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Otto Porter's high school coach Kenyon Wright has confirmed Porter's commitment to Georgetown.

Eric Bossi of Rivals. But on the plus side, I knocked over the Sun-Sphere.

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Explicative!!

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by TigerChief on Apr 12, 2011 11:10 AM CDT reply actions  

you mean expletive

I think :)

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by Wan Ihite on Apr 12, 2011 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh, expletive deleted

Elke ware zoon, zo blij van harte / Hemels boven ons zijn blauw / Er is een geest zo diep binnen ons / Oud Missouri dit is voor jou / Wanneer de band het Tijger oorlogslied speelt / En wanneer de strijd over is / We zullen stampen, stampen, stampen, rond de kolommen / Met een kreet voor oud Mizzou!

by Dutch Missourian on Apr 12, 2011 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

thank you for explicating.

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by Wan Ihite on Apr 12, 2011 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Pretty much confirmed by Haith.

http://campuscorner.kansascity.com/node/1779

So…1) I’m pretty sure it’s a violation for Haith to speak on the record about a recruit who hasn’t signed yet, therefore 2) I’m pretty sure, then, that if Haith did send this text, Senor Dearmond wasn’t supposed to actually publish it.

by Bill C. on Apr 12, 2011 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

before I go tweet that sources say that Mizzou is going to be in serious trouble

what if the NCAA actually did come down on us for this? I realize it would most likely be nothing more than a reprimand, but talk about some ammo for the Haith Haters and the Alden Should be Fired crew.

I’m almost to the point that I want Haith to succeed to spite some of the fan base as opposed to it actually getting enjoyment from the team being good. There is something fundamentally wrong with that.

by mizzou2396 on Apr 12, 2011 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

only a sith speaks in absolutes

Also, as I stated above, I don’t think anything of any sort of consequence would come, but it would be more volatile as ammunition for crowds who think Alden should be fired and Haith is a sign of the apocalypse (which coupled with Kimmeh’s picture yesterday may actually be true).

by mizzou2396 on Apr 12, 2011 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

OK..but you asked about it from the standpoint of the NCAA

which is what I spoke to.

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by The Beef on Apr 12, 2011 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

No doubt about it

You very much missed the joke :-)

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by The Beef on Apr 12, 2011 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

actually...his missing the joke

is about the only thing funny going on here

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by The Beef on Apr 12, 2011 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

This is ZD's call

being that it was his joke…so I guess you shall live in the dark

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by The Beef on Apr 12, 2011 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm a Missouri fan

you think I can’t handle a let down? What I can’t handle are things that exceed expectations. The 2007 football team the 08-09 basketball team are 2 of the more recent examples where I was completely lost. I didn’t know what to complain about. Didn’t know who to blame. It was chaos!!!!!

by mizzou2396 on Apr 12, 2011 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

my guess is the Beef's real name is Seth

and let me tell you that if that is correct the let down is insurmountable. Not because the joke wasn’t funny, but because you have pulled the curtain on The Beef – who I always envinsioned as someone who didn’t exist in this particular universe. Now, he’s just a guy named Seth.

I’m in a full on James Van Der Beek Moment over here.

by mizzou2396 on Apr 12, 2011 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm really hoping

that was an unintentional juxtaposition of “curtain” and “beef.”

by Babbalynski on Apr 12, 2011 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Yes, that’s the joke. Because “Seth” is ancient Summarian for th phrase “Beef curtain” as poorly transliterated from greek, based on the mishearing of a Sanskrit pun about toe lint.

Glory glory Man United, AND the other MU, AAAAnd the Leafs. Experiencing cheering whiplash for decades..

by Wan Ihite on Apr 12, 2011 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Er.

then nooooo…. that’s uh…. that’s not his name. We were thinking of a totally different lame joke.

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by Wan Ihite on Apr 12, 2011 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

if someone doesn't tell me the joke

I’m going to get internet tough guy mad and start challenging people to fights!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by mizzou2396 on Apr 12, 2011 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

ah, you want the caption contest thread then.

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by Wan Ihite on Apr 12, 2011 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's an incredibly cunning riddle

what could the broken picture link possibly be?

Do we get a hint?

Glory glory Man United, AND the other MU, AAAAnd the Leafs. Experiencing cheering whiplash for decades..

by Wan Ihite on Apr 12, 2011 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Dammit.

I can see the picture…really hate it when I can still see the picture and no one else can.

by walrusgod on Apr 12, 2011 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

It’s in your browser’s cache or something.

Glory glory Man United, AND the other MU, AAAAnd the Leafs. Experiencing cheering whiplash for decades..

by Wan Ihite on Apr 12, 2011 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

which Riddler

old school batman. Jim Carey? A cartoon one? One from the actual comic book? How does this tie into “Seth” joke?!?!?! We are running out of time!!!!!!!!

by mizzou2396 on Apr 12, 2011 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

So

My failed picture linking has actually helped to obscure the puzzle. I feel my fail has unintentionally turned into a win.

by walrusgod on Apr 12, 2011 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Cut the blue wire, the blue wire!
No wait, the red wire!
Only a fool would put poison in the…

Glory glory Man United, AND the other MU, AAAAnd the Leafs. Experiencing cheering whiplash for decades..

by Wan Ihite on Apr 12, 2011 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

It’s about a picture of someone getting punched…

Glory glory Man United, AND the other MU, AAAAnd the Leafs. Experiencing cheering whiplash for decades..

by Wan Ihite on Apr 12, 2011 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Explains a lot actually doesn’t it.

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by Wan Ihite on Apr 12, 2011 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

whatever, Seth.

this isn’t over. Mainly because nothing actually started that could be over, but, all the same, this isn’t over.

by mizzou2396 on Apr 12, 2011 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

If it isn't over...

then it’s on?

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by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Apr 12, 2011 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

weee!

They fit handles to it!

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by Wan Ihite on Apr 12, 2011 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

outsider here, I had to join to say

that this sub-thread/tangent is absolutely f’ing hilarious.

normal for this blog?

by ivan24 on Apr 12, 2011 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well ivan

May I call you ivan?

I can’t answer for everyone, but yes.

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by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Apr 12, 2011 5:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

come on now, have some respect

for Mister 24.

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by Wan Ihite on Apr 12, 2011 5:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

very good

that was my playing number.

by ivan24 on Apr 12, 2011 5:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Excellent

Now I hope that moving forward you will start to take it a little more serious and stop playing with it as much.

/innuendo’d

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by Wan Ihite on Apr 12, 2011 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

you mean

IS your playing number!! OMGZ11111 IT’S KIMMIE, EVERYBODY!!!!

