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Know Your Braggin' Rights Rival: The Illinois Fighting Illini

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The pessimist's view: Illinois has both size and depth, two things of which Mizzou has been in short supply in 2011-12.

The optimist's view: Illinois can't shoot 3-pointers, can't stop you from making 3-pointers, isn't amazing on the offensive glass, and doesn't actually get anything from its seemingly deep bench.

Are you a glass-half-full or half-empty kind of fan?

Illinois (11-1)


Illini
Opp.
Pace (No. of Possessions)
63.8
Points Per Minute
1.73
1.44
Points Per Possession (PPP)
1.08
0.90
Points Per Shot (PPS)
1.24
1.11
2-PT FG% 51.0%
40.1%
3-PT FG% 32.5%
35.5%
FT% 73.0%
67.0%
True Shooting % 54.3%
48.7%




Illini Opp.
Assists/Gm 14.1
10.1
Steals/Gm 6.1
5.3
Turnovers/Gm 12.7
15.3
Ball Control Index (BCI)
(Assists + Steals) / TO
1.59
1.01




Illini Opp.
Expected Off. Rebounds/Gm 11.7
12.2
Offensive Rebounds/Gm 11.4
9.7
Difference -0.3
-2.5

Illinois plays slow-it-down ball, grinds out possessions that usually end with a guard shooting the ball, and attempts to win by blocking every shot within 10 feet of the basket. They do not draw many fouls, they are 212th in 3-point shooting and 223rd in 3-point defense, and considering they have one of the rarer players in college basketball -- a 7-foot-1 player who is actually pretty good -- they indeed to not hit the offensive glass particularly hard. But if Mizzou's 3-point shots aren't falling, they are going to struggle to score against the Illini.

Star-divide

Ken Pomeroy Stats

UI Offense vs MU Defense Ranks

UI Offense MU Defense Advantage
Efficiency 108
43
MU
Effective FG% 124
83
MU
Turnover % 111
35
MU
Off. Reb. % 87
54
MU
FTA/FGA 255
18
MU Big
MU Offense vs UI Defense Ranks

MU Offense UI Defense Advantage
Efficiency 2
25
MU
Effective FG% 1
60
MU
Turnover % 1
75
MU
Off. Reb. % 139
44
UI
FTA/FGA 118
104
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Where the Illini are weakest

As mentioned above, anything involving 3-pointers hasn't really gone Illinois' way this year. That, and they don't steal the ball very much. They are decent at forcing turnovers, but we'll see if they are good enough against what is, at this current moment, the best ball-handling team in the country (according to Turnover%).

Where they are best

Again, they are phenomenal at shot-blocking, and because of that, they have the No. 17 2PT% defense in the country. This will be a really fun matchup -- Mizzou currently ranks second in the country in 2PT shooting themselves. It is likely that Ricardo Ratliffe will struggle to find many open shots against Meyers Leonard, but luckily for Mizzou, the Tigers are also the No. 17 3-point shooting team in the country.

One other Illinois strength: they don't give up many steals. Avoid those types of turnovers, and you further limit the number of good looks Missouri gets on the other end of the court.

Opp's Season to Date

  • Wins vs Top 200 Teams (Team Rank is from KenPom.com)
    No. 29 Gonzaga (82-75)
    No. 90 St. Bonaventure (48-43)
    vs No. 99 Illinois State (63-59)
    vs No. 101 Richmond (70-61)
    at No. 148 Maryland (71-62)
    No. 176 Cornell (64-60)
  • Losses
    vs No. 24 UNLV (48-64)

Illinois vs Ken Pomeroy's Top 200: 6-1 (average score: Illinois 63.7, Opponent 60.6)
Missouri vs Ken Pomeroy's Top 200: 4-0 (average score: Missouri 85.3, Opponent 61.3)

A reason for optimism if ever one existed. Mizzou's strength of schedule has certainly been brutal, but guess what: against the better teams on the schedule, the honest-to-god Top 100 teams, Mizzou has still dominated.

