Week Thirteen BlogPoll: Chaos
by D-Sing on Nov 21, 2011 9:00 AM CST
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I wasn't joking about wanting to watch the world burn.
And it has become chaotic thanks to the recent spate of upsets. Now we get to play the fun game of who is number two.
Attention this week on our soon to be new conference: Friday's game at Baton Rouge between Arkansas and LSU and Saturday between Auburn and Alabama.
Rock M Nation Ballot - Week 13
| Rank | Team | Delta |
|---|---|---|
| 1 | LSU Tigers | -- |
| 2 | Alabama Crimson Tide |  1 |
| 3 | Arkansas Razorbacks | 3 |
| 4 | Virginia Tech Hokies | 3 |
| 5 | Boise St. Broncos | 4 |
| 6 | Georgia Bulldogs | 2 |
| 7 | Oklahoma St. Cowboys |  -5 |
| 8 | Houston Cougars | 2 |
| 9 | Stanford Cardinal | 3 |
| 10 | Oklahoma Sooners | -5 |
| 11 | Michigan St. Spartans | 3 |
| 12 | Kansas St. Wildcats | 1 |
| 13 | Wisconsin Badgers | 2 |
| 14 | USC Trojans | 8 |
| 15 | Oregon Ducks | -11 |
| 16 | South Carolina Gamecocks | 2 |
| 17 | Michigan Wolverines | -- |
| 18 | Penn St. Nittany Lions | 2 |
| 19 | TCU Horned Frogs | 2 |
| 20 | Clemson Tigers | -9 |
| 21 | Nebraska Cornhuskers | -5 |
| 22 | Baylor Bears | -- |
| 23 | Notre Dame Fighting Irish | 1 |
| 24 | Virginia Cavaliers | -- |
| 25 | West Virginia Mountaineers | -- |
| Dropouts: Southern Miss. Golden Eagles, Florida St. Seminoles | ||
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Hey Bill, if you're reading this:
Do you have your Adj. Score Trends for LSU and Alabama, or do you have to run those specially for the BTBS previews/reviews?
I keep hearing from ESPN how no one wants to see another 9-6 defensive showdown for the national championship, and lamenting that we won’t get to see an SEC defence tested by a better offence, nevermind what happened in the last 3 national championships. I’m curious if LSU and Alabama’s offences are really as anaemic as ESPN makes them out to be, or if they’ve just been blunted by great defences.
If you don’t have those numbers just laying around, nevermind… but if you do, could up put them up somewhere?
by Damnatio Memoriae on Nov 21, 2011 9:59 AM CST reply actions
On Mike and Mike this morning
the BCS guru for the WWL said that even if Arkansas beat LSU, he wasn’t sure that LSU would fall behind Arkansas in the BCS standings. That’s pretty crazy.
Busting Bill C since September 19, 2011 10:19 CST, 8:19 PDT.
No kidding
Dr. Saturday had a pretty solid breakdown of the possible outcomes.
And I can say with zero sarcasm that I am positively giddy with excitement to be joining this conference. I can’t wait to see how we stack up against programs like this.
by Damnatio Memoriae on Nov 21, 2011 10:52 AM CST up reply actions
Fun times
I don’t get all the whining about a National championship game being intra-conference or even intra-division.
If they are the two best teams, they are the best teams. Period.
yep.
playoff advocates, the lot of ’em.
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by threadkiller on Nov 21, 2011 1:12 PM CST up reply actions
I saw in the comments of the Dr. Saturday an interesting quetsion
does the 2 team max apply to the national championship game? So If Georgia beats LSU in the title game, can only one other team from the SEC go to a BCS game?
Busting Bill C since September 19, 2011 10:19 CST, 8:19 PDT.
It is my understanding...
…that the only way the SEC gets three teams is if the SEC champ ISN’T one of the two SEC teams in the national title game. So Georgia beats LSU, and Bama-LSU are still1-2.
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I just didn’t know how the 1 always plays 2 rule and the only 2 teams from a conference would co-exist. A guy from the WWL who is supposedly an expert said that basically the only way it wasn’t LSU v. Bama in the title game was if Bama lost to LSU or if lost to Arky and Georgia. He said that a loss to Arky would only drop LSU to 2nd and Arky would remain in 3rd.
If I were an Arky fan and this scenario played out, it would be hard to describe my anger.
Busting Bill C since September 19, 2011 10:19 CST, 8:19 PDT.
it would be comparable to mizzou anger circa 2007, yes?
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by threadkiller on Nov 21, 2011 1:43 PM CST up reply actions
I think it would be worse
In that scenario, Arkansas would have a legitimate grip about not being in the national championship game and instead they go to the Cotton Bowl. For Mizzou, our beef was just not going to a BCS game.
Busting Bill C since September 19, 2011 10:19 CST, 8:19 PDT.
comparable?
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by threadkiller on Nov 21, 2011 3:06 PM CST up reply actions
yes
like apples and oranges. Both fruits. Both can be made into a delicious juice. Both grow on trees.
Busting Bill C since September 19, 2011 10:19 CST, 8:19 PDT.
i don't think i appreciate your tone, young man.
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by threadkiller on Nov 21, 2011 4:01 PM CST up reply actions
well you have never appreciated the greatness that is me
which is unfortunate because I am pretty remarkably great. I don’t mean to brag or anything, but I’ve beaten the original Super Mario Bros. on the nintendo entertainment system.