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by threadkiller on Apr 12, 2011 6:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

My appologies.

Mr. Ivan24 Esq. I meant no disrespect in my deleterious use of your common name ivan.

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by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Apr 12, 2011 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Welcome to our insanity

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by The Beef on Apr 12, 2011 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Was thinking the same thing

What could Haith possibly be thinking?

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by calim on Apr 12, 2011 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

Funny...

…my first thought was “What could Mike Dearmond possibly be thinking?” :-)

by Bill C. on Apr 12, 2011 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

Why did he even comment about it?

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by lost..in the woods on Apr 12, 2011 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

to build a relationship with a person who buys ink by the barrell

he’s fighting a PR battle already, he needs some people to take his side.

by mizzou2396 on Apr 12, 2011 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

Shoot, if I'm DeArmond

I’m salivating about the fact I got Haith on the record about it. It’s not his job to make sure the coach doesn’t commit a violation.

Try not to take me too seriously

by calim on Apr 12, 2011 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

Difference between Mizzou and ku.

In Lowrents, it is everyone’s job to make sure the BB team doesn’t commit a violation…KC star included.

Don't Haith the player, Haith the game.

by nwtiger1 on Apr 12, 2011 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well someone forget to keep tabs on the ticket office

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by muwxman on Apr 12, 2011 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well yeah, if DeArmond took off-the-record comments and published them

But what makes you think it was off the record? It’s on the source to request a comment be off the record; if he didn’t, the reporter is free to use whatever he says. And Haith really ought to know that.

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by calim on Apr 12, 2011 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

Because I figure every coach in the world knows that rule...

…and I’m just working backwards from there. That, and I really am sure that stuff is said off the record all the time.

by Bill C. on Apr 12, 2011 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well, me too

But DeArmond’s been around a long time, too. And surely he knows the ramifications of printing something that was off the record. So working backwards from there…

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by calim on Apr 12, 2011 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well this isn't the greatest news to hear about the new Basketball coach.

What are the potential ramifications of this?

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by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Apr 12, 2011 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

Oh. Bad PR is better than no PR?????

/jk

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by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Apr 12, 2011 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

Did he sign with GT?

We are in the signing period no?

I am sure the lawyer speak would be “Saying he went to GT was true as he had been there to visit. The reporter was mistaken in thinking that it referred to his status as a recruit.”

/spinspinspin

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by nwtiger1 on Apr 12, 2011 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

Thats how I viewed it.

He went there for a visit.

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by muwxman on Apr 12, 2011 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

That would certainly be spin

But I’ve seen stuff more blatant than that small-ish text being spun to something unrecognizable from the original statement.

by walrusgod on Apr 12, 2011 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

And it really doesn't matter

He can’t comment on an unsigned recruit, period, whether that’s saying he had committed or only visited. Either way, I can’t figure out what the hell he was thinking.

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by calim on Apr 12, 2011 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

Apropriate spin?

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by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Apr 12, 2011 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

Enjoy losing in the first round every year, Otto.

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by CEW on Apr 12, 2011 11:18 AM CDT reply actions  

I only say this short-sided comment because I wish we signed him, for the record.

Pardon The Distraction

"I like to think of myself as Miguel Paul. Generally disappointing and a waste of space, but every once in a while, WOW."- ghtd36

by CEW on Apr 12, 2011 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

So, uh

Still 3 open shollies and 9 in the next 13 months. Just about zero interest from anybody to fill ANY of those 9.

Gulp.

by shaffe on Apr 12, 2011 11:33 AM CDT reply actions  

It may not be true behind the scenes

But as a slightly more informed than the average joe (PM subscriber, nothing more) fan – I’ve got to say I’m in a bit of freak out mode right now. Porter is gone, Daniels is unavailable. Who the hell is even out there to fill one of the 3 for this year, let alone finding quality to fill all 3 spots?

Maybe the assistants yet to be named can bring something to the table, but with the ground Haith has to make up I do not envy the work he is going to have to put in over the next year to try and fill those 6 or more scholarships.

by shaffe on Apr 12, 2011 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

The report from Twitter (and "sources")

Is that Miami won’t release him to come to Mizzou. If he gets out of the LOI, he’s going to have to go somewhere that isn’t here, which is a shame. He’d have been a nice pickup.

by walrusgod on Apr 12, 2011 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

I didn't know you could contingently release a player from his LOI

I think that whole thing is just jacked up. If I were blessed enough to have a child who was D1 athlete, I would strongly discourage him/her from signing a LOI. It just doesn’t make sense.

by mizzou2396 on Apr 12, 2011 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't know enough about the LOI rules

So I just pass along info and hope someone corrects me when I don’t know what’s right/isn’t right.

by walrusgod on Apr 12, 2011 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

flaking sources

fixed it for you.

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by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Apr 12, 2011 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

that was very considerate of you

please give me you home address so that I can send you a fruit basket

by mizzou2396 on Apr 12, 2011 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

If I remember correctly

there was a bit of a scandal a couple years ago about this, when a Miami football player announced he wanted to transfer to USF or UCF to be closer to his dying grandparents. Miami declared he couldn’t transfer to an SEC school, an ACC school, nor any Division I school in the entire state of Florida.

Elke ware zoon, zo blij van harte / Hemels boven ons zijn blauw / Er is een geest zo diep binnen ons / Oud Missouri dit is voor jou / Wanneer de band het Tijger oorlogslied speelt / En wanneer de strijd over is / We zullen stampen, stampen, stampen, rond de kolommen / Met een kreet voor oud Mizzou!

by Dutch Missourian on Apr 12, 2011 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

interesting

although, because it’s Miami you are talking about, I doubt they actually followed any semblance of the NCAA rule

/stereotype’d

by mizzou2396 on Apr 12, 2011 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Anyone Significant?

We don’t need to fill schollies just to fill schollies. Is there any flexibility with the schollies? Like let’s say since the rest of ‘11 class isn’t really any good, can we move some of them to next year or the year after that. Strike Two For Frank Haith. He can always work the count, but this can’t be good for his rep.

by CoeMoe on Apr 12, 2011 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'd be okay if we picked up Tony Kimbro

Rivals has him listed as interested, but not sure HOW interested. He’s not a “wow” prospect, but a solid three star guard. Not sure who else is on the radar.

Also, you say “strike two” on Haith. What was strike one?

by walrusgod on Apr 12, 2011 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

Actually

It may be getting to the point that we need to fill schollies just to fill schollies. Anderson had already left us in a bind by having unbalanced classes and not filling all 3 scholarships this years is just going to exacerbate the problem.

by dmbxv8 on Apr 12, 2011 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Open Tryouts!!

