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Mizzou Links, 12-23-11

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  • Mizzou > Illinois
    MUtigers.com: Phil Pressey Leads No. 9 Missouri Past No. 25 Illinois, 78-74
    MUtigers.com: Post Game Notes
    MUtigers.com: Post Game Quotes

    Frank Haith on Marcus Denmon having an off night...
    I told the team since Marcus and Ricardo didn't have the best games in the first half and had some foul trouble, and Marcus struggled tonight but we found a way and that was good for us because we had some other guys that showed they could score. Obviously the two little guys, Phil and Mike, were outstanding tonight and every night you can have a off night but you can't take a night off and so we still have to play on both ends of the court.

    The Trib: Tigers come through when it counts
    The Missourian: Missouri overcomes adversity in win over Illinois
    KC Star: No. 9 Mizzou holds off Illini for 12th win
    KC Star (Sam Mellinger): With its win over Illinois, Missouri sends a message to Big 12

    Missouri wins with its guards, of course. Denmon will have more great games than bad ones, and Phil Pressey makes an impact on both ends of the court when he’s at his best. Ratliffe is improved from last year, English’s game is polished, Steve Moore provided a boost in the first half, Dixon plays well in bursts — the list goes on.

    If MU’s lack of size holds them back at times, its quickness and NASCAR pace will bury teams at other times.

    Both happened against Illinois, but the takeaway here was how fearlessly the Tigers played even in a charged atmosphere and a close game — symbolized by Phil Pressey’s behind-the-back pass in traffic to Ratliffe with less than 3 minutes left.

    This isn’t exactly the game Frank Haith wants to define his team. They had defensive failures, a bizarre stretch in the second half where the offense reverted to last year’s chaos, and afterward you got the sense that nobody involved was exactly satisfied, even beating a rival.

    Post-Dispatch: Tigers trip Illini, have something to brag about
    Post-Dispatch (Bryan Burwell): Tigers playing together for Haith

    When asked why he was so pleased with the way they were playing, rather than with their unbeaten record, Haith flashed a big smile.

    "I think the way you asked that question is important," he said. "More so than winning, it's how we're playing. I'm excited about that because when you take over a new club and you're implementing a new style, trying to put in your footprint, and these guys have bought in to it. They bought in to what we're trying to do on the offensive end, and on the defensive end. The reason they've bought in is because we have great leadership. It's because of Kim English and Marcus Denmon."

    It's also because of Haith, who also must have the skills of a diplomat to go along with his high basketball IQ. A year ago, the Tigers were sniping at each other behind the scenes, with petty jealousies, complaints about playing time and shots ruining the season.

    But all that seems to behind Mizzou now. They are 12-0, rising in the rankings every week and gaining admirers nationwide as they go along.

    PowerMizzou: Tigers make late plays to top Illini
    PowerMizzou: PMTV-HD: Braggin' Rights post-game
    The Maneater: Missouri stands tall to earn Braggin' Rights over Illinois
    KBIA Sports Extra: "Braggin' Rights" trophy stays with Mizzou
    Fox Sports MW: Road to perfection still in sight for Mizzou
    CBS Sports: Missouri win more than Braggin' Rights
    Yahoo (Pat Forde): Brash Missouri turns back Illinois

    Illinois center Meyers Leonard stepped toward Phil Pressey to stop his penetration, so he blithely whipped a behind-the-back pass to Ricardo Ratliffe, who laid it in for a 68-67 lead.

    "When you’ve got a 7-1 monster down there like they do, you’ve got to be on your toes," Pressey explained. "I just made the pass when he came up."

    Just made the pass? No college player else makes that Globetrotters pass at that crucial moment in that intense game. This was like Bruce Willis in one of the "Die Hard" movies, delivering some absurdly cheeky line in a life-and-death situation.

    Except this was real, not Hollywood. And this was Pressey doing what these audacious and athletic Missouri Tigers do, irrespective of time and score, for better or worse.

    Just ballin’.

  • STEEEEEEEEEEEVE
    The Missourian: Steve Moore looms large in Missouri's win against Illinois

Lots of Indy Bowl links after the jump.

