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COLUMBIA MO - FEBRUARY 15:  Steve Moore #32 of the Missouri Tigers tries to pass a loose ball to Ricardo Ratliffe #10 as Jaye Crockett #30 of the Texas Tech Red Raiders defends during the game on February 15 2011 at Mizzou Arena in Columbia Missouri.  (Photo by Jamie Squire/Getty Images)

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I really do hope it works out for Andrew Jones.

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So ... I don't really have any problems with this week's Defensive Play of the Week selection below; it was a nice catch and a nice way to officially shut down perhaps Kansas' most dangerous drive of the night. But ... it was fourth down. That Kenji Jackson actually caught this pass instead of knocking it down cost Mizzou 36 yards of field position.

Or to put it another way, I disagree with this week's DPOW selection.

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I'm curious whether Charlie Strong listens to overtures from Texas A&M if they come his way (instead of Kevin Sumlin). Strong made a big point about being loyal to Louisville last year, since they were the ones to finally take a chance on him after he inexplicably went without head coaching offers for quite a long time. Now, Strong's stock is even higher; does he bolt to College Station if they offer him enough? Granted, this is all hypothetical, since apparently A&M is leaning toward Sumlin, but still.

  • Not Entirely Surprising
    SB Nation: Mike Sherman Fired As Texas A&M Head Coach; Kevin Sumlin On List Of Candidates
    Austin American-Statesman: Aggies fire coach Mike Sherman; Houston's Sumlin, Louisville's Strong possible candidates
  • A Few More Leach Links Because I Cannot Help Myself
    Smart Football: Mike Leach is the new coach at Washington State: Rejoice and be glad
    NY Times: Inside the Mind of Mike Leach
  • And A Manny Diaz Link Too
    Burnt Orange Nation: Manny Diaz More Than Just A Blitz-Happy Fool

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    MUtigers.com: Tigers Set for Kaufman-Brand Open
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    MUtigers.com: Tiger Men Finish Day One of Mizzou Invite
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by Ausgiano on Dec 2, 2011 6:23 AM CST up reply actions  

Coach answered Gervino's question on This Week in Mizzou Football regarding Kenji's pick on fourth down.

He made a good point that I hadn’t thought of at the time … that he was just making a play on the ball. He said something along the lines of .. yes ideally he would have just knocked the ball to the ground. But the receiver was right there and Kenji was off of his feet. So in making sure that the receiver couldn’t come up with the ball he secured the pass himself.

I’m still agree that he should have tried to knock it down, but I understand Coach’s logic.

I’m known as a bit of a dreamer!

by MizzouRah04 on Dec 2, 2011 6:33 AM CST reply actions  

I was listening to the play live on a car radio and following MU boards on phone

And it seemed obvious then that he should’ve knocked it down. I assumed that Kenji was in front of the receiver and grabbed the ball instead of batting it down. But when I got home and watched the play on DVR, I saw where the receiver was and how close he was to actually catching the ball. It was kind of a bang-bang play, so I don’t blame KJ for what he did. I agree with Pinkel.

Take what I say in a different way and it's easy to see that this is all confusion.

by SiberianKhatru on Dec 2, 2011 9:31 AM CST up reply actions  

yeah, I was going to make the same comment.

I first wondered why he didn’t knock it down but what Coach Pinkel said on the show makes sense. Why bat it around so the receiver still has a chance to come down with it for a TD?

There is one play though that I thought was a bad choice and that was when T.J. fielded a punt on about the 5 yard line on the western end of the field.

by M Krip on Dec 2, 2011 11:58 AM CST up reply actions  

I don't blame Kenji for pulling in the pick

but the smartest play would be to haul it in and then lose it in the fall, something I thought of immediately while watching on TV, but I’m not upset at Kenji for instinctually grabbing the pick.

by Transmogrified Tiger on Dec 2, 2011 12:10 PM CST up reply actions  

aTm will likely have 20+ million in buyout payments...

… between Sherman and the Big 12.

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by RPT on Dec 2, 2011 6:34 AM CST up reply actions  

nice

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by Spider_Monkey on Dec 2, 2011 11:17 PM CST up reply actions  

The CBS article was interesting

The first sentence made me feel like the article didn’t finish loading properly. I might be going out on a limb here but I think that “bought in” might, just might be used once in awhile by Haith, crew and team until we are all sold. Well, I bought in.
I find it interesting that in the comments section that the people get rated for reputation. It is also interesting that a Jayhawk would give such a nice compliment to our basketball team.

by McZou on Dec 2, 2011 6:42 AM CST via mobile reply actions  

That's funny

Most of the Beaker trolls I see claim that the players are coaching themselves and that Haith has nothing to do with Mizzou’s success and once Mizzou gets into conference play that they will get destroyed.

