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Study Hall: Mizzou 81, Villanova 71 (And A Small Navy Preview)

NEW YORK, NY - DECEMBER 06: Marcus Denmon #12 of the Missouri Tigers steals the ball from JayVaughn Pinkston #22 of the Villanova Wildcats during the Jimmy V Men's Basketball Classic at Madison Square Garden on December 6, 2011 in New York City.  (Photo by Nick Laham/Getty Images)

Your Trifecta: Denmon-Ratliffe-PPressey. Your winner: EVERYBODY! Okay, three people -- Gaknar, Ausgiano and ttt. Seriously, if the top is going to be this predictable, I'm going to go with a damn superfecta. Anyway, give your TRIfecta guesses for tomorrow's Navy game in comments.

So this game happened three days ago, and I almost saw none of it. The analysis on this site and others has been quite strong, so I'm not going to be able to add much to it, but let's peruse the stats nonetheless, then knock out a quick look at Navy.

Mizzou 81, Villanova 71


Mizzou
Nova
Pace (No. of Possessions)
67.0
Points Per Minute
2.03
1.78
Points Per Possession (PPP)
1.21
1.06
Points Per Shot (PPS)
1.23
1.18
2-PT FG% 43.9%
45.2%
3-PT FG% 40.0%
37.9%
FT% 83.3%
66.7%
True Shooting % 54.8%
53.3%




Mizzou Nova
Assists 23
16
Steals 8
4
Turnovers 8
15
Ball Control Index (BCI)
(Assists + Steals) / TO
3.88
1.33




Mizzou Nova
Expected Offensive Rebounds 14
13
Offensive Rebounds 14
13
Difference +0
+0

Pass, Pass, Pass

Twenty-three assists in 27 made baskets. Phil Pressey's AdjGS points below were only good, not great, but wow is he completely dominating the Missouri offense right now. And with their current proficiency -- 1.27 points per possession for the year, no worse than 1.21 in any one game (they averaged better than 1.21 per possession just once in the first eight games last year) -- it's hard to complain too much about that. Both Presseys and Mike Dixon are figuring out fantastic ways to contribute even if the shots aren't falling (and this season, the shots indeed haven't fallen; none of these three are shooting even 37% so far).

Breaking Even

Missouri isn't going to be an amazing rebounding team, but anytime they can break even, they are probably going to win. Villanova is a bigger team, and even though the Wildcats's bigs are a bit banged up, coming up with a +0 in the expected rebounds department was good enough.

Star-divide

Mizzou Player Stats

(Definitions at the bottom of the post.)

Player
AdjGS GmSc/Min Line
Marcus Denmon
28.1
0.72
39 Min, 28 Pts (10-16 FG, 6-10 3PT, 2-2 FT), 5 Reb (2 Off), 3 Ast
Ricardo Ratliffe
17.7
0.54
33 Min, 17 Pts (8-8 FG, 1-2 FT), 11 Reb (5 Off), 2 TO
Phil Pressey
12.6
0.52
24 Min, 8 Pts (1-8 FG, 0-4 3PT, 6-6 FT), 12 Ast, 3 Reb, 3 Stl, 3 TO
Kim English
7.8
0.24
32 Min, 15 Pts (5-12 FG, 3-7 3PT, 2-2 FT), 2 Reb, 2 TO
Matt Pressey
5.0
0.16
32 Min, 6 Pts (2-8 FG, 0-2 3PT, 2-2 FT), 6 Reb (2 Off)
Mike Dixon
4.6
0.18
25 Min, 6 Pts (2-13 FG, 1-2 3PT, 1-2 FT), 7 Ast, 3 Reb, 2 Stl
Steve Moore
3.5
0.23
15 Min, 1 Pt (0-1 FG, 1-2 FT), 3 Reb, 2 Stl
  • Mizzou got major contributions from only three players, and only played seven players ... and they won by ten regardless.
  • Lordy, Marcus.
  • Phil Pressey has 29 assists in the last three games.
Player Usage% Floor% Touches/
Poss.
%Pass %Shoot %Fouled %T/O
Denmon
21%
57%
2.8
49%
45%
6%
0%
Ratliffe
16%
68%
1.1
0%
66%
17%
17%
P. Pressey
28%
40%
11.0
80%
9%
7%
3%
English
23%
31%
1.5
0%
74%
13%
12%
M. Pressey
14%
29%
1.5
37%
50%
13%
0%
Dixon
29%
26%
6.9
72%
23%
4%
2%
Moore
6%
22%
0.6
0%
32%
68%
0%

To the checklist!

