Mike Anderson's Short Legacy: Mizzou Matters Again
by Bill C. on Mar 23, 2011 8:11 PM CDT
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PrintThis website exists, in part, because of the coaching vacancy that Mike Anderson filled. The event, and the embarrassing internet-related firestorm that followed ('Fire Mike Alden' petitions, et al), set in motion the chain of events that led to me first starting Mizzou Sanity, then contacting SB Nation about their lack of a Mizzou site and being paired with RPT.
The Mizzou Athletic Department may have reached its nadir in 2003-04, as Roots-gate led to "Them Crackers Shaking" and most of the other events topping this list, but it took Quin Snyder's awkward dismissal to make Mizzou fans lose whatever was left of their minds. Despite the football team's Independence Bowl comeback in late-2005, Winter-Spring 2006 was one of the most negative times to ever have been a Missouri fan.
To that end, Mike Anderson brought the most important possible characteristic to Columbia in his five years here: positivity. There were plenty of less than positive moments, from Athenagate to a "disappointing" 23-win season this year, but in five years, Anderson gave hope to Missouri fans that they could once again cheer on a winning program. Not only that, but he created that winning program. We went from Popcorn-gate to said "disappointing" tourney appearance in just half a decade.
We've heard a lot about Missouri winning more games in the last three games and ever before, and while that stat is inflated by the fact that teams simply play more games now ... Mizzou won a lot of games. And Anderson leaves the program in infinitely better shape than he found it.
- When Anderson Arrived, Mizzou...
...had gone 44-47 in three previous seasons.
...returned almost no proven talent whatsoever.
...was on probation.
...had one scholarship to offer in Anderson's first full season of recruiting.
...had an average home attendance of 8,370 the previous season. - When the next coach arrives, Mizzou...
...will have gone 77-29 in three previous seasons, with four NCAA tournament wins.
...will likely return five players who averaged 10 PPG or more.
...is most certainly not on probation.
...will likely have six seniors on next year's squad, likely preventing program collapse.
...will have between six and 10 scholarships to give in the first full year of recruiting*.
...had an average home attendance of 10,349 this season.
* Do not underestimate how instrumental this can be in allowing a new coach to build his foundation. If Mizzou hires a coach who brings in a fast-paced, pressure style (a Shaka Smart type), then maybe this isn't a big deal. But if Mizzou brings in somebody with a different type of identity, then he will be able to very quickly build that identity in his image. And coaches tend to receive a little bit of a 'grace period' from recruits when it comes to selling players on "I'm going to build a winner there!" before he's had a chance to prove that he will or won't. There might be a step backwards, but Mizzou's current roster portends a quick rebuild if the right hire is made.
No matter how angry, annoyed and/or betrayed Mizzou fans may feel right now, we will all almost certainly look back at the Mike Anderson Era as a success one day. He may not have been what we thought -- he was a stopgap instead of Norm Stewart's "true" long-term successor (there is no true long-term successor for Norm, not these days ... five years almost is long-term) -- but he propped the program up against decent odds, and he made Mizzou care about and believe in quality basketball again.
We can justifiably resent everything about how the last week was handled, but despite a semi-nasty break-up, this was, overall, a relatively strong five-year relationship. Resent him for leaving, resent him for vowing to "retire here" less than a week ago, and resent him for the games his agent played (on his behalf, clearly), but do not resent him for the job he did in simply making Mizzou matter.
To Mizzou fans full of anger, sadness or both right now, remember two things above all else:
- This is not "typical Mizzou" or in any way unique to this university or this fanbase. I know we like to add everything to some ongoing list of disappointments as proof that we are more tortured than most, but coaching changes happen. In fact, Anderson had already racked up the fourth-longest tenure in the Big 12. For three decades with Norm, Mizzou was the oddity. Now they're just like everybody else. Coaches leave and plans change; it's how you deal with those changes that defines your long-term program success. And Mike Alden has given nobody a reason to believe he won't make an equally strong hire this next time around.
- The last time Missouri lost a major coach to a college school (Arkansas, naturally), Don Faurot replaced Frank Broyles with ... Dan Devine, the most successful coach in Mizzou football history.
There are short-term questions, of course, most of which we will be discussing in great detail soon enough. Who replaces Anderson? Does Flip Pressey stay? Are there any unexpected departures? Who does the new guy sign with limited time this spring? We will find out the answers soon enough, but we first say goodbye to a coach who cut his Mizzou legacy short to continue one somewhere else. We will all feel angry about this, but then we will move on, and years from now, we will view the Anderson Era as a positive experience.
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So how long before we can begin the coaching speculation?
First name that comes to mind: Kim Anderson.
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by CPC on Mar 23, 2011 8:15 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
I hate to say it..
but I am totally underwhelmed by the thought of Kim Anderson. Or anyone else currently coaching IN Missouri.
"When among evil companions, try to fit in." - Wild Bill Donovan
I think he's a good coach..
If you don't have time to do it right, when will you have time to do it over?
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by lost..in the woods on Mar 23, 2011 8:18 PM CDT up reply actions
By the time I got into it
it was too long to bother with…Cliff’s Notes?
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It depends on how good the next hire is.
If another Quin shows up, Anderson’s work can be undone. However, I’m confident in Alden to make a good hire. If the next coach builds on Anderson’s foundation here, I think this era was a success. But I don’t think I’ll be able to look back on Mike Anderson as a person and say he is a great, honest person who puts family above all else.
Ignoring anger...
Give me your dream candidate……
Then your top 3 realistic candidates. Mine:
Dream: Brad Stevens
Realistic:
1. Anthony Grant
2. Shaka Smart
3. Chris Mooney
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Those 3 guys are awesome. Some other good guys to think about:
Cuonzo Martin at Missouri State
Greg Marshall at Wichita State
Idea Stealer!
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by lost..in the woods on Mar 23, 2011 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Dream is definitely Brad Stevens, 99.999% he won't be leaving Butler any time soon
1. Shaka Smart
2. Chris Mooney
3. Cuonzo Martin
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by ratherfantastic on Mar 23, 2011 8:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Taking Cuonzo Martin would crack me up
I don’t really want him, but it would be hilarious in light of what all of my SMS friends are saying about this situation right now.
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I can't keep noting that I really know nothing
Switch Martin with St. Mary’s HC and let’s call it a day :-)
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by ratherfantastic on Mar 23, 2011 8:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Here's my list so far...
1. Brad Stevens ( I know… dream candidate though)
2. Randy Bennett
3. Chris Mooney
4. Anthony Grant
5. Shaka Smart
by mizzousundevil on Mar 23, 2011 8:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Anthony Grant would be interesting
Trevor Releford is a KC native, right?
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by ratherfantastic on Mar 23, 2011 8:28 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm not really familiar with any of the potential coaching candidates.
Is there a chance RMN might run a feature talking a little bit about a few of them for those of us that might be a little less informed?
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I can't speak for them...
But I would be SHOCKED if you dont have one tomorrow or the next day.
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But seriously, I would root for the team, but not for him.
And if he brought in bad people like he does at Kansas, I’d call for him to get fired even if he was winning.
He'd be steaming mad for a while
then someone would point out that you could see this as stealing Kansas’ coach, so really we’re sticking it to the beakers by having him.
And then all of a sudden he would start saying things like “How many other programs have a coach who’s won a title” and beating his chest a little, and it’d be all downhill running from there.
Mike Anderson
I was in your corner before you ever coached a game. You were the coach I wanted before Quin Snyder was ever fired. I saw your brand of basketball, hard working defense and guys that had a blast playing the game. You were always #1 on my list and I was thrilled when you were actually offered the job and accepted.
You’re leaving on very very tough terms and a lot of people scratching their heads, including me. I’m not bitter, I love my job and the people I work for and with, but I live in Texas, if I was offerered a lateral job in Missouri I would probably take it even though I’ve told my boss I’ll be here at least 2 more years. The rage people have now will subside a little and people will realize how you brought us back to national respectability from the depths of college basketball. There are some that will never forgive or forget. I won’t forget, but I just can’t hate you. I’m disappointed, yes, and I really wanted you to be here for the next 20 years, but nevertheless, I wish you luck, but not so much luck that Arkansas is better at basketball than Mizzou in the future.
I hope you realize though that the pressure to win in Fayetteville is much much greater now than it ever was in Columbia. You’ll get more time because you are and Arkansas guy just because you were an assistant there for so many years. The pressure of returning home is always a lot more difficult once your there than the dream before hand.
With that said if Mizzou and Arkansas ever cross paths in basketball I can’t wait to show you what you’ve left behind.
by Team on Mar 23, 2011 8:19 PM CDT reply actions 8 recs
I don't hate him either.