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by Gaknar on Dec 2, 2011 9:18 AM CST up reply actions  

I hate you Falcon_05

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by Spider_Monkey on Dec 2, 2011 11:18 PM CST up reply actions  

Good luck Andrew Jones!

I hope he does bring the rebounding we need to this team.

by McZou on Dec 2, 2011 6:51 AM CST via mobile reply actions   1 recs

If for nothing else...

It’s been nice to remember when Gage played in 01-02. While that team was loaded, they would hit lulls and get cold. Gage was a spark off the bench, and did the dirty work, hitting the floor a number of times, even for balls he had no chance at getting to.

by MUPete on Dec 2, 2011 7:55 AM CST via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

I hope

He makes the team and is helpful…but Fage might be an outlier….he was probably the best athletes on the floor.

by mpfische on Dec 2, 2011 9:37 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

I wonder

how well AJ can shoot. It would be nice if having him on the floor didn’t create a hole in the offense.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but I never remember Justin Gage being a threat offensively. I remember him basically as just a bruiser/hustle play guy.

"I try to shoot shots that I know are going to go in."
-Marcus Denmon

by ttt on Dec 2, 2011 10:10 AM CST up reply actions  

Really we would just need him to defend and scrap for boards

IF he could come in and play like Steve did last year. Grab a board or two, defend and steal some minutes, that’s would be great.

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by mizzou2396 on Dec 2, 2011 10:15 AM CST up reply actions  

yeah I have no expectations of him.

I’m just curious since he was really a basketball guy first.

"I try to shoot shots that I know are going to go in."
-Marcus Denmon

by ttt on Dec 2, 2011 10:21 AM CST up reply actions  

the last AJ we had on the floor was a beast.

Go AJII!

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by Spider_Monkey on Dec 2, 2011 11:20 PM CST up reply actions  

The poster who played against him would know for sure

but I think he was a post guy in HS from what I can gather. As an extra guy though, his strength balances his lack of height, because that’s normally the case when receivers try to play some basketball(Matt Trannon is my main point of reference compared to Gage for many of you).

by Transmogrified Tiger on Dec 2, 2011 10:17 AM CST up reply actions  

From what I remember

He was basically Steve Moore minus 4 inches of height. Nice touch around the rim, but he didn’t really operate more then 8 feet from the basket.

by mizzou_rah11 on Dec 2, 2011 2:41 PM CST up reply actions  

Rumor circulating....

… that Mack Brown retires this weekend. Just FYI.

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by Kpz1234 on Dec 2, 2011 8:32 AM CST reply actions  

A rumor...

… started by an AM talk radio host in Topeka and one that has been refuted by almost all legitimate sources, no?

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by RPT on Dec 2, 2011 8:39 AM CST up reply actions  

there are legitimate sources?

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by mizzou2396 on Dec 2, 2011 9:07 AM CST up reply actions  

I doubt it's real

but I heard a rumor(of similar reliability) that Brown had actually reached out to UNC about their position because he thought he was getting fired, which came out before this “Mack retiring” stuff. I want to see it just to see if UT and aTm fight to the death over their new coach.

by Transmogrified Tiger on Dec 2, 2011 10:05 AM CST up reply actions  

I think that would be awesome if true...

For the simple fact it makes it harder for ku to land a coach w/all of the openings around the nation.

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by 65 Toss Power Trap83 on Dec 2, 2011 8:47 AM CST up reply actions  

To be fair...

I get all of my Longhorn football news from AM Radio in Topeka. Who doesn’t, really?

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by RPT on Dec 2, 2011 9:44 AM CST up reply actions   2 recs

but but but

Twitter! Sources! Ahhhhh

Coming Home Newcastle!

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by Other Side of the Pillow on Dec 2, 2011 10:03 AM CST via iPhone app up reply actions  

I take the shoot down of rumors almost as serious as the rumors themselves.

Urban Meyer seemed to be in denial about his dealings with OSU until the ink dried. I am not criticizing the practice but I wouldn’t be surprised if Mack did the same thing.

