Mizzou Links, 12-16-11
by Bill C. on Dec 16, 2011 5:24 AM CST
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Last night was a coach's dream: a super-easy win that gives you plenty of reasons to still light into your players. There is certainly value in struggling for a good 15 minutes and still winning by 37.
- Mizzou > Kennesaw State
MUtigers.com: No. 8 Tigers Dominate Kennesaw State 104-67
MUtigers.com: Post Game Notes
MUtigers.com: Post Game Quotes
MUtigers.com: Box Score
The Trib: Tigers improve to 10-0 with another rout
The Missourian: Missouri balances finals week and win over Kennesaw State
The Missourian: Kadeem Green makes an impression in Missouri victory
KC Star: After a lethargic start, Missouri runs its record to 10-0
KC Star: Missouri Notebook
Post-Dispatch: MU romps after slow start
Fox Sports MW: No. 10 Missouri routs Kennesaw State 104-67
KBIA Sports Extra: Tigers cruise to first 10-0 start in 20 years - The Trib: Tigers embrace value of video under Haith
"I’m a big film guy," Haith said. "I watch tape all the time. ... I think that’s the best learning tool. I think we’ll always teach that way."
His predecessor, Mike Anderson, wasn’t as invested in breaking down video. It ran counter to his coaching philosophy. His high-pressure system was designed to take teams out of their normal style, and, as often as possible, he wanted his players to score before the defense had a chance to get set. So Anderson didn’t think there was a great need to study an opponent’s tendencies.
The Tigers did watch film, but they were mostly trying to fine-tune what they were doing.
"Coach Haith balances that really well," MU video coordinator Bryan Tibaldi said. "It’s not just about who we’re playing. It does come down to how we want to play, and it’s still imposing our will."
- Post-Dispatch: Who will fill the void in St. Louis sports?
3. Frank Haith: The first-year Missouri basketball coach certainly had an awkward beginning. He wasn't a popular hire. Then Haith's name was linked to a disgraced former Miami booster who made serious allegations about improprieties in the Hurricanes' athletic department. But Haith has the undefeated, nationally ranked Tigers off to a rollicking start. Haith's players clearly enjoy playing for him; the Tigers work hard and play smart. The new coach is winning over skeptics and making new friends. [...]
15. Phil Pressey: Is the Mizzou sophomore on his way to becoming one of the top point guards in college basketball?
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Dave Matter William Moore's coverage forced that Gabbert INT. Another rough night for the rookie. Doesn't have much help but looked rattled vs the rush
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So um, unimpressive performance by Blaine Gabbert last night, I presume? It is usually pretty difficult to figure out how much blame to assign the quarterback and the line on sacks, but I think it's safe at this point to say that neither Gabbert's pocket presence nor his terrible line (even if they're decent at run blocking, that doesn't mean they're good at pass protection) have graded out well this year.
- Gabs
Jacksonville.com: Blaine Gabbert takes beating as Falcons go on attack - Freshmen
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I don't want to bad mouth MA
as he rescued the basketball program and gave us some very successful and entertaining years.
But the more I read, the more I wonder WTF he was doing the last year or two.
Proud Meth Aggie since 2011.
The Trib article on XCMA disdain for video was very enlightening
But agreed on XCMA having some success with our program and filling seats w/the fastest 40 mins.
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Thanks for the memories, Mike
The Fastest 40 was a lot of fun to watch – when it worked. I can’t believe this basketball program with this talent the last few years wasn’t watching film. I’m glad we finally have a coach with a staff and a plan that focuses more on player development and less on “RUN RUN RUN!!!”
by CousinEddieMIZ on Dec 16, 2011 10:24 AM CST up reply actions
Some teams don't need a lot of coaching
some do.
This one evidently needed a different take on things.
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Not recruiting?
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Rocky Balboa once told me, "Nothing is real if you don't believe in who you are."
AHHH...