Marcus Denmon's Usage% needs to be 23% or higher. (Nope.)
Kim English's %T/O needs to be at 10% or lower. (Nope.)
Kim English's Floor% should be at 35% or higher. (Nope.)
Ricardo Ratliffe's %Fouled should be at least 10%. (Yes!)
Phil Pressey's Touches/Possession need to be 3.5 or better. (To say the least.)
Mike Dixon's %Pass should be 55% or higher. (Yes!)
Steve Moore's Touches/Possession should be at least 1.0. (Nope.)

Only three-for-seven. And again, a double-digit win. As was debated in this week's Roundtable, this wasn't the same type of statement win as the California game, but the fact that they were to win relatively comfortably despite clearly not being on their game was a different kind of statement. We know this team's ceiling -- and now we know that its floor really isn't all that low. They can play worse, obviously (and they surely will at some point), but they'll have to play relatively poorly to lose a game to even a decent team.

A Quick Navy Overview

So does Navy have anything to offer? Not really.

Navy Offense vs MU Defense Ranks

Navy Off. MU Defense Advantage
Efficiency 308
27
MU big
Effective FG% 225
74
MU big
Turnover % 303
30
MU big
Off. Reb. % 244
68
MU big
FTA/FGA 205
13
MU big
MU Offense vs Navy Defense Ranks

MU Offense Navy Def.
Advantage
Efficiency 4
239
MU big
Effective FG% 2
240
MU big
Turnover % 2
121
MU big
Off. Reb. % 184
148
Navy
FTA/FGA 138
99
Navy

Where the Middies are weakest

A lot of places. They are 3-7 despite having played only one team ranked higher than 197th in Ken Pomeroy's rankings. They lost by two (57-55) to No. 110 Tulane at home, and … that's their most impressive result. They have beaten No. 289 Mount St. Mary's (64-56), No. 317 Longwood (78-70) and Penn State-Altoona (88-54). They have kept things mostly close against other bad teams, but they've still lost to No. 197 Quinnipiac (78-54), No. 201 Albany (69-62), No. 202 Elon (51-48), No. 223 Siena (65-56), No. 329 Monmouth (69-67) and No. 341 MD-Eastern Shore (59-46). They are … not a good team. The offense offers little other than the ability to make free throws (though they don't actually draw many fouls), and they turn the ball over like their hands are greased. Not a particularly good sign. Meanwhile, they don't prevent you from taking good shots (which is a problem considering Missouri shoots incredibly well).

Where they are best

They block out well, and they don't foul. That's about it, but it does offer them a couple of slight advantages when Missouri has the ball. They also force turnovers at a decent rate, but probably not well enough against a Missouri team that has committed turnovers at the second-lowest rate in the country thus far.

Summary And Prediction

I guess I've already summarized the 'Nova game above, so regarding Navy, I'll just say Ken Pomeroy's projection is 87-56. Navy will probably try to slow the pace down as much as possible -- which would keep the score down a bit -- but I doubt they'll succeed. And if they can't slow things down, it becomes a "Name your score" game. If they play an average game, they should be able to win by however much they want.

---

AdjGS: a take-off of the Game Score metric (definition here) accepted by a lot of basketball stat nerds. It takes points, assists, rebounds (offensive & defensive), steals, blocks, turnovers and fouls into account to determine an individual's "score" for a given game. The "adjustment" in Adjusted Game Score is simply matching the total game scores to the total points scored in the game, thereby redistributing the game's points scored to those who had the biggest impact on the game itself, instead of just how many balls a player put through a basket.

Usage%: This "estimates the % of team possessions a player consumes while on the floor" (via). The usage of those possessions is determined via a formula using field goal and free throw attempts, offensive rebounds, assists and turnovers. The higher the number, the more prevalent a player is (good or bad) in a team's offensive outcome. As you would expect, someone like Kim English has a high Usage%, while Steve Moore has an extremely low one.