I am just sad.
Hope none of the players leave.
by tigers and chiefs fan on Mar 23, 2011 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Like I said...20%
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To be fair...
You’ve been pissed at Mizzou basketball quite often in your RMN tenure.
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early odds on
the younger Pressey leaving?
by infallibleopiniongenerator on Mar 24, 2011 1:48 AM CDT up reply actions
It's impossible to hate CMA.
If he is making the decision that is best for him and his family then I can’t have a problem with it.
You don't have to come and confess, we lookin' for you, we gon' find you, we gon' find you. So you can run and tell that, Homeboy.
Pressure higher in Fayetteville?
I find that hard to believe.
It's not the size of the dog in the fight; it's the size of the fight in the dog.
- Mark Twain
Anyone stop to think?
This is all probably one elaborate April fools joke. Ya got us. Good one!
9 days early lol
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by lost..in the woods on Mar 23, 2011 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions
He probably didn't want to do it on PI day, because it would ruin an awesome holiday for people.
And if he did it on April Fools Day, nobody would take him seriously. As a compromise, he did it exactly between the two holidays.
I was at his retirement press conference
I was on 63 going home from work and I heard it mentioned on the radio, so I hauled ass over to Hearnes and watched it. Sad day.
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So it appears...
… that as you were writing this, I was writing this.
You win.
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by RPT on Mar 23, 2011 8:20 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
you two could be married.
don’t you guys ever communicate?
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by threadkiller on Mar 23, 2011 8:45 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't think he'd....
cheat on the Beef like that.
by Mrs. Bill C on Mar 23, 2011 9:13 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 2 recs
you and bill's mom
are just one big rec-fest. seriously funny stuff.
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by threadkiller on Mar 24, 2011 7:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Mizzou Softball beat KU twice tonight...
So theres that…
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Well on our way to a 5th straight Border Showdown series win
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by Transmogrified Tiger on Mar 23, 2011 8:26 PM CDT up reply actions
on the MId-Missouri CW
through KOMU news cast
You've never heard of RockMNation then you must not be a real fan.
by bigtexas@mizzou on Mar 23, 2011 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions
You know what, it's a basketball coach
I have a friend who filed for divorce and another who lost his wife to cancer this week. I can’t get that torqued about this one way or another.
by jschooltiger on Mar 23, 2011 8:25 PM CDT reply actions 5 recs
Amen, brotha.
"I like to think of myself as Miguel Paul. Generally disappointing and a waste of space, but every once in a while, WOW."- ghtd36
Plus
He’s leaving us to go back home. It’s not like someone dangled insane money in front of him, and we just couldn’t keep up with the bidding. I’d be pissed at that. If someone just wants to go back to their home of 17 years, I don’t take that personally. It’s a human decision from a human guy.
right
I’m likely going to move to another state pretty soon, for a substantial raise. I love Mizzou and I’ve loved working here, but I need to do this for my family. When I come back — and I will — it’s not going to be a slap on where we’re going.
by jschooltiger on Mar 23, 2011 8:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Shaka Smart scares me
He’s been a head coach for 2 years, lost 20 games, and players he’s recruited as head coach played less than 25% of their minutes this year. I think we’ve earned the right to aim a little higher.
Mooney intrigues me quite a bit, although really, without a thorough look into a coach and his tactics, it’s hard to tell. I would like someone who has been a head coach long enough to have actually coached a team full of his recruits though. Anything less and I’d be very worried.
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by Transmogrified Tiger on Mar 23, 2011 8:25 PM CDT reply actions
He is also 8-0 in the post season...
And runs a smilar style so the program wouldnt miss a beat.
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Considering our roster composition I'm not really worried about the program missing a beat
Likewise, winning the CBI doesn’t do much to move the needle either.
That said, Smart might be a great coach and turn Mizzou into a power. I’m saying that as a candidate he makes me apprehensive because of his lack of experience and the fact that he didn’t have much longevity as an assistant.
"I'm a genius, but I'm a misunderstood genius."
"What's misunderstood about you?"
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by Transmogrified Tiger on Mar 23, 2011 8:30 PM CDT up reply actions
I understand that.
But Anderson had not had a full roster at UAB. I definately see where your coming from. I do really like Anthony Grant though. Did great things at VCU, and anyone can see how he turned that Bama team around from the beginning of the year to the end.
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I'm with TT
everybody is saying he’s so proven, but…he’s really not. He’s a coach that won the CBI and is on a hot streak.
Don’t get me wrong, he’s promising, but everyone’s been very, very quick to anoint him.
Well, those who are saying Kim Anderson and Cuonzo Martin
aren’t aiming higher than Shaka Smart.
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I know next to nothing about coaches. I’m just throwing names out there as I see them.
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by ratherfantastic on Mar 23, 2011 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions
I know nothing about this guy
But I hope we hire this ‘Shaka Smart’ so that I can play this before every game: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObjLb6ElTvs
There are now eight coaches who make $2.2M or more
Calipari ($4M) 2 FFs (vacated)
Izzo ($3.4M) 6 FFs, one title
Donovan ($3.3M) 3 FFs, two titles
Self ($3M) 1 FF, one title (how does he only have one FF)
Matta ($2.5M) 1 FF, staring at a possible title
Pitino ($2.25M), 5 FFs, one title
Coach K ($2.2M), 11 FFs, four titles
Anderson ($2.2M) …
Try not to take me too seriously
One of these is not like the others
Try not to take me too seriously
ok how is Coach K only making 2.2 mill
That’s ridiculous.
by mizzousundevil on Mar 23, 2011 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions
OK, two of these are not like the others
One is Coach K.
Try not to take me too seriously
he has a regenerating contract though
get’s a new year every year. He’s also one of those “special adviser to the president” too.
Also, private school, so they could be paying him more.
What do you mean I can't retire at 32?
The last point is the key one
I strongly suspect there’s some other compensation in there.
by Professor Chaos on Mar 23, 2011 10:25 PM CDT up reply actions
He's making probably two or three times that
outside of his salary from endorsements alone.
to be fair, self should have two FF's. he just left a year too early.
by stlcardinalsfang on Mar 23, 2011 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Don't buy it
For one, getting to Kansas at that point in time was the key to recruiting the players who brought him the title. For two, he has a history of bombing out in the tournament. Who’s to say he could have gotten Illinois that far?
Try not to take me too seriously
because illinois was f*cking good.
i could have coached that team to the final four.
by stlcardinalsfang on Mar 23, 2011 8:31 PM CDT up reply actions
“Ok guys. And want you to go out there and play basketball. Just go and do all that basketball stuff, and don’t stop doing it til the game’s over. Just do it real good.”
So could I :)
exactly.
“dee, you dribble the ball up the court and shoot threes and stuff. james, you hangout in the post and wait for a pass and then do your thing. deron, just be deron. roger and luther, play basketball and stuff. go get ’em!”
by stlcardinalsfang on Mar 23, 2011 8:36 PM CDT up reply actions
If the comments on RockM were any indication of the strength of an athletic program (or BBall team)
Mizzou would be crushing the ark SB site by a total of Infinity to 60 (yes I counted the comments for every MA story they had there)
They don't even like basketball there.
Although I guess RockMNation didn’t look so great either during Anderson’s first two years.
I have renewed respect for KSDK (Channel 5 STL):
#cuonzoera Someone who wants to be here needs to be the next hire. #mizzou is not a stepping stone
takes a first class man to leave his best friends kids, 6 seniors and duck out without facing the media. Good riddance #dueces
by StopSpe on Mar 23, 2011 8:31 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Probably would be worse for us
would have to start a basketball program from basically absolutely nothing
The timing now makes Anderson look terrible, but for the team and Missouri basketball
it’s actually a pretty good situation. Lots of scholarships means the new coach will be able to get his players in fast.
Does it make Anderson look terrible?
I mean, if you’re leaving to go back home, and you know you are going to go, then the nicest thing you can do is leave at a time that is maximally beneficial for the place you’re going to be jilting. If he’s leaving us in a better place, then good for him.
Eh, the new coach would have had a more instant opportunity
to put his imprint on the program that way.
i really really really hope he did leave his best friends kids...
cuz i’m not sure sure he is.
capital letters suck.
by soccerfreak on Mar 24, 2011 12:58 AM CDT up reply actions
yeah, i'm more disappointed in the possibility
of missing out on P Pressey going Globetrotter for MU for the next three years
by infallibleopiniongenerator on Mar 24, 2011 1:53 AM CDT up reply actions
And next they will tell me . . .
