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Mizzou Basketball: Taking A Quick Look Ahead To 2012-13

ATLANTA, GA - MARCH 10:  Earnest Ross #33 of the Auburn Tigers shoots against Trey Thompkins #33 of the Georgia Bulldogs during the the first round of the SEC Men's Basketball Tournament at the Georgia Dome on March 10, 2011 in Atlanta, Georgia.  (Photo by Kevin C. Cox/Getty Images)

Mizzou is 11-0, ranked in the top ten, and deep in preparation for Thursday night's Braggin' Rights contest. With so much to play for in the present tense, there is really no need to focus too much on the future. But Jabari Brown's commitment yesterday (the university made his transfer official this morning) more or less finalized the 2012-13 roster, and with so much turnover from this year to next year, it is worth hitting the pause button for a moment and looking ahead, if just for one post.

Now, things may not be completely finalized. The rumor is that Pitt transfer Khem Birch, a fellow five-star recruit in the 2011 class, may land in Columbia, too. If he were to join the squad, that means somebody currently associated with the program would have to leave. Either Shawn Smith, who committed to Mizzou but didn't sign (allegedly due to academics), would have to be discarded, or one of the current players would have to transfer. (The only possible candidate would have to be Kadeem Green, right? Surely the Phil Pressey transfer concerns have more than dissipated at this point.) I'll include him below, just in case.

In a given year, you typically say goodbye to three or four seniors (or fewer) and welcome as many newcomers. For Missouri, the change will be severe. Mizzou will say goodbye to one of its most memorable groups of seniors -- Marcus Denmon, Kim English, Ricardo Ratliffe, Matt Pressey, Steve Moore and permanent walk-on Jarrett Sutton -- and face a major rebuilding project; only three regulars (Mike Dixon, Phil Pressey, Kadeem Green) will play on the 2012-13 squad. Only, with the odd compilation of talent Frank Haith has put together, hope isn't necessarily lost. Earnest Ross, Auburn's leading scorer in 2010-11 will enter the fray, as will former Pepperdine star Keion Bell. Jabari Brown will join the squad after the first semester (and evidently Khem Birch might join him). Tony Criswell, who played at UAB for one year before transferring to Independence C.C., has signed as well. And, of course, the Party Starter himself, Laurence Bowers, will return.

So that's either eight or nine players with Division I basketball experience, even if only three are currently dressing out in black and gold. Throw in either four or five freshmen (depending on the status of Shawn Smith), and you've got an interesting, talented team with tons of unknowns.

While I know all of the moves that have taken place, I was struggling to keep things straight without listing them out. So after the jump, we'll look at all of next year's players; where there is relevant D1 experience to note, stats are listed.

Star-divide

(Note: I used Keion Bell's 2009-10 stats instead of 2010-11, basically, because I'm lazy. To get the AdjGS points you all know and love, you need team stats, and since Bell left the team midway through the season last year, their full-season stats only partially involved him. Last year's stats were much less favorable to Bell, so keep that in mind. And, of course, keep in mind that he played in the West Coast Conference. Because Birch and Brown played so few games, however, I was able to pull the limited team stats from their games. And to make the sample size a little larger, I included two exhibition games in Brown's stats. Yadda yadda yadda ... just keep in mind that Bell's and Brown's stats below might be better than they should be expected to produce here. This paragraph got much longer than intended. Moving along.)

Missouri (2012-13)

Player Season AdjGS*/
Gm
GmSc/
Min
Line
Phil Pressey (5'10, 175, Jr.)
2011-12
10.4
0.36
28.9 MPG, 8.6 PPG (36% FG), 6.0 APG, 3.3 RPG, 2.3 SPG, 1.8 TOPG
Mike Dixon (6'1, 185, Sr.)
2011-12
11.8
0.45
26.5 MPG, 12.6 PPG (44% FG), 3.2 APG, 2.4 RPG, 2.3 SPG, 1.5 TOPG
Laurence Bowers (6'8, 210, Sr.)
2010-11
13.2
0.53
24.8 MPG, 11.6 PPG (53% FG), 6.1 RPG, 1.8 BPG, 1.4 APG, 1.1 SPG, 1.4 TOPG
Earnest Ross (6'5, 222, Jr.)
2010-11
14.7
0.46
31.8 MPG, 13.1 PPG (39% FG), 6.6 RPG, 2.1 APG, 1.4 SPG, 2.3 TOPG
Khem Birch (6'9, 220, So.)
2011-12
6.0
0.40
15.0 MPG, 4.4 PPG (57% FG), 5.0 RPG, 1.9 BPG
Keion Bell (6'3, 200, Sr.)
2009-10
15.4
0.49
31.5 MPG, 18.5 PPG (43% FG), 5.1 RPG, 3.2 APG, 1.3 SPG, 3.9 TOPG
Jabari Brown (6'4, 205, So.)
2011-12
3.0
0.13
23.8 MPG, 9.5 PPG (29% FG), 4.5 RPG, 1.8 APG, 4.8 TOPG
Kadeem Green (6'8, 210, So.)
2011-12
3.2
0.28
11.5 MPG, 3.3 PPG (71% FG), 3.4 RPG
Tony Criswell (6'8, 230, Jr.)
2010-11
3.5
0.25
14.2 MPG, 3.2 PPG (54% FG), 3.6 RPG
Stefan Jancovic (6'11, 225, Fr.)




