This man's name is Frank Haith. I'll give you a moment to Google him.
Noted sports blogger and bikini connoisseur Brooks at Sports By Brooks is saying he could be Mizzou's next coach.
Talk amongst yourselves.
UPDATE 10:55pm CT
From the ultra-reliable Joe Walljasper on Twitter:
"Got confirmation that the University of Miami's Frank Haith has agreed to be Missouri's basketball coach."
Wow.
about 1 year ago
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There is no way this can be true right?
I mean, no offence to Frank and I’m sure he’s a great guy and whatever. But if Mizzou can’t do better than him at this moment in time then we may as give up this whole basketball thing.
what?
I'm tell ya like the bath tub told the toilet stool, " I get as much ass as you but I don't have to take all that shit!"
-Dolemite
I'll admit it
I had to Google him to find out what the hell he has done at Miami. The answer? Not much. Granted, the Hurricanes have an almost historically bad basketball team…but still.
I hate to say this…I’d have rather broke the bank for Alford. I hope either this report isn’t true or Haith activates God mode when he gets here if he is hired, ’cause this is one hell of a “Whaaaaa?” kind of pick.
As I said in the other thread...
If Matt painter was a home run hire, Frank haith is a strike em out/throw em out to finish the season 0-162 type hire.
Annoying You Since 1986
Also:
Consider this your overnight crazytalk thread.
"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010
The Holy Roman Empire....
was neither Holy, nor Roman, nor an Empire.
Discuss. Talk amongst yourselves.
Bet me!
by TigerBartender on Apr 3, 2011 10:39 PM CDT up reply actions
yes but can I still get fresh noodles?
Dr. Ausgiano schools me in the classroom and on the field of battle
by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Apr 4, 2011 12:38 AM CDT up reply actions
That's Crazy Talk!
-No, it’s true.
-No, I know, that’s my brother Crazy Talk. We’re all a little worried about him.
Beerleaguer -- White Sox: Something about a greased tee, a behind, and a pair of pliers
by UribeAuction on Apr 3, 2011 10:39 PM CDT up reply actions
FWIW ...
All the rumors had Mizzou going after a current major conference coach that no one was talking about…This would fit.
Annoying You Since 1986
Looks like the 'Fire Mike Alden'
Movement will gain even more steam over on Tigerboard. If this is true, and he turns out to be a crap coach. This is a lose your job type of hire.
that is a the cherry on this sundae
gotta get a guy that his old fans would be willing to pack his house up for him
I'm tell ya like the bath tub told the toilet stool, " I get as much ass as you but I don't have to take all that shit!"
-Dolemite
I really hope this is a reverse Painter saga...
With our hearts being ripped out first, and then we have the rug neatly placed underneath our feet again and we find out that SportsbyBrooks’ report was just the moonshine talkin’.
Who the F is Frank Haith, and what style of basketball is he bringing to Missouri?
Also, I’m scared.
Its cold...
…and there are wolves chasing me.
Bet me!
by TigerBartender on Apr 3, 2011 10:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Everything I've found has him as an above average recruiter...
And a below average in game coach. Oh, and they play slow. Tempo has always been below 200th in the country.
Annoying You Since 1986
So how many coaches has Brooks predicted today?
"Smell the perfume but don't drink it because it might kill you." Erin Andrews recounting advise from Gary Pinkel
Give Brooks credit:
If this comes to fruition, there will be exactly no doubt who had it first.
That, however, seems like an awful big ’if."
"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010
Frank who?
Yeah, I’m kind of scratching my head over this one too, but 14 wins over ranked opponents in six seasons. Anderson only had 13 in five.
Someone must think he’s a hell of a recruiter or something…
People had a problem with Smart never finishing better than 4th in the CAA's...
Haith has never finished better than T-5th in the ACC.
Annoying You Since 1986
…But Smart finished 4th in the NCAA tournament.
by mhbtiger on Apr 3, 2011 10:54 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
self reply:
And “Frank Haith” is trending, #9
Bet me!
by TigerBartender on Apr 3, 2011 10:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Anyone else wanna go to the airport when he arrives..
And yell mean things and boo??
Annoying You Since 1986
Ok....
So was about to send off my TSF donation…but I am definately having second thoughts.
Annoying You Since 1986
Well looks like more winter free time to watch Fox Soccer Channel
by drewder on Apr 3, 2011 10:52 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
I don't get FSC...
Can I come over? I’ll bring beer.
Bet me!
by TigerBartender on Apr 3, 2011 10:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Walljasper..
“Got confirmation that the University of Miami’s Frank Haith has agreed to be Missouri’s basketball coach.”
Unbelievable.
"I'm a genius, but I'm a misunderstood genius."
"What's misunderstood about you?"
"Nobody thinks I'm a genius."
by Transmogrified Tiger on Apr 3, 2011 10:54 PM CDT reply actions
This is a
“we’ll attempt to beat kU by hiring the most unlikely candidate ever to be our basketball team’s head coach” hire
If you don't have time to do it right, when will you have time to do it over?
John Wooden
by lost..in the woods on Apr 3, 2011 10:56 PM CDT up reply actions
This is a "I'm leaving to be the AD at another school so I'm leaving you with a nice parting gift"
Type hire.
Annoying You Since 1986
I picture the phone call like this:
Alden: “Frank Haith?”
Haith: “Yes…who is this?”
Alden: “Mike Alden, Athletic Director for the Missouri Tig-”
Haith: “I’ll take it.”
by walrusgod on Apr 3, 2011 10:56 PM CDT reply actions 18 recs
rec'd
kinda’ giggling.
Sorry, can’t help it.
Innovators look at the same thing as everyone else, yet see something different.
by K. Scott Bailey on Apr 4, 2011 12:40 AM CDT up reply actions
This is probably accurate...
that’s the scary thought.
There is a God and I'm not it, after that EVERYTHING is subjective. Be careful for what you wish for, you just might GET IT!
Sanity check (feel free to disregard)
Couldn’t an interview/due diligence appear to an uniformed blogger looking for a scoop as “in negotiations” ?
Bet me!
If this is true -- and with Walljasper saying it, I'm a lot more wont to believe it --
it is absolutely, positively stunning.
"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010
And quite possibly the most un sexy hire in the history of sports.
Annoying You Since 1986
Yup.