I hope if he did leave, that Texas would throw a ton of money Saban’s way and lure him away from Bama. I think the idea of winning three NC’s for three different schools and the challenge to have a bronze statue built at yet another place, might be too hard for him to walk away from.

by M Krip on Dec 2, 2011 12:04 PM CST up reply actions  

Question on Andrew Jones and eligibility...

Assuming he makes the team and plays this year, would his eligibility be up at the end of this year or could he come back and play basketball next year? I’m not sure the circumstances around Paulus playing QB at Syracuse after his 4 yrs at Duke. When I was in Fayetteville, Marcus Monk came back for a few games after his football eligibility was up 2 yrs after he graduated. Not sure there would even be room next year, but a 6-5 kid focused on playing hard and crashing the boards is usually not a bad thing.

by AR_Vern on Dec 2, 2011 9:48 AM CST reply actions  

You have five years to complete your four years of eligibility

in each sport once you enroll. So, Jones would have this year and next year in basketball.

by AlaTiger on Dec 2, 2011 10:05 AM CST up reply actions  

I disagree with the "Not entirely surprising" bulletpoint

I was entirely surprised! Sherman built up this team into one that would have been competetive year 1 in the SEC. I think this is a major mistake.

If Sumlin wasn’t doing so well and available, I don’t think they would have dumped Sherman.

Sandy Eggos goin down.

by Chief TigerGator on Dec 2, 2011 10:00 AM CST reply actions  

Will they be competitive?

They lost 6 games this year, and were only .500 during Sherman’s tenure. They’ll have Arkansas, LSU, Bama, Auburn, Mizzou, and maybe one of UGA/SC on their conference slate, and they lose their QB, top RB and WR, and half their defensive starters. Next year could be rough.

by Transmogrified Tiger on Dec 2, 2011 10:11 AM CST up reply actions  

after watching the game on Thanksgiving

I just couldn’t see how they were going to keep him around. Texas was playing awful and pretty much had to be served that win on a silver platter.

How much more of that could the school and fanbase take?

by M Krip on Dec 2, 2011 12:06 PM CST up reply actions  

I wish I would have taken a chance on a bet at the beginning of the season

“Missouri will have more wins in the regular season that Texas A&M”

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by BigMOman on Dec 2, 2011 1:19 PM CST up reply actions  

interesting

the problem is limiting it to 7. I think I would put Portman dying of a lack of a will to live during child birth and remove the Ewok thing. 1st, a lack of a will to live, nothing medically wrong, she just decided she wanted her body to shut down. 2nd, it makes leia’s whole explanation of what her mother was like totally bogus.

I mean the Ewoks weren’t the best, but it didn’t make one of the scenes in the later movie just turn to nothing.

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by mizzou2396 on Dec 2, 2011 10:20 AM CST up reply actions  

I've never really had a problem with the Ewoks.

I mean, they were carnivores. And Jar Jar Binks makes them look like the Tusken Raiders by comparison.

by MU'97 on Dec 2, 2011 10:31 AM CST up reply actions  

Not to start this again :-)

And I’m not trying to defend plot holes in the Star Wars universe by any means, but Leia did grow up with a mother. Queen Breha Organa was the mother that she knew. I don’t believe (but I could be wrong) that she knew she had been adopted until Luke broke the news to her.

I’m known as a bit of a dreamer!

by MizzouRah04 on Dec 2, 2011 1:56 PM CST up reply actions  

exactly

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by mizzou2396 on Dec 2, 2011 2:06 PM CST up reply actions  

I must be misremembering then.

Did she actually mention “real” mother in the scene?

I’m known as a bit of a dreamer!

by MizzouRah04 on Dec 2, 2011 2:16 PM CST up reply actions  

No

But Luke asks if she remembers her “real” mother, which precipitates the conversation.

by Damnatio Memoriae on Dec 2, 2011 2:27 PM CST up reply actions  

Admitedly it's been a while since I have watched Return of the Jedi so I apologize.

I received the nine disk Blu Ray set for my birthday and RotJ is the only one I haven’t watched of the set so far. It’s on the docket for this weekend … so I’ll make a point to watch for this.

I’m known as a bit of a dreamer!

by MizzouRah04 on Dec 2, 2011 2:32 PM CST up reply actions  

Nothing to apologize for here

You are most likely a normal, well-adjusted human being who can’t recite Star Wars dialogue from memory. I have no such problems.

by Damnatio Memoriae on Dec 2, 2011 2:41 PM CST up reply actions  

agreed.

people shouldn’t care so much and shouldn’t know so much about them. After the prequels, I almost wish I didn’t know or care about the original 3.