Whoop whoop!!!

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by lost..in the woods on Apr 12, 2011 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

I shall wow them with my patented two-handed missed free throw shot.

Elke ware zoon, zo blij van harte / Hemels boven ons zijn blauw / Er is een geest zo diep binnen ons / Oud Missouri dit is voor jou / Wanneer de band het Tijger oorlogslied speelt / En wanneer de strijd over is / We zullen stampen, stampen, stampen, rond de kolommen / Met een kreet voor oud Mizzou!

by Dutch Missourian on Apr 12, 2011 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

I see you that two-handed missed free throw, and raise you a total lack of fitness and athletic ability, and the PROVEN ability to consistently miss wide open layups.

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by Wan Ihite on Apr 12, 2011 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

...but would you sleep in the gym and shoot basketballs all night?

That would keep the commentary on you pretty poignant.

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by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Apr 12, 2011 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

What about if I sleep across the street from the gym and shoot basketballs in the evening

with a bb gun?

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by Wan Ihite on Apr 12, 2011 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Seems fair to me.

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by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Apr 12, 2011 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Correct ...

… but we actually need to sign the brunt of those scholarships in the early period, which begins in November, or we’re going to be picking through the table scraps once again next April.

That’s a ton Mike! Hope you really enjoy the fruits of Pelphrey’s labor down in Pigtown. Actually, wait, no I don’t. I hope you run that program into the ground.

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by mitch cumstein on Apr 12, 2011 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

So does Porter's coach really hate Gabe or something?

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"What's misunderstood about you?"
"Nobody thinks I'm a genius."

by Transmogrified Tiger on Apr 12, 2011 11:34 AM CDT reply actions  

Could be that Porter hadn't told his coach yet

Information travels so fast, someone with loose lips leaked the info as soon as it happened…could be that Porter’s coach told Gabe that he hadn’t confirmed it with Porter yet, and Gabe initially spun it as “rumors false” rather than “awaiting confirmation.” All about how everyone words everything, ‘cause we’re so sensitive to trying to read between the lines of what everyone says these days.

by walrusgod on Apr 12, 2011 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

Gabe's tweet:

“Apologize for the earlier inaccurate tweet on Otto Porter, but the coach did tell me in no uncertain terms he had not committed this AM”

by mizzou2396 on Apr 12, 2011 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

no, he did - at least verbally

Gabe 1st tweeted that he hadn’t and his coach confirmed it. This is the apology. The “innaccurate tweet” was that Porter did not commit to G’Town. He did.

by mizzou2396 on Apr 12, 2011 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

OOOHHHH ok

Proud resident of Kansas City MO

by TigerChief on Apr 12, 2011 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

i'm glad you pluralized it

because i’m blaming Mike and Gabe for all of this. Anderson leaving. Not getting Painter. Not getting Porter. Not getting McLemore. All of it is on them! Fire Yost.

by mizzou2396 on Apr 12, 2011 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

possessive*

Proud resident of Kansas City MO

by TigerChief on Apr 12, 2011 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

I Don't Know

The intracacies of the rules regarding recruits, but is there any way that Haith can make a last ditch effort to get Otto to reconsider leaving home. Ya know, make him feel like Matt Painter. Since he hasn’t signed yet, can other schools still talk to him with committing a violation. Don’t want us to get in trouble.

by CoeMoe on Apr 12, 2011 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

When?

Was the last time Missouri produced a crop of talent this good? And Mizzou missed on EVERY. SINGLE. ONE. OF. THEM. It gets worse before it gets better I suppose. But this is terrible. Mizzou has a hard time pulling in major talent as it is, when our own backyard finally produced some high major talent, not Mike Dixon/Marcus Denmon types but actual talent that other schools want, and we whiff. Now Mizzou isn’t to blame. We really have to scrape the barrel now. I blame Mike Anderson. No need to fuck over the school over. Get some commitments or something. Get some LOI’s. Then leave. Otto Porter, homebody my ass! I want to stay close to home so bad I’m willing to go to Washington fucking D.C.! Better than kU, I suppose.

by CoeMoe on Apr 12, 2011 11:36 AM CDT reply actions  

Breathe

Try not to take me too seriously

by calim on Apr 12, 2011 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

Otto Porter is a Mike Dixon/Marcus Denmon type

"I'm a genius, but I'm a misunderstood genius."
"What's misunderstood about you?"
"Nobody thinks I'm a genius."

by Transmogrified Tiger on Apr 12, 2011 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

Not Really

Neither was ranked anywhere near the 30th best player in the class. Marcus Denmon was ranked 150th and Dixon 144th. Not bad players, but not marquee by any stretch of the imagination. Those are three stars. We need more four and five stars, especially if there’s any merit to the statements that Haith can’t develop or actually coach. Imagine we get Beal (4th), Young (15th), and Porter (31st). Those are the caliber of players we need to get in order to keep advancing Mizzou as a program. Haith better be the best recruiter on the face of the Earth. Or else, it don’t look so good. 3 schollies and no one to fill them. Hello Tyler Stone and Jon Underwood. I guess if there were any year to be lean on recruits, this would be it. A senior dominated team should be able to withstand a lack of contribution/talent from the froshes. Haith has to tear it up in 2012 because he won’t be around much longer after that if he doesn’t.

by CoeMoe on Apr 12, 2011 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

Porter is 97th on the Rivals 150, and he plays against small school competition

I don’t want to be a “he wasn’t all that good anyway” guy, but let’s not overstate things here.

"I'm a genius, but I'm a misunderstood genius."
"What's misunderstood about you?"
"Nobody thinks I'm a genius."

by Transmogrified Tiger on Apr 12, 2011 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

He's actually slowly moved up the rankings

With every passing week. The different scouting services didn’t really have enough info on Porter initially to know exactly what his ceiling was. I think he’ll finish higher than 97th on Rivals when all is said and done.

by walrusgod on Apr 12, 2011 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

I thought that was the case.

Doesn’t Rivals redo their rankings after this signing period or sometime this summer?

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by Jack618 on Apr 12, 2011 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

the silver lining in this

is that Porter will shoot up in Rivals, but it will be after he signed with G’Town, which means people will call a conspiracy that Rivals ranked him high because he is going to G’Town and he would have never been that high had he gone to Mizzou.

Fire Yost.

by mizzou2396 on Apr 12, 2011 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

A coaching transition this media-focused...

is going to turn off some recruits. It’s just part of it. It will get better, give Haith some time to tap into the Missouri crop, before you write him off.