…was flipping channels, saw that KSU-Mizzou highlights were on deck on SportsCenter, decided to watch until they were shown. And I’ve now been subjected to back-to-back-to-back Tebow segments first.
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I can't hear Tebow's name...
… without thinking of this greatness from Spencer:
YOUR STUPID NON-COLLEGE-FOOTBALL-WATCHING RELATIVE SAYS: “Oregon has the uniforms and the colors and the things, don’t they? What’s with that? Hey, what do you think of Tim Tebow? ‘Cause I’ve got some real strong opinions I’d like to share.”
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What's the point of that little lineup on the side of the screen?
I gave up Sportscenter a long time ago, because I prefer my news/information to not be sponsored by Coors Light. Having said that, I did find myself watching it the other day, and they move things around on that “What’s Next” area all the time. What’s the point of telling me what’s next when you’re just going to shuffle things around & show me something else?
by The Detroiter on Dec 16, 2011 7:52 AM CST up reply actions
Radio is just as bad
the teasers are infuriating.
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Good thing I recorded all three!
Haha, just kidding. WWL is like some kind of perpetual motion machine. Creates a storyline/controversy, reports on it, gets feedback from viewers, reports controversy is growing, reports on it more. You know the Circle of Life? This is the Circle of Bullshit
by MizzouRugby on Dec 16, 2011 9:25 AM CST up reply actions 4 recs
I can't rec this enough.
ESPN = Bullshit. It’s like a wrestling news show at this point. Everything is self generated or barely sports related with an entertainment tie-in.
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Rocky Balboa once told me, "Nothing is real if you don't believe in who you are."
you think it's bad here
we spent Thanksgiving with my parents in Colorado (they live a few towns north of Denver). It was ALL THAT WAS ON TV. As if ESPN wasn’t bad enough, it was all oner the local stations as well.
by jschooltiger on Dec 16, 2011 9:50 AM CST up reply actions
Like I said yesterday...
…the coverage is doing a complete disservice to Denver’s defense. Tebow basically engineers one touchdown drive per game (granted, it’s always in the fourth quarter), and he’s on the front page of SI. The defense, meanwhile, is setting him up to succeed by only requiring one TD drive per game.
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I'm not a Tebow hater but I agree with you.
Seems to me similar to the Dilfer/Ravens situation with Dilfer being the caretaker QB and let the D do their job.
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Agreed.
Except Dilfer didn’t get on the cover of SI for being a game manager.
I hate complaining about this, by the way. I love players who play the game differently but end up succeeding anyway. I would typically love a story like this, but the coverage has just been so sickening and exhausting that I’ve grown to hate him, through almost no fault of his own.
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Right. I wasn't comparing the media coverage of Dilfer to Tebow but the football situation.
I like Tebow as a person. He is a guy would like my son to be a fan of, but I agree, enough already. Let the dude play and whatever happens, happens. I don’t need a news story about people copying him in the halls of their local high school.
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Focus all the hate on the WWL
And just enjoy watching Tebow on mute, that’s what I do.
by MizzouRugby on Dec 16, 2011 10:59 AM CST up reply actions
speaking of over-coverage
I just learned that Tebow’s favorite actress is Jennifer Anniston. Which makes total sense. Both are good people, who were very good at the lower level (college and TV, respectively) and both continue to have success at the next level (NFL and Movies) despite everyone pretty much being in agreement that they aren’t very good at their jobs (being a qb, being a reasonable actress who can carry a rom-com).
Also, both get waaaaaay too many magazine covers for what they do.
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Your logic here is undeniable and quite frankly, frightening.
That's right Ice Man. I am dangerous
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the only difference
is I believe if it were up to Tebow, he would not ask for the magazine covers, if it were Jennifer she would demand that every magazine cover be her and something about Brad Pitt.
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I read Peter King from SI saying that Broncos media director told him that Tebow pretty much rejects most media request except for local Broncos coverage. In regards to actual appearances ie Leno, Today show and the like.