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by mizzou2396 on Dec 2, 2011 2:46 PM CST up reply actions  

Not to one up you...

But even my Film Professor used these to show how bad the prequels were..

Phantom Menace

Attack of the Clones

Revenge of the Sith

Very NSFW, and the it can get extremely weird at times, but if you sit through it, he really shows how badly made these movies are, from plot, to how the movie was shot, everything.

by MizzouRugby on Dec 2, 2011 10:31 AM CST up reply actions  

I watched the one on Phantom.

He really did hit all of the stuff. I also really liked that he criticized the we can run really fast aspect. It always bothered me that he couldn’t get through the red beams to help. Plus, why would that system be set up?

Let’s have a bunch of walls that open and close in down this hall way.
Why?
I dunno, it would look cool?

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by mizzou2396 on Dec 2, 2011 10:39 AM CST up reply actions  

Exactly.

My personal favorite is when he takes apart how god-awful Lucas is a cinematography, which I think is in the third one? I’m not sure. But it’s the one where he talks about A and B camera.

I really recomend watching these, even though they can get uncomfortably weird in parts.

by MizzouRugby on Dec 2, 2011 11:01 AM CST up reply actions  

This.

I’d show my kids these reviews before I’d ever show them the blasphemies they’re reviewing.

Desperate losers kidnapping women… that I can explain.

by galactahack on Dec 2, 2011 12:15 PM CST up reply actions  

No one upping

Just thought those who are passionate would have a field day. And I appear to have been correct. ;-)

I’ve never watched the prequels, because I knew they’d be terrible. Nor have I seen the doctored original trilogy. I saw old copies of the originals on VHS.

by AlaTiger on Dec 2, 2011 4:20 PM CST up reply actions  

well that is amazing

very well done.

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by mizzou2396 on Dec 2, 2011 4:31 PM CST up reply actions  

The redoctored ones are terrible...

Highlights

CGI everywhere.

Luke sees Hayden Christensen, not random old man.

Greedo shoots first.

I hope someday, some rich nerd buys the film rights to star wars, burns the master copy of all three prequels, and does it over again.

by MizzouRugby on Dec 2, 2011 4:31 PM CST up reply actions  

Honestly, my biggest complaint was the midiclorians.

Don’t try to turn your religion into science. It kind of ruins it.

This is followed closely by the addition of Greedo shooting first. That scene basically established Han as a scoundrel, which made him coming back at the end even better.

The gaping plot holes, horrific acting and the occasional over-reliance on special effects and computer animation don’t really bother me. Let’s face it, Mark Hamill wasn’t going to win any Oscars either, and special effects always look terrible in hindsight because we get used to the newer technology.

by Damnatio Memoriae on Dec 2, 2011 10:45 AM CST up reply actions  

Mark Hamill wasn't winning any Oscars

but at least he was a real character. Through 3 movies we watched him go from a farm boy with big dreams to a Jedi staring down the Emperor. We watched him develop friendships. Learn about his past.

In the prequels, there were characters and they did stuff. But Obi-Won didn’t change. Annikan got older and really didn’t change, as a character. He was just a whiny kid from the start to finish. Capped off with him yelling Nooooo at the end of Revenge. One of the most emotionless villains in cinematic history (right up until the very end) is yelling out?

I can’t do this. It’s Friday and I’m going to enjoy it. I can’t think about those stupid things.

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by mizzou2396 on Dec 2, 2011 10:50 AM CST up reply actions  

I honestly think...

…we’d have viewed Episodes II and III a little differently if they had cast a good actor as Anakin. Hayden Christensen was so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so awful in that role. Someone with charisma and talent would have made that watchable. The writing wouldn’t have been any better (the romance scenes would have been almost as painful), but they would have been watchable.

(And I still think III was a little watchable.)

by Bill C. on Dec 2, 2011 10:55 AM CST up reply actions  

maybe, but only if that actor would have said at some point

“hey, George, uh, see. The deal is, in A New Hope, Obi-Wan looked at Anakin as a friend. Because you got such a good actor, you can actually see pain in his eyes when he tells look about how Vader killed him. But this whole movie you just have me complaining about how bad of a person he is. And he doesn’t seem to want to be my friend, mostly because I second guess him in front of people and constantly disobey every single thing that he says. "

“I guess, George, maybe we can tone down the foreshadowing that I’m going to turn to the dark side. I’m pretty sure your audience knows it. And, if they don’t know it, maybe it would be cool to surprise them. You know, like you did with Vader being Luke’s father? So maybe me and Obi-Won could spend this movie really chummy. Then something changes, like I find out about my mom. And that starts the fissure. It would be cool because the audience would see a character change. Instead of you just telling the audience we were friends and not doing anything to back that up”

“What’s that? You insisted on shooting the Han Solo scene again so that Harrison Ford would say ‘I love you too?’ Oh, well then, uh, never mind.”