Pardon The Distraction

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by CEW on Apr 12, 2011 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

Also,

How much of the initial negative reaction to Haith’s hire has hurt our recruiting? I’m just spitballing here, but if I were a recruit and I saw that initial reaction to Haith’s hire, my first thought might’ve been “Damn, maybe I shouldn’t go to Mizzou…their coach apparently sucks.” Not every recruit is going to do the research that a lot of us at RMN do after making an initial reaction. Those first moments, where most Mizzou fans were ready to jump off a cliff, may have done some damage to Haith’s initial ability to go after recruits.

by walrusgod on Apr 12, 2011 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

It wasn't just internal mizzou reaction

a lot of the national press / pundits had the same “WTF” reaction to Haith. If I’m an 18 year old kid with a potential shot at a future as a multi-millionaire, then I don’t want to jump into any situation that has the slightest risk of messing up all that future fame and money. If lots of “experts” are making “ho hum” noises about a new coach who has doesn’t have an otherwise obviously sterling track record… Yeah, I’m thinking I’d feel very risk averse and uncomfortable about that, and find a lot of ways of talking myself into thinking I wanted to go to a much bluer blooded program with a far more famous coach. Mizzou can afford to gamble a little on a promising coach who hasn’t just wowwed yet, but whom we have reason to think might. Worst case scenario we can him after 2 or 3 years and move on. An 18 year old NBA hopeful, no way I’m taking that risk, because you only get to be 19 and in college once.

And maybe if I’d built a relationship with a coach over a few years prior, that would get me over this hump… But Haith has only been here a week, he hasn’t had time to build that up in order to compensate for the lack of resume.

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by Wan Ihite on Apr 12, 2011 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Okay, deeeep breaths.

Mizzou was hurt a LOT by Anderson’s leaving. No one’s really 100% sure how much Anderson had already hit the recruiting trail before he left, and it took us a bit to get a new head coach. I’m sad to see Porter choose G’Town, but he chose a storied school with recent regular season success and a coach generally considered to be a very good young-ish coach.

by walrusgod on Apr 12, 2011 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

Overreaction Over!

Man, that was ugly. Sorry about that. It was a shock to see that though. I’ll be quiet now…

by CoeMoe on Apr 12, 2011 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

It stings...no doubt

and in almost any other year and any other circumstances, I am guessing we end up with Porter. But because the deal was never closed by Anderson (not saying it could have been based on how Porter treated recruiting), and because G’Town had been in on him for certainly the 2nd longest, it made sense that he would go with what was comfortable (of what was left, since Anderson was gone).

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by The Beef on Apr 12, 2011 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Two things.

1. This is strange because the last time a coach was in transition we lost a highly touted recruit in Tyler Hansborough. I think it is funny that we assume we would get these guys if Coach A or B was on solid footing but we don’t get them any other time either.

2. It seems very clear that Anderson sold himself in recruiting very well as recruits and their mothers seemed to gravitate to him. For many, he seems to leave out any development of loyalty to the school.
Don’t folks see what Maclin is now as a STL kid who did good at home. He is a folk hero. He can come back to his home state and be adored. Not in a creepy way but in a “he is one of us” way. Kids that leave the state don’t get that and in McLemore’s case, he becomes public enemy number 1 regardless of who his mom roots for.

Don't Haith the player, Haith the game.

by nwtiger1 on Apr 12, 2011 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

The Thing Is...

Now that Haith said Missouri is going to be a priority, but now there’s no one left in Missouri, is that going to make him look bad to STL guys and such who hate Mizzou already? Missouri isn’t usually crawling with big time guys, we’re not completely barren, but Missouri isn’t a basketball hotbed. I’m glad he said it, but maybe he shouldn’t have so soon. I have hope this will get better, but no one ever said I was the brightest either…

by CoeMoe on Apr 12, 2011 12:13 PM CDT reply actions  

It was going to be tough this year for Haith to really get Missouri guys

The only “prime” prospect from MO left once Haith got here and was settled in was, to my knowledge, Porter, who seemed to have gone from a Mizzou lean to a G’Town lean while we were looking for a coach, he just never told anyone. Sure, some people will find a way to spin this as a “Mizzou sux they nvr gonna win!”, but there’s nothing we can really do to help that. Haith just has to keep going at it, and we’ll see how he does with MO prospects next year. Not giving up on this recruiting season, but Haith obviously knows that he has to look out-of-state for this year.

by walrusgod on Apr 12, 2011 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

The Only Decent Player In The Class

Next Year from Missouri is already committed to Notre Dame. Now, it’s still early, Otto Porter wasn’t ranked highly/at all until very late into the year, but next year’s Missouri class looks to be of lesser quality than this year’s. We’ll see if any Missouri guys develop and raise their profile. If only Miami would release Bishop Daniels from his LOI, he could come here. That would alleviate some of the concerns I have for the 2011 class. But they won’t and it’s no guarantee he’d even come here if they did.

by CoeMoe on Apr 12, 2011 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well said. . .

. . . life goes on. Haven’t we learned anything from Pinkel’s rise from being mocked for not knowing what he was doing to becoming the architect of one of Missouri’s greatest sports programs?

by countrycal on Apr 12, 2011 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Gosh, with this year's disaster looming

Miss Congeniality is the luckiest man on earth. Not only does he get a better job before the posse gets him in Miami, after the dust settles on the disaster of this year’s recruiting class, he won’t have any blame at all, because Anderson is the ready made scapegoat. Even though the fact that Miss Congeniality is here seemed to be what send Porter east to Georgetown

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by sm7600 on Apr 12, 2011 12:31 PM CDT reply actions  

hey, you leave sandra bullock out of this!

she knows how to recruit offensive tackles

m-i-z... z-o-u!

by Wooderson on Apr 12, 2011 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

you're changing that boys life

nah, he’s a changing mine!

That should win the cheesiest line of the movie, except

they say he scored really high in “protective instincts.” Seriously?

by mizzou2396 on Apr 12, 2011 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes, Otto Porter was all set to come to Missouri no questions asked

And then we had to go and hire Frank Haith. THAT is the reason he’s going to Georgetown.

Never mind that Georgetown has been in on him every bit as long as mike anderson was.

Never mind that anderson’s looking around/disloyalty to Mizzou was the SOLE reason that Otto didn’t commit and sign in November.

It’s all Haith’s fault.

by shaffe on Apr 12, 2011 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

no problems

I have a feeling I will be returning

The only measure of true success in the NFL is the Vince Lombardi trophy. Anything less is a rationalization.

by sm7600 on Apr 12, 2011 9:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Whenever the situation calls for somebody to whine and cry ... I'll be there.