Opp Player Stats

Player AdjGS*/Gm GmSc/Min Line
Meyers Leonard (7'1, 245, So.)
16.5
0.59
27.9 MPG, 13.3 PPG (65% 2PT, 33% 3PT, 72% FT), 7.8 RPG, 2.4 BPG, 1.3 APG, 1.8 TOPG
D.J. Richardson (6'3, 195, Jr.)
13.9
0.44
31.3 MPG, 14.4 PPG (43% 2PT, 43% 3PT, 84% FT), 3.0 RPG, 1.8 APG
Sam Maniscalco (6'0, 180, Sr.)
10.9
0.39
27.9 MPG, 10.9 PPG (56% 2PT, 32% 3PT, 89% FT), 3.0 APG, 2.5 RPG, 1.4 TOPG
Brandon Paul (6'4, 200, Jr.)
8.9
0.32
27.7 MPG, 10.7 PPG (42% 2PT, 24% 3PT, 68% FT), 3.9 RPG, 3.2 APG, 1.3 SPG, 2.4 TOPG
Tyler Griffey (6'8, 230, Jr.)
7.6
0.32
23.7 MPG, 7.4 PPG (58% 2PT, 28% 3PT, 73% FT), 4.9 RPG
Joseph Bertrand (6'5, 195, So.)
3.0
0.27
11.3 MPG, 3.2 PPG (47% 2PT, 91% FT), 1.5 RPG, 1.1 APG
Myke Henry (6'6, 230, Fr.)
2.7
0.38
7.0 MPG, 2.9 PPG (67% 2PT, 17% 3PT, 50% FT), 1.0 RPG
Tracy Abrams (6'1, 185, Fr.)
2.2
0.14
15.4 MPG, 2.6 PPG (38% 2PT, 25% 3PT, 70% FT), 2.1 RPG, 1.5 APG, 1.3 TOPG
Nnanna Egwu (6'11, 245, Fr.)
2.1
0.20
10.7 MPG, 2.4 PPG (47% 2PT, 25% FT), 1.9 RPG, 1.0 BPG
Mike Shaw (6'8, 230, Fr.)
0.5
0.05
9.4 MPG, 1.3 PPG (42% 2PT, 25% 3PT, 33% FT), 2.6 RPG
Crandall Head (6'4, 190, So.)
0.0
0.00
9.5 MPG, 1.1 PPG (25% FG), 1.1 APG, 1.0 TOPG
Ibby Djimde (6'8, 250, Fr.)
-0.3
-0.07
4.9 MPG, 0.6 PPG (20% FG), 1.2 RPG

* AdjGS = a take-off of the Game Score metric (definition here) accepted by a lot of basketball stat nerds. It redistributes a team's points based not only on points scored, but also by giving credit for assists, rebounds (offensive & defensive), steals, blocks, turnovers and fouls. It is a stat intended to determine who had the biggest overall impact on the game itself, instead of just how many balls a player put through a basket.

  • Highest Usage%: Paul (26%), Leonard (21%), Richardson (22%), Henry (21%).
  • Highest Floor%: Leonard (49%), Henry (44%), Maniscalco (42%), Richardson (22%).
  • Highest %Pass: Abrams (65%), Bertrand (60%), Maniscalco (59%), Paul (53%).
  • Highest %Shoot: Henry (55%), Griffey (52%), Richardson (45%), Leonard (38%).
  • Highest %Fouled: Leonard (18%), Paul (14%), Shaw (13%), Maniscalco (10%).
  • Highest %T/O: All the freshmen except Henry.

