Study Hall: Kansas
Your Trifecta: Bowers-Denmon-Dixon. These three players and Flip Pressey were the ONLY TIGERS TO REGISTER A POSITIVE ADJGS SCORE. Your Winner: stlcardinalsfang. Quite a few people guessed the right three people (and really, at this point, why would you choose anybody else?), but only fang had them in the right order.
First, a bunch of links you will probably not enjoy.
- MUtigers.com: No. 22 Mizzou Falls to Jayhawks, 70-66
- Rock Chalk Talk: Kansas Beats Missouri on the Road, Wins Big 12 Outright
- The Trib: Kansas ruins Missouri's unblemished home record
The Trib (Joe Walljasper): Tigers don't pass the smell test - The Missourian: Kansas defeats Missouri
The Missourian: Tyrel Reed's 3-pointer ends Missouri's comeback chance
The Missourian: PHOTO GALLERY: Missouri loses to No. 2 Kansas 70-66
The Missourian: PHOTO GALLERY: 'Beat KU' signs adorn the MU columns - KC Star: KU beats Mizzou 70-66, wins Big 12 title outright
KC Star (Upon Further Review): KU vs MU: Tale of Two Cities - Post-Dispatch: Mizzou falls to KU 70-66
Post-Dispatch (Bryan Burwell): MU has no time left on clock - PowerMizzou: Too little, too late
PowerMizzou: The baseline view - Lawrence Journal-World: Seventh heaven: Jayhawks beat Missouri, claim league title outright
Lawrence Journal-World: Senior guard Tyrel Reed called his shot against Missouri
Lawrence Journal-World: Elijah Johnson shores up point for KU - KBIA Sports Extra: Mizzou out-hustled by Kansas at home
KBIA Sports Extra: PHOTOS: Mizzou snaps home win streak, falls to Kansas 70-66 - Fox Sports MW: No. 22 Tigers lose first at home as Kansas wins Big 12
- CBS
KC Star: Fans left in dark as CBS switches away from KU-MU game; second half re-aired Saturday night
KC Star: The plays that happened after CBS cut away from KU-MU
KC Star (Upon Further Review): CBS: ($&%*@)
The Trib: CBS loses feed of rivalry game
The Missourian: Fans following MU men on TV cut off
The Dagger: Viewers irate after CBS switches away from Kansas-Missouri
Quick response to Bryan Burwell: breathe and research for 10 minutes before posting. Want to say Mizzou's playing terribly right now? Fine. Want to say they're a candidate to lose Wednesday, then bow out quickly in the first round of the NCAAs? Fine. Want to say they'll go to the NIT if they lose on Wednesday? Look at the other teams between them and the bubble. Look at their resumes. Realize that, whether Mizzou is playing like they deserve it or not, they are still safe. If there are a ton of weird conference tourney upsets AND the teams between them and the wrong side of the bubble (the Michigan States, Clemsons, Alabamas and Boston Colleges of the world) all win big this weekend, then we'll talk. But even then Mizzou is probably still safe. They may be a team with only 3.5 good players right now, but they're still very safely in right now. Don't ruin an otherwise solid critique by going too far with it.
Kansas 70, Mizzou 66
| Mizzou |
KU | |
| Pace (No. of Possessions) |
74.4 | |
| Points Per Minute |
1.65 | 1.75 |
| Points Per Possession (PPP) |
0.89 | 0.94 |
| Points Per Shot (PPS) |
1.14 | 1.27 |
| 2-PT FG% | 40.0% | 45.8% |
| 3-PT FG% | 13.0% | 28.6% |
| FT% | 82.9% | 71.4% |
| True Shooting % | 45.0% | 52.0% |
| Mizzou | KU | |
| Assists | 9 | 14 |
| Steals | 13 | 5 |
| Turnovers | 12 | 24 |
| Ball Control Index (BCI) (Assists + Steals) / TO |
1.83 | 0.79 |
| Mizzou | KU | |
| Expected Offensive Rebounds | 15 | 13 |
| Offensive Rebounds | 10 | 16 |
| Difference | -5 | +3 |
The Absolute Worst Part About This Game...