Ryan Rosburg (6'10, 240, Fr.)




Dominique Bull (6'3, 215, Fr.)




Negus Webster-Chan (6'7, 195, Fr.)




Shawn Smith (6'3, 175, Fr.)




* AdjGS = a take-off of the Game Score metric (definition here) accepted by a lot of basketball stat nerds. It redistributes a team's points based not only on points scored, but also by giving credit for assists, rebounds (offensive & defensive), steals, blocks, turnovers and fouls. It is a stat intended to determine who had the biggest overall impact on the game itself, instead of just how many balls a player put through a basket.

  • Highest Usage%: Bell (35%), Brown (31%), Dixon (24%), Ross (24%)
  • Highest Floor%: Bowers (45%), Green (45%), Pressey (43%), Dixon (43%)
  • Highest %Pass: Pressey (75%), Dixon (57%), Bell (50%), Criswell (50%)
  • Highest %Shoot: Birch (75%), Bowers (41%), Ross (41%), Bell (39%)
  • Highest %Fouled: Green (31%), Bowers (14%), Dixon (10%), Pressey/Birch (6%)
  • Highest %T/O: Brown (19%), Green (12%), Criswell (12%), Bell (10%)

Some thoughts:

  • One of this team's strengths has been the general sharing vibe. Nobody has a Usage Rate higher than 25% -- Denmon is 25%, Dixon 24%, English 23%, Ratliffe 23%. Denmon is the leader, but many different people can occupy quality possessions, and nobody does it too much. Two of next year's newcomers, Bell and Brown, had Usage Rates over 30%. With Phil Pressey running the point, that isn't going to happen. Bell and Brown could be two cogs of a rather hellacious second string, but how they fit in with Mizzou's primary returnees could be interesting. Maybe it will work out fine (especially after both of them have spent a year practicing with the team), but it is a question mark until proven otherwise.
  • On the other hand, it is difficult to imagine Ross not fitting in rather well. He is a good rebounder and a reasonably decent shooter, and even as Auburn's leading scorer last year, his usage rate was under 25%. He seems to have worked well within the flow of an offense, even though he was on a bad Auburn team, on which he probably could have taken as many shots as he wanted.
  • If Birch does not transfer to Mizzou, this is going to be a team quite thin on experienced size. (And even if he does transfer here, he isn't very experienced, and he wouldn't play until the fall semester ends.) Jancovic and Rosburg both provide nice size, but they will be freshmen; at best, only one of them will probably be ready to log solid minutes right out of the gates. So Mizzou will likely rolling out a four-guard lineup -- either by choice or by necessity -- quite a bit, especially early in the season. (Though with the success of this year's four-guard sets, it will be interesting to see how much of a permanent fixture it becomes with this team.)
  • In a four-guard set, I'm curious who fills which spot. You figure Ross and Webster-Chan will be serious candidates for the Kimmeh-esque No. 4 spot, but it wouldn't surprise me if someone more defense-oriented lines up as the No. 3 alongside Dixon and Pressey. I have no idea what Brown's defensive reputation is (Bell's either), but supposedly that is Dominique Bull's strength. If he is up to speed on that side of the ball, he might be able to pretty quickly play a Matt Pressey-esque role, playing solid defense and moving the ball while others shoulder the scoring load.
  • Khem Birch averaged 1.9 blocks in just 15 minutes per game at Pitt. I'm excited about this team without him, but ... let's just say that he would rather quickly be a welcome defensive presence.
  • Even without Birch, this team will have more flexibility, able to go with four guards for long stretches, or with a rather large lineup with Ross at the 3, Bowers at the 4, and either Rosburg or Jancovic at the 5.