When it was SportsbyBrooks, we could all revel in the fact that he’s an often-wrong douche.
When Walljasper reported it, we all had a blank stare, Googled “Frank Haith,” and began to cry.
Seriously.
I can’t even react to this, it’s completely numbing.
"I'm a genius, but I'm a misunderstood genius."
"What's misunderstood about you?"
"Nobody thinks I'm a genius."
by Transmogrified Tiger on Apr 3, 2011 10:59 PM CDT up reply actions
which one of you did this?
on wikipedia:
Frank Haith (born November 3, 1965 in Queens, New York) is the current head men’s basketball coach at the University of Missouri, as reported by reputable sources such as Bernie, Twitter, and Tigerboard.
Lmao
Twitter & Tigerboard
If you don't have time to do it right, when will you have time to do it over?
John Wooden
by lost..in the woods on Apr 3, 2011 10:57 PM CDT up reply actions
F$@k me.
Just shoot me now.
by u2nspenserfan on Apr 3, 2011 11:15 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
This is actually real it seems
That just blows my mind.
I trust Alden, I think, but this reeks of a panic buy need-a-coach-right now hire.
If he was interviewed for this job
That interview must have been OFF THE CHARTS for someone with his record to get consideration.
i never thought i'd be on the anti-Alden wagon
but boy am i on it now. this is fucking appalling.
by nickpapagiorgio on Apr 3, 2011 10:58 PM CDT reply actions
two weeks ago
A buddy who is a big Miami fan (second team after for Mizzou) said we should hire him. I told him he was an idiot.
Who’s the idiot now?
Some people say "hate" is a strong word. If you're talking about kansas, it's not strong enough.
who's the idiot now?
Mike Alden?
Live Adventure!
by MountainManMike on Apr 4, 2011 12:49 AM CDT up reply actions
Watch Missouri State get a better coach than we do
If you don't have time to do it right, when will you have time to do it over?
John Wooden
by lost..in the woods on Apr 3, 2011 10:58 PM CDT reply actions
Are we sure this isn't MSU's hire?
Bet me!
by TigerBartender on Apr 3, 2011 11:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Wouldn't blow my mind
If you don't have time to do it right, when will you have time to do it over?
John Wooden
by lost..in the woods on Apr 3, 2011 11:00 PM CDT up reply actions
HAHAHA
“Mizzou goes from hiring Matt Painter to Frank Haith. Like going from Megan Fox to Bea Arthur (dead or alive).”
by PiggieBrown on Apr 3, 2011 10:58 PM CDT reply actions 2 recs
An analogy.
Matt Painter was a half-court shot.
Shaka Smart was a three-pointer.
Ben Jacobson was a layup.
Frank Haith is dunking on one of those three-foot plastic basketball hoops in your den.
"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010
Those used to be so fun!!
If you don't have time to do it right, when will you have time to do it over?
John Wooden
by lost..in the woods on Apr 3, 2011 11:00 PM CDT up reply actions
I prefer "clip on hoop that you shoot trash into"
"I'm a genius, but I'm a misunderstood genius."
"What's misunderstood about you?"
"Nobody thinks I'm a genius."
by Transmogrified Tiger on Apr 3, 2011 11:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Dangling Painter in front of the fan base and hiring Haith...
Is like ordering a Kim Kardashian porno, and getting brokeback mountain instead.
Annoying You Since 1986
by MUTIGERS86 on Apr 3, 2011 10:59 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
I'm sad now.
"I was a victim of a series of accidents, as are we all."
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by sirensofsilence on Apr 3, 2011 11:00 PM CDT reply actions
Maybe
Alden was like hey I’m already in Orlando why not check out this whole Florida scene. It was a cost saving measure.
That's what he went there for!
If you don't have time to do it right, when will you have time to do it over?
John Wooden
by lost..in the woods on Apr 3, 2011 11:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Cost saving?
The NIT hosts home games if you get a good enough seed! We are going to make so much money of this?!?!!?! OMGLAKJSDF;LADKSFA
Now Goodman confirms.
Folks, this is happening.
Annoying You Since 1986
I might kill myself
If you don't have time to do it right, when will you have time to do it over?
John Wooden
by lost..in the woods on Apr 3, 2011 11:03 PM CDT up reply actions
MUTIGERS86
Suddenly looks like the greatest hire ever…
Annoying You Since 1986
Scott Sutton
Suddenly looks like the greatest hire ever…
"Alcohol may be man's worst enemy, but the bible says love your enemy." --Frank Sinatra
by Other Side of the Pillow on Apr 3, 2011 11:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Let's not say anything crazy now.
"I'm a genius, but I'm a misunderstood genius."
"What's misunderstood about you?"
"Nobody thinks I'm a genius."
by Transmogrified Tiger on Apr 3, 2011 11:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Quinn Snyder
Suddenly looks like the greatest hire ever…
Live Adventure!
by MountainManMike on Apr 4, 2011 12:51 AM CDT up reply actions
If you like cocaine sure...
if you like basketball still….NO.
Dr. Ausgiano schools me in the classroom and on the field of battle
by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Apr 4, 2011 12:53 AM CDT up reply actions
I want to barf.
"Alcohol may be man's worst enemy, but the bible says love your enemy." --Frank Sinatra
by Other Side of the Pillow on Apr 3, 2011 11:03 PM CDT reply actions
OK. You guys know me.
I am the calm, reasoned guy who wants to give everyone a chance. I give people like Mike Alden and Gary Pinkel the benefit of the doubt 999 times out of 1,000.
But based on the evidence I have about Mr. Haith, this hire is the suckiest bunch of suck that ever sucked.
"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010
by ghtd36 on Apr 3, 2011 11:04 PM CDT reply actions 3 recs
I'm out.
I’m done. Cold turkey. Best of luck. Hope Mike and Frank get along well and win some games. Hope they have success. Wish Kimmie and Marcus and Law all have good senior years.
But I’m gone. Sorry.
Bet me!
Really?
It’s like that?
You’ve got to have some faith that Alden must have had SOME reason for thinking this was going to work. I mean, he could have waited for Stevens or gone after Shaka or Jacobson or Marshall or anyone else. But he didn’t, and you know what? He’s got a pretty good track record when it comes to this sort of thing.