. . . there really was no Camelot or King Arthur, Don Quixote was the figment of someone’s imagination, and Annette Funicello didn’t really like ME, she was just talking into a camera.
Like you, I will always give Mike Anderson credit for turning our program around and making MU basketball once again respectable . . . and often feared. But, I can never respect the man after the charade that has been played out. I have been taught since childhood that a man was true to his word, regardless the degree of pain or loss one might experience in the process of staying true. I taught that to my children; and I will maintain that for the remainder of my life with God’s help.
Regardless Anderson’s actions of the past few days – maybe, years? – I will put my trust again in the next coach, hoping against hope that there still is honor in our world.
Go Mizzou!
by countrycal on Mar 23, 2011 8:33 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
the more time i spend on twitter, the less i like arkansas fans.
but then again that would probably be the same with any school that hired a mizzou coach away.
by stlcardinalsfang on Mar 23, 2011 8:34 PM CDT reply actions
The more time I spend on Twitter...
… the less I like ANY sports fans.
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The more time I spend on twitter...
…the less I like twitter.
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the more time I spend on the Internet, etc.
though RMN is the exception
by jschooltiger on Mar 23, 2011 8:35 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I personally know an Arkansas fan who has likely never watched a basketball game in his life
who I really dread seeing soon. I’m thinking about wearing my 2008 Cotton Bowl shirt just so he doesn’t talk to me.
Dear RMN...
The first name on Gabe’s list at PowerMizzou…
BUZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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That would be hilarious and I would not care about the douchey past
As long as he isn’t like the last coach to leave Marquette
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by ratherfantastic on Mar 23, 2011 8:38 PM CDT up reply actions
crean? shoot, i'd take crean right now over buzz.
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by threadkiller on Mar 23, 2011 8:52 PM CDT up reply actions
I have to think he's bound for Oklahoma...
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by UribeAuction on Mar 23, 2011 8:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Why would he leave a Big East school anyway?
Everyone assumes he’s as good as gone…is there something I’m missing about Marquette or his contract?
Interesting name I didn't think of....
What about Chris Mack? Do you think he is waiting for a better gig? I think this would be a home run hire.
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by ratherfantastic on Mar 23, 2011 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions
I was wondering when this name was going to come up.
I am NOT an expert on basketball coaches, but I’m on board there.
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Mack
I live in Cincinnati. Xavier is kind of my adopted 2nd team. Mack is a heck of a coach, though he has only been the head guy for 2 years. That said, I don’t see him leaving Xavier right now. He is from Cincinnati, played at Xavier, his wife is from Cincinnati etc. Unlike some of X’s past coaches, I think Xavier is truly his dream job. Neither Sean Miller or Thad Matta had any long-term ties to Xavier or the city. Mack has both.
Im such a sentimentalist
I feel that MA did what he had to do to go home.
just… cant blame him too much. it sucks hard, but i dont think this was a big “F U” to the team and to mizzou. he just wanted to go home.
If he wanted to go home, he'd have stayed here.
Because according to Mike Anderson, Columbia is his home. His wife’s happy here. He’s happy here. He’s all about being happy. He wants to retire here.
when I lived in Carolina, it was my home
I was happy there, and my wife was happy there, and I might want to retire there. Doesn’t mean I wouldn’t go to Missouri for a better job, or somewhere else after this for a better job.
by jschooltiger on Mar 23, 2011 8:53 PM CDT up reply actions
so, what's the format of this press conference? and who's talking?
by stlcardinalsfang on Mar 23, 2011 8:43 PM CDT reply actions
Denmon and English are going to be speaking.
And I assume Mike Alden will lead it off. It’s just to announce that mike anderson left and that the coaching search is beginning.
kimmie and denmon have said they'll talk afterwards
assuming this won’t be like when they fired quin, that conference was a joke. They just read the press release and didn’t take answer any questions.
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So will this light a fire under the team for next year?
Especially with the new Big 12 schedule starting next year, I really don’t see that much chance of too much success. Even with 6 seniors, could be bleak.
OR
it could be the next great sports movie about adversity and the underdog team going all the way
in all honesty, a lot depends on phil pressey.
if the six seniors all see an uptick in their play AND pressey stays AND porter signs with mizzou, we could still have a lot of success next year.
if the six seniors continue to underperform AND pressey jumps to arkansas AND we don’t get porter, i smell NIT. maybe.
by stlcardinalsfang on Mar 23, 2011 8:47 PM CDT up reply actions
if pressey stays
he will become a state hero and we will construct a statue of him in from of mizzou arena
at least it won't cost very much..
…small statue.
by tigr on Mar 23, 2011 8:49 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Also depends on what recruits the new coach can bring in.
If Kadeem Green is healthy, and we get another forward, I think we’ll be fine. NIT is definitely not likely unless this team completely collapses. Funny things happen when juniors become seniors. Just look at St. John’s this year. Or Mizzou football’s secondary last season.
Too early to say that
not knowing who the coach or any of the recruits are.
The cupboard is far from bare. I’m excited for the future.
I think this has been in the works for a while now, and help explains some of the strange affect this team displayed toward the end. The coach was detached, the players dejected, etc. I did respect MA, but do not anymore. I should have known: A coach that talks about his “brand” is about marketing and money above all else. And it’s working for him. Get rich quick, Mike.
Arky isn't giving him that much more money
and when you’re looking at whether your home school is willing to hire you, brand matters. Sad but true.
It’s when brand becomes an end in itself and/or the crazy pay day, THAT is sad.
My girlfriend said the same thing
I thought she was naive because she only watches games when she has no choice. I think I’m coming around to her (and your) theory, though.
You can all watch the presser at 9...
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by MUTIGERS86 on Mar 23, 2011 8:46 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
No, I think we just played poorly.
Looking at the faces of all our players after we lost to Cincinnati, they clearly wanted to win and left everything on the floor.
s**t stirring spin on this:
they were trying so hard, because if they won MA wouldnt leave them and they would be happy and live together and get married and have children
ESPN's Michael Kim:
I just received this text message from Mike Anderson on leaving #Mizzou for #Arkansas: “It was a tough decision.”
Sure it was…
What do you mean I can't retire at 32?
lol a text message.
lol he’s not showing to the presser.
lol he bolted from the earlier thing.
lol him claiming it was a “tough decision”
by stlcardinalsfang on Mar 23, 2011 8:50 PM CDT up reply actions
No out-going coach anywhere has ever showed up to his old school's press conference
Not counting retiring coaches, obviously
Try not to take me too seriously
by calim on Mar 23, 2011 8:51 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
you wouldn't be happy
even if he did go to the press conference. he knows neither would anyone else. so what would he have to gain by going?
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by threadkiller on Mar 23, 2011 9:00 PM CDT up reply actions
I agree with this sentiment.
via @JetJetJetJet Mike Anderson not being in attendance for tonight’s press conference, kinda feels like getting broken up with via-text message. #Mizzou.
……….I feel he is just making it worse by not hanging around to answer questions/give us a little respect. He may have saved our program. But we did also help is career a good amount.
yea i kinda wish he was there
so someone, holding back tears, could ask “WHY MIKE, WHY? I BELIEVED IN YOU”
So...
I’ve spent the last couple hours very angry. I understand why he went and that he had every right to do so. The way it went down, though, is leaving a really bad taste in my mouth. What is making me feel better?
Well, I will always be appreciative for the hole he brought us out of. Its been great to have 20+ win seasons the last few years, the Elite Eight team was so much fun and a recent high point…but, guess who isnt playing any more right now? We just went out first round, were an 11 seed, lost 5 of the last 6 (the only win being TECH, bleh), won just ONE conf road game (ISU, lol), and finished in the bottom half of the conference.
He wasn’t able to pull it together this season. And while I realize that one disappointing season isn’t reason enough to be over someone…
CMA had one awesome season (and that one didn’t even reach the Final Four), two goodish season, and a couple very mediocre ones.
We’re not losing a coach that brought us championships (although who knows what the future held). He brought us back into a good place, but didn’t take us to the top. Lets get some perspective and get excited for what comes next.
by DC_Tiger on Mar 23, 2011 8:49 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
KK from 810 just dropped a straight Twitter Bomb
Seen a lot of things but I don’t remember a coach burying a friend, an employer and 15 players in the same day.
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by ratherfantastic on Mar 23, 2011 8:51 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
the funeral was on Tuesday
but carry on
by jschooltiger on Mar 23, 2011 9:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Yikes!
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A very good day...
But NOWHERE close to MIZZOUEXPANSIONAPALOOZA™ as far as page views are concerned. That was a ridiculous stretch for RMN.
