attempts, assists and turnovers, Touches attempt to estimate "the number of times a player touched the ball in an attacking position on the floor." Take the estimated touches and divide it by the estimated number of possessions for which a player was on the court, and you get a rough idea of how many times a player touched the ball in a given possession. For point guards, you'll see the number in the 3-4 range. For shooting guards and wings, 2-3. For Steve Moore, 1.30. You get the idea.
Anyway, using the Touches figure, we can estimate the percentage of time a player "in an attacking position" passes, shoots, turns the ball over, or gets fouled.
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Still way early,
But I’m liking Haith’s game management so far. And whatever’s gotten into Kimmie attitude-wise. They’re starting to play with an edge about them that just wasn’t there last year. Hope they keep it up.
by Bivouac77 on Nov 18, 2011 2:56 PM CST via mobile reply actions
yeah me too
early, but Frank-ball has looked good so far.
whatever’s gotten into Kimmie
We’ll reconcile it by winning.
I’m known as a bit of a dreamer!
by MizzouRah04 on Nov 19, 2011 9:06 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
So pumped to be going to the Mizzou game in KC against ND on Monday.
It will be my first time seeing the BBall team live this year.
I think we'll reconcile it by winning!
-Kim English
by Jack618 on Nov 18, 2011 3:11 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
I noticed that too...
4.14? I don’t have a history of BCI scores, but that has to be damn near the top.
Top Heavy Beer Drinker
Are Trifecta picks ordered...
Or do you just have to get the right 3? If the latter, I can’t see how it’s won so rarely.
Yeah, you have to get the right three guys in the correct order.
It doesn’t happen often. I felt like last year happened more than usual because there were a lot of games where it was some combo of Denmon, Bowers, Dixon. The year before, it seemed like no one won it.
I think we'll reconcile it by winning!
-Kim English
i think we'll have multiple winners this year
because of two things: 1. our community has grown since last season, and 2. this team doesn’t have a lot of depth.
In love with the new Gaknar avatar.
by threadkiller on Nov 18, 2011 5:55 PM CST up reply actions
though to be fair, this time around, everyone was beaten by a total loser
What does that make the rest of us?
;)
by Wan Ihite on Nov 19, 2011 5:13 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
We are all winners here at RockM
Irish provenance of the schwa pronunciation of vowels in weakly stressed syllables -> Missoura
INSPIRATION!

Missouri Tigers/St. Louis Cardinals/Minnesota Wild/Oranje
by Dutch Missourian on Nov 18, 2011 3:59 PM CST reply actions 8 recs
nice work
have you seen fatalities from the new MK? They are crazily graphic. My roommate’s kid was playing it. I felt old thinking “man I would never let my kid play that game”.
When one of the characters is Freddy Kreuger, that's a dead giveaway. So to speak.
GO GO FIGHTING METH AGGIES!
With a loss to MSST and now only up by 2 at the half, aTm is having a rough start for a #18 ranking
by McZou on Nov 18, 2011 4:35 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Middleton injury
looks like it hurt them more than people thought it would. The whole Big 12 is variously banged up, shorthanded, and/or unproven. Anybody’s league, almost.Should be an interesting year.
by Bivouac77 on Nov 18, 2011 8:16 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
IOWA STATE WINS!!!
CHAOS! CHAOS! CHAOS!
GO GO FIGHTING METH AGGIES!
by Gaknar on Nov 18, 2011 10:51 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Iowa State screw both Oklahoma schools and possibly K-State with a single win
Nice.
GO GO FIGHTING METH AGGIES!
by Gaknar on Nov 18, 2011 11:05 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Way to go Fightin' Ronald McDonalds! That was fun.
Never Forget Wolf Island, or pie; it's vaguely sordid.
"'cheesecake is an awesome pie" per mizzou2396 Nov 17, 2011 2:14 PM
by Spider_Monkey on Nov 19, 2011 3:59 AM CST up reply actions
After the K state guys were such jerks
it’s nice that I can still have the warm and fuzzies about ISU.