So if you want to be out, I wish you well. Me, while I don’t necessarily agree with the hire, realize that I will never know as much about the situation as Alden does now, and am fascinated to hear his explanation and to see where this goes.
Try not to take me too seriously
Basically...
I’m out for the media storm, and the offseason and everything else. I’ll take a look at what he puts on the court next year. But Mizzou Basketball is no longer priority number one for me on my sports radar.
Bet me!
by TigerBartender on Apr 3, 2011 11:36 PM CDT up reply actions
I presume he kicked all those tires
and came up knowing they were nothing doing.
But…. uh… the pool wasn’t THAT sharp a drop off afterwards.
Okay, have to try and come up with something positive
Well, the Hurricanes are an awful basketball school, so maybe he didn’t have resources? Please, someone tell me he didn’t have resources.
The only thing he had was recruits...
Because recruiting to Columbia is much easier than 18 year olds to south beach.
Annoying You Since 1986
That's exactly my Miami buddy says
He’s been on the Frank Haith bandwagon since Anderson was gone. He swears this is good, he had no support, no resources, no fan base, etc etc and has beaten more ranked teams than Anderson in the last 5 years.
I just keep telling him he better be right or I’m going to kick him so hard in the nuts.
Some people say "hate" is a strong word. If you're talking about kansas, it's not strong enough.
I would almost rather take a shot at a rehabilitated Quin than this
I am not joking at all.
I do not comprehend
we went from swinging for a homerun, to…
to….
to…
I’m so freaking confused.
We had top 15 money and we’re going for a guy who was 1 year from being fired, and is middle of the pack ACC?
WTH?
I have lost all faith in Alden.
I was excited for Anderson. I was excited for Pinkel. Hell, I was excited for Quin…
I’m just ready for freaking bed after seeing this, maybe I’ll wake up and it’ll be a dream?
middle of the pack ACC
being kind?
/resumesfetalposition
Phil Pressey is officially transfering to Arkansas.
I have no confirmation on this, but there is no way in hell he is staying for this guy.
Annoying You Since 1986
I was JUST feeling motivated to get back on the diet wagon.
And now I just want to stuff my face with a lot of cheese.
"I was a victim of a series of accidents, as are we all."
twitter @sirensofsilence
by sirensofsilence on Apr 3, 2011 11:05 PM CDT reply actions
smothered in gravy.
Might as well go all-in
"Alcohol may be man's worst enemy, but the bible says love your enemy." --Frank Sinatra
by Other Side of the Pillow on Apr 3, 2011 11:06 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't know about gravy.
But bacon, yes.
"I was a victim of a series of accidents, as are we all."
twitter @sirensofsilence
by sirensofsilence on Apr 3, 2011 11:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Nono. WIth gravy. And fries. Really
Poutine is the greatest hangover food ever, and I’m calling for a lot of hangovers in our 24 hour forecast.
by Wan Ihite on Apr 4, 2011 12:24 AM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
big rec for poutine
Montreal is a glorious city.
by Professor Chaos on Apr 4, 2011 2:46 AM CDT up reply actions
I gave you a sympathy rec,
because I hate when people do that.
Innovators look at the same thing as everyone else, yet see something different.
by K. Scott Bailey on Apr 4, 2011 4:14 AM CDT up reply actions
My apologies
it was late, I was on my way to bed.
by Professor Chaos on Apr 4, 2011 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Took a spring break trip up to Toronto a couple years back.
Because you can drink there when 19. And got some of that stuff at some random fast food place near the Wayne Gretzky highway. Delicious.
by TheHamburglar on Apr 4, 2011 5:28 AM CDT up reply actions
Substitute bourbon for cheese
And that’s how I feel.
I’ve been a big Alden supporter, but I just can’t see this.z
by Sheriff Blalock on Apr 3, 2011 11:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Help us Board of Curators
you are our only hope.
Dear Lord baby Jesus...
lyin’ there in your ghost manger, just lookin’ at your Baby Einstein developmental videos, learnin’ ’bout shapes and colors…
"I was a victim of a series of accidents, as are we all."
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by sirensofsilence on Apr 3, 2011 11:15 PM CDT up reply actions
The only reason this hire was leaked tonight, i think
is that bars in Columbia close at midnight on Sundays, and therefore most of us cannot go out and try and numb the pain.
It's a funny name.
There is no way the big boosters will approve this right?
I mean come on…it can’t be possible that guys donating millions to the university would settle for this.
Annoying You Since 1986
I really hope..
that photo is on the front of the Columbia Tribune Sports page tomorrow.
One thing I've learned through all this...
Is Mike Alden listened to nobody about picking a coach. Seriously Matt Painter and…I’ve already forgotten this guys name were two names I had never heard in talks for our coaching job until they were brought up for consideration. Also goodbye relevant basketball.
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I'd argue against this point...
…but I can’t.
"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010
I don't blame you
I have irrefutable logic
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are you f*cking kidding me?
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by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 3, 2011 11:10 PM CDT reply actions
How did this guy even get on the radar anyway?
Did Alden just pull a name out of a hat?
"I was a victim of a series of accidents, as are we all."
twitter @sirensofsilence
by sirensofsilence on Apr 3, 2011 11:10 PM CDT reply actions
Alden must be an AWFUL darts player.
Bet me!
by TigerBartender on Apr 3, 2011 11:11 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
When Alden went to talk to Painter
Haith threw himself in front of the plane yelling “I’m a good coach! Please consider me! I’ll be cheaper!”
by walrusgod on Apr 3, 2011 11:11 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
allow me to try and talk all of you guys off the ledge! (i said try...)