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I really hope Alden's first call tomorrow morning is to the ark AD
Asking him when and where he would like to play bball next year. I hope for the seniors next year they get a chance to stand up for themselves and settle this on the court
if mizzou and arkansas ever play each other in mizzou arena...
anderson’s getting booed. i guarantee it.
by stlcardinalsfang on Mar 23, 2011 8:58 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't think thats much of a stretch
It wouldn’t surprise me if the fans throw trash at him like they did to the refs at the ku game a few years back.
it would be great
if we could just give him the biggest silent treatment ever for the introductions.
So I thought about this for the past ten minutes...
And consider me driving the Chris Mack bandwagon.
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by UribeAuction on Mar 23, 2011 9:01 PM CDT up reply actions
DOOR DOOR DOOR!
And Blumberg was chasing Anderson around like Kentucky chasing Gillispie today.
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Is it going?
All I have is a dark shot of what appears to be Mizzou Arena, no sound
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by ratherfantastic on Mar 23, 2011 9:02 PM CDT reply actions
How could you smile at a time like this?
orange shirt guy.
by searchyourfeelingsyouknowittobetrue on Mar 23, 2011 9:03 PM CDT reply actions
kfru why are you on commercial?
Sleepy was saying something!
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by Other Side of the Pillow on Mar 23, 2011 9:04 PM CDT reply actions
Where is the loyalty!?!?
That’s totally what I’m asking.
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
Oh, I meant because that female reporter
was live right outside Big 12. And I live a block from there.
by TheHamburglar on Mar 23, 2011 9:06 PM CDT up reply actions
This feed is awful
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by ratherfantastic on Mar 23, 2011 9:05 PM CDT reply actions
STOPLIGHT UPDATE
so is anyone else watching news about a stop light?
by WeWantTheFunk13 on Mar 23, 2011 9:06 PM CDT reply actions
Cool I can make a left turn at Wal-Mart in the town I don't live in.
GET TO THE PRESS CONFERENCE
Umm KMIZ just reported that
John Kadalac (sp) wife’s passed tonight.
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I was coming on here to post that
Coach Kadlec is one of my favorite people associated with Mizzou Athletics. My thoughts and prayers to him and his family.
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Well, I'm 0-2
I thought Mizzou would go to the Big Ten and I thought ma would stay. I am the George Costanza of the Mizzou family.
For my next trick, I predict that Mizzou will not win a football National Championship this year.
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cuuuuuuuuuuu
stanza!
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by threadkiller on Mar 23, 2011 9:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Remember
COTG = Crazy Old Testament God, but it also means Curse Of The Gaknar…
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so....uh..... press conference fail....
by WeWantTheFunk13 on Mar 23, 2011 9:08 PM CDT reply actions
KTGR or KFRU
are streaming it also
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Bowers, Kimmie and Denmon in attendence.
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Extension talks began 5 months ago
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It keeps skipping! Agghh!
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by ratherfantastic on Mar 23, 2011 9:10 PM CDT reply actions
I am done
I have tried to stay positive. I have tried to act like Mike Anderson was some class act. He wasn’t. He isn’t anything. He’s just another guy who does nothing but lie and betray to get what he wants.
I hear people saying “if I was in the same situation, I would do it too.” I wouldn’t. I have too much integrity to lie to a community. Would I look at another job? Sure. Would I say, “hey I what to reitre here” knowing that if the company I am currently interviewing with offers, I’m out. Maybe that’s just some old school stuff. BBut either way, I wouldn’t play it like Mike Anderson. Maybe I’m naive or maybe he’s right and I’m wrong. What I know, is that I have a fundamental disagreement in how this person did it.
And this is the third time he’s done it. The third time is the charm. I don’t wish him well. I don’t hope that things work out for him. If he wanted the Arkansas job over the Mizzou job fine. Don’t lie about how you’re a Tiger and your plan is to retire here.
“Plans change.” This plan didn’t change. The plan was that when Arky offered he was bolting.
Oh and by the way, Nolan – looks like Arkansas was right for running you out of town.
by mizzou2396 on Mar 23, 2011 9:12 PM CDT reply actions 3 recs
to be fair,
2.2 mil probably isn’t on the table for you. no offense.
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by threadkiller on Mar 23, 2011 9:14 PM CDT up reply actions
I would hope that my integrity dosn't have a price tag
I am positive the price isn’t a 10% raise.
Oh and also, my job doesn’t involve me luring kids to come play for me. Including my friends.
Then you should never be a professional coach
because that’s the gig.
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If Brad Stevens sees an opportunity to get his dream job (maybe he's already in it)
and the media asks him about it DURING THE SEASON, he’s certainly not going to sell out his players in order to be completely honest.
And, he’s not going to be very successful telling his recruits “yes, I’m planning on being here, but if a job comes up at Indiana, I’m gone. Come here and be successful.”
If you want to be successful, you need to play your cards close to the vest.
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you can defend this guy all you want
i think he’s worhtless. We can agree to disagree. I think he went out of the way to deny, you don’t. I think a professional shouldn’t lie, but that’s just based on the ethical code i am bound by in my profession, apparently not his. it’s fine, you are ok with it, I am not. Not even close.. What you can’t deny is this is the 3rd time he’s done this vvery publicly. So as far as the whole “this is how coaches work” why is it that only this guy is the one who does it?
Worthless?
I’m pretty sure he’s worth approximately 2.2 million dollars. Annually.
I don't value people based on their bank account
he’s a liar. That’s never ok with me. Is he a rich liar? yup. Do I think he’s worthless? yup.
To think a week ago I was among a throng of happy Mizzou alums in DC
Hearing the good news that Coach Anderson was happy at Mizzou and Alden was looking forward to extending his contract
Funny how a week can change things
No thanks, I'll pass
I can swear he acknowledged me after the shootaround the night before the Cincy game. He “seemed” to appreciate the support. Hmmmm….
Anderson didn't even ask for permission himself.
Swapped phone calls?
The guy really shafted us.
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
I think that takes a lot of nerve. Pretty dick move.
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
History of success?
Oh boy, Jayhawk Nation is going to love that line.
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Whit Babcock, Gary Link, Mike Middleton
are on the search team.
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
Man I see a TON of hate going around for this guy...
I understand that we all feel shafted right now, but let’s not play Cleveland vs. LeBron. Can’t sit around and stir up angry towards a guy who DIDN’T get us to the mountaintop. Time to look forward and get excited for a new era!
by CapnCribbs on Mar 23, 2011 9:15 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
from the dagger:
“On March 4, Missouri coach Mike Anderson wanted to clear up any speculation.
He was not abandoning the Tigers for Arkansas and he even called a reporter with the Columbia Daily Tribune, who had doubts about whether Anderson was telling the truth, to make sure his message was heard.
“I plan on being at Missouri for a long time, retire here,” Anderson said.
Apparently 19 days is long enough and he is retiring to Arkansas where he will be the basketball coach in his spare time."
yep
how hard is it to just not lie?
if you’re looking at other jobs, just say no comment.
People would villify him for that too
Plus, on March 4th Arkansas still had a coach.
Anderson saying those things doesn’t bother me as much as the way he has handled his pursuit and acceptance of the Arkansas job.
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by Transmogrified Tiger on Mar 23, 2011 9:20 PM CDT up reply actions
some people would vilify him for it
reasonable people wouldn’t.
It’s not about who would vilify him, it’s about doing the right thing. The right thing is to keep your word and if you can’t keep a promise, don’t make it.
He still got vilified for what he DID say.
It all turned up false anyway, but even the denials weren’t enough.
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keon lawerence is one
stefan hannah?
and idk
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Quin Snyder reference!
DRINK!
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I didn't watch it, but I assume you mean Alden?
That has bugged me since the first time I heard him talk, as a freshman.
by jooooooooones! on Mar 23, 2011 10:10 PM CDT up reply actions
mr. alden has become long-winded. if this was church, i'd be asleep.
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this past sunday. why?
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by threadkiller on Mar 23, 2011 9:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, Alden said the right stuff about winning.
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thanks.
“sources report mike alden accepts ad position at another school”
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by threadkiller on Mar 23, 2011 9:20 PM CDT up reply actions
I also think people have this image of ex-CMA rubbing his hands together in a limo on his victory ride down to Fayetteville...
I think this is tough on him too. Not saying I approve of his move, but let’s not pretend the guy doesn’t have a heart.
the guy left a couple of kids who call him Uncle Mike
that’s pretty cold
I agree, like I said, I don't approve...