Illinois has a really, really weird lineup right now. Five players are guaranteed to log major minutes -- Richardson, Paul and Maniscalco in the backcourt, Griffey and Leonard up front. In that way, we can do decent analysis of the lineups at hand. But when it comes to the bench, it has been a rotating cast of characters, most of which have not contributed much. Myke Henry is probably the most interesting player off the bench -- he scored 21 points on just 10 field goal attempts against Chicago State a month ago -- but he suffered an ankle injury a month ago, and his minutes have been all over the place: 21 versus Chicago State, eight versus Coppin State ... and a combined 16 against Maryland, Gonzaga, St. Bonaventure, UNLV and Cornell.

Others have been the same way. Crandall Head logged just three minutes versus Cornell on Monday after logging 28 against Coppin State and UNLV. Mike Shaw averaged 17 minutes per game in the first three contests of the season, but just 5.7 over the last six games. Et cetera. Illinois has a lot of interesting pieces, but it seems as if Bruce Weber is still figuring out what he should do with each piece. With so many newcomers, both to the team and the rotation, it sometimes takes a while to figure out everybody's role.

In terms of the starter-versus-starter battles, however, the most interesting matchup has to be Kim English versus Tyler Griffey at the makeshift No. 4. Mizzou seems to have the advantage in the backcourt -- MU has to feel comfortable about winning the "Presseys versus Paul/Maniscalco" matchup, and while D.J. Richardson is solid, I would pick Marcus Denmon over just about anybody -- and Meyers Leonard will probably get the best of Ricardo Ratliffe, so how each team utilizes its No. 4 could go a long way toward deciding the game. Griffey has a clear size advantage, but he is not particularly impressive in terms of offensive rebounding ability (neither, for that matter, is Leonard). Will he muscle English around when Illinois has the ball? Will English be too quick for Griffey on the perimeter? In basketball, it's never as easy as saying "Player A and Player B will be matched up versus each other all night" by any means*, but it is easy to see the "one of these things is not like the other" matchup with Griffey facing off versus whoever Mizzou's No. 4 is on a given possession.

* In other words, this isn't like the pick-up basketball games I used to play, where a friend and I would make sure to be on opposite teams all the time so we could just guard each other and hang out on the 3-point line the whole time -- he would get so pissed when I would actually cut toward the basket, like I was breaking the rules or something ... and I kind of was.

Keys to the Game

  1. The 3-Point Line. The 3-pointer is a fickle mistress. In theory, Mizzou holds a significant advantage on the 3-point line, particularly on offense. But no matter how open the shots are, and no matter how good the shooter may be ... sometimes the ball just doesn't go through the basket. (And for Missouri players not named Mike Dixon, the outside shots really haven't fallen for Mizzou in the last couple of games.) And Illinois is a good enough defensive rebounding team that if the shots are rimming out, Mizzou doesn't necessarily have a clear Plan B.

    In this regard, it is a very good thing that we have seen more slashing and attacking the basket from the likes of Marcus Denmon and others recently. Just be careful: if you slash too far toward the basket, you're going to get rejected. If Phil Pressey is penetrating and dishing at a high level, then I guess that not only becomes Plan B, but Plan A. Still, make your 3's so I can stop worrying.

  2. The Hacktastic. Mizzou has been one of the best teams in the country in terms of avoiding fouls this year, and Illinois doesn't draw too many of them. But one player does a decent job in this regard: Meyers Leonard. If Ricardo Ratliffe picks up two early fouls, and then perhaps Steve Moore does the same, then Mizzou could be in trouble.

  3. Marcus Denmon. Mizzou has played three "real" games (games either on the road or versus major conference competition), all on a neutral (or semi-neutral) court. In those three games, Marcus Denmon has averaged 24.0 points (on 63% shooting), grabbed 5.0 rebounds and dished 2.3 assists per game. He has been simply spectacular when Mizzou has needed him to be. And when he's on like that, almost nothing else matters -- he's going to make sure Mizzou wins. He has been less than impressive (for him, anyway) in the last couple of games, but if he raises his game tonight ... then Mizzou probably wins no matter what.