Anyway, back to your regularly-scheduled drooling over 2011-12.

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Debbie Downer

I am more concerned than you, BillC, re: Flip’s coming offseason. The success he’s having has lessened it a tad bit, but I still wonder if staying here w/ Matt was kind of a “requirement” of sorts, but he’s still taking uncle xcma and cuz majr’s phone calls on the side? 2 years, even after sitting 1, is a lot of bball. To put it in roundtable terms: on a scale from “bad penny” to “extra cash in my pocket” I’d put me at about “has anyone seen my phone”.

Bet me!

by TigerBartender on Dec 20, 2011 1:34 PM CST via iPhone app reply actions  

I'm not at all worried about that

He has publicly complained about getting yanked too quickly and not getting into the flow. He appears much happier this year than last.

by AlaTiger on Dec 20, 2011 1:37 PM CST up reply actions  

my impression is the same.

based on the same interviews as you I’m sure. But, sitting out a year seems like a steep price. Plus, it seems like none of the players from last year’s team have a great impression of xCMA. I’m hoping the prevailing attitude has rubbed off on Phil.

"I try to shoot shots that I know are going to go in."
-Marcus Denmon

by ttt on Dec 20, 2011 2:08 PM CST up reply actions  

When you transfer in conference you have to sit out 2 years

Now if he he transfers this offseason (which I don’t really thing will happen) will we be considered a Big 12 school or an SEC school?

by Team on Dec 20, 2011 1:58 PM CST up reply actions  

I think the plan was we join on July 1, 2012

so my guess (and it is only a guess) is that we are considered Big 12 until July 1, 2012.

I don’t worry about him transferring at all though. Maybe that’s foolish, but I think he and this staff have a good relationship. I think Haith trust Flip to run this offense and Flip is happy running a high octane offense.

Busting Bill C since September 19, 2011 10:19 CST, 8:19 PDT.

by mizzou2396 on Dec 20, 2011 2:01 PM CST up reply actions  

yes, that too.

Flip is doing what he was put on this earth to do. It wouldn’t shock me if he transferred, but I would be fairly surprised.

"I try to shoot shots that I know are going to go in."
-Marcus Denmon

by ttt on Dec 20, 2011 2:11 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm with you

Phil is a blooming star on the college basketball scene. His play is worthy of 25+ minutes a game already, most of which includes the ball in his hands. The press knows he’s becoming a star, and Haith knows it too. He’ll be the focal point of the team and its press campaigns the next two seasons. People like that rarely transfer…they usually leave early for the NBA. And since Phil is a 5’10" point guard, that’s a long, long shot.

I’m quite confident and extremely happy that we are likely to have Flip in black and gold for four years.

If anyone is likely to transfer, I agree with Bill that it’s Green…but I really don’t want that to happen. Most big men take time to progress, and I want Green to be on the STEEEEEEVE PATH TO SUCCESS.

by CBonerfied on Dec 20, 2011 3:23 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

WE NEED MOAR CANADIANS! IXNAY ON THE EENGRAY ANSFERTRAY

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by Wan Ihite on Dec 21, 2011 5:53 AM CST up reply actions  

presumably it’s conference status at the time the move is announced. So he would want to do it before we officially flip. No pun intended. And not that he will anyway.

Glory glory Man United, AND the other MU, AAAAnd the Leafs. Experiencing cheering whiplash for decades..

by Wan Ihite on Dec 21, 2011 5:52 AM CST up reply actions  

Team orientation is the only concern I have

If these guys buy into it the way this team has, they’ll be pretty darn good.

by AlaTiger on Dec 20, 2011 1:41 PM CST reply actions  

I am very pleased to have three transfers who will all have spent considerable time

on the team THIS year to see how team chemistry really should work. Returning 7 people to the TEAM (though only 3 of those 7 will have played this year) should help with chemistry concerns I would have to believe.

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by The Beef on Dec 20, 2011 1:48 PM CST up reply actions  

I agree about being thin up front...

but what about Criswell? Is there any hope of him stepping in right away and contributing?

by Runner37 on Dec 20, 2011 2:16 PM CST reply actions  

It's certainly possible.

I’m not sure his ceiling’s much higher than Green’s, really, but between the two of them one could start if the freshmen aren’t quickly up to speed.

by Bill C. on Dec 20, 2011 2:19 PM CST up reply actions  

Would have to be Melvin Booker and Jevon Crudup's last season I think.