Floor%: Via Basketball-Reference.com: Floor % answers the question, "when Player X uses a possession, what is the probability that his team scores at least 1 point?". The higher the Floor%, the more frequently the team probably scores when the given player is involved.

Touches/Possession: Using field goal attempts, free throw attempts, assists and turnovers, Touches attempt to estimate "the number of times a player touched the ball in an attacking position on the floor." Take the estimated touches and divide it by the estimated number of possessions for which a player was on the court, and you get a rough idea of how many times a player touched the ball in a given possession. For point guards, you'll see the number in the 3-4 range. For shooting guards and wings, 2-3. For Steve Moore, 1.30. You get the idea.

Anyway, using the Touches figure, we can estimate the percentage of time a player "in an attacking position" passes, shoots, turns the ball over, or gets fouled.

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WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Let it ride!

Denmon
Ratliffe
Flip

GO GO FIGHTING METH AGGIES!

by Gaknar on Dec 9, 2011 11:16 AM CST reply actions   2 recs

yeah we're just going to be over here where the winners hang out.

"I try to shoot shots that I know are going to go in."
-Marcus Denmon

by ttt on Dec 9, 2011 11:27 AM CST up reply actions  

mind if I pull up a chair?

Upholding fine Mizzou traditions in Maryland.
MvP, RoC official Nemesis

by Ausgiano on Dec 9, 2011 11:57 AM CST up reply actions  

of course, although we don't have chairs we have thrones.

"I try to shoot shots that I know are going to go in."
-Marcus Denmon

by ttt on Dec 9, 2011 6:19 PM CST up reply actions  

you have no idea, that's all he's ever sat in.

Never Forget Wolf Island, or pie. #AHAMF, it's vaguely sordid.

by Spider_Monkey on Dec 9, 2011 11:00 PM CST up reply actions  

Yep...

Upholding fine Mizzou traditions in Maryland.
MvP, RoC official Nemesis

by Ausgiano on Dec 10, 2011 11:23 AM CST up reply actions  

I was thinking this

this is a make or break moment. If letting it ride works, then it will surely bring about the end times known as the superfecta…and who am I to stop that?

by Monkeypox on Dec 9, 2011 12:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Bill I like the checklist.

Everything makes more sense in list form.

"I try to shoot shots that I know are going to go in."
-Marcus Denmon

by ttt on Dec 9, 2011 11:28 AM CST reply actions   1 recs

I will second this.

The checklist is great. I bet it lays out how to write up the game quicker too.

by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Dec 9, 2011 12:10 PM CST up reply actions  

That's original Trilogy right thar.

Never Forget Wolf Island, or pie. #AHAMF, it's vaguely sordid.

by Spider_Monkey on Dec 9, 2011 11:02 PM CST up reply actions  

Prince Tri-pod... fecta...

English
Denmon
Dixon

Top Heavy Beer Drinker

by DnrW on Dec 9, 2011 11:32 AM CST reply actions  

Tri this

English
Ratliffe
Denmon

by Jerilac on Dec 9, 2011 11:46 AM CST reply actions  

Denmon
Ratliffe
English

"When among evil companions, try to fit in." - Wild Bill Donovan

Rocky Balboa once told me, "Nothing is real if you don't believe in who you are."

by Kpz1234 on Dec 9, 2011 11:50 AM CST reply actions  

Go Navy, Beat Army! But, uhh...

not Go Navy in b-ball tomorrow. (Side: I’m shocked that the Navy athletic department has another sporting event even going on tomorrow. It seems weird.)