...was that Kansas didn't play very well. When they scored on 19 straight possessions against Mizzou at Allen Fieldhouse, it was easy to accept that it wasn't Mizzou's night. Same as last year at Mizzou Arena when KU won by 21 -- they were fantastic that day. This time? Not really. The trio of Markieff Morris, Marcus Morris and Thomas Robinson were as good as we feared they would be (46 points on 17-for-29 shooting, 31 rebounds), but they were also victimized by Mizzou's system (13 turnovers between the three of them), and the rest of the team did very little (24 points on 7-for-26 shooting, 11 more turnovers).
Kansas committed 24 turnovers, and Mizzou's ball handling advantage completely neutralized Kansas' rebounding advantage. (I'm sorry, but it did. If the message you take from this game is that Mizzou's frontcourt is the problem, you're not looking hard enough.) All Mizzou had to do to beat Kansas was shoot poorly. They didn't have to shoot particularly well, they just had to make the open shots they were accustomed to making while still missing most of the shots Kansas was leveraging them into taking. Instead ... Justin Safford airballs a 15-footer. Mike Dixon airmails a catch-and-shoot 3-pointer, as does Marcus Denmon. Kim English horribly misses three very open 3-pointers. Laurence Bowers misses a couple of baby hooks.
Mizzou needed just five more points to beat Kansas ... meaning, relatively speaking, 33% shooting (19-for-58) might have done it. And they could only manage 17-for-58. Kansas doesn't give you those types of opportunities very often (and yes, part of the reason they were playing poorly was Mizzou's defensive play), and Mizzou refused to take advantage of it on the offensive end.
Wanted: Leadership
Actually, no, that's not quite right. This team has leadership, very good leadership, from two players...
Wanted: Non-Detrimental Play From Your Other Upperclassmen
In the last five games, Laurence Bowers and Marcus Denmon have been absolutely incredible.
- Bowers: 16.8 PPG (65.4% TS%), 8.0 RPG, 2.2 SPG, 1.8 BPG, 0.6 TOPG (24.5 AdjGS/game!)
- Denmon: 19.6 PPG (66.3% TS%), 2.4 RPG, 1.6 APG, 0.8 TOPG (18.9 AdjGS/game)
From a general stats and AdjGS perspective, Bowers has been a Doug Smith facsimile in the last five games with Denmon doing a nice Kareem Rush impression. You could not ask for better leadership than that.
Combine that with the fact that their two young point guards -- Mike Dixon and Phil Pressey -- have, while experiencing their own issues, pulled off the job of point guard reasonably well: 7.0 APG, 4.2 SPG, 4.6 TOPG (a not-great-but-solid 2.44 BCI and 13.6 AdjGS/game). All they need from the rest of the roster is ... something. Anything positive. Anything whatsoever. And they are simply not getting it.
The biggest offenders? Four of the other five upperclassmen. Here are some stats from the last three games:
- Kim English: 27.0 MPG, 3.7 PPG (23.8% TS%), 1.0 RPG, 1.3 APG, 1.3 SPG, 2.3 TOPG, 1-for-9 from 3-point range. -3.0 AdjGS/game.
- Ricardo Ratliffe: 22.0 MPG, 4.0 PPG (35.3% TS%), 2.7 RPG (!), 1.7 TOPG, ZERO TRIPS TO THE FREE THROW LINE. 0.2 AdjGS/game.
- Justin Safford: 10.7 MPG, 0.7 PPG (0.0% FG), 1.0 RPG, 3.0 PFPG ... nine fouls, two turnovers, three rebounds (none on offense), two points. -3.1 AdjGS/game.
- Matt Pressey: 16.0 MPG, 3.7 PPG (37.5% FG), 1.0 APG, 1.3 SPG, 2.7 SPG. 2.5 AdjGS/game, easily the best of the four.
That's right, four of Mizzou's upperclassmen have contributed minus-3.4 AdjGS/game in Mizzou's three-game losing streak. For the season, they have averaged 28.9 AdjGS/game. Only regressing by fifty percent would have possibly resulted in a 2-1 record in the last three games. Instead, they have regressed by 112 percent. There is unacceptable, and there is that.