Prediction

Ken Pomeroy's projection says Mizzou 73, Illinois 65. He gives Mizzou a 78% chance of winning. This sounds pretty good to me, but honestly, I'll be surprised if the final margin is around eight points. Either Mizzou wins easily, as they have most of the season, or this is a one-possession game down to the wire. And the longer the game is close, the better for Illinois -- for better or worse, the Illini have played six games decided by single digits this season, while Mizzou has only played one that was even slightly close down the stretch (Villanova). Mizzou responded well to adversity in that game, but Illinois has more experience in that regard.

Being that I'm an optimist, I'll pick the more Mizzou-friendly of the two Mizzou scenarios above and say that the final is something in the neighborhood of Mizzou 78, Illinois 62. But if the first few Mizzou 3's rattle out, I'll start getting awfully nervous. Bring home Win No. 12, boys.

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Dixon - Pressey - Ratliffe

I hate that pick already.

Should we expect to see a good amount of zone tonight?

Top Heavy Beer Drinker

by DnrW on Dec 22, 2011 11:03 AM CST reply actions  

Dixon, Denmon, Ratliffe

"You better call your crew, you gon’ need help." - Jay Bilas' advice to teams facing Mizzou in b-ball this year

by JGorilla55 on Dec 22, 2011 11:08 AM CST reply actions  

Denmon, Ratliffe, MPressey

"Never kick a fresh turd on a hot day" - Harry S Truman

by Cougar9001 on Dec 22, 2011 11:09 AM CST reply actions  

Dixon
Denmon
Flip

"The only game I play is football, and to me it's not a game."
-Jeremy Maclin
A kU fan once tried to test me. I ate his liver with some fava beans and a nice chianti.
#OccupyNovaCareCenter

by McNabb2Maclin4Philly on Dec 22, 2011 11:09 AM CST via mobile reply actions  

Tri

Denmon
English
Ratliffe

by MUPete on Dec 22, 2011 11:12 AM CST reply actions  

Since you asked I am glass half full, Bill!-fecta

Denmon-his mini slump ends as the competition increases
Phil Pressey-they’re not going to stop his dribble drive tonight
English-he’s good in Braggin’ Rights, and the majority of his shots will fall

Tigers by 15.

by CBonerfied on Dec 22, 2011 11:15 AM CST reply actions  

Denmon
Kim
Dixon

That's right Ice Man. I am dangerous
Pie Forever!

by drewder on Dec 22, 2011 11:15 AM CST reply actions  

Trifi

English
Denmoney
MPressey

I bleed tigerblood

by faithinhaith on Dec 22, 2011 11:21 AM CST reply actions  

M-I-Z

Denmon
Ratliffe
Dixon

by golf2804 on Dec 22, 2011 11:22 AM CST reply actions  

Tri-zi fi-ze-cta

Denmon
English
Ratliffe

Busting Bill C since September 19, 2011 10:19 CST, 8:19 PDT.

by mizzou2396 on Dec 22, 2011 11:24 AM CST reply actions  

tri

Denmon
English
Flip

Proud kanscist
#teamchilipie

by leeaustex on Dec 22, 2011 11:31 AM CST reply actions  

Trifecta

Phil Pressey
Marcus Denmon
Steve Moore

by StopSpe on Dec 22, 2011 11:35 AM CST reply actions  

Trifecta

Denmon
English
Ratliffe

by a.Fan on Dec 22, 2011 11:37 AM CST reply actions  

tri-llini

Denmon
Dixon
English

by Team on Dec 22, 2011 11:38 AM CST via iPhone app reply actions  

Tri

English
Denmon
PPressey

by JSchoey on Dec 22, 2011 11:40 AM CST reply actions  

tri da funky

English
Denmon
Dixson

by McZou on Dec 22, 2011 11:48 AM CST via mobile reply actions  

Triforce

Denmoney
Dixon
English

Proud Meth Aggie since 2011.