(just for the record i edit the miami SBN blog, i also graduated from MU in december, so this is really, really weird for me)
alright, the first thing you guys should know is that practically nobody that follows miami baskebtall (all 6 of us) will be sad to hear that frank is leaving. that said i think mizzou fans have to try and take this with an open mind. coaching miami basketball is the equivalent of coaching indiana football. there is zero recruiting base or cache, no fan support, no history (basketball was actually dormant for a long time in the 80s i think) etc. his record is deceiving in this manner, and despite the fact that he was at miami for a while, there are still large institutional biases that make the job very difficult on a year-to-year basis.
the knock on the guy is that he’s a great recruiter but a bad game coach, and there might be some truth in that, but they guy can REALLY recruit. miami had the best center in the ACC last year (going by hollinger’s PER/pomeroy stats), a guy named reggie johnson that frank got out of north carolina, i.e. he wasn’t recruited by duke, UNC, nc state etc. he recruited head to head with uconn for five star PG durand scott, and he won that battle. he managed to get john wall to take an official visit. the guy is going to get really good players at mizzou (he has ties to texas), better than what is there now IMO.
also the team he’s leaving behind is poised to be his best ever (i’m not going to find the links now but most preseason rankings had them in the top 4 in the acc) and i think if we fast forwarded 365 days from now that the hire would look much better.
as for the style of basketball, well the pace is going to be slow and a few years down the road when frank can get his players in there you’re gonna see traditional back to the basket big men and a lot of three point shots. that’s pretty much what we have here, but then things are a bit screwy because the talent is still pretty thin. his teams have had bad hallmarks — a crushing inability to break presses, ironically, terrible road performances etc — but they have also been good at times.
i’m not convinced at all that this is going to work. it could really be a spectacular failure. but miami is a really tough place to win, so tough that leonard hamilton got hired outright to the washington wizards after sweet 16 appearance. if anything, you guys can take solace in the fact that if he does flame out, he will leave good talent behind.
by rayrayrayrayrayrayrayray on Apr 3, 2011 11:10 PM CDT reply actions 3 recs
Appreciate you stopping by.
I definitely agree with your point about Miami basketball and its limited resources, which makes me feel a little better.
"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010
You say hes a great recruiter...
Then say the talent is still pretty then. No offense, but a great recruiter doesnt need more than 7 years to get talent. Especially talent to South Beach.
Annoying You Since 1986
well
“talent is thin” was probably a bad phrase. it’s not so much that the talent is thin but that at a school like miami you end up recruiting a lot of projects that you try to wedge into positions and places that they might not fit. they have, outright, two of the ten best players in the ACC imo (johnson & scott) and some decent talent behind that. it’s a thin team because recruiting in bulk to miami is not easy.
and this is a tough job to recruit too, outside of the weather. keep in mind that — i’m not making this up — they try very hard NOT to have recruits take official visits during the season, because they don’t want to take them to a game where the attendance is under 1,500.
by rayrayrayrayrayrayrayray on Apr 3, 2011 11:16 PM CDT up reply actions
I really hope that a year from now
We can all look back at this thread and realize how stupid we looked. I really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really hope that happens. Really.
I think I agree...
There is a God and I'm not it, after that EVERYTHING is subjective. Be careful for what you wish for, you just might GET IT!
very kind of you
i’ll have to remember to come back to this in a few days when my bloodlust subsides.
by nickpapagiorgio on Apr 3, 2011 11:14 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm afraid I find the idea that
he is a recruiting phenom and the fact that “talent is still pretty thin” 7 years into his tenure to be irreconcilable statements.
"Alcohol may be man's worst enemy, but the bible says love your enemy." --Frank Sinatra
by Other Side of the Pillow on Apr 3, 2011 11:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Must be terrifying for you to have the exact same thought I do.
Annoying You Since 1986
It was bound to happen some time.
But I am afraid. I don’t know which is going to cause me to lose more sleep— the new coach or this development.
"Alcohol may be man's worst enemy, but the bible says love your enemy." --Frank Sinatra
by Other Side of the Pillow on Apr 3, 2011 11:17 PM CDT up reply actions
If the best you can do at this point buddy
is throw is a parachute, I would rather just find the bottom on my own.
Terrible road performances?
That’s ok, we’re already used to that.
Some people say "hate" is a strong word. If you're talking about kansas, it's not strong enough.
i guess i'll trust mr mike on this one.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 3, 2011 11:16 PM CDT reply actions
Agreed
Im willing to put my faith in Mr.Alden at the moment. I really think I am goin gto be pleasently suprised. Maybe…
BREAKING NEWS
katie couric leaving cbs, says SOURCES!!!
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by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 3, 2011 11:17 PM CDT reply actions
If we paid this guy more than 750k we got ripped off.
Annoying You Since 1986
did mo state get a better coach than us?
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by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 3, 2011 11:19 PM CDT reply actions
Ways you might know that you may not have made a great hire:
1) You are being mocked by national reporters regarding said hire.
@GaryParrishCBS Gary Parrish
Really, Missouri?
"Alcohol may be man's worst enemy, but the bible says love your enemy." --Frank Sinatra
by Other Side of the Pillow on Apr 3, 2011 11:19 PM CDT reply actions
Jerry Palm
<blockquoteI owe Mizzou fans an apology. I said you’d get a good coach. Wow, was I wrong.>
Annoying You Since 1986
Try again.
Jerry Palm:
I owe Mizzou fans an apology. I said you’d get a good coach. Wow, was I wrong.
Annoying You Since 1986
And they're piling on...
@espn4d Pat Forde
If Missouri has really hired Frank Haith, Mike Alden better have the Explanation of the Century.
"Alcohol may be man's worst enemy, but the bible says love your enemy." --Frank Sinatra
by Other Side of the Pillow on Apr 3, 2011 11:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Okay, I’ll preface this by saying that yes, I am a KU fan. But, this is a 100% honest and serious question.
Would re-hiring Quin Snyder not have been a better option?
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Most people think so at this point.
It's a funny name.
by Turd Ferguson on Apr 3, 2011 11:21 PM CDT up reply actions
On paper, though, Haith makes Quin look like Dean Smith
It's a funny name.
by Turd Ferguson on Apr 3, 2011 11:24 PM CDT up reply actions
I would rather have hired a KU fan who was purposefully trying to Lose.
Annoying You Since 1986
by MUTIGERS86 on Apr 3, 2011 11:22 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Is it too late to go back for Ben Jacobson?
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by sirensofsilence on Apr 3, 2011 11:20 PM CDT reply actions
I absolutely cannot wait to hear an explanation from Mike Alden
Seriously
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we're obviously going to the final four next year.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 3, 2011 11:22 PM CDT reply actions
Considering we didn't even make the NIT as recently as 2008...
It could be worse.
by jooooooooones! on Apr 3, 2011 11:24 PM CDT up reply actions
I smell a boycott..
If you don't have time to do it right, when will you have time to do it over?
John Wooden
by lost..in the woods on Apr 3, 2011 11:23 PM CDT reply actions
So...you think the Board of Curators is paying attention to this media coverage?
