Mizzou Basketball Coaching Search: Scott Sutton
As one probably expects from RMN at this point, we plan on analyzing and over-analyzing every viable (and non-viable) name potentially associated with Missouri's search to replace Mike Anderson as head men's basketball coach. Today, we will look at three names supposedly on Mizzou's initial candidates list.
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Scott Sutton, Oral Roberts Head Coach
Career Record: 223-155, all at Oral Roberts (last seven years: 148-84). ORU's five years before Sutton: 85-56.
Accomplishments: Five 20-win seasons, four conference titles, three conference tournament titles, one NIT appearance.
Before He Was a Head Coach: Played two seasons for his father, Eddie, at Oklahoma State. Hired as an assistant at ORU, first by Bill Self in 1995, then by Self's replacement Barry Hinson after Self's departure in 1997.
Ties to the Midwest: His entire career -- both playing and coaching -- has taken place within the state of Oklahoma.
Ties to Missouri: Let's see ... 1) Oklahoma borders Missouri, 2) ORU beat Mizzou in 2009, and 3) ORU beat No. 1 Kansas in 2006. So that's something. Plus, he's shown a propensity for recruiting the KC area. Mizzou killer Dominique Morrison (2008 signee) hails from Raytown, and recent ORU commit D.J. Jackson attends Archbishop O'Hara.
Does He See Mizzou As a Destination Job? Possibly. He's from the area, and he has the "loyalty" gene, staying at ORU for well over a decade at this point. ORU had strong success as a "lilypad" job in the mid- to late-1990s, with Self and Hinson staying just a combined six seasons before moving on to bigger things. Sutton has maintained the Golden Eagles' success -- after two losing seasons to start his tenure, ORU has been over .500 ten straight years. Plus, with the Sutton name a little damaged at OSU, he probably wouldn't be a threat to flee to his alma mater.
Can He Recruit? Unknown. ORU is a basketball-friendly school, but it is also extremely religious and restrictive. Within this environment, about half of Sutton's signees have received star ratings from Rivals.com, and three have received a 3-star rating.
This Year's Recruits (i.e. Players Who Might or Might Not Come With Him): PG D.J. Jackson (NR, 6'0, 180, Kansas City, MO -- committed, not signed), Andrew Wilson (NR, 6'6, 200, Tulsa, OK -- considering Tulsa, ORU, SMS).
ORU's Ken Pomeroy Stats
| ORU's Five-Year Average Ken Pom Rankings |
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| ORU Offense | ORU Defense | ||
| Tempo | 149.0 | ||
| Efficiency | 136.0 | 102.6 | |
| Effective FG% | 133.2 | 109.6 | |
| Turnover % | 143.8 | 220.6 | |
| Off. Reb. % | 97.6 | 89.8 | |
| FTA/FGA | 62.4 | 118.0 | |
| 3PA/FGA | 251.4 | 34.8 | |
| A/FGM | 227.0 | 37.2 | |
Statistical Tendencies: ORU's style in recent years has been pretty well-defined: they attack the basket, they don't take many 3-pointers, they draw fouls, and they hit the glass. On defense, they guard the perimeter like mad, and they rotate well to the ball, allowing few assists and few good looks from long-range. In a lot of ways, ORU does right most of the things Mizzou does wrong. Of course, they also do wrong a lot of the things that Mizzou has done right recently -- namely, ball control. With a lot of turnover, they also fouled a ton this season and allowed a very high opponent's FT% (meaning they fouled guards a lot). A Sutton hire would result in a really interesting transition for Mizzou's seniors-to-be. Not necessarily a bad transition, just an interesting one.
Would He Come Here? Quite possibly. I don't know his history -- surely he's received advances from bigger schools being that he's both coached and succeeded at a school known for serving as a career launching point. At some point, you go from being a viable candidate for making the mid-major-to-major jump, to a career-at-one-school guy; as Sutton heads into his 40s, now's the time to make a jump if he's going to.