Mizzou Player Stats
(Definitions at the bottom of the post.)
| Player |
AdjGS | GmSc/Min | Line |
| Laurence Bowers | 39.1 | 1.15 | 34 Min, 22 Pts (8-13 FG, 6-8 FT), 10 Reb (5 Off), 5 Stl |
| Marcus Denmon | 23.8 | 0.66 | 36 Min, 19 Pts (4-12 FG, 2-7 3PT, 9-9 FT), 4 Reb |
| Mike Dixon | 12.8 | 0.43 | 30 Min, 10 Pts (1-9 FG, 1-6 3PT, 7-10 FT), 5 Reb, 5 Ast, 2 Stl |
| Phil Pressey | 6.9 | 0.50 | 14 Min, 6 Pts (1-4 FG, 0-2 3PT, 4-4 FT), 3 Stl, 2 TO |
| Steve Moore | 1.3 | 0.09 | 14 Min, 0 Pts (0-0 FG), 3 Reb |
| Ricky Kreklow | -1.3 | -0.21 | 6 Min, 0 Pts (0-3 3PT) |
| Justin Safford | -2.0 | -0.17 | 12 Min, 2 Pts (0-3 FG, 0-1 3PT, 2-2 FT), 2 Reb |
| Ricardo Ratliffe | -3.3 | -0.17 | 20 Min, 4 Pts (2-7 FG), 3 Reb, 2 TO, 5 PF |
| Matt Pressey | -4.9 | -0.44 | 11 Min, 0 Pts (0-2 FG, 0-1 3PT0, 2 TO |
| Kim English | -7.4 | -0.32 | 3 Pts (1-5 FG, 0-3 3PT, 1-2 FT), 4 TO |
- Denmon, Dixon and Bowers: 75.6 points.
- The Rest of the Team: minus-10.7 points.
- If Kreklow, Safford, Ratliffe, M. Pressey and English had only combined for minus-10.0 points instead of minus-18.9, Mizzou would have won by five.
- Dixon and P. Pressey combined for six assists, five steals and just three turnovers. That's a very good 3.7 BCI against a good defensive team. Considering they were probably screwed out of at least a couple more assists by missed open shots, that's very good.
- Mike Dixon may have shot poorly from the field, but I give him major kudos for figuring out how the game was being called and trying his damnedest to engineer points however possible. In a game with 51 fouls and 63 free throw attempts, Dixon drew more fouls and attempted more free throws than anybody else, even KU's bigs, while still dishing five assists. That doesn't completely negate his 1-for-9 performance from the field, but it comes close.
- 39.1 points for Bowers!! Last year, Bowers became the master of the stuffed box score. He averaged perhaps the most valuable 10.2 PPG in the country last season. But this was his masterpiece. Yes, Kansas' bigs were amazing, but he single-handedly matched them as long as he possibly could. His five offensive rebounds (half of Mizzou's total) created five extra possessions for Mizzou, and his five steals (almost half of Mizzou's total) preempted five for Kansas. He was absolutely incredible, and he deserved better from his teammates.
How incredible was Bowers? Before the game, if I'd told you that he, Ratliffe and Safford had combined for 33.8 AdjGS points, you'd have probably been pretty pleased with that. That's over 11 points per player! And that's with Ratliffe and Safford combining for minus-5.3 points.
| Player | Usage% | Floor% | Touches/ Poss. |
%Pass | %Shoot | %Fouled | %T/O |
| Bowers | 23% | 55% | 2.0 | 24% | 52% | 24% | 0% |
| Denmon | 21% | 41% | 1.8 | 24% | 49% | 27% | 0% |
| Dixon | 22% | 33% | 4.2 | 63% | 19% | 16% | 2% |
| P. Pressey | 26% | 33% | 2.9 | 40% | 27% | 20% | 13% |
| Moore | 0% | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A |
| Kreklow | 23% | 0% | 1.4 | 0% | 100% | 0% | 0% |
| Safford | 19% | 17% | 1.2 | 0% | 55% | 27% | 18% |
| Ratliffe | 21% | 22% | 2.0 | 40% | 47% | 0% | 13% |
| M. Pressey | 17% | 0% | 1.0 | 0% | 50% | 0% | 50% |
| English | 20% | 13% | 1.2 | 0% | 48% | 14% | 38% |
- Flip Pressey was a little overwhelmed and tight early in the game, but he settled down later on. His game management abilities have been rather solid lately; his problem, of course, is that he has completely lost his jumper. In the first 11 conference games, he scored 95 points (8.6 PPG) on 31-for-67 shooting (46.3%), 19-for-37 from 3-point range (51.4%). In his last five: 22 points (4.4 PPG) on 6-for-26 shooting (23.1%), 4-for-18 from 3-point range (22.2%). He probably isn't as good a shooter as his first 11 games suggested, but regression to the mean has wrecked Flip. (It hasn't done Mizzou's offense any favors either.)