I think we had 8 seniors on that team that went undefeated in Big 8 play.

Meth - when you need SEC speed and you need it NOW

by M Krip on Dec 20, 2011 4:56 PM CST up reply actions  

That '94 team had a lot

but the returning talent was Kelly Thames (till he blew out his knee), Kendrick Moore, Derek Grimm, Sutherland, Julian Winfield, etc.

That was the team that got Tyus Edneyed.

Proud Meth Aggie since 2011.

by Mac6uffin on Dec 20, 2011 5:37 PM CST up reply actions  

and.....

rumor was that sutherland was hangin brain like the ol toupee

I make bad decisions and people think my roller skating is hot.
not fat, just luxurious.
#OccupyTheNorthPole
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by BillSelfsToupee on Dec 20, 2011 7:42 PM CST via Android app up reply actions  

please translate for 40 yr olds.

Cola?

"Self and I collapsed to our knees at the same moment. Its like we are kindred spirits man. Shit happens when you win championships" -A. Clark

by Spider_Monkey on Dec 20, 2011 9:32 PM CST up reply actions  

My hands got tired of typing!

That’s my excuse and I’m sticking to it.

Proud Meth Aggie since 2011.

by Mac6uffin on Dec 20, 2011 8:22 PM CST up reply actions  

Also . . .

Kendrick Moore wasn’t a returning player. He was a frosh in 94-95.

by Michael Atchison on Dec 20, 2011 9:38 PM CST up reply actions  

Oh Troy Hudson

If only you had stayed…

by MU'97 on Dec 20, 2011 8:51 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Oh Troy Hudson

If only you had stayed…

by MU'97 on Dec 20, 2011 8:55 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

sarcasm font, or for real?

"Self and I collapsed to our knees at the same moment. Its like we are kindred spirits man. Shit happens when you win championships" -A. Clark

by Spider_Monkey on Dec 20, 2011 9:33 PM CST up reply actions  

Are you saying we have misplaced our fHaith in a dream team?

I hope it’s more like the Marlin’s pennant team. Eagles had a longtime coach. We’re fresh and new.

"Self and I collapsed to our knees at the same moment. Its like we are kindred spirits man. Shit happens when you win championships" -A. Clark

by Spider_Monkey on Dec 20, 2011 3:00 PM CST up reply actions  

i just said the first thing i thought of.

i’ll leave the thinking to you college types.

That don't make no sense!

by threadkiller on Dec 20, 2011 3:04 PM CST up reply actions  

I personally don't have high expectations for them next year. (but I love a good surprise)

With all the talent graduating and a bunch of transfers trying to gel? I certainly wouldn’t claim we’re loaded with top 20 talent for next year, would you? (open question to all)

Dream team heck no, but possibly quite a recovery from what was a bleak situation for this new staff.

"Self and I collapsed to our knees at the same moment. Its like we are kindred spirits man. Shit happens when you win championships" -A. Clark

by Spider_Monkey on Dec 20, 2011 3:09 PM CST up reply actions  

oh, absolutely.

i didn’t mean to imply we would have the same results as philly, though they have picked it up in recent weeks. i wouldn’t be surprised to see us finish anywhere from 2nd to 10th in the sec.

That don't make no sense!

by threadkiller on Dec 20, 2011 3:17 PM CST up reply actions  

If we have 2 5-star kids, Phil Pressey (likely pre-season all Big 12 next year), Bowers and Dixon

we are loaded with top 20 talent.

Whether that talent translates into a top 20 team is a different story, but the talent would be there. Just like the Eagles have playoff talent this year, but couldn’t put it together or the Tigers in the early 2000’s had the talent to be at the top of Big 12 but could never put it together.

Busting Bill C since September 19, 2011 10:19 CST, 8:19 PDT.

by mizzou2396 on Dec 20, 2011 3:29 PM CST up reply actions  

Ahem, I think you mean pre-season all SEC.

I think we'll reconcile it by winning!
-Kim English

by Jack618 on Dec 20, 2011 3:38 PM CST up reply actions  

yes!

I make bad decisions and people think my roller skating is hot.
not fat, just luxurious.
#OccupyTheNorthPole
#CakeForLife
#IsThisSignatureLineLongEnough?

by BillSelfsToupee on Dec 20, 2011 3:43 PM CST via Android app up reply actions  

excellent point

Busting Bill C since September 19, 2011 10:19 CST, 8:19 PDT.

by mizzou2396 on Dec 20, 2011 3:47 PM CST up reply actions  

Yep, everything we do next year will be setting team records in the SEC.