Whenever there’s something for me to freak out about … I’ll be there.

Whenever something good happens … I’ll disappear until something bad happens.

by Bill C. on Apr 13, 2011 5:25 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

I'll just sit down here in the campfire light...

…. with the ghost of old Tom Joad.

/Bruce’d

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by RPT on Apr 13, 2011 7:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

If only we had a prior example

of Mizzou fans doing anything but blame Haith for things partially in his control. If only.

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"What's misunderstood about you?"
"Nobody thinks I'm a genius."

by Transmogrified Tiger on Apr 12, 2011 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't want to wait, for my lunch to get colder

da-da-da-da
Why can’t i eat it now
I don’t wanna wait
For – ha ha – a new toyota
I want the car
that’s got a lot of gas

by mizzou2396 on Apr 12, 2011 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

It's going to be a long summer . . .

. . . if every time I log on I am hit in the face with some variation of “The Sky Is Falling” meme regarding our basketball program.

At this time we have an experienced D-1 coach with major conference and post-season experience, six average-or-above seniors, all with major conference and post-season experience, and four underclassmen, of which three have major conference and post-season experience.

I think it is time for us to sit back, let Coach Haith and the team know we are behind them, and chill out while things work out, for better or worse – and then react, based on facts and not wild speculation.

by countrycal on Apr 12, 2011 12:33 PM CDT reply actions  

I agree. I think we also need to teach

Some people about the term “self fulfilling prophecy.” If you don’t give Haith the tools and support to win, he has that much less chance to win. I’m sure a lot of us will be somewhat more histrionic/angry if a couple years go by and our program stays stagnant/moves backward, but let’s wait until there are cracks in the clouds before we start to talk about the sky falling.

by walrusgod on Apr 12, 2011 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

when they say “he didn’t get any support”, this kind of thing is presumably what they meant.

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by Wan Ihite on Apr 12, 2011 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

We have a better than 50% shot of a Coach Haith phone interview this afternoon.

4pm on The Closers – listen live here

Any questions from the peanut gallery?

The sleeper has awoken. . .awakened. . .he woke up.

by SleepyFloyd7 on Apr 12, 2011 12:58 PM CDT reply actions  

What do you hate about Mizzou fans?

/stokingthefire

jk

Proud resident of Kansas City MO

by TigerChief on Apr 12, 2011 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh, and I should mention...

that Friday Afternoon English Lessons looks like it is going to make it’s triumphant return this Friday. A full 2 hour show with Kimmie English. Fire up your cell phones.

The sleeper has awoken. . .awakened. . .he woke up.

by SleepyFloyd7 on Apr 12, 2011 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Did you tell DeArmond that on the record?

And if so, isn’t that a violation?

Try not to take me too seriously

by calim on Apr 12, 2011 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ask him why we had a disappointing season this year.

I mean if we are going to blame him for Porter and not getting any big time MO recruits this year, we should blame him for everything. Additionally, ask him we didn’t stop Edney and why no one called timeout after the 4th down in 1990.

by mizzou2396 on Apr 12, 2011 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Absolutely . . .

. . . awesome, Sir. I salute you with a rec’d.

by countrycal on Apr 12, 2011 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

ask him if he thinks the Dove commercials were influential on Porter's decision.

Does he think that Porter was promised free Dove soap? What type of soap does Haith use? What would the preferred meme of the Haith era be? Can it be soap?

by mizzou2396 on Apr 12, 2011 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Does he like 5 hour energy?

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by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Apr 12, 2011 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Might want to ask . . .

. . . why Kimmeh threw his new coach under the bus with this tweet:

“Don’t blame Porter at all. You don’t pick a school going into a blind situation , even if it is your home state school. It’s about comfort.”

Not the kind of thing you tweet when your new coach is still out there trying to recruit player imo.

by SJDMU on Apr 12, 2011 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's not throwing Haith under the bus

It’s reiterating that Anderson was never able to get Porter’s comfort level up. Kimmie’s just trying to make sure people don’t panic and/or take their anger out at Porter. It’s damage control more than anything.

We really need to, as a group, calm down and stop reading so much into every statement/Tweet that’s made.

by walrusgod on Apr 12, 2011 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Are you #*$%*& kidding me?????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Coach Haith is out there telling recruits that we’re building a winning program and that Mizzou is going to be a competitive team next year.

And Kimmeh is out there on twitter telling every single recruit that might go to Mizzou “you don’t pick a school going into a blind situation.”

Do you think that is going to help or hurt us with getting any decent recruits?

WTF is Kimmeh doing consoling Otto Porter anyways. Porter turned us down. Kimmeh should be saying that it is Porter’s loss not coming to Mizzou. Seriously, it was a really really stupid comment … and you’re stupid if you don’t see that.

by SJDMU on Apr 12, 2011 9:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Whoa.

Seems like today’s mantra for everyone should be “remember to breathe.”

How many kids pick a school going into a blind situation? True, seems like Porter didn’t give Haith much of a shot, but it’s likely because he gravitated towards G’Town while we were coachless. I think Kimmie cares a lot about the program, and he was one of the first to take to Twitter to defend Haith when he got here and everyone else was going crazy.

Also, I see how you’ve interpreted it, but that doesn’t mean everyone else is going to interpret it likewise. Could be that someone sees this and goes “wow, those guys at Mizzou are classy, they’re wishing someone well even after he didn’t pick them.” Not saying it will happen, but it could. No real need to call people (especially me) stupid, alright? I understand you see this as a poor choice by Kim, but I was just offering up my view, which was different from your interpretation.

by walrusgod on Apr 12, 2011 10:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not at all. It’s the opposite he’s saying this isn’t about who Haith is at all, it’s just the transient SITUATION Haith is in (i.e., new at the program).

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by Wan Ihite on Apr 12, 2011 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

my post was supposed to be ironic

you say: “since it is possible to miss the point, it isn’t good”
I say: “I fail to see your point.”

Meaning, since I missed your point it must not have, actually, forget it. Do you understand ZouDave’s joke up above?

by mizzou2396 on Apr 12, 2011 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

The Internet

Where jokes go to be completely misunderstood.

by walrusgod on Apr 12, 2011 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

HAHAHA

OMG LOL, my sides hurt. Stop it!

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by Wan Ihite on Apr 12, 2011 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

good.

now tell me what ZouDave’s joke was.

by mizzou2396 on Apr 12, 2011 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

third son of Adam

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by The Beef on Apr 12, 2011 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nope

MORE RIDDLES!!