Ratliffe
English
Dixon

by CBonerfied on Dec 9, 2011 11:50 AM CST reply actions  

3 is a serious number

Denmoney
Kimmey
Ratliffey

Irish provenance of the schwa pronunciation of vowels in weakly stressed syllables -> Missoura

by totalloser on Dec 9, 2011 11:54 AM CST reply actions  

Three

Cardo
Denmon
English

Upholding fine Mizzou traditions in Maryland.
MvP, RoC official Nemesis

by Ausgiano on Dec 9, 2011 11:57 AM CST reply actions  

Denmon
English
Dixon

by P_Tiger on Dec 9, 2011 12:00 PM CST reply actions  

Denmon could put himself beside Melvin Booker

in MU lore with a league title run this year. Nothing will ever beat that 14-0 regular season, but if Mizzou brings home the championship in their last year in the league, Denmon will live in the collective imagination of Tiger hoops fans for years to come.

by Bivouac77 on Dec 9, 2011 12:01 PM CST reply actions  

An 18-0 run in our last big 12 season?

I think that might get close.

Top Heavy Beer Drinker

by DnrW on Dec 9, 2011 12:29 PM CST up reply actions  

GAH

don’t mention it!
/pleasehavemercyCOTG
//butthatwouldbesoeffingawesome

I believe in the The Black & Gold Standard

by Logan Hill on Dec 9, 2011 12:36 PM CST up reply actions  

Weis needs a Butthat to go with his...

Never Forget Wolf Island, or pie. #AHAMF, it's vaguely sordid.

by Spider_Monkey on Dec 9, 2011 11:05 PM CST up reply actions  

Not saying it will happen by any means.

I will bet the house that it will NOT happen.
I’m merely pointing out, that in a completely hypothetical situation, the above situation WOULD come close.

If you’re worried about COTG, we can sacrifice a lamb or chicken if you want.

Top Heavy Beer Drinker

by DnrW on Dec 9, 2011 1:16 PM CST up reply actions  

Trifecta

Flip
English
Steeeeeeeeeevvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvveeeeeeeeeeeeee

by sgravy524 on Dec 9, 2011 12:06 PM CST reply actions  

Trifecta

Denmon
English
Phil Pressey

by Team on Dec 9, 2011 12:07 PM CST reply actions  

What worries me about this team is if we get into a game like the WVU vs KSU game last night

When players are fouling out and we have to go deep into our bench. I noticed in a close contested match there with Nova, Coach Haith didn’t put Green in and I am glad he didn’t because I don’t think he’s looked ready to play in a game like that unless its an emergency. Our quality 7 deep will catch up to us sometime and it will be very interesting to see how we do when it does happen.

I know we are going to lose here sooner or later but its pretty damn exciting to see just how far Mizzou can take this winning streak into the season. Illinois is going to be a big test.

by M Krip on Dec 9, 2011 12:38 PM CST reply actions  

WOW Cam Newton bringin some heat
"What happens when you take a lion out of the safari and try to take him to your place of residence and make him a house pet? … It ain’t going to happen," Newton said. "That’s the type of person that I am. I’m that lion. The house that I’m in is somewhat of a tarnished house where losing is accepted. But I’m trying to change that, whether I’m going to have to turn that house into a safari or I’m just going to have to get out of that house."

"I’m not saying I’m trying to leave this place," Newton quickly continued. "I’m just trying to get everybody on my level."

http://aol.sportingnews.com/nfl/story/2011-12-07/cam-newton-carolina-panthers-rookie-quarterback-espn-interview#ixzz1g43ZrRvY

I believe in the The Black & Gold Standard

by Logan Hill on Dec 9, 2011 12:43 PM CST reply actions  

hope you're feeling better, that is NO fun.

Never Forget Wolf Island, or pie. #AHAMF, it's vaguely sordid.

by Spider_Monkey on Dec 9, 2011 11:09 PM CST up reply actions  

A bit

but that may be a Christmas party side affect. We will see what tomorrow morning brings

Thanks

by AlaTiger on Dec 9, 2011 11:54 PM CST up reply actions  

I like this idea too.

Given that we have this renewed focus on making sure our best players are involved in the game most, it actually seems like it would be very occasionally winnable.

"I try to shoot shots that I know are going to go in."
-Marcus Denmon

by ttt on Dec 9, 2011 6:24 PM CST up reply actions  

maybe the dingo ate yo' trifecta:

sutton
green
haith

In love with the new Gaknar avatar.

by threadkiller on Dec 9, 2011 1:02 PM CST reply actions  

cult tri

Moore
Sutton
Green

that’s right

Busting Bill C since September 19, 2011 10:19 CST, 8:19 PDT.

by mizzou2396 on Dec 9, 2011 1:02 PM CST reply actions  

i'd be willing to bet

this is the first time sutton was in back-to-back trifecta picks. or maybe even just more than once, period.