Let’s set the bar high!

"Self and I collapsed to our knees at the same moment. Its like we are kindred spirits man. Shit happens when you win championships" -A. Clark

by Spider_Monkey on Dec 20, 2011 3:52 PM CST up reply actions  

i'm for it!

high bars make it easier to limbo.

That don't make no sense!

by threadkiller on Dec 20, 2011 3:58 PM CST up reply actions  

SEC not happy with their hoops performance so far

UK viewpoint SEC review to date

"Self and I collapsed to our knees at the same moment. Its like we are kindred spirits man. Shit happens when you win championships" -A. Clark

by Spider_Monkey on Dec 20, 2011 4:53 PM CST up reply actions  

Have fun with Jabari

Best of luck to both him and you guys from an Oregon fan.

However, take a look at his stats. As far as we’ve been able to tell, Brown left UO because he wasn’t being featured in the offense enough. He expected to be a one and done. And this was while he was starting and playing 23+ mpg and looking terrible in those minutes, shooting poorly and turning the ball over constantly. He wasn’t getting his minutes yanked around either. It’s also telling to me that he was willing to quit on his teammates not even mid-season, but 2 games into the season. He transferred mid-season in high school as well.

He’s got a 5* frame, but a 1* brain, from what I’ve seen. Don’t expect him to be happy with coming off the bench or having a low usage rate.

by KitIsh on Dec 20, 2011 2:48 PM CST reply actions  

meh, sss.

we’ve got to give him more of a chance than that.

That don't make no sense!

by threadkiller on Dec 20, 2011 2:57 PM CST up reply actions  

Expanding a bit

Word is he transferred in high school when he was about to lose his starting spot mid-season, and here at Oregon he would have lost his starting spot and some minutes to a 5th year transfer who just became eligible to play a week ago. So, instead of sticking around and playing while he burns this year of eligibility with an obvious and gaping hole waiting for him to fill in next year at the starting guard position, he’s transferred.

by KitIsh on Dec 20, 2011 2:59 PM CST up reply actions  

I think he's transfering here because he watched some MU games on the net

and he developed a man crush for Phil Pressey.

"Self and I collapsed to our knees at the same moment. Its like we are kindred spirits man. Shit happens when you win championships" -A. Clark

by Spider_Monkey on Dec 20, 2011 3:05 PM CST up reply actions  

These are my fears as a Mizzou fan

But I guess we’ll see. We have to have fHaith in our coach that they can handle strong, not quite mature personalities.

by CBonerfied on Dec 20, 2011 3:24 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

These are my fears as a Mizzou fan

But I guess we’ll see. We have to have fHaith in our coaching staff and hope that they can handle strong and not yet mature personalities.

by CBonerfied on Dec 20, 2011 3:25 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Hate to hear this kind of stuff, but thanks for the input.

I definitely don’t want another incident where we have a guy come in and start shaking them crackers around. Hopefully Coach Haith will put him in place if there is a problem and that we don’t then have to hear about any idiot boosters who’ve been getting generous with the guy should their be a falling out of some sort.

Meth - when you need SEC speed and you need it NOW

by M Krip on Dec 20, 2011 5:02 PM CST up reply actions  

It's interesting that that Oregon press doesn't seem to be portraying it that way

Nobody seems to be bad-mouthing him on the way out the door. I’m not saying that there isn’t more to the story, but if it is as simple as a shot-happy guard unhappy with him minutes I’d think the narrative would reflect that.

"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin

by dcrockett17 on Dec 20, 2011 5:37 PM CST up reply actions  

The press would have only had two months

Of practice and two games worth of action to build that narrative. Not very long to go narrative building.

by CBonerfied on Dec 20, 2011 7:45 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

A 5 star prospect losing his starting spot in high school?

No offense, but that doesn’t sound too plausible – there are what – maybe a dozen or two kids in the whole US that may have been able to take his spot?

by XBic on Dec 20, 2011 9:26 PM CST up reply actions  

Logic ftw!

"I try to shoot shots that I know are going to go in."
-Marcus Denmon

by ttt on Dec 20, 2011 9:53 PM CST up reply actions  

Here's the best Khem Birch transfering story

I could find on the SBN Pitt blog. Pretty positive about him overall.

"Self and I collapsed to our knees at the same moment. Its like we are kindred spirits man. Shit happens when you win championships" -A. Clark

by Spider_Monkey on Dec 20, 2011 3:24 PM CST reply actions  

thanks, monkey.

pretty harsh and sounds very similar to the jabari brown case.