"I was a victim of a series of accidents, as are we all."
twitter @sirensofsilence
by sirensofsilence on Apr 3, 2011 11:23 PM CDT reply actions
Maybe this was Alden's April Fool's joke
but he couldn’t spring it because of the Final Four/no announcing coaches during that weekend.
Please?
alden to RMN:
HA YOU DIDNT SEE THAT ONE DID YOU? THINK YOU ARE SO SMART? WHAT ABOUT NOW?
Um.
Wut.
"It was one of those good, deep sleeps; you know, the ones where you wake up and a stream of drool is steadily racing down your shirt? Yes, that kind of sleep." -Landry Fields
by Thelonious Dunk on Apr 3, 2011 11:25 PM CDT reply actions
Where is Mike Alden's nephew?
I want to berate him.
"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010
Hahaha, yeah, what happened to that little punk?
"I was a victim of a series of accidents, as are we all."
twitter @sirensofsilence
by sirensofsilence on Apr 3, 2011 11:25 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm a man. I've got guts and balls.
I will support our team even if we make this stupid hire. He’s just a kid, you can’t expect him to step up to the plate and actually eat his crow.
Confused, but F it, I'm a Tiger and I'll support this character I've never really heard of...
by HHKB Chris on Apr 3, 2011 11:25 PM CDT reply actions 3 recs
Oh, I'll support him.
We’ll all support him.
But (and I’ll only speak for myself here) my expectations just got significantly lowered.
"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010
That is the positive thinking of a Pirates and Royals fan :)
If you don't have time to do it right, when will you have time to do it over?
John Wooden
by lost..in the woods on Apr 3, 2011 11:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Didn't you guys start out like that last year too?
If you don't have time to do it right, when will you have time to do it over?
John Wooden
by lost..in the woods on Apr 3, 2011 11:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Two walk off home runs in one weekend is a hell of a way to start the season.
Ah, the annual April season of hope.
by jooooooooones! on Apr 3, 2011 11:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Doing right by the seniors next year?
Fail.
"Alcohol may be man's worst enemy, but the bible says love your enemy." --Frank Sinatra
by Other Side of the Pillow on Apr 3, 2011 11:26 PM CDT up reply actions
I will be the one not supporting him and Booing him all season.
Even when we win.
Annoying You Since 1986
That's not a reasonable reaction from a fan.
And I’m the dude who called this hire the suckiest bunch of suck that ever sucked.
"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010
I'll cheer for the team.
But I will be booing him. Loudly.
Annoying You Since 1986
What has he done wrong?
"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010
Discredited his sources
If you don't have time to do it right, when will you have time to do it over?
John Wooden
by lost..in the woods on Apr 3, 2011 11:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Took a job he was totally unqualified for.
I have turned down positions I was set up to fail in.
Annoying You Since 1986
That is an insane argument.
So it’s Frank Haith’s responsibility to save Mike Alden from himself?
"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010
If I was offered a job that I was so ridiculously underqualified for...
And I knew I was going to be so terrible I would be fired in a year or two, I would not take that job. Haith should have done the same. He did not, so I will Boo him.
Annoying You Since 1986
He was offered the same position at a different school
not a US Senate seat. Stop embarrassing yourself.
"I'm a genius, but I'm a misunderstood genius."
"What's misunderstood about you?"
"Nobody thinks I'm a genius."
by Transmogrified Tiger on Apr 3, 2011 11:34 PM CDT up reply actions
At a school that has 10x the attendance of his old school.
And that will not allow him to go 7 years without a winning conference record.
This is like going from the CEO of Snuggie to the CEO of Apple.
Annoying You Since 1986
You can't honestly think that Frank Haith thinks he's "so ridiculously underqualified" for the Missouri job.
That would be the thoughts of a man with severe self-esteem issues.
"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010
No, those would be the thoughts of an intelligent human.
Annoying You Since 1986
You're being totally irrational and unreasonable if you believe that it is Frank Haith's job to turn down Mike Alden to save Mike Alden from himself.
For a job he is presumably getting a nice pay raise for. Even if he gets canned in two years, he’s likely to be making a higher salary for those two years than he would be making at Miami, making it a smart move for him to take it.
"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010
Agreed.
Hey, it’s not his fault that Alden gave him this chance, right? Haith isn’t the one we should have the biggest beef with…it’s Alden. Kinda like Purdue, where Painter escaped scorn because it was obvious their AD was the one who was a completely idiot.
Thoughts like these are an assault on logic.
"I'm a genius, but I'm a misunderstood genius."
"What's misunderstood about you?"
"Nobody thinks I'm a genius."
by Transmogrified Tiger on Apr 3, 2011 11:31 PM CDT up reply actions
I won't support, im a fan, but i refuse to root for a team that wont try
Damn, it's nice that Nebraska is gone! No more bickering with them stalk lovers anymore! Thank God for education!
I'll support the team at first,
And I’m sure a lot of you all will once we all get over the shock of this hire. That being said, there is little margin for error now.
the SMS fans are really cute right now.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 3, 2011 11:30 PM CDT reply actions
From twitter: BOYCOTT
ATTN #Mizzou: You MUST e-mail the Board of Curators and demand they refuse to hire Frank Haith. http://bit.ly/gLF4ma
Some people say "hate" is a strong word. If you're talking about kansas, it's not strong enough.
Already on it.
If you don't have time to do it right, when will you have time to do it over?
John Wooden
by lost..in the woods on Apr 3, 2011 11:32 PM CDT up reply actions
how about...
ARE YOU F@&*ING SERIOUS!?!?!
Some people say "hate" is a strong word. If you're talking about kansas, it's not strong enough.
How long before Mike Alden..
..accepts the AD director at Miami, signs Frank Martin as the basketball coach spot that is now open, and recruits Sheldon Richardson to join the football team for summer practices.
I would be very mad
If any of that happens, but mostly the second thing, I will blame you.
I fully expect whoever the AD is at Miami to give Frank a call, but I’m firmly in the camp that he’s loyal enough to K-State to turn it down immediately. Also, as has been mentioned ad nauseum in this comment thread, Miami isn’t exactly the kind of place that’s going to give him the coaching resources he’s used to.
by Ahearn Alley on Apr 4, 2011 12:01 AM CDT up reply actions
we don’t have an athletic director (this isn’t a joke. he left for texas tech a few weeks ago)
by rayrayrayrayrayrayrayray on Apr 4, 2011 12:32 AM CDT up reply actions
Orf FTW.
http://twitter.com/#!/MU4124/status/54762979475988480
Beerleaguer -- White Sox: Something about a greased tee, a behind, and a pair of pliers
In case you were wondering...