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I buy that
He’s a Bronco, so I can’t really cheer for him, but I feel bad for him because the excessive coverage (which he doesn’t seem to want) makes people who are perfectly rational (Bill C) grow to hate the guy through no action of his own.
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hate for tebow is really misdirected. direct hate here:
"We can't beat William and Mary!! Bill and Mary?? They put their pants on the same way we do!!"
by threadkiller on Dec 16, 2011 12:44 PM CST up reply actions
Meh
He was perfectly happy to have attention on him in college when he was busy spreading the good word and when patronizing people in Super Bowl ads.
Now he doesn’t want it?
I didn't know he was perfectly happy having the attention in college
was that reported somewhere and I just missed it?
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by mizzou2396 on Dec 16, 2011 1:17 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Agreed
But, I’ll actually look at a Jennifer Anniston cover. Tebow…………not so much.
"Let schoolmasters puzzle their brain, With grammar, and nonsense, and learning; Good liquor, I stoutly maintain, Gives genius a better discerning." – Oliver Goldsmith
Bingo.
I’ve never once complained about Jennifer Aniston being on a magazine cover. Which might make me hypocritical. But in this case, I’m okay with that.
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I still love Tebow for doing the option thing in the NFL- and for the irony of trolling everyone by pulling victories out of his ass that he really shouldn’t get credit for, but does anyway.
Except in the Vikings game.
Where Tebow showed off that arm.
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3 seed in Phoenix according to Joe Lunardi
by tigers and chiefs fan on Dec 16, 2011 7:46 AM CST reply actions
With an outside chance at a match-up with Georgetown.
Fun!
"Let schoolmasters puzzle their brain, With grammar, and nonsense, and learning; Good liquor, I stoutly maintain, Gives genius a better discerning." – Oliver Goldsmith
Whatever our seeding I hoping for placement in the Omaha pod. I have a friend who lives in Lincoln 1 hr away.
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Potential matchup with SLU in the second round, also.
I think we'll reconcile it by winning!
-Kim English
And Marquette in the 3rd!
Am REALLY liking this bracket!
"Let schoolmasters puzzle their brain, With grammar, and nonsense, and learning; Good liquor, I stoutly maintain, Gives genius a better discerning." – Oliver Goldsmith
that was an interesting little read on torey boozer.
grow up in texas and have a burning desire to play for missouri all your life. STICK THAT IN YOUR PIPE AND SMOKE IT, BEVO! no, i don’t care he wasn’t offered by texas, it’s the fact he never even wanted to play for them that matters.
"We can't beat William and Mary!! Bill and Mary?? They put their pants on the same way we do!!"
A few things...
First off, Gabs play is difficult to watch, but I don’t think the announcers did well to lay into him like that. Any pass attempt was an adventure. And with his O-line, why wouldn’t it? From what I saw yesterday, it seemed like anytime he dropped back, the Falcons sent an extra man. And hell, if Gabs knows that there’s going to be pressure, why would he stay in there? Getting smoked with every passing attempt doesn’t make you a better QB. It makes you an patient. I’m sure all the exposure he’s gotten has not helped, nor has the idea that Jacksonville is on the short list to go LA. But leave the kid along, and get some better guys around him. Can’t help but think of Payton’s first year. Granted, I’m not suggesting that Gabs will give Jacksonville 12 years of awesome and become a cultural icon. But we’ll see.
Also, today is the final day that I sit at a desk in Columbia. I have spent ten and half years in Mid-MO, and have much to be thankful for. I’ve gotten a lot from here. An education, friends, a wife, my dog….but I’ve also gotten to know a few sports teams, and been able to really buy into them. And that’s because of all my internet friends here. Luckily, I’ve been able meet some of them: Bill, Beef, ZouDave, OKCTiger, GreenRipper, Galactahack, TigerBartender and RPT (who moved to Maryland for me). Though I’ll be posting on here for a long time, as I see if I can Fear the Turtle, I to thank you all for “listening” my senseless thoughts on Missouri sports. Peace.