But at the same time I don’t think he’s flying a skull and crossbones out of his window right now. He didn’t handle the media aspect well at all, but at the same time there is still plenty of time for him to acknowledge the media. I’m upset with him from a sports standpoint, but I don’t think it’s OUR place to judge him as a person, unless of course we know him personally.
leaving the pressey's
particularly matt, who can’t transfer, and going out of his way to kill rumors that evidently had some truth to them….that’s what he did wrong here.
I don't think he ever went out of his way...
He was approached and answered how he felt he should answer. Leaving the Presseys was wrong, I agree, but like I said I don’t think any of us know this guy well enough to call him a heartless person.
You don't think that was stemmed by reporters hounding him about it?
I doubt he was sitting on his couch watching Toy Story and thought about making that phone call.
either way, it wasn't that he was sitting in front of a mic and just had to say something
as mike birbiglia would say, what he should have said was nothing.
by rg643 on Mar 23, 2011 9:32 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'm sure he wanted to stop rumors that were distracting the team
at an important time.
Being a head coach is like being a member of a political party: You can switch sides, but you have to swear up and down that you aren’t going to right up until the second you pull the trigger, because a lot of people will react in ways that make your job impossible as soon as there is even a doubt you may move.
He should have handled this better by at least acknowledging the media
I think he owes the fans something
like what??? candy???
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by threadkiller on Mar 23, 2011 9:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Or answer a few questions why he's leaving
Not to hide behind another university’s press release. To face a few cameras and explain why he was leaving a place he wanted to retire at. Is this asking too much?
yes. no coach does that when they leave one program for another.
be mad that he misled us. be mad he’s leaving. but him not being at this presser is not unusual.
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by threadkiller on Mar 23, 2011 9:24 PM CDT up reply actions
I dont expect him at THIS presser, I would have expected him to answer some questions leaving the state
Or am I wrong?
maybe he should have.
i don’t know. but if you expected him to do that, or still expect that, then yes, you’re wrong. ain’t gonna happen.
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by threadkiller on Mar 23, 2011 9:27 PM CDT up reply actions
me too, man. me too.
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by threadkiller on Mar 23, 2011 9:35 PM CDT up reply actions
I expect
that at some point he’ll have a “welcome to arky” presser, and at that point might say some nice parting things about Mizzou, and hard decisions, and such.
I hope he apologizes
for going 1-9 against kU, 0-6 against A&M, having a losing record against Nebraska and K-State.
Exactly.
The way he’s handling this doesn’t seem super unusual. Not as classy as I’d like, but not abnormal.
He owes them nothing.
He owed his employer and his players, and hopefully that worked itself out.
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And when this Jr. Class graduates, he'll owe the next one
at some point, if he’s going to leave, hes gotta screw over a set of players.
Rational Mizzou Talk, whether you like us or not.
But in 2 or 3 years there would be a new set of “these guys” who would then feel every bit as abandoned as the current set do now.
There is no point in a college coaches career where he graduates an entire class all at the same time, and can move on without breaking any attachments.
Everyone is just all worked up right now, and looking for things to be offended about.
Fine "owe" was the wrong word
What about “it would be greatly appreciated by the fans who paid part of his salary (I guess) if Anderson provided a few short quotes to the media explaining to the fans what he has said in the past about his position at Mizzou”…does that work?
I don't think he has a heart.
1. He leaves the University without even asking.
2. He lied to everyone about wanting to retire at Missouri.
3. He left a quality team with players that loved him and loved playing for him.
If I was Paul Pressey, I would not want my children playing for Mike Anderson.
by sippinator94 on Mar 23, 2011 9:22 PM CDT up reply actions
+1 for Alden withdrawing the contract offer.
I feel like at that point Alden was saying “you’d better go, because if you come back it won’t be good.”
Alden is doing a little dancing....
he is very professional…. refusing to take the bait to insult….
by WeWantTheFunk13 on Mar 23, 2011 9:23 PM CDT reply actions
And as much as he struggled this year,
Kimmeh is too. I’d be so thrilled if he puts it together next year and has an all-conference season.
by Sheriff Blalock on Mar 23, 2011 9:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Hey, Anderson did do something special...
he replicated the Frank Broyles playbook.
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They're all pissed
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by bigtexas@mizzou on Mar 23, 2011 9:27 PM CDT reply actions
Reoccurring theme
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Will there ever be...
…a female head coach of any men’s basketball team? What if Alden brought in the best one out there? What would happen around the country?
The Texas Legends in the D-League have a woman as their head coach.
I don’t think there’s ever been one in the NCAA D1, though.
Knoxville would declare war
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I came here to play for Missouri....
i love that…
by WeWantTheFunk13 on Mar 23, 2011 9:28 PM CDT reply actions
Bowers, great comment
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by ratherfantastic on Mar 23, 2011 9:29 PM CDT reply actions
eek.
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by threadkiller on Mar 23, 2011 9:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Rough year on the court, but a great person.
As our all our players. They’re all really likable and stay out of major trouble.
!!
KFRU WHY YOU AT COMMERCIAL?!?!?!
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by Other Side of the Pillow on Mar 23, 2011 9:30 PM CDT reply actions
Yeah....
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by ratherfantastic on Mar 23, 2011 9:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Can I just say that Kim English, Party Starter and Marcus are handling this with a lot of grace
We should be proud of these kids. I don’t care if they win another game or hit another shot.
by JSco on Mar 23, 2011 9:30 PM CDT reply actions 2 recs
i do.
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by threadkiller on Mar 23, 2011 9:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah.
Obviously I want them to win, but these young men can represent my school any day.
Haha yeah I agree these guys have been incredibly smooth and classy.
I see where you were coming from.
sooooo......mark jsco and capncribbs down for "ok" with 0-18 in conference next year. ;-)
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by threadkiller on Mar 23, 2011 9:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Hell, let's play kU 4 times and we can make it 0-20.
If they’re classy about it, I’d forgive them about 30 years later.
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I get the feeling that these guys aren't saying
what they’re really thinking. They’re playing it well, but
I agree there.
Even if you can understand the logic of the decision, it still hurts, and I’m sure they’re devestated.
However, THIS is the type of leadership I like to see from veteran players. Sometimes you have to put your emotions and worries on hold to be strong for the team, and they just showed they are capable of doing that very well.
Mike Kelly seems hilariously sweet on Twitter. All exclamation points and positivity
Good bye CMA! Thanks for your efforts and working relationship. Now time to make great hire who makes MU a power!
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by ratherfantastic on Mar 23, 2011 9:31 PM CDT reply actions
You win :)
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by Other Side of the Pillow on Mar 23, 2011 9:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Mike Kelly on Twitter
Good bye CMA! Thanks for your efforts and working relationship. Now time to make great hire who makes MU a power!
A thickly veiled shot?
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by Other Side of the Pillow on Mar 23, 2011 9:32 PM CDT reply actions
HEY, I GOT THIS COVERED :-)
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by ratherfantastic on Mar 23, 2011 9:33 PM CDT up reply actions
YESSS
kimmie just dropped a “NO.” as an answer to a question.
I do!
Mike Kelly on Twitter
Good bye CMA! Thanks for your efforts and working relationship. Now time to make great hire who makes MU a power!
There way too many smilies above this comment
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by ratherfantastic on Mar 23, 2011 9:34 PM CDT reply actions
My favorite quotes:
Bowers:
I play for Missouri. You can’t dwell on the past. Coach Anderson has moved on. Hopefully Missouri can move on.
Kimmeh:
Mostly, I was looking at my teammates’ faces, and letting them know that we’re a team, and we’re gonna be OK.
LOVE. THESE. GUYS.
I think we'll reconcile it by winning.
HELL YEAH.
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by crolfer on Mar 23, 2011 9:35 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
"I think we'll reconcile it by winning."
Starting in Lawrence!
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For the sake of next season...
I’m going to hope they start winning before that.
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You know what I meant
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Oh, I totally knew.
/still that guy
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I tell you what
These three guys’ and Steve’s Senior Night next year…is going to be special. Very, very emotional. True Tigers, through and through.
Um...I meant the three guys speaking
and Steve. What’s divisive about that? I thought I was pretty clear there.
I left out ’Cardo and MP b/c this will only be their second year in the program, we love ’em, but the emotional attachment to the other four is huge.
Kim's quote was awesome:
“I think we’ll reconcile it by winning.” Great quote.
by StopSpe on Mar 23, 2011 9:35 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
God bless I love the men we have on this Mizzou basketball team
proud
It's Time.
by Jason Brynsvold on Mar 23, 2011 9:36 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Anger
Kimmie has it.