I’m eating some cheese. And drinking a glass of red. And it’s gross because I had already brushed my teeth.
LOOK AT WHAT YOU’VE MADE ME DO, MIKE ALDEN!
"I was a victim of a series of accidents, as are we all."
twitter @sirensofsilence
by sirensofsilence on Apr 3, 2011 11:34 PM CDT reply actions
I have an 8 am class tomorrow and am drinking
This does not happen normally.
It's a funny name.
by Turd Ferguson on Apr 3, 2011 11:37 PM CDT up reply actions
People are apparently not happy about this
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Twitter | Gas House Graphs
raises hand
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by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 3, 2011 11:36 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Raises hand, extends middle finger
This is garbage.
by u2nspenserfan on Apr 3, 2011 11:54 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Per Blair Kerkhoff
Haith was the lead recruiter for Daniel Gibson and LaMarcus Aldridge.
Maybe this won’t set Mizzou basketball back a decade?
Then hire him as an assistant when he gets fired by Miami next year.
Holy hell, is this a baffling hire.
"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010
Dammit Tepper, you always shoot down my senseless optomism
It’s about the best we can cling to right now, our door panel floating in the sea around the Titanic (mizzou hoops program is the boat if you didn’t catch that).
Yeah, that's right.
Because I’m always so negative around here.
This whole night is so bizarre
"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010
You're right, I acted brashly
I am sorry. Can we still be internet friends?
/internetisseriousbusiness
He also seems to have recruited well at Miami
And has done Sweet FA with it.
Also, FWIW
I was very strongly considering finally getting around to donating to the TSF soon. My wife and I finally have our lives in order to where we could pull it off. If we had hired Painter I was going to instantly sign up for $100 a month (hey it’s a lot for a 25 year old!). If we had somehow pulled Stevens out of the hat, I would’ve tried to make $150 work into our budget.
Can’t say Haith is inspiring me to pick up the phone first thing tomorrow morning with my bank account number in hand.
3 star SG signed for this year, ranked at the back of the Rivals 150
and two 4 stars(SG/C) committed for next year, both ranked in the top 100 by rivals
"I'm a genius, but I'm a misunderstood genius."
"What's misunderstood about you?"
"Nobody thinks I'm a genius."
by Transmogrified Tiger on Apr 3, 2011 11:41 PM CDT up reply actions
This effing sucks
I don’t normally post all caps, but 38% CONFERENCE WINNING PERCENTAGE? REALLY?
by apr67d on Apr 3, 2011 11:37 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
I love Mizzou basketball.
After the Chiefs, it is my second sports love, speaking chronologically. This is making it much harder to find the expendable income for season tickets next year (that I couldn’t really afford this year, frankly.) :/
"Alcohol may be man's worst enemy, but the bible says love your enemy." --Frank Sinatra
by Other Side of the Pillow on Apr 3, 2011 11:38 PM CDT reply actions
On the positive side
apparently the dude can recruit
and
we have 7 seniors.
Great moments are born from great opportunity.
Follow me on Twitter @muwxman
Starting tomorrow morning
We should start thinking more positively, coming up with why how Haith could possibly work out. But for right now, I think we all need some catharsis. A LOT of catharsis.
And booze.
A LOT of booze.
"I was a victim of a series of accidents, as are we all."
twitter @sirensofsilence
by sirensofsilence on Apr 3, 2011 11:43 PM CDT up reply actions
I dont know why everyone is so upset
Frank Haith is a perfectly Cromulent hire.
great...
more stuff to look up on GOOGLE
If you don't have time to do it right, when will you have time to do it over?
John Wooden
by lost..in the woods on Apr 3, 2011 11:48 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I believe his coaching spirit
will embiggen this program
You, sir, are acceptable.
"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010
This is a huge wtf
But I find it hard to get mad at it. I don’t know if if it is because I trust Alden or whatnot, but I’m seriously taking a wait and see approach.
As in I will wait before I bash this hire. Call me crazy.
"And a boring game for boring people. Did you ever watch golf on television? It's like watching flies FUCK. Think of the intellect it must take to draw pleasure from this activity: hitting a ball with a crooked stick and then WALKING AFTER IT" -George Carlin
I should be having a wait-and-see approach.
And I’m sure I’m going to wake up tomorrow and feel a lot less like hurling myself off of my balcony.
But right now, I find almost zero redeeming qualities about this hire.
"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010
The Best Case scenario is we become Baylor!
hooray?
"I'm a genius, but I'm a misunderstood genius."
"What's misunderstood about you?"
"Nobody thinks I'm a genius."
by Transmogrified Tiger on Apr 3, 2011 11:45 PM CDT up reply actions
I think I'll do the opposite
wake up tomorrow and feel even more like walking in front of the L on my way downtown
Some people say "hate" is a strong word. If you're talking about kansas, it's not strong enough.
recruiting abilities?
Miami is like the shittiest situation that a BCS-level basketball team can be in.
"And a boring game for boring people. Did you ever watch golf on television? It's like watching flies FUCK. Think of the intellect it must take to draw pleasure from this activity: hitting a ball with a crooked stick and then WALKING AFTER IT" -George Carlin
by stlcardsfan4 on Apr 3, 2011 11:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Every time a new non-personal Twitter acct
Reposts the “official” hiring…
I throw up in my mouth a little.
Bet me!
You've been puking a lot.
Innovators look at the same thing as everyone else, yet see something different.
by K. Scott Bailey on Apr 4, 2011 1:25 AM CDT up reply actions
Pat Forde wouldn't even hire him with monopoly money.
Annoying You Since 1986
hey it's not on the official site yet...
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by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 3, 2011 11:43 PM CDT reply actions
Don't you enjoy squabbling with pompous Duke fans?