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by The Beef on Apr 12, 2011 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

it's a riddle wrapped in an enigma

that’s been dipped in mystery and covered with intrigue.

by mizzou2396 on Apr 12, 2011 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Was discussing this the other day....

they probably had other sons in between Cain, Abel and Seth. The third son “of note” I guess. Better to be singled out for what Seth did than what happened to Cain or Abel.

/OT history

"I have CDO. It's like OCD, but the letters are in alphabetical order. Like they should be."

by BigMOman on Apr 12, 2011 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

obligatory link

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by Wan Ihite on Apr 12, 2011 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

who's

that’s right, you’ve been grammar slammed

by mizzou2396 on Apr 12, 2011 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't know

…waits for it…

"I have CDO. It's like OCD, but the letters are in alphabetical order. Like they should be."

by BigMOman on Apr 12, 2011 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

he's so full of grit

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by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Apr 12, 2011 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

...in that he plays baseball every day.

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by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Apr 12, 2011 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

except when he's on the DL

which is the right way to deal with an injury

by mizzou2396 on Apr 12, 2011 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

so that on the DL he can...

continue mentoring the young players…BECAUSE THAT’S WHAT LEADERS DO!

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by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Apr 12, 2011 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

and he leads by example

which is by playing it the right way with grit

by mizzou2396 on Apr 12, 2011 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

ah...baseball sayings.

This can go for days.

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by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Apr 12, 2011 5:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

except when he's on the DL. Then you just can't find him.

Pun’d

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by Wan Ihite on Apr 12, 2011 5:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

you guys suck

You’re supposed to say “THIRD BASE!”

"I have CDO. It's like OCD, but the letters are in alphabetical order. Like they should be."

by BigMOman on Apr 12, 2011 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

They should...

but if they don’t… NOW THEY CAN!

"I have CDO. It's like OCD, but the letters are in alphabetical order. Like they should be."

by BigMOman on Apr 12, 2011 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

The world is full of people capable of missing the point

of a 12 inch railway spike as it was being hammered into their foreheads.

There is no such thing as an numissable point when it comes to people on the intertubes.

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by Wan Ihite on Apr 12, 2011 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Fortunately the internet is FULL of typso.

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by Wan Ihite on Apr 12, 2011 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

typos and porn account for at least 72% of the internet by weight.

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by Wan Ihite on Apr 12, 2011 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

And made up statistics

take up most of the remaining 46%.

by Babbalynski on Apr 12, 2011 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

ah, you are an wise man I see.

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by Wan Ihite on Apr 12, 2011 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

I support all 3 types of lies.

/A cookie for whoever gets this reference.

by Babbalynski on Apr 12, 2011 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Congratulations, you get a cookie.

But since I’m a damn liar, it’s really a rec.

by Babbalynski on Apr 12, 2011 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

There are also three types of people,

those who can count, and those who can’t.

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by Wan Ihite on Apr 12, 2011 5:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

It appears Babbalynski is an educated man.

Now I really hate him.

/Holliday’ed

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by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Apr 12, 2011 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Not trying to post a Riddler pic again.

No matter how much you are unintentionally daring me to do so.

by walrusgod on Apr 12, 2011 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Coach, I know you can't talk about individual recruits

but are there positions in particular you’re currently recruiting, or perhaps a particular skill set?

by u2nspenserfan on Apr 12, 2011 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Some have argued that your flexibility in coaching schemes at Miami led to a disorganized offense at Miami. What do you say to that, and how are you going to promote a fundamentally sound offense at Missouri?

by u2nspenserfan on Apr 12, 2011 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

well this is awesome.

it really has been a banner 30 days for the mizzou basketball program.

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by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 12, 2011 2:25 PM CDT reply actions  

hiring Frank Haith is a banner moment

mark my words. (But if i’m wrong don’t remind me).

by mizzou2396 on Apr 12, 2011 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

So are you saying we should put up a banner for CFH?

by u2nspenserfan on Apr 12, 2011 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Right outside Mizzou Arena

We need a banner that says “Faith in Haith” and a video screen right beneath it showing an endless loop of Carlton from Fresh Prince dancing.

by walrusgod on Apr 12, 2011 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

There isn't one :-)

I just was intentionally misinterpreting your comment.

By the way I agree with walrus’s idea about the Faith in Haith banner, but I think it should be hanging over a gospel choir robed in black and gold singing “Faith” by George Michael in a gospel style. I think that’d get everyone in the mood for some basketball… right? Right?

by u2nspenserfan on Apr 12, 2011 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

We need to rewrite the song "Faith"

With new lyrics. “You gotta have Haith, Haith, Haith…”

by walrusgod on Apr 12, 2011 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

slowclap.gif

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by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Apr 12, 2011 5:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

that was fully intentional

I do know how to post pics. I thought it would be funny.

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by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Apr 13, 2011 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

like the

falcoln05 line :)

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by Wan Ihite on Apr 12, 2011 5:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

I got your joke and was making a joke about it myself

but the internet is apparently full of misinterpreted jokes, typos, porn, made up statistics and twitter.

by mizzou2396 on Apr 12, 2011 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

@sashagrey:

I think that’s about 77.43% accurate

by u2nspenserfan on Apr 12, 2011 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

3 times out of 11.2

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by Wan Ihite on Apr 12, 2011 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

.

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by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 12, 2011 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

I care about the Rangers and the Mizzou softball team.

So all in all, things have been alright.

"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
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by ghtd36 on Apr 12, 2011 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

nelson cruz is on roids.

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by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 12, 2011 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Prove it.

"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010

by ghtd36 on Apr 12, 2011 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

i've got his pea from march under my bed.

i can fedex it to you. express.

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by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 12, 2011 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

You got one of his vegetables?

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by ghtd36 on Apr 12, 2011 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

I caught that too!

"Every absurdity has a champion to defend it" Olivar Goldsmith

by 1Believer on Apr 12, 2011 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

yep. nothing i can say to that.

nothing to see here, please move along.

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by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 12, 2011 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

come on

give peas a chance.

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by Wan Ihite on Apr 12, 2011 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

screw peas.

least favorite vegetable.

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by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 12, 2011 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Peas are INFINITELY better...

than broccoli, cauliflower, and numerous others.

Peas are better than asparagus, too.

by ZouDave on Apr 12, 2011 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Unless they have been

under your bed since March!

"Every absurdity has a champion to defend it" Olivar Goldsmith

by 1Believer on Apr 12, 2011 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

i disagree.