by Mac6uffin on Dec 22, 2011 11:49 AM CST reply actions  

Trifecta

English
Denmon
Ratliffe

by the_k on Dec 22, 2011 11:50 AM CST reply actions  

Tri-angle Offense

English
Flip
Denmon

Cheering on MIZZOU from all around the world.

by jimlc on Dec 22, 2011 11:56 AM CST reply actions  

All century-fecta

Jones
Moore
Green

I make bad decisions and people think my roller skating is hot.
not fat, just luxurious.
#OccupyTheNorthPole
#CakeForLife
#IsThisSignatureLineLongEnough?

by BillSelfsToupee on Dec 22, 2011 11:57 AM CST reply actions  

tri

Denmon
Matt P
English

by Juzam on Dec 22, 2011 12:16 PM CST reply actions  

Tri

Denmon
Pressey
English

by brcamb on Dec 22, 2011 12:24 PM CST reply actions  

Tri umphit

English
Denmon
P. Pressy

I am the racoon that has been living in your attic for a week

by Mizzoufarmer on Dec 22, 2011 12:45 PM CST reply actions  

3

denmon
flip
english

Upholding fine Mizzou traditions in Maryland.
MvP, RoC official Nemesis

by Ausgiano on Dec 22, 2011 1:00 PM CST reply actions  

Tre

English
Denmon
Flip

"Let schoolmasters puzzle their brain, With grammar, and nonsense, and learning; Good liquor, I stoutly maintain, Gives genius a better discerning." – Oliver Goldsmith

by 1Believer on Dec 22, 2011 1:04 PM CST reply actions  

No English in Trifecta = 11-0

Denmon
STEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEVE
Flip

We are DAVIDSON City!

by Gaknar on Dec 22, 2011 1:05 PM CST reply actions  

glass fully empty fecta

denmon
cliff
dixon

What do you have against the ring-tailed lemur?

by threadkiller on Dec 22, 2011 1:21 PM CST reply actions  

trifexual

Denmon
English
Dixon

Meth - when you need SEC speed and you need it NOW

by M Krip on Dec 22, 2011 1:23 PM CST reply actions  

Superfecta

Ratliffe
Denmon
P Pressey
English

by MULuke on Dec 22, 2011 1:25 PM CST reply actions  

Do, Or Do Not, There Is No Try-fectur

Denmon
English
Dixon

Big Denmoney game, Big Denmoney playas rise to the top.

by MIZZOUfaninAZ on Dec 22, 2011 1:26 PM CST reply actions  

Random sidenote...

…has anyone else noticed that on mutigers.com, the basketball schedule doesn’t list any of the Texas games as conference games?

Pie and Coffee is approximately the third best social interaction a man can hope to have with a woman.

by Pie Beats Cake on Dec 22, 2011 1:27 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

Uh oh, they did it to Kansas State too

We’ll never hear the end of this.

We are DAVIDSON City!

by Gaknar on Dec 22, 2011 1:38 PM CST up reply actions  

Bernie Show

Solid interview with Coach Knight today on the Bernie show.
Bernie started talking about how this is a great matchup tonight and Coach Knight cut him off and basically said Mizzou is going to stomp the Illini. He then went on to sing our praises for a few minutes. The rest of the interview is pretty good too. He cracked me up a few times.
The podcast isn’t up yet that I can find, but it should be up at the below link in an hour or so:
http://www.101sports.com/category/podcenter

by tigers-royals on Dec 22, 2011 1:31 PM CST reply actions  

Also,

It was at the end of the 12 o’clock hour. Looks like they break the podcasts into hour segments.

by tigers-royals on Dec 22, 2011 1:33 PM CST up reply actions  

that man may not have the best personal skills

but he really knows basketball

Upholding fine Mizzou traditions in Maryland.
MvP, RoC official Nemesis

by Ausgiano on Dec 22, 2011 1:45 PM CST up reply actions  

That's hardly a substitue.