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Can't wait for Willie Nelson throwdown!!
by KCTiger on Mar 23, 2011 9:37 PM CDT reply actions 2 recs
very proud of the way everyone handled themselves there
polite, respectful, focused.
by nickpapagiorgio on Mar 23, 2011 9:37 PM CDT reply actions
That Yost guy, though....
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by ratherfantastic on Mar 23, 2011 9:38 PM CDT up reply actions
said that to someone earlier
loyalty is rare these days
NOBODY ELSE WOULD HAVE HIM!!111!!!!!1!!!!!111!!!
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by threadkiller on Mar 23, 2011 9:40 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm really happy that the word "Arkansas" was never mentioned.
Referred to as “another institution” every time. Even the reporters picked up and called it that.
one did, when he was asking whether rumors during the season were tal
when he was asking whether rumors during the season were talked about in the locker room
I also have one other feeling after this
We begged for vocal leadership throughout last season…some take-charge guys who hold everyone accountable.
Folks, I think we’re going to find that next year.
by CBonerfied on Mar 23, 2011 9:38 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Everyone should give their opinion on how likely Mizzou vs Arkansas will be next year
I’m going 60% at the moment
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by ratherfantastic on Mar 23, 2011 9:38 PM CDT reply actions
If Anderson will duck questions from the media, I won't hold my breath for him to play "his" players
by Hapgrass on Mar 23, 2011 9:39 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
How about never, unless it's the post season.
Just like football.
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i like.
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by threadkiller on Mar 23, 2011 9:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Judging everyone else, I change my answer to 99%
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by ratherfantastic on Mar 23, 2011 9:40 PM CDT up reply actions
100%
BOOK IT
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by ratherfantastic on Mar 23, 2011 9:41 PM CDT up reply actions
But damn would it be interesting
I’d even like to see it at Arkansas, I don’t care.
/denial
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by ratherfantastic on Mar 23, 2011 9:46 PM CDT up reply actions
I feel much happier after that presser
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by Gaknar on Mar 23, 2011 9:39 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
I wonder how many of us--myself included--who are feeling angry and self-righteous right now...
will totally NOT give a damn that we’ll likely soon be putting another fan base through exactly what we’re going through right now.
Just being philosophical.
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
i'd hope that we'd go for a coach
that hadn’t just said he wants to retire there and would be leaving two kids who call him uncle
Um...you forgot one word at the end of that statement
the word “yet”
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That's true.
I’ve seen some of the UAB boards after we stole Anderson, and they were just as made at him as we are right now. He told them he wanted to stay there forever, too.
yea i met a UAB guy recently
pretty torn up about it still.
Good point
But it’s a lot easier to rationalize a clear jump up in competition, rather than a lateral transition at best.
And the biggest thing that sucked about this ordeal was the way Sexton played the press and strung people along. And Anderson had something to do with that. As long as our new guy and his agent handle it better…won’t be as much of a problem.
Agreed, except for the last sentence
Everyone always said “it’s how it was handled,” but that’s a bit like “it’s not the affair; it’s the fact that you lied.” Yeah right. Coaches are vagabonds, hired to get fired or to move to the next thing.
I do agree though that I’m really surprised about Arky. Not only is it lateral at best, the fan base is apathetic yet still has high expectations. They bailed on Pelfrey after what 2 or 3 seasons? (I know there were some recruiting violations on the horizons.) The only thing I can think of is that the SEC only really has 2 or 3 good programs (Florida, Kentucky, Vandy) year in year out. The others are up-and-coming or they stink. The likelihood of winning a championship in the SEC in the next couple years is probably a lot better than winning one in the Big 12 playing a true round robin.
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
Especially in an SEC West that was down
Remember, the SEC West division winner is still alive…in the NIT.
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what part of
“lived there for 17 years and wanting to go back home” are you having a hard time with?
Haha, reminds me of when Anheuser-Busch was being bought out
everybody was like, “What is the world coming to when we let some giant foreign faceless company come in and take over a local tradition. Quick AB, go buy up some local Mexican breweries to try to thwart the buyout.”
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by mattyp on Mar 23, 2011 9:45 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Philosophy is for people you read about in textbooks with funny looking hair.
On another note, I feel like many mid-majors (save Butler at this moment) have that feeling in the back or their minds that the coach will someday leave. This instance is a little different.
by TheHamburglar on Mar 24, 2011 12:23 AM CDT up reply actions
Mike Alden is trending in the US on twitter!
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Good question
Joe (Walljasper?) Will you rule out someone who may have a different destination/dream job?
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by Other Side of the Pillow on Mar 23, 2011 9:42 PM CDT reply actions
Romans 12:19
“Vengeance is mine, saith the LORD.” he’ll get his.
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eh.
theatrical night is theatrical.
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by threadkiller on Mar 23, 2011 9:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Anyone notice that Mike Alden referred to
Norm as Coach Stewart…
But Snyer as just… Quin.
Ha
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I like to sometimes refer to him as Greasy Popcorn.
Because the popcorn got all greasy when it got dumped on his hair.
by StopSpe on Mar 23, 2011 9:45 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
If anyone really, truly, believes a coach when they say they want to retire where they're at
and that coach isn’t Joe Paterno or Frank Beamer…
I’m sorry. That’s, to me, a you problem.
In a perfect world, it’s be easy to say that I want to be here, but I have to admit that if a “dream job” scenario came along, it would be hard to not listen.
But you can’t do that. Hell, for some parties, that would be even worse than what usually gets said, which is pablum along the lines of “I want to be here forever, blah, blah, blah.”
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Pretty much
That and great coaches who get to their dream job IE Roy, Coach K
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by ratherfantastic on Mar 23, 2011 9:47 PM CDT up reply actions
he could've said "i'm happy at mizzou" or "no comment"
but there’s really no need to go over the top in your commitment as your agent seeks your dream job.
i think MU fans are less upset that he lied, than that he lied so unnecessarily and blatantly.
by nickpapagiorgio on Mar 23, 2011 9:47 PM CDT up reply actions
But knowing the more intolerant members of the missouri fan base
That wouldn’t be seen as a firm enough commitment. You have to go over the top.
And no comment is vile as well.
It’s beyond a catch-22; it’s like a catch-44.
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by D-Sing on Mar 23, 2011 9:49 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
no comment is not vile, it's honest
the crazies would criticize him, but you have to respect honesty.
As I said in a fanpost
I can’t claim to know about what is in his heart.
But his comment was made about 10 days before Pelphry was axed. And while rumors are out there, he could have wanted to retire here. But things change.
Again, I can understand the anger and the emotion. I don’t feel the same way. I don’t feel lied to.
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well you were lied to
regardless of whether you feel it.
but everyone knew the arky coach was getting axed. that’s exactly why cma would call up a reporter to say how much he loves it here at MU. He knew the questions were going to start coming hot and heavy because the guy was getting the axe shortly.
I said I don't feel lied to.
Not saying as a fan I wasn’t lied to.
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even if he did all that right
we would still be mad that he left. we would still bank off of “loyalty” and the seniors and whatever else.
that's all i would have needed
what he said led me to believe there was no chance he was going to leave
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I'm honestly not that bummed about this
there were some great memories made during Anderson’s tenure, but there will be more to come
My favorite words are goodbye, and my favorite color is red
I'm bummed more in the
‘losing a little bit of my faith in humanity’ kind of way
i said a little bit
it just bothers me to see the guy go out of his way to lie while his agent is negotiating his next job.
if you’re looking, just say ‘no comment’ and move on. i don’t blame him for leaving, I blame him for lying, and particularly for going out of his way to lie.
haha.
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by threadkiller on Mar 23, 2011 9:51 PM CDT up reply actions
we're talking about college kids here
if they arent the most starry-eyed and optimistic (about the future) people in the world, i would like to know where those people are
I would be one of those college kids.
I’m definitely not going to let a sport have that effect on me. Like I said, I’m very upset about him leaving as well, but I’m going to take it for what it is, a sport transaction.
no one's saying they're going to hunt cma down
or jump off a roof or something.
i think the general feeling is that we believed we had a guy who not only was a good basketball coach but a guy we could trust, a man of his word. And clearly that wasn’t the case.
Yeah I see that, but I've also been here reading the posts in this thread as long as anyone else,
So I think I have a pretty good gauge of how people are taking this. Personally, i think hating the guy and calling him a terrible person is way over the top, I say leave the disappointment and anger to what we do know about him, and that’s what kind of coach he was.
I've been driving past his house all night.
And writing his name. :’(
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
I thought it was hilarious.
And besides, you like hockey.
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
I believe that this is
fair to feel this way. I bought in to the CMA “brand”… and I’ve got the egg on my face to prove it.