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by Ausgiano on Dec 16, 2011 8:19 AM CST reply actions 3 recs
Glad I got a chance to meet you in person, doc.
Now go East (young man) and make us all proud!
MIZZOU-RAH!
why are you moving? Did you buy Rhode Island or something?
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Wife got a job in DC
I have a postdoc at Maryland College Park starting Jan 3. Been back and forth finishing up experiments.
Don’t ever do that. Not any fun, especially when your wife is with child.
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Best of luck in DC. I hope you will live near a metro stop.
I hate driving in DC.
Irish provenance of the schwa pronunciation of vowels in weakly stressed syllables -> Missoura
our house is about six blocks from Glenmont
But I’ll drive from there to CP, for a while at least.
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by Ausgiano on Dec 16, 2011 1:34 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
I can not imagine the difficulty in that transition.
Good luck! Especially with that up coming new born.
by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Dec 16, 2011 1:10 PM CST up reply actions
how have you been upholding fine mizzou traditions in maryland
from a desk in mid-mo? i’ve been misled. we all have.
"We can't beat William and Mary!! Bill and Mary?? They put their pants on the same way we do!!"
by threadkiller on Dec 16, 2011 8:35 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Love the wording of..
“A wife, my dog” instead of “My wife, a dog”.
Good luck out East!
by CapnCribbs on Dec 16, 2011 12:13 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
Ahem.
RPT (who moved toMarylandVirginia for me).
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Semantics.
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by Ausgiano on Dec 16, 2011 6:52 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Go Mountaineers?
The sleeper has awoken. . .awakened. . .he woke up.
by SleepyFloyd7 on Dec 16, 2011 11:21 PM CST up reply actions
hoo(s)?
"We can't beat William and Mary!! Bill and Mary?? They put their pants on the same way we do!!"
by threadkiller on Dec 16, 2011 11:37 PM CST up reply actions
Watching the '61 Oragne Bowl now that I have time
I want numbers on the helmets again. So old school and classy and badass. One side Tiger logo, one side number.
I love how everyone gets set at the same time, it just sets the right mentality. Wish more coaches would do this.
The refs were A TON more animated. Even though I usually hate when the ref’s try to steal the spotlight, they were awesome.
It’s very cool to see how the game hasn’t really changed all that much.
All the kickers were terrible
Ha!
End zone markings were just dust. Navy player kicked up a huge cloud of white after catching a touchdown.
by MizzouRugby on Dec 16, 2011 11:21 AM CST up reply actions
Haha abosltuely covered with white on one side
My favorite thing though was the over exaggerated refs. It was like a comedy routine
by MizzouRugby on Dec 16, 2011 11:30 AM CST up reply actions
My favorite unis.
By far, they just seemed so much more “collegiate” back then. Glad to hear our new unis are supposedly going to a more classic look!
Well from an undisclosed source on the team (haha)...
They are made of the same material as the pro combat unis, buuuuut the homes and aways have a more “traditional” look. He said he was hoping and hearing that the pro combat uni maybe an alternate, but he didn’t know for sure. We will have multiple helmets and alternates, but he didn’t see them all.
I wish I had friends on the team...
Any word on which shade of gold it was?
by MizzouRugby on Dec 16, 2011 11:44 AM CST up reply actions
Nah didn't say.
I’ve got a couple friends on the team, just because they went to school with me. Haha but no worries, they aren’t necessarily big contributors. One of my buddies Mark Hill has been getting a little more playing time recently at LG, though!
Hey any source is a good one!
That’s good! Well I’m glad we went classic instead of Oregon. That is a bit or relief. Multiple helmets is interesting too. How did they see them, was it a picture or an actual jersey?