Fun with OSU meltdown on CRFF:
OH GOD WHERE IS MY NITROGLYCERIN? by Yachoffsmirnoff on Nov 18, 2011 10:07 PM
shit is getting real by samuelbryant on Nov 18, 2011 10:19
im gonna throw up by Asmaki on Nov 18, 2011 10:21
Come on Iowa state I thought we were cool with each other. by samuelbryant on Nov 18, 2011 10:23
If we 3 and out here I will Puke and drink enough jack to pass out and wake up in morning to get result. by CincyJoe on Nov 18, 2011 10:24
Never Forget Wolf Island, or pie; it's vaguely sordid.
"'cheesecake is an awesome pie" per mizzou2396 Nov 17, 2011 2:14 PM
by Spider_Monkey on Nov 19, 2011 4:23 AM CST up reply actions
OSU CRFF meltdown thread part deux:
THANK YOU BABY JESUS by AUKingOState on Nov 18, 2011 10:29
DO NOT GIVE THE BALL TO RANDLE by getagrip340 on Nov 18, 2011 10:30
Well fuck you sharp, no wonder you were depressed last year. by AUKingOState on Nov 18, 2011 10:34
Do they really want to play short field with W2B? Bring it on. by CincyJoe on Nov 18, 2011 10:38
FUCK YOU WEEDEN GOD DAMN IT by AUKingOState on Nov 18, 2011 10:49
Never Forget Wolf Island, or pie; it's vaguely sordid.
"'cheesecake is an awesome pie" per mizzou2396 Nov 17, 2011 2:14 PM
by Spider_Monkey on Nov 19, 2011 4:36 AM CST up reply actions
And meltdown finale:
I hate Iowa state so much. I hope they lose at everything forever. by AUKingOState on Nov 18, 2011 10:50
Well that saved me about $5000 in tickets, travel, booze, and hookers at the National Championship game. by CowboyInBuckeyeLand on Nov 18, 2011 10:50
Fuck it, go cry Weeden you bitch by AUKingOState on Nov 18, 2011 10:51
make it stop You fuck heads play neil diamond after you win? by Yachoffsmirnoff on Nov 18, 2011 10:53
IOWA STATE? IOWA FUCKING STATE? by CincyJoe on Nov 18, 2011 10:54
Ames Iowa, worse than the fucking taliban by AUKingOState on Nov 18, 2011 11:02
They remind me of us they were so happy tonight by OSUtopia on Nov 19, 2011 12:44
Fuck us then by AUKingOState on Nov 19, 2011 12:44
Never Forget Wolf Island, or pie; it's vaguely sordid.
"'cheesecake is an awesome pie" per mizzou2396 Nov 17, 2011 2:14 PM
by Spider_Monkey on Nov 19, 2011 4:54 AM CST up reply actions
wow
classy. I guess all that T. Boone money bought that a whole lot of larnin and now they’re all smooth and stuff.
I'm sorry but, "playing Neil Diamond after you win"
IS FUCKING EPIC!!
I was singing along last night.
That was the coolest part of the entire event.
by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Nov 19, 2011 10:04 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I think it's going to take them a couple of years to really get Anderson's system in place.
GO GO FIGHTING METH AGGIES!
Yeah, but I will still raise a glass
each time they lose… because I’m that guy.
"Alcohol may be man's worst enemy, but the bible says love your enemy." --Frank Sinatra
by Other Side of the Pillow on Nov 18, 2011 10:53 PM CST up reply actions
Same here
And if Arky football steals some of our recruits, I think we have our new Border War rival.
GO GO FIGHTING METH AGGIES!
It's going to be tough if we're only playing them twice every 12 years.
I’m known as a bit of a dreamer!
I agree
But Anderson never lost at home to a team like Houston. Yeah we lost on the road to Oral Roberts, but never at home
They weren't at "home"
The game was in Little Rock.
by pawpride on Nov 19, 2011 12:45 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
In Little Rock is technically a home game for the Hogs.
They play a number of home games there every year (both basketball and football)
I’m known as a bit of a dreamer!
MSST beat both #18 aTm & #16 Arizona
I wonder where MSST will land on the polls, even with a 4-1 record?
by McZou on Nov 19, 2011 10:36 AM CST via mobile reply actions

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