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by mizzou2396 on Dec 2, 2011 11:00 AM CST up reply actions  

yeah

when the movie happened, it was written in the script as “I love you too.” Ford said that Han wouldn’t say that so he changed the script.

At least Ford acknowledges that this was a great line. He and director Irvin Kershner fought Lucas for it. "Film is a collaborative process. I’m happy that I was able to make a small contribution. It didn’t go down so well with George at the time. He would have been a lot happier with the scripted line, which is ‘I love you, too,’ but I felt, and Kersh agreed, that there was the opportunity for a more character ’smelling’ moment. So we shot that among other versions. We did shoot ‘I love you, too,’ but when Kersh presented his cut, he used the line ‘I know.’ George said, ‘That’s gonna get a laugh. That’s not good.’ Kersh and I both said, ‘It could be a good laugh at that moment.’

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by mizzou2396 on Dec 2, 2011 11:11 AM CST up reply actions  

I did not know that

That would have been awful. That’s another scene that makes Han awesome.

by Damnatio Memoriae on Dec 2, 2011 11:14 AM CST up reply actions  

So much of the originals...

Depend entirely on people covering Lucas’ weaknesses. Such as dialogue and direction. Ford worked a great deal with Hamill to get comic timing down. No doubt, Lucas had great vision, but he is by no means a complete film-maker.

The success of the originals, unfortunately, meant Lucas had total control over the latter prequels.

by galactahack on Dec 2, 2011 12:24 PM CST up reply actions  

yeah, but ... he also took Samuel L. Jackson

who is a hell of an actor, especially playing angry roles, and made him the most boring conciliatory Jedi ever.

by jschooltiger on Dec 2, 2011 11:46 AM CST up reply actions  

I think a lot of that was the writing.

You can only do so much with such stiff lines.

by Babbalynski on Dec 2, 2011 11:48 AM CST up reply actions  

That's what I was getting at

The Red Letter Media stuff linked above is actually a much better critique than the “seven deadly sins” thing.

by jschooltiger on Dec 2, 2011 11:51 AM CST up reply actions  

I actually don't like Samuel L Jackson.

Maybe it’s because he’s in 95% of the movies ever made.

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by DnrW on Dec 2, 2011 11:49 AM CST up reply actions  

I liked him best in Pulp Fiction...

Maybe because in so many other movies, he’s the standout badass, and comes off as one-dimensional. In PF, he’s surrounded by other killers, and displays nuance and depth. He’s got his scary badass moments, but can also be casual, and introspective.

by galactahack on Dec 2, 2011 12:26 PM CST up reply actions  

I loved him in Pulp Fiction.

Everything else he has done just kind of blends together for me. Nondescript.

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by DnrW on Dec 2, 2011 12:51 PM CST up reply actions  

you think water moves fast? You should see ice!

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by mizzou2396 on Dec 2, 2011 1:06 PM CST up reply actions  

I also appreciate his beer.

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by Ausgiano on Dec 2, 2011 2:33 PM CST up reply actions  

Hold on to your butts.

I WAS IN MOTHER#@%*ING JURASSIC PARK!

by Team on Dec 2, 2011 3:52 PM CST up reply actions  

not only was he in it

but if he wouldn’t have suggested shutting the power down, they could have avoided fighting with the raptors, which turned out to be way worse than anything else.

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by mizzou2396 on Dec 2, 2011 4:07 PM CST up reply actions  

I've found that thinking about stupid things

And doing stupid things are some of the best ways to enjoy a Friday.

I agree though, the lack of character development was a major problem in the prequels. For a set of films that was essentially supposed to show how a child who started out just like Luke ended up becoming Darth Vader, his character development went something like this: whiny child, whiny child, whiny child, Darth Vader.

I think everyone needs some editorial oversight. If you ever watch some of the “making of” featurettes about the original trilogy, it went through a looong gestation period before it became a film, because Lucas had to sell studios on the idea it could make money. With the prequels, everyone knew it would do business, and Lucas didn’t have to compromise at all, which is rarely turns out well.

by Damnatio Memoriae on Dec 2, 2011 11:00 AM CST up reply actions  

This is a fun question, from the links I had above.