- Eventually the shots have to go in, Ricky.
Three Keys Revisited
From Friday's Preview.
Find Your Little/Releford
In the last five games, Matt Pressey, Steve Moore, Ricky Kreklow and Justin Safford have combined for just 48 points on 19-for-44 shooting (3-for-13 on 3-pointers), 22 rebounds (Moore: six in 34 minutes), 19 turnovers and 27 fouls. And these numbers include a pretty decent three-game stretch from Safford (Tech, ISU, Baylor). Whatever they have brought to the table, they've taken twice as much off of it, and that's not going to cut it against Kansas. Somebody from this group has to step up ... who is it going to be?
Matt Pressey, Steve Moore, Ricky Kreklow and Justin Safford: minus-6.9 combined AdjGS points.
I was wrong. Mizzou didn't need their role players to come up big. They just needed them to come up with zero contributions instead of seven points' worth of negative contributions.
Keep Up With the Big Boys
KU has the rare frontcourt combination of size, strength and serious versatility. All eyes on Laurence Bowers, Ricardo Ratliffe, Justin Safford and Steve Moore. They handled Baylor's size very well ... but so did Kansas. Hopefully Ratliffe, Safford and Moore left all their terrible play and bad body language in the locker room at the Devaney Center on Tuesday.
Unless you are one of the small handful of schools that sign almost nothing but four- and five-star blue chippers, chances are you are sacrificing something in recruiting. Mike Anderson's strategy is clear: he obviously wants size in a perfect world (they went hard after DeMarcus Cousins, they offered KSU's Jordan Henriquez-Roberts and Michigan State's Derrick Nix, they signed Keith Dewitt and it didn't work out, they were going hard after Zach Peters until his early commitment to Kansas), but if they fail to bring in a player with both great size and great agility, and they have to choose one or the other, they're going with Mr. Agility. They're going after Laurence Bowers and Keith Ramsey instead of Jarryd Cole. And the strategy has proven, at times, that it can succeed.
Exhibit A: the entire 2008-09 season.
Exhibit B: Laurence Bowers' efforts yesterday.
With his efficient shooting, offensive rebounds and steals, Bowers showed how Missouri can beat teams with talented bigs: with effort and efficiency. Make the shots you can make, grab the rebounds you can grab, and hustle your asses off. Bowers was wonderful, pulling down 10 rebounds in 34 minutes despite a clear size disadvantage. The other three Mizzou bigs? Eight rebounds in 46 minutes ... with six points on ten shots. There's almost no way to determine effort level on the glass -- I know a few times when Justin Safford was trying to box out correctly and just got outmuscled -- but Mizzou's bigs still have to make the shots they can make and pull off some hustle plays along the way. They're not. I have no complaints with the way Steve Moore played yesterday (hopefully he's alright), but he's not a difference maker. Bowers needs Ratliffe and Safford to do something, and in the last three games they haven't. Not even close.
Battle of Baltimore
Josh Selby has not been very good as of late, but it hasn't mattered. With the experience Kansas brought to the table this season, Selby has been a total luxury. That said, Selby might serve an interesting purpose in this game: bringing Kim English to life.
The only thing Josh Selby did with Kim English was combine to permanently damage Baltimore basketball's reputation.
Summary
In the first 29 games, Missouri averaged fewer than 0.97 points per possession just once. They've done so in each of the last two games. In a game where Mizzou's defense was stellar, Kansas' performance was iffy at best, and Laurence Bowers and Marcus Denmon could have barely played any better, the Tigers lost by four because a majority of the players on the roster couldn't be counted on to provide even a neutral contribution.