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by Other Side of the Pillow on Mar 23, 2011 10:04 PM CDT up reply actions
here
maybe this can restore some of it
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by mattyp on Mar 23, 2011 9:50 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
alden: "mike is a stand-up guy."
not a paraplegic. we knew that already, right?
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This has been me over the last couple hours
http://www.fanpop.com/spots/the-office/videos/17656/title/michael-scott-goodbye-lover
I’m taking this breakup worse than Peter Bretter.
ok, tonight sucks and all...
and i really hate that we traded a solid coaching situation for the unknown….
…but arent you guys just a little excited about following our search for a new coach and the possibilities it could bring? (minus the mandatory twittersplosion of ‘sources’ we’re going to be hearing about)
Oh no, I'm excited
Options keep swirling through my head. This will at least be interesting
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by ratherfantastic on Mar 23, 2011 9:57 PM CDT up reply actions
It's always exciting to get a new coach and watch a different type of Missouri team play.
Oh I hope Phil Pressey stays.
All I want is even just a little offensive structure
Lord knows Quin had none, and MA’s halfcourt offense truly clicked in only one of five seasons.
I'll throw out another coaching name for you...
Blaine Taylor, Old Dominion. Buddy in Tidewater area tells me he’s very much rumored to be looking onward and upward. NC State might be in on him too.
One thing—we’d rebound like fiends.
Fran Dunphy has something to say about that
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by ratherfantastic on Mar 23, 2011 9:58 PM CDT up reply actions
we are dangerously short in the blaine department right now.
by nickpapagiorgio on Mar 23, 2011 10:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Damn you Blaine Dalton and your propensity for alcohol!
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I LOVE BLAINE TAYLOR.
Not only for the mustache, but because he came across as an awesome coach in the postgame interview following Mizzou’s win over ODU this year.
BT: “How many games has Matt Pressey scored double-digit points in this year? Two? Lucky us.”
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by UribeAuction on Mar 23, 2011 10:48 PM CDT up reply actions
and we'd be getting him on the rebound too
We could talk about how much our last situation sucked, and hold each other.
Greetings Tiger fans.
Razorback fan here. I suppose our excitement is your pain, but let me be the first to say Mike Anderson wasn’t really my first pick to be hired here. He’s a very good coach, but there’s one more out there that’s better IMHO.
I’m a bigtime Buzz Williams (Marquette) fan and if the Missouri A.D. is serious about possibly bringing in the next great young coach in college basketball, he really needs to give this guy a look.
He’s young, (38) entergetic, smart and a relentless recruiter with ties to Texas, Oklahoma and Louisiana. He was an assistant under Billy Gillespi at Texas A&M.
Reports are saying Buzz’s buyout at Marquette is 3.8 mil., but that is strictly rumor. Marquette isn’t a state funded university. They’re a private school, so that information is clearly something the school doesn’t have to report publicly.
Anyhow, that’s just my two cents on any future coaching speculation, but if Buzz Williams becomes attainable and/or affordable, Missouri really needs to consider going after this guy. He’s going to be a good one for somebody, I garantee you. Good luck and God bless with your search, GonzoHog
I'm also a BW fan, but I seem to be in the minority here...
After his douchy actions against us a couple years ago.
hes just so.... doughy
it would be like having andrew zimmern coach
?
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by threadkiller on Mar 23, 2011 10:04 PM CDT up reply actions
We played Buzz in the tourny a couple years back.
We won, and he kept crying about us faking injuries and how the refs sucked (even though his team got all the calls throughout the game). We definitely don’t want him.
What's with everybody saying "we don't want him" after one game
where, yes, he was a douche? Or if Bill Self decided to coach Mizzou that they wouldn’t take him?
You want the best coach, considering all factors (ambassador, leader, mentor, and of course results). If that’s Buzz…f***in bring him on! He is a very, very good coach, folks. His team plays gritty and tough.
I don't have a strong investment in
the Buzz Williams is a Douche movement (save for meme participation)… but I did hear his background story on the radio the other day… it’s really quite interesting. I’ll try to find it somewhere…
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by Other Side of the Pillow on Mar 23, 2011 10:08 PM CDT up reply actions
I read the Bob Ryan Boston Globe article, that might have been the one
the guy has an INSANE desire to do what he does, and an intense drive to excel. It was a very good story.
That must be where I saw that....
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by Other Side of the Pillow on Mar 23, 2011 10:11 PM CDT up reply actions
a buddy of mine from Ark said the exact same thing
by nickpapagiorgio on Mar 23, 2011 10:03 PM CDT up reply actions
I would run around and recommend the guy
we decided not to go after if I were a Razorback fan, too. It would feel somewhat soul-cleansing to offer help to someone you just screwed over. :)
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by Other Side of the Pillow on Mar 23, 2011 10:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Buzz Williams can go play truth or dare with Jimmy Sexton for all I care
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by Transmogrified Tiger on Mar 23, 2011 10:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Transcript:
“DARE: I want you to pay my client $2.3 million per year.
TRUTH: I want you to pay my client $2.5 million per year.”
“Jimmy, that’s not how the game works.”
“Fine, $2.7 million.”
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by RPT on Mar 23, 2011 10:09 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Karma would be . . .
. . . for Anderson to get fired after 3-5 years AT THE JOB HE WANTED TO RETIRE FROM.
Then maybe he would more clearly regret holding out that hope for Mizzou fans.
karma would be a final four for MU next year
I don’t give a shit what happens for Arkansas.
I think it'd be hilarious if Arkansas fire him after 2 seasons like UK did to Gillespie,
and Anderson never gets a job again.
I don't care about that any more
Karma is about us, not some schadenfreude fantasy. We save those for kansas.
yep
i only have so much hate in me, have to save it all for kU
I'm not necessarily hoping he fails
But I think he’s walking into a buzzsaw. I don’t know whether the rumors of the anti-Nolen faction are real or if that was just Mizzou agit-prop, but the expectations on him will be enormous. If he stumbles even a little, what that crowd will do to him will make Angry Mizzou Fan look tame in comparison.
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Which, ironically enough...
… is just like the Cotton Bowl.
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cal? is that really you?
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by threadkiller on Mar 23, 2011 10:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, Man, it's me . . .
. . . the guy has really pushed my button with his “I want to retire at Missouri” meme. He clearly did not want to retire at Missouri because he has now voluntarily left for a job which somehow just became his “dream job” which he can’t pass up.
He could have said “I would be glad to retire at Missouri if my dream job doesn’t open up,” or “Missouri would be a good place to retire,” but instead he played politician by misrepresenting his true feelings in order to manipulate the actions of others – and those others were the young men who invested a very important four years of their lives with him and helped make him marketable to his new employer, as well as the young men he was recruiting.
I know the legal guys at the law school will say that contracts are made to be broken, but in my world contracts are made to be kept unless both sides are willing to re-negotiate. The man signed a long-term contract in order to get a secure compensation for the duration of that contract; if he had thoughts of leaving whenever the Arkansas job opened, he should have had the cajones to say so . . . not to play everyone who cared about the program for fools, just because they took him at his word.
I know it is archaic and parochial, but here in the hills where we still often, at least partly, live by the barter system, if a man’s word and handshake contract are no good, then he is considered to be no good.
I have always upheld HCGP and Mike Anderson up as classy individuals who valued character and binding relationships above all other considerations: Mike Anderson proved this past week that his “class” was either a farce, or based upon a relativism dependant upon his personal gain or pleasure. That is not class in my opinion . . . so I leave him to his karma. “Whatsoever a man sows; that shall he also reap.”
Go Mizzou!
by countrycal on Mar 23, 2011 11:38 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
This is precisely where my feelings on the situation are coming from.
Well spoken, cal.
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by Other Side of the Pillow on Mar 24, 2011 7:08 AM CDT up reply actions
Since there is precedent, and since this whole thing has gone down so strangely
If Mike Anderson were to pull a Dana Altman on the Hogs, could you take him back?
Me? I’m ready to turn the corner. Don’t want to go through this again. Bring someone in here whose commitment is less flimsy.
No. He's burned too many bridges. Even the players can't trust him at this point.
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no
it wouldn’t work for us, it wouldn’t work for him. it’s the 3rd year, fans were losing patience before he left, now he actually left. anytime he lost a game it would be a meltdown by the majority. Alden would feel pressure, Anderson would feel pressure and recruiting would hurt because no one would believe the situation is solid.
At this point he needs to go and we need him to go.
you'l cut all your hair?
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by threadkiller on Mar 23, 2011 10:07 PM CDT up reply actions
i'll join ya. we could sell flowers at the airport.