Picture Han. Now describe his personality. Easy right? Scoundrel, rebel, but he has a heart.

Now. Describe Qui-Gon. No? Jar-Jar? Impossible you say? Surely Padme has a personality? No? Ok here is any easy one. Obi-Wan (prequel only).

by MizzouRugby on Dec 2, 2011 11:07 AM CST up reply actions  

Answer is still no distinct personality.

by MizzouRugby on Dec 2, 2011 11:08 AM CST up reply actions  

Hard for me to say

I’ve probably seen the original trilogy probably over a hundred times, starting when I was really little. My dad says it was the only time after I learned to talk that he could shut me up for two hours. I’ve maybe seen the prequels a handful of times, maybe five times each.

But based on what I recall, I can’t disagree. Like I said, I think with the original trilogy, the story went through a long development period, and as it got refined the characters developed long histories that helped create a bigger world. The prequels just felt shallow and slapped together.

by Damnatio Memoriae on Dec 2, 2011 11:18 AM CST up reply actions  

Just watch the links.

I agree that the prequels were rushed, but that was Lucas’ choice. Everything was his choice, and we all know it.

by MizzouRugby on Dec 2, 2011 11:22 AM CST up reply actions  

Ya, they are definetlely NSFW

And I can’t warn you enough about the weird parts. They are uncomfortable, but the points he make are worth sitting through it

by MizzouRugby on Dec 2, 2011 11:46 AM CST up reply actions  

You guys keep saying there are weird parts?

What do you mean? Does he continue to review the movies but with a gag? Does the camera pan uncomfortably close?

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by DnrW on Dec 2, 2011 11:50 AM CST up reply actions  

there's a subplot where he killed his ex-wife

and keeps ladies chained in the basement. I think he’s being metacritical about the traditional critiques of movie criticism/blogging, but it gets odd.

by jschooltiger on Dec 2, 2011 11:51 AM CST up reply actions  

Haha

Now I’m excited. I live for the weird parts.

by Damnatio Memoriae on Dec 2, 2011 11:51 AM CST up reply actions  

as do I

and let me tell you, they are amazing.

You have to be a person who believes in the Rickey Gervais social contract of comedy theory – nothing in comedy is out of bounds as long as the audience is appropriate. The example he uses is, I can tell a pedophile joke to a person I know isn’t a pedophile, but I wouldn’t tell the same joke to a pedophile.

Busting Bill C since September 19, 2011 10:19 CST, 8:19 PDT.

by mizzou2396 on Dec 2, 2011 1:05 PM CST up reply actions  

me as well

there are certainly those who disagree, who think there are certain subjects that should just never be touched on by comedy. I don’t think their position is unreasonable, just not the position I support. If you take the position that some stuff shouldn’t ever be joked about, the weird parts will probably be closer to offensive than funny.

Busting Bill C since September 19, 2011 10:19 CST, 8:19 PDT.

by mizzou2396 on Dec 2, 2011 1:24 PM CST up reply actions  

but what about the victim of a pedophile?

"I try to shoot shots that I know are going to go in."
-Marcus Denmon

by ttt on Dec 2, 2011 1:29 PM CST up reply actions  

well, if you can't laugh at yourself . . .

Busting Bill C since September 19, 2011 10:19 CST, 8:19 PDT.

by mizzou2396 on Dec 2, 2011 2:35 PM CST up reply actions  

I no way am I trying to defend the prequels as a whole (because they are largely terrible)

but I think the midichlorian thing is a little blown out of proportion. If the explanation is that midichlorians in your blood make you strong in the force, then yes, that’s dumb. But I think the more rational explanation is that having large numbers of midichlorians in your blood is a sign that you are strong in the force. It doesn’t explain the force, it only helps the Jedi Order determine if someone is likely to be able to be a Jedi. Between the prequels and the original trilogy, it makes sense that this technology has been lost or hidden as the Jedi Order is eliminated and Obi-wan and Yoda go into hiding. That’s why it would never come up in the originals.

by the_k on Dec 2, 2011 2:02 PM CST up reply actions  

I mean that could work in a literal sense

But the Force was supposed to be something special, something you learn and feel and all that stuff. Not a level to be counted and read with a meter. I think that is the gripe.

by MizzouRugby on Dec 2, 2011 2:05 PM CST up reply actions  

Exactly

Because if it could be read with a meter, all that would matter is that it was…

by Damnatio Memoriae on Dec 2, 2011 2:31 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

My favorite childhood cartoon

Being brought up while talking about star wars…

Awesome afternoon thread

by MizzouRugby on Dec 2, 2011 3:01 PM CST up reply actions  

The dork is strong with this one.