As I said after the Nebraska game, this team could still put together a solid postseason run. But they're most likely going to have to do so from the 8-9 spot in the NCAA Tournament. And if this is the contribution they can count on from a majority of their upperclassmen -- Safford, English, Ratliffe, M. Pressey -- then this team's ceiling isn't nearly as high as I thought it was not even two weeks ago. Losing by four points to Kansas is really nothing to be ashamed of, but this game did nothing to restore my faith in this team.
Again, I'm easy. My faith can come back, full force, with the smallest reason. Win me back, guys. Please.
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AdjGS: a take-off of the Game Score metric (definition here) accepted by a lot of basketball stat nerds. It takes points, assists, rebounds (offensive & defensive), steals, blocks, turnovers and fouls into account to determine an individual's "score" for a given game. The "adjustment" in Adjusted Game Score is simply matching the total game scores to the total points scored in the game, thereby redistributing the game's points scored to those who had the biggest impact on the game itself, instead of just how many balls a player put through a basket.
Usage%: This "estimates the % of team possessions a player consumes while on the floor" (via). The usage of those possessions is determined via a formula using field goal and free throw attempts, offensive rebounds, assists and turnovers. The higher the number, the more prevalent a player is (good or bad) in a team's offensive outcome. As you would expect, someone like Kim English has a high Usage%, while Steve Moore has an extremely low one.
Floor%: Via Basketball-Reference.com: Floor % answers the question, "when Player X uses a possession, what is the probability that his team scores at least 1 point?". The higher the Floor%, the more frequently the team probably scores when the given player is involved.
Touches/Possession: Using field goal attempts, free throw attempts, assists and turnovers, Touches attempt to estimate "the number of times a player touched the ball in an attacking position on the floor." Take the estimated touches and divide it by the estimated number of possessions for which a player was on the court, and you get a rough idea of how many times a player touched the ball in a given possession. For point guards, you'll see the number in the 3-4 range. For shooting guards and wings, 2-3. For Steve Moore, 1.30. You get the idea.
Anyway, using the Touches figure, we can estimate the percentage of time a player "in an attacking position" passes, shoots, turns the ball over, or gets fouled.
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Love how the snark factor has come out in the last week and a half
pretty much sums up my feelings as well
Great write up Bill
If there is one thing that leaves me hopeful it’s that we’ve seen everything at various times that we need to see.
We’ve seen the team hold its own on the boards.
We’ve seen the bench be a strength, rather than an active contributor to losses.
We’ve seen the offense be crisp and efficient vs good defensive clubs.
We haven’t seen it all at the same time very much this season.
As problems go you’d rather have this one as opposed to a demonstrable fatal flaw with no possible answer.
We know that the bench bros can play well—though I have my doubts about Kimmeh at this point, as he continues to morph into Jimmy McKinney.
I don’t think it’s effort. It’s definitely confidence, and confidence is a funny thing. It can come and go. These guys (Ratliffe, MPressey, Saffy, Krek, and English) simply are NOT this bad. They have to play better because they are better.
Let us all hope and pray that they’ve collectively bottomed out and have nowhere to go but up… because I’ll be damned if Marcus and Party Starter aren’t peaking at just about the right time. They can carry this club, but they can’t do it with guys actively kicking and screaming and pulling in the other direction.
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
by dcrockett17 on Mar 6, 2011 9:03 AM CST reply actions 7 recs
Love the last line.
That basically summarizes the issue. We don’t need greatness from everybody else — we’re getting that from a player or two already — we just need any positive contribution whatsoever, or at least not a negative one.
by Bill C. on Mar 6, 2011 9:16 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I'm Rec'ing this...
… if only because if I were to put together my thoughts in a post of my own, it would be this exact one.
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by RPT on Mar 6, 2011 12:43 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Well
I would kill for a Kim English who shot McKinney’s conference numbers and not 32pointeffing8 from the field.
Not afraid to nitpick
It's all well and good to say you'd kill in the abstract...
but who you would kill is the far more interesting discussion :)
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
Has Ratliffe hit a first full D1 season wall?