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    Daily Oklahoman: OU football: 1979 photo of Bob Stoops, Billy Sims bridges two eras of Sooner football

SEC

  • Solidarity
    Dr. Saturday: LSU shows 'big cat' camaraderie for new SEC comrades in Missouri
  • Scheduling
    SB Nation: 2012 SEC Football Schedule To Be Released After Christmas
    SB Nation Atlanta: Georgia Football Schedule 2012: Alabama Game Replaced By Missouri, According To Report
  • Baseball
    SimmonsField.com: Southern Exposure: SEC Baseball chatter

Other Mizzou Links

The Mizzou-Memphis box score below is fascinating. The teams combined to shoot 39-for-131 from the field -- that's a field goal percentage of 29.8%, and a True Shooting percentage of 35.0% for Mizzou, 25.4% for Memphis. They combined to grab 40 offensive rebounds, a ridiculous total, but because of the number of missed shots, they combined to go only +5 in terms of offensive rebounding (+1 for Mizzou, +4 for Memphis). Not the most ringing of endorsements for women's basketball. But in other news … Mizzou's 9-1!

  • Mizzou Women's Basketball
    MUtigers.com: Tigers Overcome Memphis
    MUtigers.com: Post Game Quotes
    The Missourian: Missouri women's basketball blocks Memphis
  • Mizzou Swimming & Diving
    The Trib: MU diver Bonuchi wins 1-meter gold at Winter Nationals
  • Mizzou Baseball
    SimmonsField.com: Mizzou Baseball in the Minors &Majors

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    SB Nation: Five Laziest Accusations In Sports Commentary, And What They Really Mean
  • Mostly Great List, Aside From The Inexplicable "Meadows > Radner" Decision
    Nerve.com: Ranked: Every Saturday Night Live Cast Member Ever, From Worst To Best
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    Busted Racquet: Andy Roddick raps 'Humpty Dance' while wearing a Christmas sweater and drinking Miller Lite
  • USMNT
    Dirty Tackle: Jermaine Jones declared 'nastiest player in Germany'

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They can actually get stuff from both the bowl AND from the University.

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by The Beef on Dec 23, 2011 7:45 AM CST up reply actions  

Thanks for clearing that up for me

For a moment I almost thought there was a bit of “do as I say not as I do” hypocrisy going on. What the hell was I thinking?

by McZou on Dec 23, 2011 8:27 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Sigh

Do you really feel like it’s OK for boosters to buy meals, etc. for players? If that’s OK, then where do you draw the line? $20 for dinner from a booster is OK, but $30 is too much?

I think bowl gifts to players is 100% OK and not in any way hypocritical. Bowl gifts are all above the board. Every player gets the same thing. Nobody’s getting an unfair recruiting advantage just because they have boosters with much deeper pockets (well, maybe USC). This is so obvious to me. I don’t understand why people get on their high horse about this stuff. Boosters can’t be trusted. You give them an inch, they will assuredly take more than a mile. You have to draw the line somewhere, and the only line that makes sense is zero. No booster types giving anything to the players. Period. It’s simple and makes all the sense in the world.

by MU9296 on Dec 23, 2011 5:45 PM CST up reply actions  

MPressey's half ending dunk

wasn’t a Top 10 play.

What are they smoking over at the Death Star?

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by Mac6uffin on Dec 23, 2011 7:48 AM CST reply actions  

SC was out of LA this morning

those guys were still drunk from last night.

Also, what in the hell happened to Arizona St?

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by Ausgiano on Dec 23, 2011 7:50 AM CST up reply actions  

They gave up a 3rd and 29 to UCLA....

….and shit the bed from there on out

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by The Beef on Dec 23, 2011 8:16 AM CST up reply actions  

that seems a little harsh

no need to drag night defecation into all of this.

Busting Bill C since September 19, 2011 10:19 CST, 8:19 PDT.

by mizzou2396 on Dec 23, 2011 8:28 AM CST up reply actions  

Brock Osweiller is 6'8"

This is important in all conversations.

That's right Ice Man. I am dangerous
Pie Forever!

by drewder on Dec 23, 2011 8:31 AM CST up reply actions  

By the way...

…tigers and chiefs fan: you won the Caption Contest. You’re on the clock!

by Bill C. on Dec 23, 2011 8:36 AM CST reply actions  

Can I exchange some for Franklins?

That's right Ice Man. I am dangerous
Pie Forever!

by drewder on Dec 23, 2011 9:18 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

So I went to make a casino joke here...

The first was “CHANGING BLACK”…but then I thought that might be bad considering the Franklins.

Then I was going to ask if you wanted to “color up”….again…thought better of it. So here I am without a good response :-)

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by The Beef on Dec 23, 2011 9:22 AM CST up reply actions  

I'm not sure of the exchange rate.