I was always partial to Gundam Wing though.

by Damnatio Memoriae on Dec 2, 2011 3:03 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

COMPLETELY FORGOT ABOUT THAT ONE

They were tied.

If you want some comedy, check out DBZ Abridged by Team Fourstar. Good stuff

Gundam Wing was pure awesome though, when they got around to fighting. The plot was a little too deep for me at the time. But I remember watching Endless Waltz and begging my mom to buy me a model of the angel winged Gundam.

by MizzouRugby on Dec 2, 2011 3:28 PM CST up reply actions  

If I remember correctly

Gundam Wing and DBZ were on back-to-back in the afternoon on Cartoon Network. I have a hard time thinking of one without thinking of the other.

I’ll have to check that out. One more thing to do this weekend.

Endless Waltz was awesome, I may have to see if I can pick up a copy of that somewhere.

by Damnatio Memoriae on Dec 2, 2011 3:39 PM CST up reply actions  

Check the interwebs for the movie. Its free

That’s where I watched them when I was little, also used to watch the original ThunderCats too.

by MizzouRugby on Dec 2, 2011 4:15 PM CST up reply actions  

Loved me some DBZ.

Really disliked DBGT (The couple of episodes i saw, that is)

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by DnrW on Dec 2, 2011 3:07 PM CST up reply actions  

Except

“Size matters not. Look at me. Judge me by my size, do you? Hmm? Hmm. And well you should not. For my ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is. Life creates it, makes it grow. Its energy surrounds us and binds us. Luminous beings are we, not this crude matter. You must feel the Force around you; here, between you, me, the tree, the rock, everywhere, yes. Even between the land and the ship”

So if we aren’t this crude matter and the force doesn’t care about this crude matter, why can they measure it’s strength through crude matter?

I don’t think the midichlorian thing was the dumbest thing they did. I think it’s probably in the top 10, but it’s like Lucas didn’t watch the 1st 3. He should have just had Timothy Zahn write the prequels.

Busting Bill C since September 19, 2011 10:19 CST, 8:19 PDT.

by mizzou2396 on Dec 2, 2011 2:12 PM CST up reply actions  

I am also of this view.

It would have been better to not even make the midichlorian thing up! However, I can rationalize it as a marker for potential in manipulating the force.

If one doesn’t train in the Jedi way, you aren’t able to feel the Force and use it.

I rationalize it similar to normal epigenetics. You could have a gene polymorphism(more likely more than one in this example) that allows your blood cells after a level of stress to attain a higher overall number than normal.

But say you don’t continue to expose yourself to this stress, or you don’t train, or never notice anything vs. other people…then nothing really happens and your VO2 output never goes beyond normal distribution.

On the other hand you do start exposeing yourself to this stress, over and over, and eventually you can become an outlier of physical output directly linked to that overall higher level of red blood cells.

This is how I can accept (to an extent) the midichlorians….also the idea that lichian and other “things” have smaller forms of life in them that help with overall survival…

National Geographic.
Discovery Channe.l
Science Channel.
ect. ect. ect. Nerd stuff.

by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Dec 2, 2011 2:24 PM CST up reply actions  

Don't tell my wife, but damn! I love this senior group in bball.

After seeing their career numbers up to this point, who needs Viagra? (Kidding) No matter what happens, I can’t wait to be there and cheer for these guys and the end of this season. (Next year for Bowers too)

by McZou on Dec 2, 2011 10:53 AM CST via mobile reply actions  

hahahaha

@danbeebe glad i could unseat #sheep RT @theebears: @DanBeebe #aggietears is trending in College Station literally, not figuratively

by Transmogrified Tiger on Dec 2, 2011 11:21 AM CST up reply actions  

Talked to Andrew on Wednesday...

he seemed pretty excited about the prospect of hoopin’

by CEW on Dec 2, 2011 11:01 AM CST reply actions  

For anyone who hasn't seen it

Luke Winn’s Power Rankings have Mizzou 7th and he discusses Kim’s shooting style.