Since the first half vs. Baylor, he has been invisible. I don’t really understand it, as he hasn’t been wildly inconsistent from my recollection this season. These last few games from him have been an epic stinkbomb, and it’s absolutely killed us.
We have to a certain extent been use to the 2011 exponential version of Bad Kimmeh/Good Kimmeh, but he had generally been okay at home until yesterday. Between his last few games and the incredibly dumb NBA comments, I’m not sure what to think about him anymore. I had spent the majority of the season in the “English isn’t as good as we had hoped but not as bad as most of our fans think” camp, but it’s really hard to defend the last few games in any way.
As for Safford, I wonder if he was just too jacked for senior day yesterday? He missed some open jumpers by a mile, which I don’t really recall from him a lot this season (not that he’s shot incredibly well this year, but he hasn’t been as off as he was yesterday).
Unfortunately, as the write-up points out, this game played out almost exactly how we needed it to in order to win. The game had no rhythm, kU turned the ball over a ton, and they never had one of their 20 points in 3 minutes explosions that buried us in Lawrence earlier this year or late in Columbia last year. Unfortunately, no one could make a shot except Bowers, and we were especially cold from the three point line.
re: safford
just an observation, idk about the rest of the arena, but most of my section (not me or my son), and the surrounding ones actively booed saffy when he would come into the game or touch the ball. i hope this didn’t come across on tv (though i can’t imagine it didn’t). he played like crap, i’ll admit, but he was hustling out there. he’s given a knee to this program, for crying out loud. shame on those people for booing him. it was his senior day, and i wish some people would grow up. i was embarrassed to have that happening on national television.
"I've spoken my piece and counted to three." -Penny Wharvey McGill
I didn't hear any in my section (215)
There were some audible groans when some of his jumpers completely missed iron, but that’s about all I heard. I thought he got a decent pregame ovation. Obviously anyone actively booing him needs their head examined.
There was a couple of guys standing in the row behind me
Who booed every time English and Safford entered the game or touched the ball, kept calling them f****ts and worthless players, and even at one point referred to CMA as “the worst coach in Mizzou basketball history.”
Methinks they protest too much.
Elke ware zoon, zo blij van harte / Hemels boven ons zijn blauw / Er is een geest zo diep binnen ons / Oud Missouri dit is voor jou / Wanneer de band het Tijger oorlogslied speelt / En wanneer de strijd over is / We zullen stampen, stampen, stampen, rond de kolommen / Met een kreet voor oud Mizzou!
by Dutch Missourian on Mar 6, 2011 1:12 PM CST up reply actions
Also...
One of them bragged about running into Safford on campus and mouthing off at him about how awful a player he is…
Well, if that doesn’t motivate Saffy I don’t know what will. /sarcasm
Elke ware zoon, zo blij van harte / Hemels boven ons zijn blauw / Er is een geest zo diep binnen ons / Oud Missouri dit is voor jou / Wanneer de band het Tijger oorlogslied speelt / En wanneer de strijd over is / We zullen stampen, stampen, stampen, rond de kolommen / Met een kreet voor oud Mizzou!
by Dutch Missourian on Mar 6, 2011 1:17 PM CST up reply actions
Question about the format here:
This post was really three in one:
1) Links
2) Study Hall
3) Big man commentary (under the Bowers portion of Keys to the Game)
When a post gets this large, should I be breaking that into three different posts?
Depends on the game...
For losses on our home court to kU, I think it’s a great idea to roll everything up into one post that will roll off the front page and out of our collective minds as quickly as possible. When it’s, say, a breakdown of a homecoming win versus Oklahoma, I think it should be split up into 17 posts running three months.
:)
by apr67d on Mar 6, 2011 9:33 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
I like the links in the Study Hall
the big man commentary could be made a separate post, but i think it depends on the day, or what you want to do really
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I like this format after a loss
It’s therapeutic
by CBonerfied on Mar 6, 2011 9:59 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
I liked it.
One stop information.
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by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Mar 6, 2011 1:56 PM CST up reply actions
What if......
The confidence is lacking because the team isnt all that good? Lets remember all of these negative contributions next fall before falling into the “Missouri returns 9 of 10 and will be good” hype. How talented are most of the players, really? Average players in an unstructured offensive system is a recipe for 2-23 from three. Average players in a demanding defensive system is a recipe for 35 fouls a game.