How many Krekloons to a Franlin or vice versa?

That's right Ice Man. I am dangerous
Pie Forever!

by drewder on Dec 23, 2011 9:32 AM CST up reply actions  

oops Franklin

That's right Ice Man. I am dangerous
Pie Forever!

by drewder on Dec 23, 2011 9:32 AM CST up reply actions  

oh no you didn

What do you have against the ring-tailed lemur?

by threadkiller on Dec 23, 2011 9:41 AM CST up reply actions  

nice to know I have supportive friends.

That's right Ice Man. I am dangerous
Pie Forever!

by drewder on Dec 23, 2011 9:51 AM CST up reply actions  

check change, color comin in!

Never forget Wolf Island, or pie! #AHAMF, it's vaguely sordid.

by Spider_Monkey on Dec 23, 2011 12:12 PM CST up reply actions  

I know this was said in another thread

but I love that ad from LSU. Gives me a warm fuzzy feeling.

Also … Gaines “still has” big play ability? That’s an odd way to frame it.

by jschooltiger on Dec 23, 2011 8:38 AM CST reply actions  

well clearly he's past his prime.

he and charles woodson can still get it done, though. they just need a little more rest than younger players.

What do you have against the ring-tailed lemur?

by threadkiller on Dec 23, 2011 8:45 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Good luck being in Shreveport.

I suggest leaving as soon as possible.

/no danger, just a terrible town. Think of it as Branson without the charm.

by SEC Supremacist on Dec 23, 2011 9:06 AM CST up reply actions  

Think of Branson without the charm

so just Branson then? At least Shreveport has casinos.

Busting Bill C since September 19, 2011 10:19 CST, 8:19 PDT.

by mizzou2396 on Dec 23, 2011 9:25 AM CST up reply actions  

Shreveport has negative charm.

Branson annoys me. It’s like a ghetto Gatlinburg. Hell, Boonville has a casino. Point is, it’s a terrible place to be.

by SEC Supremacist on Dec 23, 2011 9:27 AM CST up reply actions  

Ouch

Gatlinburg does not have Big Cedar Lodge.

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Pie Forever!

by drewder on Dec 23, 2011 9:52 AM CST up reply actions  

but it does have the Dolly Parton's Dixie Stampede

Busting Bill C since September 19, 2011 10:19 CST, 8:19 PDT.

by mizzou2396 on Dec 23, 2011 9:56 AM CST up reply actions  

As does Gatlinburg.

And Dollywood also has roller coasters and stuff. Don’t get me wrong, I wouldn’t go to Gatlinburg by choice either. But it seems bigger than Branson.

by SEC Supremacist on Dec 23, 2011 9:57 AM CST up reply actions  

Branson has rollercoasters too.

Silver Dollar City has some 2 of them are actually pretty good too.

That's right Ice Man. I am dangerous
Pie Forever!

by drewder on Dec 23, 2011 10:01 AM CST up reply actions  

Oh lord, Gatlinburg

I tried the trip through Sevierville/Pigeon Forge/Gatlinburg once. Once. 13 miles, 3 hours.

We are DAVIDSON City!

by Gaknar on Dec 23, 2011 9:48 PM CST up reply actions  

also, excellent link on the five laziest accusations in sports

this reminds me of certain relatives of mine (with the caveat that the guys with tats aren’t thugs if they play for Mizzou)

A THUG can be an actual thug, such as Bill Laimbeer or Ndamukong Suh, or it can be any black athlete with tattoos.

by jschooltiger on Dec 23, 2011 8:41 AM CST reply actions  

From Big Steeeeeeve via the Missourian article
It’s really a blessing for me to have this new coaching staff and just to have a good a season as I have and a successful senior year thus far.

I know we shouldn’t read to much into such comments, but it really looks like there is some good coaching going on this year (and by implication, lack of it last year).

Irish provenance of the schwa pronunciation of vowels in weakly stressed syllables -> Missoura

by totalloser on Dec 23, 2011 9:08 AM CST reply actions  

I don't know about lack of coaching.

I would say however I don’t think XCMA’s style helped Steve at all. He just isn’t the type of player Anderson’s system works for. FHaith’s style helps the big guys with more half court defense and the big guys get more easy buckets with the drive and dish from our guards.