"I try to shoot shots that I know are going to go in."
-Marcus Denmon

by ttt on Dec 2, 2011 11:23 AM CST reply actions  

Well

We haven’t played OU, Nebraska, or UT(’til this year) in November since before 2007.

/pessimist

OTOH, it would be interesting to look at the combined records (excluding the MU result) of teams by month. It seems like our toughest conference games are always in October.

"I have CDO. It's like OCD, but the letters are in alphabetical order. Like they should be."

by BigMOman on Dec 2, 2011 1:26 PM CST up reply actions  

So, I am taking my family to the game tonight.

I know this sounds bad but it will be the first time I’ve been to a basketball game since I was in school and Peeler was a freshman. We live about an hour away so its not the easiest thing to get there on time during a weeknight but its doable for us tonight.

We made the choice to invest in football season tickets as that is our big love but Kim English’s comments did stir some guilt in me about sitting at home and watching the games on TV especially on nights like this when tickets are cheap, available and the trip can be made. I feel the same way about the softball games. I love the atmosphere and its a great place to take my wife and young child plus the price for tickets are really low and we’ll be going to more of those next Spring.

I just looked up the parking map at mizzougameday.com and wow, at the distance for the General Parking. I saw some of the comments criticizing the distances in earlier blog entrys in regards to how we can better fill the arena for these lesser named non conference games and can see how some people would view those distances as a big impediment in bad weather. For the Tiger women games, is the general parking scenario the same?

Anyways, I am excited to be going to my first basketball game since the late 80’s and my very first in Mizzou Arena. I am going to try to do it more this winter but imagine it might be hard to get single game tickets once conference play starts.

by M Krip on Dec 2, 2011 1:09 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

Have fun

I would have stuck the kids in the car tonight if not for our own burgeoning basketball star has a tournament this weekend.

by tigers and chiefs fan on Dec 2, 2011 1:15 PM CST up reply actions  

Good on ya!

I was similarly lost in the woods, but in the last few years have recently begun regularly attending non-con games (having a job helps justify the cost of about 90 minutes of usually uncompetitive bball, but hey, it’s still cool to see the team in person).
Anyway have fun. And oh, be sure to try the nachos.

"I try to shoot shots that I know are going to go in."
-Marcus Denmon

by ttt on Dec 2, 2011 1:21 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

they're a "steal"

I could see myself enjoying an array of basketball themed nacho options.

"I try to shoot shots that I know are going to go in."
-Marcus Denmon

by ttt on Dec 2, 2011 2:07 PM CST up reply actions  

Good for you!

I really hope this big push by the players and local media continues to get fans to come out to the games. I fully understand the reasoning for not making it out, but I think if we as a fanbase start to show greater support, even in non-con games, they will begin to make accomodations (parking mostly). I’m a student so I have no excuse for missing a game, and I hope our student section begins to pick it up. It’s been pathetic this year, and our team deserves much better. I’ll be there tonight!

by CapnCribbs on Dec 2, 2011 1:53 PM CST up reply actions  

Never really thought about that point of it.

Why would the university cater to the 2000 fans that show up to the games? If it was 15,000 (or whatever capacity is), they might consider it.

That walk isn’t fun though. I hope the facility improvements involve a trolley system.

Top Heavy Beer Drinker

by DnrW on Dec 2, 2011 2:00 PM CST up reply actions  

haha, I actually did want to see the PAC game as well as the MAC championship, well at least the first quarter of the PAC CG.

But, I have a nice opportunity to get out and go to the game tonight and I’d love to take my wife and little one to a new venue. We also are planning to road trip to Miami (OH) next year to watch the football team on the road.

by M Krip on Dec 2, 2011 2:10 PM CST up reply actions  

That I recall

they run a shuttle from Reactor field to the door (well, I think they do). Or the Art Building parking (Lot H for football, I believe).

What channel is it on? Going to be watching on the computer while we tree it up tonight.

Upholding fine Mizzou traditions in Maryland.
MvP, RoC official Nemesis

by Ausgiano on Dec 2, 2011 2:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Here's your brain eating quote of the day:

Brought to you by Turfmans’ Earwig line of Chirstmas Earwigs.

If it’s not in your head; it will be.

It’s Begining to look a lot like Chirstmas.

Everywhere you go.

by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Dec 2, 2011 2:28 PM CST up reply actions  

Hey, guess what!

NO ONE LIKES YOU!

Upholding fine Mizzou traditions in Maryland.
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by Ausgiano on Dec 2, 2011 2:31 PM CST up reply actions  

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