“missing shots” is an easy cop out to losing games. When you take poor or guarded shots they don’t tend to go in. For every open shot that was missed, you could find four questionable ones that missed too. Saying we were cold is fair, but only in the context of an inept half court offensive performance that rarely resulted in good looks.
Those "average players in an unstructured offensive system"...
…have put together the 26th best offense in the country this year.
“For every open shot that was missed, you could find four questionable ones that missed too.”
Correct. That’s why I pointed out that 33% shooting would have been good enough. I’ve said on this blog many, many times that teams almost always shoot poorly against Kansas because KU leverages you into shots you’re not used to taking. That’s why I focused on the “Make the shots you can make” part. I expected poor shooting. I did not expect sub-30% shooting. And you can blame the overall “unstructured offensive system” if you want, but that system did not prevent Missouri from scoring nearly at will in Allen Fieldhouse a month ago. We can debate the overall level of talent, but the offense’s body of work still suggests it’s pretty good.
i sense an overall tone of dissatisfaction with cma in krbd2a's post.
maybe i’m reading something that isn’t there, but in the last 2 games, we have held our own in the first half, only to be dismantled in the second. has cma been outcoached by sadler and self, or has it been more of a fatigue factor by the players? i know that adjustments must be made during the game itself, but find it a bit disturbing in this recent trend of second half egg-laying. ok, maybe 2 games isn’t a trend, but still.
"I've spoken my piece and counted to three." -Penny Wharvey McGill
by threadkiller on Mar 6, 2011 11:38 AM CST up reply actions
The new meme is...
…CMA has peaked (after five years and presumably three consecutive tourney appearances), he can’t recruit (despite bringing in this year a nationally ranked class) and he can’t coach (despite beating Memphis to advance to the Elite Eight). Obviously, he should be fired so that Mizzou can hire Coach K.
"Smell the perfume but don't drink it because it might kill you." Erin Andrews recounting advise from Gary Pinkel
i didn't say anything even resembling anything that rash.
"I've spoken my piece and counted to three." -Penny Wharvey McGill
by threadkiller on Mar 6, 2011 11:53 AM CST up reply actions
Wasn't refering to you
It’s the new “PINKEL CAN’T ADJUST”.
"Smell the perfume but don't drink it because it might kill you." Erin Andrews recounting advise from Gary Pinkel
To me, it has nothing to do with coaching
Or even effort. Players not named Bowers, Denmon, Dixon, or Moore have lost a considerable level of their self-confidence. Some of the others (English, P. Pressey, and Safford) try to overcome that by trying too hard, and the rest (Ratliffe, Kreklow, M. Pressey) have become timid and deferential to the point of taking themselves out of the game mentally.
Once the confidence gets lost mid-game, the “little things” such as boxing out and defensive positioning become mental roadblocks.
CMA and staff’s job, for the rest of the season, is to be part therapist and part cheerleader. In the absence of the vocal leaders on the team, that burden is on the coaches. I’m pretty sure that the staff can handle it; we’ll see if they do. It can go either way…Big 12 tourney run (the bracket sets up well) and an unlikely Sweet 16 appearance, or Big 12 flameout and a one-and-done.
I don’t envy the coaching staff’s position. It’s hard enough preparing the team for an opponent; when counseling is essentially required on top of that, it must be tough.
by CBonerfied on Mar 6, 2011 11:55 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
6 of our top 9 players are head cases?
that may be a bigger pill to swallow than blaming it on coaching. i really hope you’re wrong. because if that’s the case, next year will be just as bad or worse. maybe we can prance on over to mamby-pamby land and find some self confidence for our guys. the jackwagons.
"I've spoken my piece and counted to three." -Penny Wharvey McGill
by threadkiller on Mar 6, 2011 12:21 PM CST up reply actions
Good thing is...
if it were to click in one game, then the next…it’d be fixed.
Nebraska game and yesterday…gameplan, effort, and defensive execution were outstanding in the first half. In each game, the offense was ghastly. The offensive woes eventually brought the rest of their game down a level or two.