"And a boring game for boring people. Did you ever watch golf on television? It's like watching flies FUCK. Think of the intellect it must take to draw pleasure from this activity: hitting a ball with a crooked stick and then WALKING AFTER IT" -George Carlin
by stlcardsfan4 on Apr 3, 2011 11:59 PM CDT up reply actions
it's soooooooooooo easy to root for duke.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 4, 2011 12:03 AM CDT up reply actions
I like how he is coming up with "rational" explanations for why he roots for Duke
When the answer is obviously because they are guaranteed Tournament team and potential National Champion about every year (although lately they have gotten Bucknelled more than usual)
"And a boring game for boring people. Did you ever watch golf on television? It's like watching flies FUCK. Think of the intellect it must take to draw pleasure from this activity: hitting a ball with a crooked stick and then WALKING AFTER IT" -George Carlin
by stlcardsfan4 on Apr 4, 2011 12:08 AM CDT up reply actions
your friend is kind of idiot. sorry.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 4, 2011 12:08 AM CDT up reply actions
none taken at all
in full agreement actually
"And a boring game for boring people. Did you ever watch golf on television? It's like watching flies FUCK. Think of the intellect it must take to draw pleasure from this activity: hitting a ball with a crooked stick and then WALKING AFTER IT" -George Carlin
by stlcardsfan4 on Apr 4, 2011 12:10 AM CDT up reply actions
it takes a lot to get RMN and tigerboard to have the same reaction
well done, Mike Alden. well done.
Weather channel says 50 mph storm
blowing into CoMO but it sounds more like sucking sound coming from Mizzou Arena.
by apr67d on Apr 3, 2011 11:44 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Even mother nature is upset about this hire
wait till you see the shitstorm she’s about to unleash on Columbia.
okay well that actually is helping a bit
suddenly feel better about all of this..
Smokescreen part two?
Leak word of an imminent hiring in order to force the real target’s hand?
"Alcohol may be man's worst enemy, but the bible says love your enemy." --Frank Sinatra
by Other Side of the Pillow on Apr 3, 2011 11:45 PM CDT up reply actions
From Entertainment and Sports Programming Network
Haith and Missouri athletic director Mike Alden met in Houston on Saturday, just days after Alden was turned down by Purdue coach Matt Painter.
Haith and Alden have discussed a multiyear contract in the 6-year range. Missouri officials are scheduled to meet late Monday night to confirm terms of the contract.
oh god.
if it’s for anything more than $6 million i’ll commit suicide.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 3, 2011 11:47 PM CDT up reply actions
He made 900k a year at Miami..
I assure you we are paying him over a mil. I would guess 1.5 plus incentives.
Annoying You Since 1986
mizzou job > miami job
i’m hoping it didn’t take much of a raise.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 3, 2011 11:48 PM CDT up reply actions
mizzou job>no job
which is where he was heading.
he should take the same pay or less, plus incentives, but we probably offered $3M.
by nickpapagiorgio on Apr 4, 2011 12:10 AM CDT up reply actions
We don't care where he was heading
If you don't have time to do it right, when will you have time to do it over?
John Wooden
by lost..in the woods on Apr 4, 2011 12:14 AM CDT up reply actions
No.
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Twitter | Gas House Graphs
69
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by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 3, 2011 11:48 PM CDT up reply actions
/dumb joke
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by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 3, 2011 11:48 PM CDT up reply actions
it was a dumb joke made worse when you explained it was a joke
"And a boring game for boring people. Did you ever watch golf on television? It's like watching flies FUCK. Think of the intellect it must take to draw pleasure from this activity: hitting a ball with a crooked stick and then WALKING AFTER IT" -George Carlin
by stlcardsfan4 on Apr 3, 2011 11:50 PM CDT up reply actions
What I would give to see Bill's reaction to what has happened since he went to bed...
"I'm a genius, but I'm a misunderstood genius."
"What's misunderstood about you?"
"Nobody thinks I'm a genius."
by Transmogrified Tiger on Apr 3, 2011 11:48 PM CDT reply actions
Someone wake him!
A crisis has befallen Tiger Nation.
The president gets woken up for big stuff right?
Text I just sent RPT:
“Hey, just FYI, the Internet is engulfed in flames.”
"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010
by ghtd36 on Apr 3, 2011 11:49 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
that was supposed to be a reply to "If Painter was a 10" above
in which case it would have been closer to vaguely clever.
by Professor Chaos on Apr 3, 2011 11:49 PM CDT up reply actions
The only way I can support this hire is if every single name on the following list was offered and turned down the job.
Chris Mack, Shacka Smart, Josh Pastner, Brad Stevens, Gregg Marshall, Chris Mooney, Scott Sutton, Larry Drew, Ben Jacobsen, Anthony Grant, 300 other D-1 Basketball coaches, Bill C, Mrs Bill C, The Beef, Tailgate Queen, Baby Beef, Tepper, Atchison,
Annoying You Since 1986
I see.
So you’d rather have Haith than me.
"I was a victim of a series of accidents, as are we all."
twitter @sirensofsilence
by sirensofsilence on Apr 3, 2011 11:49 PM CDT up reply actions
I wasn't done listing. See the last comma...
You were on there but I gave up. Tried to hit cancel, but clicked post instead.
Annoying You Since 1986
In that order, too.
The road to Mizzou Arena goes through Baby Beef.
"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010
Frank Haith has already contacted the Missouri Players.
This is happening.
Annoying You Since 1986
I am a Royals fan
a ROYALS fan for christsakes, and I will have zero patience with this hire.
It can always get worse
Buddy Bell
If you’re a Royals fan. This is called Tuesday.
Dr. Ausgiano schools me in the classroom and on the field of battle
by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Apr 4, 2011 1:02 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
So...are Bill and Ross asleep?
Beerleaguer -- White Sox: Something about a greased tee, a behind, and a pair of pliers
I want to live in a world
where i don’t know that Frank Haith is our coach for 8 more hours.
by rg643 on Apr 3, 2011 11:53 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Til the BoC actually approve everything...
TECHNICALLY… he’s not. Yet. (Threw up in my mouth a little, again)
Bet me!
by TigerBartender on Apr 3, 2011 11:54 PM CDT up reply actions
We have all seen and heard things
that cannot be unseen and unheard.
Cue the sad clown.
.
"Alcohol may be man's worst enemy, but the bible says love your enemy." --Frank Sinatra
by Other Side of the Pillow on Apr 3, 2011 11:58 PM CDT up reply actions
I texted Ross with no reply.