That don't make no sense!

by threadkiller on Dec 20, 2011 3:52 PM CST up reply actions  

It really does.

Makes you wonder what the MU sales pitch is to a kid under these circumstances? You’ll get a fair chance to EARN your starting spot? We’re thin in YOUR position? I sure hope the staff knows what they’re up against and has a plan to help these gentlemen succeed to the benefit of the whole team.

"Self and I collapsed to our knees at the same moment. Its like we are kindred spirits man. Shit happens when you win championships" -A. Clark

by Spider_Monkey on Dec 20, 2011 4:07 PM CST up reply actions  

So I take it

we won’t be seeing much Andrew Jones or the older Rosburg next year.

It’s nice to see the classes balancing out. I’m a little wary of building a team with transfers, but it seems Haith has played a pretty strong hand in a touch situation. This was probably a better option than going all JUCO until he can start filling this team with his own incoming freshman classes.

It will be interesting (like Mizzou BBall always is).

Now let’s just go get some braggin’ rights.

by tigers-royals on Dec 20, 2011 3:56 PM CST reply actions  

Jones would actually have to pay his own way next year, but he could conceivably return

Since he has never taken a redshirt year, his football eligibility is up, but he could play another year of basketball (you have five years from your initial enrollment to complete up to four years of participation in any sport). Of course, his football scholarship goes away when his football eligibility expires, so he could be in the unusual position of paying his own way for the first time in his fifth year.

by Michael Atchison on Dec 20, 2011 7:58 PM CST up reply actions  

I know they probably won't play much of a role next year

but boy will it be nice to see guys listed at 6’10 and 6’11 on our roster for the next several years

I believe in the The Black & Gold Standard

by Logan Hill on Dec 20, 2011 4:15 PM CST reply actions   2 recs

I haven't heard much about . . .

. . . the Feldman kid who transferred in from Columbia (NY). It’s my understanding he was to come in as a walk-on. With a full house of scholarship players, and Jones, Rosberg and Feldman as walk-ons there shouldn’t be any probems having enough bodies for scrimmages – and emergency backups.

As for the scholarship transfers, if we get two quality performers out of the three (or four) we should be in good shape.

I think one of the reasons these kids are gravitating to Mizzou is Coach Haith’s willingness to develop personal relationships with each player individually. That takes a lot of a coach’s personal time, but it is also quite unique for a major university coach who has so many time-demanding duties. The effort will really pay off, however, if all the transfers play up to their potential.

Go Mizzou!

57-54-9 . . . get used to it, jaybirds; and let us know when you want us to make it worse. Go Mizzou!

by countrycal on Dec 20, 2011 4:55 PM CST reply actions  

Iowa State

My concern with so many talented, yet question marked transfers is what is happening at Iowa State. They have three who came from the Big 10 and were pretty good (Royce White was a top 20 HS recruit) and a JUCO star. Granted the rest of our talent is better than what those transfers came into, but it might give an indication of next year’s Mizzou team… do they mesh? how long did it take?

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by Evan Pfaff on Dec 20, 2011 5:14 PM CST reply actions  

does anyone have the basketball poster for this season?

there are 14 players on it. who are some of those guys?

That don't make no sense!

by threadkiller on Dec 20, 2011 9:18 PM CST reply actions  

Lets play try to get to 14

Mpressey
Ppressey
Dixon
Denmon
English
Ratty
Green
Moore
Sutton (walk on)
Rosburg (walk on)
Bowers (injured)
Tony Lester (walk on?)
Jones?(walk on)
14?( who knows ross or bell or that guy from ny that i never remember his name)

by Tigersintheheart on Dec 20, 2011 9:41 PM CST up reply actions  

Left to right

Bell, Matt, Flip, Lester (who was indefinitely suspended and isn’t listed on the official roster), Ross, Green, Dixon, Sutton, Feldman, Steeeeeeeve, Ricardo, Kimmie, Denmoney, Party Starter.

by Michael Atchison on Dec 20, 2011 9:48 PM CST up reply actions  

thank you.

i hadn’t thought of the incoming transfers. not that i would have recognized them anyway.

That don't make no sense!

by threadkiller on Dec 20, 2011 9:54 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

I missed the Lester story

/embarrassed.

"Self and I collapsed to our knees at the same moment. Its like we are kindred spirits man. Shit happens when you win championships" -A. Clark

by Spider_Monkey on Dec 20, 2011 10:01 PM CST up reply actions  

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