In love with the new Gaknar avatar.

by threadkiller on Dec 9, 2011 1:25 PM CST up reply actions  

It's like you cult leaders are holding hands.

It’s beautiful. (sniff sniff)

Never Forget Wolf Island, or pie. #AHAMF, it's vaguely sordid.

by Spider_Monkey on Dec 9, 2011 11:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Tri-ceratops

English
Denmon
Ratliff

by McZou on Dec 9, 2011 1:05 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

Trifecta and a question

Ratliffe
Soulcrusher
PPress

My question is sort of a two parter. Is there somewhere where AdjGs and Gs/Min stats are kept for players nationally? And as a follow up, if there is where is Marcus (or Ratliffe and English for that matter) coming in?

by shaffe on Dec 9, 2011 1:25 PM CST reply actions  

It's my own little creation, so no...not available anywhere.

KenPom’s got his individual ratings up now, though, so there’s that. (You have to subscribe now, however.)

by Bill C. on Dec 9, 2011 2:38 PM CST up reply actions  

Sounds like someone needs to make a spreadsheet

And pull the numbers from an online source. Y’know because you’ve got that kind of time…

by shaffe on Dec 9, 2011 5:23 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Honestly...

…if someone could unearth some batch file with everybody’s player stats, I’d happily do this. I’d love to see what it produces for the country as a whole. But I’m not going to copy-paste the stats of 300+ teams, so it needs to have already been done.

by Bill C. on Dec 9, 2011 6:25 PM CST up reply actions  

Denmon
Ratliffe
English

That's right Ice Man. I am dangerous
Pie Forever!

by drewder on Dec 9, 2011 1:37 PM CST reply actions  

Festivus fecta

Dixon
English
Phil

by HHKB Chris on Dec 9, 2011 2:00 PM CST via iPhone app reply actions  

Triforce

Denmoney
Dixon
RatCliffe

Proud Meth Aggie since 2011.

by Mac6uffin on Dec 9, 2011 2:02 PM CST reply actions  

We know this team’s ceiling — and now we know that its floor really isn’t all that low

Hey, that’s what I said too :)

Glory glory Man United, AND the other MU, AAAAnd the Leafs. Experiencing cheering whiplash for decades..

by Wan Ihite on Dec 9, 2011 2:04 PM CST reply actions   2 recs

surely it was a time zone confusion thing

Never Forget Wolf Island, or pie. #AHAMF, it's vaguely sordid.

by Spider_Monkey on Dec 9, 2011 11:14 PM CST up reply actions  

I’m learning to speak BillC pretty well :)

Glory glory Man United, AND the other MU, AAAAnd the Leafs. Experiencing cheering whiplash for decades..

by Wan Ihite on Dec 10, 2011 6:55 PM CST up reply actions  

On the Tri State

Lord Baltimore
Flippy Cup
Mason Dixon

by MUPete on Dec 9, 2011 2:09 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

1,2,3

Denmon
Ratliffe
English

"Let schoolmasters puzzle their brain, With grammar, and nonsense, and learning; Good liquor, I stoutly maintain, Gives genius a better discerning." – Oliver Goldsmith

by 1Believer on Dec 9, 2011 2:10 PM CST reply actions  

Trifecta

Ricardo Ratliffe
Kim English
Marcus Denmon

by StopSpe on Dec 9, 2011 2:41 PM CST reply actions  

ot:

rgIII is the favorite to win the heisman tomorrow night. anybody know what the record is for heisman winner with the most losses? i think it was hornung for nd, but not sure. seems like 3 losses is pretty high for a heisman winner.