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by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 12, 2011 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

If prefaced by snow

they jump a little bit. But still well below Broccoli and green beans.

by Babbalynski on Apr 12, 2011 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

The government says you should eat more vegetables

but what they’re NOT telling you, is that they taste like shit.

/dailyshowed.

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by Wan Ihite on Apr 12, 2011 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Interesting

Peas are one of the few vegetables that I can actually stand to eat once in a while.

by walrusgod on Apr 12, 2011 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Spinach is nice. Snow peas are ok. Onion has grown on me, and green peppers can be cooked into things… Potatoes can have good results too… er…

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by Wan Ihite on Apr 12, 2011 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Give red onions a try if you don't like yellow or white.

They’re sweeter, but I can really only eat them cooked. Sweet peppers have increased my vegetable eating as well.

by Babbalynski on Apr 12, 2011 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah, I'm ok with red ones too

Lettuce to me was the gateway vegetable. It was harmless enough that I could start sneaking other things in with it.

Except cucumber which has a toxically strong flavor that contaminates everything it touches. BLECH!

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by Wan Ihite on Apr 12, 2011 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

yep

Walla Walla sweet onions will change your world.

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by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Apr 12, 2011 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

i'm not sure he's proud of that.

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by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 12, 2011 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh that's good

yeah, I’m allergic to lots of vegetables too

/shiftyeyes

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by Wan Ihite on Apr 12, 2011 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

besides, who wants carbs in freaking vegetables?

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by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 12, 2011 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

buying corn

supports nebraska. If you eat corn, you are a booster of the nebraska football team because tthat’s all they have.

Good luck sleeping with that on your head.

by mizzou2396 on Apr 12, 2011 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

......

Um, yeah. Cause we don’t grow ANY corn in Missouri. I always forget that the stuff my dad grew was actually maize.

by Babbalynski on Apr 12, 2011 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

BOO CORN!

And also death to the JayHawk packing industry!

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by Wan Ihite on Apr 12, 2011 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

corn is not a veggie.

it is a grain. ask any member of corn nation.

"Bob Gibson pitches as though he's double parked."~Vin Scully

by threadkiller on Apr 12, 2011 6:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

do we have to?

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by Wan Ihite on Apr 12, 2011 6:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

well,

we don’t, no. you can.

"Bob Gibson pitches as though he's double parked."~Vin Scully

by threadkiller on Apr 12, 2011 6:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

I personally am planning to move several thousand miles away from Nebraska

And Kansas. All at the same time.

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by Wan Ihite on Apr 12, 2011 7:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

well, i don't consider those real vegetables.

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by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 12, 2011 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

-

Imagine there’s no Heaven
It’s easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky
Imagine all the people
Living for today

Imagine there’s no countries
It isn’t hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace

You may say that I’m a dreamer
But I’m not the only one
I hope someday you’ll join us
And the world will be as one

Imagine no possessions
I wonder if you can
No need for greed or hunger
A brotherhood of man
Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world

You may say that I’m a dreamer
But I’m not the only one
I hope someday you’ll join us
And the world will live as one

by mizzou2396 on Apr 12, 2011 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

You stole his soup?

…oh, urine….ha.

Urine fine company with ’roids jokes.

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by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Apr 12, 2011 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Total random comment, and not a very original one...

…but I’m calling those who hate Frank Haith for no real reason “Haters”, and those of us who are willing to reserve judgment til we see the product on the floor, “Haithers”. Discuss.

I dunno man...hockey?

by majortool on Apr 12, 2011 2:33 PM CDT reply actions  

THANK YOU!

I thought I was the only one who felt that way

by mizzou2396 on Apr 12, 2011 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

you really are a major tool.

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by Wan Ihite on Apr 12, 2011 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

user name reader reads user names

"I have CDO. It's like OCD, but the letters are in alphabetical order. Like they should be."

by BigMOman on Apr 12, 2011 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

I'm recursive like that.

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by Wan Ihite on Apr 12, 2011 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

how bout that football team here, huh?

cant wait for them to make the catches and score the touchdowns.

by mrbrambles on Apr 12, 2011 2:44 PM CDT reply actions  

Well oh darn.

I kind of expected Porter to go elsewhere once we lost Anderson though. Haith better get some recruits though. I’d like to get a fifth forward just in case somebody goes down, and so we can ease Green into the rotation.

by StopSpe on Apr 12, 2011 3:03 PM CDT reply actions  

Rest of the 'Ships

What does the RMN collective want to see for the 3 schollies this year? Any names? Positions? I’m excited to see what Haith can conjure up for the rest of the ‘11 class. If I can get excited for Tyler Stone and Jon Underwood, I think I can get excited for whoever Haith brings in. I saw where someone earlier mentioned Tony Kimbro? He seems like a good athlete that can’t shoot. He’d fit right in…

by CoeMoe on Apr 12, 2011 3:28 PM CDT reply actions  

I would like

McLemore
Beal
Porter

Anything less is accepting mediocrity.

by mizzou2396 on Apr 12, 2011 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think Kimbro would be a perfectly reasonable prospect

I definitely wouldn’t be upset if we had to “settle” for Kimbro. Still absolutely no clue what’s going on with Bishop Daniels (can Miami put conditions on releasing someone from an LOI? Not sure that was completely cleared up earlier) or if he’d even want to come here (that also hasn’t really been addressed).

As for other names, Bill C. had some in a post from a couple days ago…the name I remember is Yvan Ngirabakunzi, partially because it’s a fun name, and he seems like a good 2-star forward who has some potential to grow if he fills out a little bit.

by walrusgod on Apr 12, 2011 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Daniels

Would be a decent consolation prize. I think he’s underrated. His athleticism and scoring prowess should play well in college ball. He’s a smallish combo guy but man can he get up. Kimbro, Daniels, and Ngirabakunzi is no Porter, Beal, Young, but considering the circumstances, I could think of worse. We need someone who can develop guys.

by CoeMoe on Apr 12, 2011 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

i got you a list

lebron james
kobe bryant
dwight howard

by mrbrambles on Apr 12, 2011 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

YES!

Maybe we can swing a trade. Flip, Kimmie, and Steeeve!. I wonder what Mizzou salary cap situation looks like…

by CoeMoe on Apr 12, 2011 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

plus, it's reported that Flip wants out of his contract anyway.

It hasn’t been verified, but it’s been out there for a while. We could trade for some future recruiting spots too.

by mizzou2396 on Apr 12, 2011 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Our cap situation

Should look pretty good. We have quite a few expiring contracts, and Flip seems like he might be willing to waive his no-trade clause if the right team comes calling. We should be in pretty good shape for Paul becoming a free agent after this year…solid pick up at PG.

by walrusgod on Apr 12, 2011 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Per Mike DeArmond
NCAA official in infractions told me “it’s really nothing, if it even is a violation.” Kid was already established as not going to MU.