Thoughts: I like Scott Sutton. This would not be an obvious home run hire, and it would not generate the buzz (sorry) that someone like Buzz Williams would, but I don't really care. Gary Pinkel wasn't a sexy hire either. Sutton appears to have all the long-term characteristics Mizzou fans are probably overvaluing at the moment, and he has built an impressive list of general accomplishments. The obvious question with him is recruiting. It's impossible to tell how he would do recruiting to a bigger, less-restrictive school, so it would be, like everything else, a leap of faith that he could recruit at the level he would need. Sutton is not my top choice (honestly, I'm not sure who is yet), but I wouldn't complain at all with this hire.
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Need a "meh" button on your poll.
as that is my vote.
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not just no
but hell no
The only measure of true success in the NFL is the Vince Lombardi trophy. Anything less is a rationalization.
Care to elaborate?
I don’t think Sutton is my first pick, but I wouldn’t stand outside Mizzou Arena and protest his hiring.
by CapnCribbs on Mar 24, 2011 12:42 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
The jump from CAA, MVC, A-10, Horizon, etc. to the B12
is not nearly as large as it would be from the Summit League.
What’s the best seed ORU has earned in the tourney during his run? I’m just not seeing anything that would put him above either the hot-name candidates or the steady up-and-comers either.
Pass.
Sutton
- Coaches in a horrible conference
- Loses quite a bit in that conference(13 losses the last 3 years, 16 if you include the conference tourney)
- Is almost a complete unknown in recruiting ability
- Doesn’t have any loyalty ties to Mizzou
- Is coming off a mediocre season where his team’s best win was South Dakota St. and in general played atrocious defense
- has a stupid face
I can’t imagine Sutton being objectively thought of as the best man for the job. Please please please no.
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by Transmogrified Tiger on Mar 24, 2011 1:11 PM CDT reply actions 2 recs
Rec'd for the humor in your conviction
I don’t like it either, but man, your HATE HATE HATE had me laughing. I hope no one ever tells me I have a stupid face!
We could go the Iowa State route and hire a former Mizzou Tiger that played in the Pro's.
But who to pick, who to pick?
Michael Jordan
he played for mizzou, right?
space jam.
I do not know about Sutton.
In fact I really don’t know what I think about this entire 5 day stretch.
Why is it that Mizzou is viewed not as a destination job now? ( I know why in actuality I am just upset about the logic behind it) This is more of a rhetorical question.
If other schools can go after known coaching commodities I say Alden and the search committee can too. Not sure if Sutton is a complete known yet.
Dr. Ausgiano schools me in the classroom and on the field of battle
by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Mar 24, 2011 1:18 PM CDT reply actions
Is this one of those things that cause us to go back and question Norm's greatness?
Do we add the fact that he didn’t produce any coaches in his coaching tree as a negative on his career?
Rational Mizzou Talk, whether you like us or not.
I don't know.
I wouldn’t question Norm as a great coach, and I guess I don’t really have a problem with the lack of a Norm coaching tree. I would hope other people wouldn’t fall back on those questions you posed either Andy, but yeah….I guess it starts being a slippery slope of despair.
What I am starting to think about is I don’t want the committee to go after a “mizzou guy” like Michigan goes after “Michigan Men” if it only leads to a bad situation.
Mizzou can get whom ever they want I feel. Maybe that’s the homerizm coming through today.
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by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Mar 24, 2011 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Heck.... I know he is tainted right now but what about Bruce Pearl?
I’m sure we will get into all of these here within a few days
I like this option, honestly
I like the idea of getting a guy from a good basketball pedigree and he fits that. He was a player, and a coach’s son, and now a coach himself. This guy has never not known basketball at the center of his universe which means we know his priorities. Add to that his ever-present exposure to Big 8/Big XII stuff, he knows Mizzou’s history and the conference’s history so he’s going to relate well to the fans and boosters and media.
Sexy pick? No, not at all. But you don’t go to bed with a whore you don’t wake up with a whore. A lot of people seem to want to find a whore, but on her first day. That’s a tough act.
Actually if the price is right you can go to bed with a whore and wake up with one, too
it’s just you would need to mentally prepare yourself for the fact that the whore in the morning is not going to necessarily look like the one you went to be with.
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I’m not in favor of changing it from “ZD’s sister is hot” to “ZD’s sister is a tranny Thai bar-girl.”
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you don't find tranny Thai bargirls hot?
weird
by jschooltiger on Mar 24, 2011 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Simply not enough of a winner in a horrible, horrible conference.
I think it would be a complete trainwreck.

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