Busting Bill C since September 19, 2011 10:19 CST, 8:19 PDT.
i've read entire church bulletins
from cover to cover.
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by threadkiller on Nov 21, 2011 4:16 PM CST up reply actions
I've sat through entire Minnesota Gophter football games. Outside. In December.
Never Forget Wolf Island, or pie; it's vaguely sordid.
"'cheesecake is an awesome pie" per mizzou2396 Nov 17, 2011 2:14 PM
by Spider_Monkey on Nov 21, 2011 4:24 PM CST up reply actions
i bobbed for apples in the toilet
and i liked it.
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by threadkiller on Nov 21, 2011 4:28 PM CST up reply actions
why? Tetanus experiment? WTF TK?
Never Forget Wolf Island, or pie; it's vaguely sordid.
"'cheesecake is an awesome pie" per mizzou2396 Nov 17, 2011 2:14 PM
by Spider_Monkey on Nov 21, 2011 4:40 PM CST up reply actions
this is porter. who is this tk?
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by threadkiller on Nov 21, 2011 4:44 PM CST up reply actions
oh. jeebus. gotcha.
Never Forget Wolf Island, or pie; it's vaguely sordid.
"'cheesecake is an awesome pie" per mizzou2396 Nov 17, 2011 2:14 PM
by Spider_Monkey on Nov 21, 2011 4:46 PM CST up reply actions
And when your teeth are chattering uncontrollably, you do say "GophTer."
Never Forget Wolf Island, or pie; it's vaguely sordid.
"'cheesecake is an awesome pie" per mizzou2396 Nov 17, 2011 2:14 PM
by Spider_Monkey on Nov 21, 2011 4:27 PM CST up reply actions
cover to cover?
so you know when the pancake breakfast is?
Busting Bill C since September 19, 2011 10:19 CST, 8:19 PDT.
the week before the ice cream social.
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by threadkiller on Nov 21, 2011 4:38 PM CST up reply actions
so two weeks after the bake sale?
Last year nobody bought my ice cream pie and it made me so sad that I ate all of it.
Busting Bill C since September 19, 2011 10:19 CST, 8:19 PDT.
AH HA!! ICE CREAM
PIE!!!
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by threadkiller on Nov 21, 2011 4:45 PM CST up reply actions
for the WIN
Never Forget Wolf Island, or pie; it's vaguely sordid.
"'cheesecake is an awesome pie" per mizzou2396 Nov 17, 2011 2:14 PM
by Spider_Monkey on Nov 21, 2011 4:47 PM CST up reply actions
you both missed it
for shame. The purpose was to explain that the pie was not purchased. In fact, nobody wanted the pie. Because there were delicious cakes to be purchased.
Also, I ate the pie because I was depressed. Which means pie is nothing more than a depression food.
FTW.
Busting Bill C since September 19, 2011 10:19 CST, 8:19 PDT.
your mom is a depression food.
Never Forget Wolf Island, or pie; it's vaguely sordid.
"'cheesecake is an awesome pie" per mizzou2396 Nov 17, 2011 2:14 PM
by Spider_Monkey on Nov 21, 2011 5:31 PM CST up reply actions
just clearly a lie on your part.
if somebody didn’t buy your ice cream pie, it had to be because of your reputation as a subpar cook, as it were. or you put a rodent on top of it.
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by threadkiller on Nov 21, 2011 5:45 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
he probably put cold cuts on the pie
Never Forget Wolf Island, or pie; it's vaguely sordid.
"'cheesecake is an awesome pie" per mizzou2396 Nov 17, 2011 2:14 PM
by Spider_Monkey on Nov 21, 2011 6:37 PM CST up reply actions
I'm not going to look this up to justify my point
but I think it’s correct that, overall, LSU has better wins than Arkansas. Whereas compared to Missouri, KU didn’t. And they lost the head to head.
so if kU had better wins, Mizzou fans wouldn't have been reasonably upset about the outcome?
Busting Bill C since September 19, 2011 10:19 CST, 8:19 PDT.
well, I mean apples to oranges kind of
The only way that situations would be comparable would be if KU had beaten OU as well as a number of other strong teams that year, which, of course, they didn’t. Since Arkansas lost to Alabama, I can’t get too worked up over them getting passed over for LSU.
I'm not getting worked up nor was I comparing our old situation to theirs
But, I see the inherent injustice in having the same record as a team, beating them in the head to head matchup and being left out in the cold. I think the more comprable scenario is the OU/Tech?Texas situation from a few years ago (2?) 3 teams from the same division of a conference with the same record and each having beaten 1 and lost to the other. The way Tech was dismissively tossed to the side was unfortunate.
Busting Bill C since September 19, 2011 10:19 CST, 8:19 PDT.
I agree in a general sense
I guess what I’m saying is, it’s almost certainly true that MU was better than KU in 2007. We should have gone to a better bowl than them. LSU has almost certainly been better than Arkansas (taking “entire body of work” into account), so they should go to a better bowl (even if they lose head to head).
I wish the system was different, at the very least that better teams go to better bowls (which isn’t the case). More generally, I wish there was a playoff.
I think we just agree then
the system is flawed and every year a flaw is brought to the forefront. Of course if, LSU just beats Arkansas, the flaw will remain somewhat hidden.
Busting Bill C since September 19, 2011 10:19 CST, 8:19 PDT.
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