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by muwxman on Apr 12, 2011 4:06 PM CDT reply actions  

oh man

NCAA officials aren’t allowed to talk specifically about on going investigations. I hope the don’t get hit for lack of institutional control.

by mizzou2396 on Apr 12, 2011 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

My big concern right now...

He still has no staff. I really thought he’d have at least his lead guy in place toward the end of last week, through the weekend.

"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin

by dcrockett17 on Apr 12, 2011 4:11 PM CDT reply actions  

The rumor running around

Is that he has two out of three guys nailed down, but doesn’t want to make any announcements until he can introduce all three (or something similar). It’s close to done, just gotta have some Faith in Haith®.

by walrusgod on Apr 12, 2011 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

can we just call this fhaith

for short?

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by Wan Ihite on Apr 12, 2011 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

fhaith©

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by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Apr 12, 2011 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

patent pending

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by Wan Ihite on Apr 12, 2011 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Damn straight it is.

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by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Apr 12, 2011 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

This Has To Hurt As Well

Not only has the Mizzou fanbase (me included sometimes) been in OH NOES! mode for awhile, especially about Haith, but he isn’t even established here yet, and he doesn’t have a staff. Maybe the kid would love our assistant coaches. But we don’t have any. Once we get our staff together, we’ll see recruiting round into shape. If we can get T.J. Ford or Chris Carrawell, that’d be a step. I don’t know who it is, but we also need an ace X’s and O’s guy. A teacher of the game. He’s out there somewhere.

by CoeMoe on Apr 12, 2011 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not sure that

TJ Ford is in the frame still at this point? I think I read that Indiana is now refusing to play Lance Stephenson and now TJ Ford is going to end up playing those minutes…

"Alcohol may be man's worst enemy, but the bible says love your enemy." --Frank Sinatra

by Other Side of the Pillow on Apr 12, 2011 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

European Prospects

In case any of you were interested.

If you don't have time to do it right, when will you have time to do it over?
John Wooden

by lost..in the woods on Apr 12, 2011 4:21 PM CDT reply actions  

CFH live thread

Go
kfru.com

"Alcohol may be man's worst enemy, but the bible says love your enemy." --Frank Sinatra

by Other Side of the Pillow on Apr 12, 2011 4:34 PM CDT reply actions  

Unconsidered strategy re: recruits

transfers that will sit out next year and be ready to play in 2012 to soften blow of losing next year’s senior class

"Alcohol may be man's worst enemy, but the bible says love your enemy." --Frank Sinatra

by Other Side of the Pillow on Apr 12, 2011 4:37 PM CDT reply actions  

They still use up a scholarship next year though

Not sure if you meant that, but we can only take 3 more guys for 2011, whether they be high schoolers, JUCOs, or transfers sitting out.

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"What's misunderstood about you?"
"Nobody thinks I'm a genius."

by Transmogrified Tiger on Apr 12, 2011 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

I figured they would--

but i was mostly passing on info from CFH’s appearance on The Closers

"Alcohol may be man's worst enemy, but the bible says love your enemy." --Frank Sinatra

by Other Side of the Pillow on Apr 12, 2011 6:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Fried Chicken!

If you don't have time to do it right, when will you have time to do it over?
John Wooden

by lost..in the woods on Apr 12, 2011 4:41 PM CDT reply actions  

Did we just become best friends right there?

WE DID!

The sleeper has awoken. . .awakened. . .he woke up.

by SleepyFloyd7 on Apr 12, 2011 4:45 PM CDT reply actions   2 recs

What's your favorite dinosaur?

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by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Apr 12, 2011 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

My goodnes…howdy there stranger (sic Jon)

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by Wan Ihite on Apr 12, 2011 6:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

i think (a dangerous pastime for me, indeed)

that the success (or lack thereof) of our bball team this upcoming season will do wonders for recruiting next year. there is no reason why this team shouldn’t be better next year than this past one. in turn, all this bs about the coaching change and losing recruits will seem like ancient history to some teenage recruits. winning cures all ills (except rules infractions), and i can’t wait to see our guys win 30 this next season!

"Bob Gibson pitches as though he's double parked."~Vin Scully

by threadkiller on Apr 12, 2011 6:32 PM CDT reply actions  

i'm a dufus, strike the "lack thereof". geesh.

"Bob Gibson pitches as though he's double parked."~Vin Scully

by threadkiller on Apr 12, 2011 6:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sad trombone

Oh well, now who do we go after?

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by ratherfantastic on Apr 12, 2011 6:34 PM CDT reply actions  

the happy trombone.

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by Wan Ihite on Apr 12, 2011 6:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

hey, didn't you used to play in the nhl?

you won a stanley cup with the avalanche, right?

"Bob Gibson pitches as though he's double parked."~Vin Scully

by threadkiller on Apr 12, 2011 6:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah

he’s the stanley cup winning freshman journalism major.

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by Wan Ihite on Apr 12, 2011 7:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

dang, he's like doogie howser or something.

"Bob Gibson pitches as though he's double parked."~Vin Scully

by threadkiller on Apr 12, 2011 7:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Better school?

BETTER SCHOOL?

Imma count to 3…

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by Wan Ihite on Apr 12, 2011 6:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

atleast there is no pessimism or derogatory sarcasm in this article,

Towards Mizzou, or current situation and/or Frank Haith.

by McZou on Apr 13, 2011 4:44 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Interesting...
Englishscope24 Kim English
I will never respond to a text from Mike Dearmond. He drops name. #Songbird
sptwri Mike DeArmond
@Englishscope24 Do what you must, but you know that’s not true.

by Mac6uffin on Apr 12, 2011 7:06 PM CDT reply actions  

Huh.

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by Wan Ihite on Apr 12, 2011 7:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

What does "He drops name" mean?

If you don't have time to do it right, when will you have time to do it over?
John Wooden

by lost..in the woods on Apr 12, 2011 9:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

He'll drop your name as a source

Instead of just saying “sources said,” which could get you into trouble if you don’t want your name associated with something but think it needs to be said.

by walrusgod on Apr 12, 2011 10:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Harsh

If you don't have time to do it right, when will you have time to do it over?
John Wooden

by lost..in the woods on Apr 12, 2011 10:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

pretty much feeling the reason

twitter is (or should be) banned during the season

by mrbrambles on Apr 12, 2011 11:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

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