I like what dcrockett said above. The fact that it’s been something different ailing the team at different periods over the season means that this team is capable of putting it together. And I think that also lends credence to the fact that it is NOT average players or a lack of talent.
by CBonerfied on Mar 6, 2011 12:28 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Look at the total minutes some of the guys are playing.
I am agreeing with the fatigue factor, in the second half. When no one else even gives a neutral Adj/GS it is tough to leave that player in the game. Therefore in the 2nd half when we are used to seeing a CMA Mizzou team start to apply the pain, it doesn’t happen.
This can be fixed if one to two players go from negative, to at least neutral.
Dr. Ausgiano schools me in the classroom and on the field of battle
by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Mar 6, 2011 2:01 PM CST up reply actions
What a disappointing month
That is all.
"Smell the perfume but don't drink it because it might kill you." Erin Andrews recounting advise from Gary Pinkel
Maybe next year we can channel...
our inner 07 football team in hoops and put together a “February to Remember.” Not quite the same ring as “November to Remember”, but I would gladly take it.
A February to Remembruary?
We all understand what being a Mizzou fan is like. That’s no excuse for being a douche.
by jaeger on Mar 6, 2011 11:58 AM CST up reply actions 4 recs
I want to be proud
but I’m frankly kind of ashamed at how little effort I put into that post.
We all understand what being a Mizzou fan is like. That’s no excuse for being a douche.
If English and Selby work out with Anthony
And Anthony (don’t follow NBA much, this is just what I read after his trade) is known as an amazing one-on-one offensive player…
And English and Selby are no good at creating their own shot, and they disrupt the flow of the offense when they do…
And they’re clearly not skilled in the same ways as Carmelo is…
…okay, what I am trying to say is that I wish Ray Allen (or hell, Kyle Korver) were from Baltimore
by CBonerfied on Mar 6, 2011 10:05 AM CST via mobile reply actions
BRIGHT SIDE!
mizzou lost, but managed to move up in kenpom. guess that’s a direct result of playing decent defense and forcing a bunch of turnovers.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Mar 6, 2011 10:37 AM CST reply actions
We are going to the game on Wed.
We will be loud & proud – still love my Tigers.
Cheers!
by tigers and chiefs fan on Mar 6, 2011 12:03 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Good luck
Bring home a victory. PLEASE
Elke ware zoon, zo blij van harte / Hemels boven ons zijn blauw / Er is een geest zo diep binnen ons / Oud Missouri dit is voor jou / Wanneer de band het Tijger oorlogslied speelt / En wanneer de strijd over is / We zullen stampen, stampen, stampen, rond de kolommen / Met een kreet voor oud Mizzou!
by Dutch Missourian on Mar 6, 2011 1:22 PM CST up reply actions
And you should . . .
. . . they’re a great bunch of student athletes for whom we should all feel proud – and supportive.
Go Mizzou!
One last thing to keep in mind...
Short of the top 2-3 teams, almost everyone has had a stretch of 3 or 4 games where they’ve just stunk.
While it sucks for us, it certainly doesn’t distinguish us from the rest of the pack. We’re not elite, but we’re about as good as anyone else in the pack.
We just gotta get this turned around—and fast.
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
Say what you want
but yesterday’s problems were shot selection and inside defense. The reason Mizzou shot so terribly was the fact that they could not find open shots, or they were forcing open shots. They run a slow half court offense.
And as much of a CMA lover as I am, I think his teaching of inside defense leaves much to be desired. Front the posts, and with this defense, help side should be there for a lob. Also, foul away from the ball, it does get called much. Grab, hold, and push away from the ball instead of allowing them to catch and then play defense. That is frustrating.
Damn, it's nice that Nebraska is gone! No more bickering with them stalk lovers anymore! Thank God for education!
i just read the comments section under that burwell article.
don’t make the same mistake i did. that’s my only advice.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Mar 6, 2011 6:51 PM CST reply actions
they should just remove the ability.
there comment section is on it way to tboard level.
worthless.
Fight Tigers Fight!
all i can thinik is
all we had to do was hit 5 more 3 pointers thats it.
everyone would be back on the wagon, yuk.
seasons like these makes teams grow for the better..
they now have 1 rule, win and you play another game.
lose and start practice.
Fight Tigers Fight!

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