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by threadkiller on Mar 23, 2011 10:09 PM CDT up reply actions
it's all about the souls, man. ahhmmmmmmmmmmm...........
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by threadkiller on Mar 23, 2011 10:11 PM CDT up reply actions
only orange ones.
no ties.
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by threadkiller on Mar 23, 2011 10:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Quick glance,
the last 3 threads for our “situation” today ~1538 comments. Well done guys When we make a hire, I expect 2,000
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no one has mentioned who imo is the single best candidate yet
whether he would accept or not is a different story, but im alden, my first, second, third, fourth and maybe fifth offers go to…
bob knight.
Great moments...are born...from great opportunity.
And that's what you have here...tonight, boys.
That's what you've EARNED here, tonight.
im not looking for attention.
im looking for a winner. bob knight is in my opinion the greatest winner there ever was, and he is certainly the greatest winner currently without a job. i have no idea if hed be interested or not (im not naive, id guess not), but i think alden has a responsibility and obligation to inquire.
Great moments...are born...from great opportunity.
And that's what you have here...tonight, boys.
That's what you've EARNED here, tonight.
no. can't recruit.
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by threadkiller on Mar 23, 2011 10:28 PM CDT up reply actions
His last three years at Tech:
48-38 with one NCAA appearance. Also: he’s 70 years old, six years older than Norm when he retired.
quite frankly, i wouldnt expect his tenure to be >4 years
he has pieces now, he has instate high schoolers for that timespan, and he didnt exactly inherit such good fortunes at tech. i will gladly admit that i am very, very biased here (i borderline worship the guy), but i am literally telling anyone within earshot right now why we should be looking at him first.
Great moments...are born...from great opportunity.
And that's what you have here...tonight, boys.
That's what you've EARNED here, tonight.
ill be honest, i dont think he would be interested if alden approached him
but i do think that, if an offer came to him at a place he was interested in working, he would take it in a heartbeat, even today at 70. i am praying alden at least asks if hes interested.
Great moments...are born...from great opportunity.
And that's what you have here...tonight, boys.
That's what you've EARNED here, tonight.
He's done coaching
I do think he likes the state of Missouri (good friends with Tony LaRussa, comes here to hunt every fall) and at one time, he might have been amenable to coming here, but we would have had to scoop him up right after Indiana fired him.
Bob Knight is a museum piece now, not a coach.
The majority at rockmnation have a general distaste for Knight
Several times he bashed Anderson’s coaching/system while announcing mizzou games. I think most of his comments were fair (its not like he doesn’t know what he is talking about) but some were probably from a misunderstanding of Anderson’s goals.
Personally, I have no problem with giving him a shot. Given his age though, it is unlikely he would be willing to completely jumble a school’s system then have to rebuild immediately following next year when 6 of our players (presumably) graduate.
I agree with you that he should be looked at. He is a winner. He did have 7 seasons at Tech…they made it to the tourny 4 times in those years so its not like he completely lost his touch. But if you want a young guy…lol probably not the right choice here
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by lost..in the woods on Mar 24, 2011 1:51 AM CDT up reply actions
the first month of practice would be shot fakes
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Oh dear God no
If Alden even has his number, I pray he loses his phone.
Respect and honor your opponent, unless that opponent is a fictional bird. In which case you hit him until he falls, kick him until dead and burn the remains.
anyone
know where I can watch the press conference?
As a Mizzou fan, I am fine with his leaving and greatly appreciate what he’s done here in such little time. The school and it’s history is so much bigger than one man but he left a positive mark on it and that’s what counts in my book. I hate to see him go right now but the show will go on. If Arkansas is where his heart is at, then that’s where he needs to be.
To me, if Flip came here to play for Mike Anderson than following him to Arkansas is only logical.
If he came here to play for Mizzou than he’ll stay. My guess is that he follows Anderson and I say good luck to him. We’ll replace him with someone whose heart is that of a Tiger.
Maybe
But if Anderson can keep BJ Young committed to Arkansas, would he need Pressey too? Will Phlip leave his brother, who isn’t likely to transfer before his senior year?
by parliamentlite on Mar 23, 2011 11:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Unless someone comes in with our new coach to fill that spot.
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by lost..in the woods on Mar 24, 2011 1:53 AM CDT up reply actions
Here are my thoughts for our next head coach...
1. The Butler coach.
1a. Buzz Williams of Marquette
2. Shaka Smart of VCU
3. Xavier’s coach.
For the sarcastic lot:
Larry Eustachy of Southern Miss
Tim Floyd at UTEP
Jeff Caple (unemployed)
now discuss…
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john groce......
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by threadkiller on Mar 23, 2011 10:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Scott Sutton was just brought up on KOMU
as was Matt Painter of Purdue, and Brian Gregory of Dayton
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i am not fanof any of those
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bobby wasnt =[
Great moments...are born...from great opportunity.
And that's what you have here...tonight, boys.
That's what you've EARNED here, tonight.
The fact that the current VCU coach
appears on the same last as Jeff Caple scares me. I haven’t really followed Anthony Grant since he got to Alabama, but color me skeptical.
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Well. God willing, the sun will come up tomorrow morning. And In the afternoon, I will be in the Rec Hoopin.
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Thanks for all the LOVE and support that Tiger nation is showing to us right now. We love and play for you all. 77wins and countin. #Winning
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Kimmie might be the most likeable person ever to have existed
and I say this as a devout Christian (/not really). But damn I wish the best for him next year…it was tough being frustrated with him this year
My favorite words are goodbye, and my favorite color is red
Has this name come up?
Dave Rose of BYU. Remember BYU moves to the West Coast Conference next season. Apparently he’s not happy about that.
Is he willing to play on Sunday?
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If we are ever to have a coaching transition
Its hard to argue that we could have any more of a positive situation for it. Short of having a coach retire after a championship season, its so much better to be on the hunt in our present situation with our present cast of Tiger players than many of the alternatives other coachless major programs are faced with.
Man, I am whupped.
kind of a circus down at the arena.
Did anyone listen to the feed on KFRU? How did it sound?
The sleeper has awoken. . .awakened. . .he woke up.
I listened...
the sound was good… when it wasn’t dumped out for commercials 3 times from the time you took the air. . .
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by Other Side of the Pillow on Mar 24, 2011 7:10 AM CDT up reply actions
Curious about Flip transfering and I'm thinking I am reading the SEC rules right
He can’t transfer, unless he wants no financial aid not be able to practice or compete, until he is a Junior or has 48 (I think that was the number) hours under his belt.
So he can either stay at Mizzou for a year (hopefully longer) and get free schooling while playing basketball.
Or he can transfer to Arkansas, pay for a year of school and not play or practice, then pick things up for his remaining 2 years.
I’m thinking, and hoping, he chooses the former.
He'd have to leave his brother to go
And remember, Arkansas has Florissant’s own BJ Young on the way in to man the point, provided MA can keep him there.
by parliamentlite on Mar 23, 2011 11:13 PM CDT up reply actions
List
1) Stevens
2) Painter
3) Randy Bennett
4) Buzz
5) Blaine Taylor
6) Chris Mack
7) Shaka Smart
8) Cuanzo
Try not to take me too seriously
my thoughts
http://mizzousportswriters.com/2011/03/23/mizzou-moves-on-but-to-where/
a vacant coaching spot isnt the only problem…we also need to worry about our recruiting
I don't think recruiting is an issue once we get a coach in place.
Any new coach that’s brought in will likely have a signee or two that he can bring along, and he would probably be looking at more. When Mizzou hires a coach, a lot of prospects that weren’t even on the radar with Anderson could suddenly become very realistic possibilities.
Alden will make a hire in short order
this you can rely on. And if the recruiting effected, there’s always JUCO.
We’ll live to see another day. Mike Anderson left the program in infinitely better shape than it was when he got here. Much props to MA. Mizzou basketball is a national entity again.
Good luck at Arkansas. I hope we beat the holy shit out of you if we ever meet in the tournament, but otherwise, thanks for five transformational years, Mr. A.
Just read that Krzyzewski makes over 4mil a year
in a USA Today article
Not sure where that 2.2mil stat came from but this is probably more recent..
If you don't have time to do it right, when will you have time to do it over?
John Wooden
by lost..in the woods on Mar 24, 2011 2:10 AM CDT reply actions
Trivial note
Does this mean the new coach will have some say in changing the uniforms? I’d like to see us go back to wearing the word “Missouri” on the road instead of “Mizzou.” Keep Mizzou for the home whites and sunday-best golds, but let’s go old school on the road black again.
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