That's right Ice Man. I am dangerous
Pie Forever!

by drewder on Dec 23, 2011 9:12 AM CST up reply actions  

While I agree with you on all points, it does beg the interesting questions...

if you are CMA, why recruit Moore then? And really, what sort of “promises” or explanations were made to him about what sort of fit he would be in THAT system? Don’t get me wrong, I love that Steve is here and really love the season he is having, so I am thankful in the end CMA was able to get him on campus, but it is an interesting question to me about what went on to get Steve here (not at all hinting at impropriety, just wondering how it actually happened) and then what sort of coaching/development happened (or perhaps, did not happen) in the years leading up to this one.

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by The Beef on Dec 23, 2011 9:17 AM CST up reply actions  

Yeah I see that as well.

Ratliffe makes sense. But Steve not so much. I love the guy and honestly we don’t win without his contributions last night. I heard of complaints going on last year among the players but his name wasn’t mentioned as one of the complainers. Says alot about the guy and his drive to compete and improve.

That's right Ice Man. I am dangerous
Pie Forever!

by drewder on Dec 23, 2011 9:35 AM CST up reply actions  

I really think getting Steve . . .

. . . was mostly just proving that Anderson could keep some of the local talent at home.

Also, Moore played with Denmon in AAU ball, if I remember correctly, and may have played a role in getting Marcus on board.

57-54-9 . . . get used to it, jaybirds; and let us know when you want us to make it worse. Go Mizzou!

by countrycal on Dec 23, 2011 9:56 AM CST up reply actions  

Oliver Miller

seemed to do just fine in that system.

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by Mac6uffin on Dec 23, 2011 9:44 AM CST up reply actions  

Let's be honest here

Miller > Steve

That's right Ice Man. I am dangerous
Pie Forever!

by drewder on Dec 23, 2011 9:46 AM CST up reply actions  

And honestly,

when that system didn’t have Oliver Miller, it produced relatively similar results to what we saw here, I think.

Coming Home Newcastle!

"Alcohol may be man's worst enemy, but the bible says love your enemy." --Frank Sinatra

by Other Side of the Pillow on Dec 23, 2011 10:41 AM CST up reply actions  

If anyone deserves the right to celebrate . . .

. . . this year’s success, it is Steve Moore – he has been the ultimate team player for three frustrating years.

Enjoy this last year, Big Fella, you definitely deserve it!

57-54-9 . . . get used to it, jaybirds; and let us know when you want us to make it worse. Go Mizzou!

by countrycal on Dec 23, 2011 9:31 AM CST up reply actions  

I know this subject has been beaten to death...

but I hope the individuals in charge at kansas saw the game last night and can see past their anger and give us a similar game in KC every year after we head to the SEC in July.

by HHKB Chris on Dec 23, 2011 9:20 AM CST reply actions  

Amen to that

I appreciated the honesty Haith had when talking about his thoughts upon his first true exposure to Scotttrade and that sort of environment. It really is unique in College Basketball and getting to have another game just like it in KC would be a win for EVERYBODY (schools, fans, KC)

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by The Beef on Dec 23, 2011 9:23 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Did you happen to catch..

..the guy not named Bob Knight make a comment that Haith inherited a good team and “to his credit” had not messed it up? That truly annoyed me. He inherited a good team and it appears, has improved it.

by tigerfan1 on Dec 23, 2011 9:48 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Or how about bob knights constant stuttering and messing up of players names.

For instance the pressley brothers. The guy was a great coach, but it is just time for him to chill in a rocking chair in his living room.

by Tigersintheheart on Dec 23, 2011 10:12 AM CST up reply actions  

He we have two PressLeys

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Pie Forever!

by drewder on Dec 23, 2011 10:21 AM CST up reply actions  

I almost felt bad for Knight

He knows more about basketball than any 3 others at the WWL, but you are right, he certainly has his (increasingly severe) limitations

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by The Beef on Dec 23, 2011 10:24 AM CST up reply actions  

In Knight's defense

it was refreshing to have an analyst who could give accurate praise and criticism during the game where it was needed. I never was a Knight fan when he was a coach due to some of his antics but I really like the way he was breaking down some of the plays for the viewing audience and giving his input on how he thinks it should be done sometimes.

by M Krip on Dec 23, 2011 11:25 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Loved this quote from the Burwell article.

“Kimmie, Kimmie,” shouted Marcus Denmon to fellow guard Kim English during a shooting drill. “Go straight up! Go straight up!”