In love with the new Gaknar avatar.

by threadkiller on Dec 9, 2011 2:43 PM CST reply actions  

I'm pretty sure the Irish were 2-8 when Hornung won

Can’t imagine anyone from a team with a worse record winning it

by AlaTiger on Dec 9, 2011 3:51 PM CST up reply actions  

Tebow was 9-3

When he beat Chase Daniel in 2007, 9-4 if you count the bowl game. And yeah I know Chase didn’t come in 2nd, just for a point of reference

by Team on Dec 9, 2011 3:58 PM CST up reply actions  

at least uf is a powerhouse.

3 losses on a team such as baylor strikes me as odd. i mean, hot tub is good, but i don’t think he deserves quite this much love.

In love with the new Gaknar avatar.

by threadkiller on Dec 9, 2011 4:09 PM CST up reply actions  

I'd think that 3 losses at a powerhouse would be a negative

That a powerhouse should be undefeated or 1-loss.

Baylor having a season of 3 losses is amazing. But I understand the powerhouse thing with more recognizable players earlier in the season.

by Team on Dec 9, 2011 4:59 PM CST up reply actions  

He beat OU, TCU, and UT.

Give it to him baby.

Never Forget Wolf Island, or pie. #AHAMF, it's vaguely sordid.

by Spider_Monkey on Dec 9, 2011 11:17 PM CST up reply actions  

if he got hurt

Would Baylor been in any of those games? It comes down to him and Luck, IMO, because of that qualifier. And you give it Hot Tub because his impact was just a hair greater. Again, in my opinion.

Upholding fine Mizzou traditions in Maryland.
MvP, RoC official Nemesis

by Ausgiano on Dec 10, 2011 9:25 AM CST via iPhone app up reply actions  

Tri

Denmon
English
Ratliffe

by JSchoey on Dec 9, 2011 2:46 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

My-fecta

Denmon
Dixon
English

I think we'll reconcile it by winning!
-Kim English

by Jack618 on Dec 9, 2011 2:50 PM CST reply actions  

Looking forward to Navy...

First game I’m going to this year and first game ever for my 8 year old nephew! His dad is a Navy vet — kid has no qualms about rooting for Mizzou. Should be a good time. With any luck, he walks out wanting to be the next Marcus Denmon. Or the next Mike Kelly. Either one would be fine with me.

by switzy227 on Dec 9, 2011 3:39 PM CST reply actions  

Good call

I will also accept the next Truman. Or the next Bill C., Henry Josey, or Jon Hamm (forever).

by switzy227 on Dec 9, 2011 4:09 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Tryfecta plus

Denmon
Ratliffe
English

Plus… All starters are pulled with 5 minutes left

by blackgoldorange on Dec 9, 2011 3:45 PM CST reply actions  

Triptych

Cardo
Flip
STEEEEEVE

Denmon for the superfecta, with a perfectly serviceable game that leaves us feeling vaguely unsatisfied.

by Belegcam on Dec 9, 2011 4:42 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

Art history rec

Every been to the Cloisters?

by AlaTiger on Dec 9, 2011 11:56 PM CST up reply actions  

/vaguely satisfied

Never Forget Wolf Island, or pie. #AHAMF, it's vaguely sordid.

by Spider_Monkey on Dec 10, 2011 12:08 AM CST up reply actions  

TriKIMENGLISHfecta

English
English
English

I’m becoming more and more of a Kimmie fan.

Cheering on the Mizzou Tigers in TX since 2011. Also the San Jose Sharks.

by efaithfarm on Dec 9, 2011 5:16 PM CST reply actions  

I'll be at Army/Navy this Saturday...

I fear that my Black Knights chances of beating the squids on the grid-iron might leave me a little upset…. however, I am pumped to know that they are going to get destroyed by my Tigers on the hardwood….

Go Army (and Mizzou). Beat Navy.

by WeWantTheFunk13 on Dec 9, 2011 6:27 PM CST reply actions  

tri

Denmon
Pressey
English

#teamchilipie

by leeaustex on Dec 9, 2011 6:41 PM CST reply actions  

Tri a Fecta, everyone has

Denmon
Ratliffe
English

by MizzouRugby on Dec 9, 2011 6:42 PM CST via iPhone app reply actions  

So I just donated a bowl ticket, but why

does Ticketmaster actually assign a seat for the donated ticket? Wouldn’t it be more efficient to consolidate the donated tickets, so that the donated seats could be together?