Love that pro combat could be an alternate, lets call em the Stealth Package, or Special Forces
by MizzouRugby on Dec 16, 2011 11:55 AM CST up reply actions
Naw didn't see the helmets, but tried on one set of the unis.
I like the Stealth Package idea, the pro combat actually had good Missouri ties being designed after the stealth bomber. It’d be a crime not to bring it back!
Oh for sure
We can’t house the arguably most sophisticated thing our country has ever created and not be proud. Oh and they looked cool too ha.
That’s awesome they got to try them on. I freaked when I saw the Ashton Glaser had taken a picture of the new jersey, but it was really just that stupid eBay thing.
by MizzouRugby on Dec 16, 2011 12:03 PM CST up reply actions
Anyone here a regular at Arrowhead Pride?
Damn, the quality over there has absolutely plummeted this year. The editors are still great, but man there’s a fanpost for EVERYTHING. And fanshots are just like one-sentence comments. Makes me truly appreciate RMN.
It used to be fantastic.
A lot of knowledgeable fans and some good conversations. Now it’s just turned into an ESPN message board.
Make a fanpost about it!
/no don’t
by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Dec 16, 2011 1:12 PM CST up reply actions
Ha no, you missed it
ESPN had an article where they were very down on tebow and one commentator wrote something the effect of x>tebow. and people started filling in their own ideas. ESPN go pissed and started banning people for it, saying it was spam, but that just fueled the flames and it went on for days, literally entire comment sections were x>tebow jokes. Thats why I wrote that ha
_____ > Tebow thing. Nice, I seem to remember that now.
It went right over my head.
by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Dec 16, 2011 2:03 PM CST up reply actions
Did anybody else LOVE Flip's failed dunk attempt in the 2nd half?
I don’t know why but, even though he missed it, I loved it. It would have had to be a Top10 play had he made it. I’d give him an A for effort. Little guy’s got ups.
He tried one of those last year too.
He’s gonna land one of those someday, and Mizzou Arena will no longer have a roof.
Really great article about my new favorite Cardinal
Because I was there for Game 6. The triple he hit was 10 rows in front of me.
Thank you Mr. Freese, for the greatest WS ever
i just graduated from aTm and it
said i was WAY overqualified for the job.
"We can't beat William and Mary!! Bill and Mary?? They put their pants on the same way we do!!"
by threadkiller on Dec 16, 2011 1:14 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
Has anyone seen Patero's defense? The testimony came out today.
I lost all respect for Joe Paterno today. His testimony said that he “ordinarily would have called someone right away, but it was Saturday and didn’t want to interrupt their weekend.”
Fuck. That.
That is no excuse. That is a lazy piece of shit teenager’s excuse for not mowing the lawn, not a grown, powerful, and respected man’s response to allegations of child rape. He was a man who built his program off values. But he refused to call someone about it because it was a Saturday? What kind of man even thinks that is a defense? What a sad, pitiful life he must live if he cannot admit he allowed this to happen on his watch. It is fitting that his entire life, all of his accomplishments, has been tarnished by this. All those wins, all those speeches about doing things the right way, the promises to players and his players parents, and an entire university, they all will ring hollow forever, not because he made a mistake, but because we now know that he truly didn’t mean any of it. He was just as selfish and arrogant as any other head coach, and he decided his own legacy was more important than the lives of children. I am glad he has lived long enough to see the kingdom he thought he had built crash down around him, so he can see that he wasn’t as powerful, as important as he believed himself to be. That may be vindictive and cruel, but I am fine with that. This whole thing is disgusting.
by MizzouRugby on Dec 16, 2011 2:51 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
while i agree with all but a couple words of this,
how do you go on a rant that long without mentioning the “man” ultimately responsible for molesting those boys? he should be lit on fire on national tv, in my opinion.
"We can't beat William and Mary!! Bill and Mary?? They put their pants on the same way we do!!"
by threadkiller on Dec 16, 2011 2:57 PM CST up reply actions
I would say that because Paterno will only be tried in the court of public opinion
while Sandusky will face a real trial.