A man said to the universe: "Sir I exist!" "However," replied the universe,
"The fact has not created in me a sense of obligation."
--Stephen Crane

by blackfin on Dec 22, 2011 1:53 PM CST up reply actions  

Braggin' Fecta

Flip goes off
Denmon is denmon
Rat holds his own

by jrfulmer on Dec 22, 2011 2:00 PM CST reply actions  

Gimel-fecta to celebrate Hannukah

Denmoney
Kimmey
Ratliffey

My perspective is that because Leonard is such a good shot blocker that we shoot go at him and try to get fouls. Our speed and passing are good, so I trust our guards not to force things but to be clever in making help late. Big men foul problems go both ways. Is Egwu decent if Leonard needs to sit?

Irish provenance of the schwa pronunciation of vowels in weakly stressed syllables -> Missoura

by totalloser on Dec 22, 2011 2:00 PM CST reply actions  

Braggin' Rights Trifecta

Denmon
English
Dixon

I think we'll reconcile it by winning!
-Kim English

by Jack618 on Dec 22, 2011 2:15 PM CST reply actions  

Ratliff may be able to draw some withthat sweet baby hook.

"Let schoolmasters puzzle their brain, With grammar, and nonsense, and learning; Good liquor, I stoutly maintain, Gives genius a better discerning." – Oliver Goldsmith

by 1Believer on Dec 22, 2011 2:17 PM CST up reply actions  

Ratliffe

Sweet Baby Hook

"Let schoolmasters puzzle their brain, With grammar, and nonsense, and learning; Good liquor, I stoutly maintain, Gives genius a better discerning." – Oliver Goldsmith

by 1Believer on Dec 22, 2011 2:18 PM CST up reply actions  

Tigers!!!

Denmon
Ratliffe
Flip

WIN!!

by tigers and chiefs fan on Dec 22, 2011 2:41 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

no fair.

you have to pick a particular player for the superfecta, not just the game result. ;-)

What do you have against the ring-tailed lemur?

by threadkiller on Dec 22, 2011 2:51 PM CST up reply actions  

denmon, dixon, ppressey

this is a game mizzou should win, period. we’re just….better than they are.

"He’s not a great golden god come from the sky. He’s a fucking baseball player."

-the red baron

by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 22, 2011 5:09 PM CST reply actions  

M-I-Z!

English
Denmon
STEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Fight Tigers Fight!

by digideth on Dec 22, 2011 5:13 PM CST reply actions  

Braggin'Rightsfecta

P Pressey
Denmon
Ratliffe

I AM A METH AGGIE

by pinkelposse on Dec 22, 2011 5:15 PM CST reply actions  

Trifecta

Kimmeh
Dixon
Denmon

by TheHamburglar on Dec 22, 2011 5:18 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

Attack Myers Leonard, draw fouls and get into the Illini bench, and hit open threes. If all of those things happen, Mizzou wins big. If two out of three happen, Mizzou ekes out a tight one. One out of three? Look out.

by Bivouac77 on Dec 22, 2011 7:02 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

3some of misplaced multiplicity of basketball luuurve

Den
Dix
Ppppppressey.

Glory glory Man United, AND the other MU, AAAAnd the Leafs. Experiencing cheering whiplash for decades..

by Wan Ihite on Dec 22, 2011 7:25 PM CST reply actions  

Last Second Trifecta

Denmon
Flip
Ratliffe

What do Tigers dream of when they take a little Tiger snooze? Do they dream of mauling Jayhawks, Or Todd Reesing in his sod helmet suit? Don’t you get in a self-loathing funk, We’re gonna start this party with a Lawrence Bowers dunk, And then we’re gonna find Kimmeh’s shot too, And bring a victory back to the Zou! Zou, Zou, oh back to the Zou! But if we keep shooting the three like we have been… Then we’re shit outta luck

by darklighter09 on Dec 22, 2011 8:06 PM CST reply actions  

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