I feel like I have yelled that at the tv about 1000 times in the past year and a half

by jack.nowland on Dec 23, 2011 9:35 AM CST reply actions  

Self-important me wonders:

Callback to RMN Meme?

Coming Home Newcastle!

"Alcohol may be man's worst enemy, but the bible says love your enemy." --Frank Sinatra

by Other Side of the Pillow on Dec 23, 2011 10:43 AM CST up reply actions  

1 promise fulfilled

1 promise to go Kimmeh.

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by mizzou2396 on Dec 23, 2011 9:37 AM CST reply actions  

Noted for the record

Live game thread on RMN: 765 comments
Live game thread on RCT: 23 comments

by MU'97 on Dec 23, 2011 9:55 AM CST reply actions  

I watched most of the first half.

USC’s plan appeared to be defend defend defend defend and then hope somehow the balls goes near the basket on the offensive end.

That's right Ice Man. I am dangerous
Pie Forever!

by drewder on Dec 23, 2011 10:03 AM CST up reply actions  

now that they have the next 2 heisman winners,

they’re looking ahead to football season.

What do you have against the ring-tailed lemur?

by threadkiller on Dec 23, 2011 10:20 AM CST up reply actions  

It would probably be incorrect

to refer to their football game postings as “live” threads.

by MU'97 on Dec 23, 2011 10:24 AM CST up reply actions  

Now now...

The live thread was dead because they were all at the game!

by galactahack on Dec 23, 2011 11:33 AM CST via Android app up reply actions  

Considering they only scored 23 points in the first half

I don’t think it qualified as a live game. In fact, it probably should have been put out of its misery.

We are DAVIDSON City!

by Gaknar on Dec 23, 2011 9:51 PM CST up reply actions  

they scared me last night....

they looked very out of control at times. should have whipped them but won by 4?

can't we just pave over kansas?

by mizzutgr on Dec 23, 2011 10:41 AM CST reply actions  

Well I don't know about should have whipped them...

That was a good Illinois team that matches up well with us. We did shoot ourselves in the foot, but played well when we had to.

by CapnCribbs on Dec 23, 2011 11:07 AM CST via iPhone app up reply actions  

A win over a ranked team on a neutral court...

…should probably only be considered scary if your expectations are an undefeated record and a national title. Call me crazy, but I feel pretty confident in the fact that Missouri is not going to go undefeated. And whenever they lose (hopefully not very many times), they are probably going to look a lot like they did last night … which makes sense, because it’s how this exact personnel played last year at times (in losses) too.

by Bill C. on Dec 23, 2011 11:37 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

I am so glad that we ended up with Coach Haith instead of Painter.

I really like Haith, the way he handled all the previous turmoil and angst as well as the way he carries himself publicly right now. I am soooo glad it worked out the way it did, other than I feel bad for all the bad feelings thrown around by some in our fanbase upon the news of his hire.

by M Krip on Dec 23, 2011 12:12 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

and now for something completely different(but not really)

Nub’s center cleared to play after pleading guilty to wreckless driving while parked in running car in a parking lot. Didn’t see this coming after the way they handled Peters, Pillips, Suh, etc..

Go Big Red!(indeed)

by Earl Billings on Dec 23, 2011 12:26 PM CST reply actions  

These quotes above from fHaith hurt my brain...

I know he was being conversational, but man, that was awful.

Never forget Wolf Island, or pie! #AHAMF, it's vaguely sordid.

by Spider_Monkey on Dec 23, 2011 12:37 PM CST reply actions  

WTF We have to play at A&M AGAIN???
GabeDeArmond Gabe DeArmond
Piecing together reports, #Mizzou #SEC schedule would be at A&M, UF, TENN. Home against UGA. Site TBD for SC, Bama, UK, Vandy

We are DAVIDSON City!

by Gaknar on Dec 23, 2011 10:04 PM CST reply actions  

If we didn't win there every time, this would be very upsetting.

Never forget Wolf Island, or pie! #AHAMF, it's vaguely sordid.

by Spider_Monkey on Dec 24, 2011 2:51 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

you seem to have a warped sense of humor,

yet you don’t find this funny?

What do you have against the ring-tailed lemur?

by threadkiller on Dec 24, 2011 10:12 PM CST up reply actions  

That SNL list was complete crap

I violently disagree with so many of those rankings.

by AlaTiger on Dec 23, 2011 10:47 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

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