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Because we know Sandusky is a monster.
We never expected it from someone like Paterno. Sandusky will die alone in a cell, he will get what is due. But Joe will still have people apologizing for what he did, that somehow winning games cancels it out. I hope that with a defense like that, there will be fewer and fewer deifying the man.
I cannot say much about Sandusky. What am I going to say? Brag that I would kill him in the most cruel way possible? That does nothing. All I can say is that he needs to sit alone, in a room with no windows, until he dies.
i guess you're too young (again :-).
for a lot of years, sandusky was the premier assistant in the country, rumored to be in the running for a head coaching job every year. but he never left, presumably because of his loyalty to paterno. obviously, other reasons for his staying cross people’s minds, but whatever. sandusky was a big deal in his won right. he wasn’t just some no name scrub; his name carried a lot of weight in the world of college football. nobody expected this from him, either. blame anyone you want, he is the one ultimately responsible for the act. many were involved in the cover up, but don’t forget there would have been no cover up if not for sandusky.
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by threadkiller on Dec 16, 2011 3:18 PM CST up reply actions
seems like there is plenty of blame to go around
and no one is advocating for Sandusky to be let off the hook.
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you're a very hard man to amuse.
"We can't beat William and Mary!! Bill and Mary?? They put their pants on the same way we do!!"
by threadkiller on Dec 16, 2011 3:28 PM CST up reply actions
I wish I was like you, easily amused
find my nest of salt, everything’s my fault
I’ll take all the blame, aqua seafoam shame
sunburn freezerburn, choking on the ashes of her enemy
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by mizzou2396 on Dec 16, 2011 3:46 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
so you're apologizing, then? ;-)
when nirvana lyrics get posted, i’d like to buy more rec’s like wheel of fortune contestants buy vowels. REC’D!!
"We can't beat William and Mary!! Bill and Mary?? They put their pants on the same way we do!!"
by threadkiller on Dec 16, 2011 3:51 PM CST up reply actions
they were pretty amazing
I wonder what would have happened Cobain lived.
I have a theory that the funniest people we remember all died young. Belushi, Hedberg, Farley etc.
The funny guys that lived Chase, Sandler, Steve Martin all pretty much bottomed out.
The big advantage to ending your career at the top, is that’s how they will remember you, at the top.
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Tony Larussa and John Elway agree.
Never Forget Wolf Island, or pie. #AHAMF, it's vaguely sordid.
by Spider_Monkey on Dec 17, 2011 6:11 AM CST up reply actions
I didn't know Sandusky was so highly regarded before this
Yeah, I wasn’t trying to take away the blame from Sandusky. I just couldn’t believe that the man everyone thought was so great used something like that for a defense
by MizzouRugby on Dec 16, 2011 7:23 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
2396's comments kinda make me think
my thoughts were harshly worded toward you. ’twas not my intent; my apologies.
"We can't beat William and Mary!! Bill and Mary?? They put their pants on the same way we do!!"
by threadkiller on Dec 16, 2011 8:54 PM CST up reply actions
Ha no its ok
I don’t find geriatrics scary
Boom!
by MizzouRugby on Dec 16, 2011 9:07 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
and i find toddlers to be quite cute and amusing.
BAM.
"We can't beat William and Mary!! Bill and Mary?? They put their pants on the same way we do!!"
by threadkiller on Dec 16, 2011 9:22 PM CST up reply actions
And from one of Sandusky's lawyers...
A Carlisle attorney who has joined Jerry Sandusky’s defense team says the former Penn State assistant football coach may have showered with young boys because the children lacked basic hygiene skills.
http://www.abc27.com/story/16319215/carlise-attorney-hired-by-sandusky
Pathetic
But wait....
…Said lawyer has now clarified his statement.
That was a hypothetical answer to the question of what could motivate someone to shower with a youth.
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