Irish provenance of the schwa pronunciation of vowels in weakly stressed syllables -> Missoura

by totalloser on Dec 9, 2011 6:49 PM CST reply actions  

must be their accounting system

The donated tickets could still be in the same area. Did you donate more than 1? Are they together?

by mhbtiger on Dec 9, 2011 7:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Never mind, I just didn't look at the seat carefully.

Section TBD4, 8 (I get it now, d’uh).

Irish provenance of the schwa pronunciation of vowels in weakly stressed syllables -> Missoura

by totalloser on Dec 9, 2011 7:10 PM CST up reply actions  

tri tri tri to win the trifecta

denmon
ratliffe
english

"He’s not a great golden god come from the sky. He’s a fucking baseball player."

-the red baron

by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 9, 2011 7:05 PM CST reply actions  

yeah that's something I've been wondering.

I have heard absolutely nothing about his NBA prospects.

"I try to shoot shots that I know are going to go in."
-Marcus Denmon

by ttt on Dec 9, 2011 8:44 PM CST up reply actions  

His best shot is as a reserve point guard

The typical NBA shooting guard now is 6’6". It’s a league of physical freaks.

by Michael Atchison on Dec 9, 2011 9:52 PM CST up reply actions  

One current NBA player that gives me some hope for Denmon's prospects

is Ben Gordon. Very similar in height/build both are listed at 6-3 and were capable of lighting it up from distance in college. Problem is Gordon can’t defend to save his life and who knows if GMs will continue to shy away from small SGs. Then again, Stephen Curry played well last year so there are a few exceptions

by Hapgrass on Dec 9, 2011 10:17 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, you'd think he'd at least be valuable as a sharpshooter

Coming off the bench as a spark plug (kind of like Mike Dixon’s role this year). :)
Maybe be able to play a little of both guard spots, I mean Steve Kerr won 5 championships….
I just really hope he gets a shot, it seems he really plays with alot of heart and passion. He would obviously be a shoo-in to play overseas if he so desires.

by adogzilla on Dec 9, 2011 10:10 PM CST reply actions  

live and in person fecta

English
P. Pressey
Ratliffe

I'm tell ya like the bath tub told the toilet stool, " I get as much ass as you but I don't have to take all that shit!"
-Dolemite

by tiemmel on Dec 9, 2011 11:08 PM CST reply actions  

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What do Tigers dream of when they take a little Tiger snooze? Do they dream of mauling Jayhawks, Or Todd Reesing in his sod helmet suit? Don’t you get in a self-loathing funk, We’re gonna start this party with a Lawrence Bowers dunk, And then we’re gonna find Kimmeh’s shot too, And bring a victory back to the Zou! Zou, Zou, oh back to the Zou! But if we keep shooting the three like we have been… Then we’re shit outta luck

by darklighter09 on Dec 10, 2011 9:55 AM CST reply actions  

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"I try to shoot shots that I know are going to go in."
-Marcus Denmon

by ttt on Dec 10, 2011 10:46 AM CST reply actions  

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by Brad W on Dec 10, 2011 10:59 AM CST reply actions  

Just throwing it out there.

One of my close friends goes to Auburn and can’t talk enough about Earnest Ross. I wonder what kind of contribution he and the other transfer (Keion Bell?) are making in practice, pick up games. etc. Thoughts?

by jrfulmer on Dec 10, 2011 12:14 PM CST reply actions  

What kind of stuff does your friend say?

I haven’t seen any video of him. Just looking at his stats from his sophomore year, he didn’t have overwhelming shooting percentages (but Auburn’s team was bad enough that those might not mean that much). He rebounded a lot and got to the line some, so it seems like he tended to play around the rim.
Bell didn’t shoot great either, but got to the line a lot, and turned the ball over a ton (glad we have Phil to handle the ball for two more years).
Now that I look at these guys stats, I wonder if we are going to have anyone next year who can hang out on the perimeter and knock down threes on kickouts, because it doesn’t look like it’s either of their game. Mike Dixon hasn’t been lighting the world on fire.

"I try to shoot shots that I know are going to go in."
-Marcus Denmon

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