He’s probably pressing a revolver against his temple, not necessarily to pull the trigger but just to feel the cool steel against his skin and know that he could if he wanted to.
Or, he’s asleep.
"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010
by ghtd36 on Apr 3, 2011 11:53 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Damn him for being able to sleep through this!
"I was a victim of a series of accidents, as are we all."
twitter @sirensofsilence
by sirensofsilence on Apr 3, 2011 11:54 PM CDT up reply actions
If this was
Choose-your-own-Adventure, I would choose option A
"Alcohol may be man's worst enemy, but the bible says love your enemy." --Frank Sinatra
by Other Side of the Pillow on Apr 3, 2011 11:55 PM CDT up reply actions
I would be flipping back to the previous page
telling myself “I didn’t really pick that one, my finger never left the page!”
by shaffe on Apr 3, 2011 11:55 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
THEM'S THE RULES.
"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010
Ffffffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu-------
Well… This isn’t quite what I expected…
We can't let this happen...
If you don't have time to do it right, when will you have time to do it over?
John Wooden
by lost..in the woods on Apr 3, 2011 11:56 PM CDT reply actions
I imagine Mizzou fans everywhere, who happened to be in bed already, awoke with a startle
and then peacefully rolled back to sleep thinking “why the hell did that just happen?”
they sensed a disturbance in the force
something terrible just happened.
as if a million voices cried out and were suddenly silenced.
I always thought that Mizzou fans were the Cub fans of college sports, but it turns out that we’re the Alderan fans.
by Professor Chaos on Apr 4, 2011 12:00 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
You know youve made a bad hire when I'm praying that this is fake...
And we are actually hiring Buzz Williams or Doc Sadler.
Annoying You Since 1986
.
"Alcohol may be man's worst enemy, but the bible says love your enemy." --Frank Sinatra
by Other Side of the Pillow on Apr 3, 2011 11:57 PM CDT reply actions
Somebody please forward this thread to the BoC
This news inspired a 100% impromptu, 300+ comment, thread at 11:00 at night on a Sunday. And it hasn’t been a positive one.
So...maybe this is all an elaborate ploy by Alden.
To make the mid-major coach he’s actually hiring look really spectacular.
"I was a victim of a series of accidents, as are we all."
twitter @sirensofsilence
by sirensofsilence on Apr 3, 2011 11:58 PM CDT reply actions
I will go on record.
If Frank Haith takes Mizzou back to the Sweet Sixteen in the next five years, I will rescind every bad thing I said about him tonight and write a hand-written apology to Mike Alden.
"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010
by ghtd36 on Apr 3, 2011 11:59 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
If Frank Haith hasn't been fired in five years...
I will do the same.
Annoying You Since 1986
But somethign tells me that neither Alden nor Haith will be here in 5 years.
Annoying You Since 1986
Hey...
If you go by the Mayan Calandar, we’ll all be here less than two years anyway…
There is a God and I'm not it, after that EVERYTHING is subjective. Be careful for what you wish for, you just might GET IT!
It all makes sense.
This hire must have been made for the same reason the Phillies signed Ryan Howard to that insane contract. It won’t matter after 2012!
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
I'm not sure he gets 5 years
He’s going to have to do it in 3 or he’ll be canned. And by he’ll be canned I mean Alden will be canned and Haith with him.
Alden has staked his job on this hire.
This actually makes me somewhat optimistic
He must have seen SOMETHING in Haith. And, to be honest, are we sure this is worse than Sutton/Jacobson/Marshall? With those guys, we don’t know if we’ll ever get players.
Honestly, anything after the Painter debacle would have seemed like a letdown. This doesn’t strike me as as much of a letdown as some other hires would.
Try not to take me too seriously
by calim on Apr 4, 2011 12:49 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Those guys were guaranteed mediocrity… at least with this guy there’s an outside chance at an X factor.
WHAT IF…. WHAT IF his ability to pull the big recruit is layered on a new ability to get a full roster of players that don’t suck, and that this improves his ability to do sensible in-game coaching….
Ok it’s reaching for straws, but maybe the alternative was a world without straws??
Hiring the Tiny Giraffe?
Who’s with me?
Bet me!
by TigerBartender on Apr 4, 2011 12:00 AM CDT reply actions 2 recs
IN.
#TinyGiraffeForMizzou
"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010
by ghtd36 on Apr 4, 2011 12:00 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
The hashtag exists...
Search and RT!!!!
Bet me!
by TigerBartender on Apr 4, 2011 12:07 AM CDT up reply actions
Done
and done!
"I was a victim of a series of accidents, as are we all."
twitter @sirensofsilence
by sirensofsilence on Apr 4, 2011 12:09 AM CDT up reply actions
He may cost too much
He seems to have a pretty sweet gig with the Russian Billionaire
Some people say "hate" is a strong word. If you're talking about kansas, it's not strong enough.
Full Pledged Support
#TinyGiraffeForMizzou
If you don't have time to do it right, when will you have time to do it over?
John Wooden
by lost..in the woods on Apr 4, 2011 12:02 AM CDT up reply actions
So I was hoping for goodness in this article...
Coach K said something nice about Haith… but the underlying circumstance is … just not good. I tried.
"Alcohol may be man's worst enemy, but the bible says love your enemy." --Frank Sinatra
by Other Side of the Pillow on Apr 4, 2011 12:00 AM CDT reply actions
And if Jalen Rose is right
Duke and Coach K don’t hand out compliments to African Americans very often/easily.
Positive thinking about Haith, it’ll take some work, but we’ll get there…eventually…hopefully.
goddamnit I wish Rose and Stephen A. Smith would for once not play the race card
Especially in a situation like this where it makes absolutely no sense.
"And a boring game for boring people. Did you ever watch golf on television? It's like watching flies FUCK. Think of the intellect it must take to draw pleasure from this activity: hitting a ball with a crooked stick and then WALKING AFTER IT" -George Carlin
by stlcardsfan4 on Apr 4, 2011 12:09 AM CDT up reply actions
I guess that guy knows what he’s talking about, and was under no obligation to say any of those nice things…
and if (pulling together the OPTIMISM!!1) there’s a tendency to pay too much attention to wins and losses in how we judge coaches, and heavily underweight how stacked the deck was, or the role luck plays in getting those records, then maybe we’re finding the undervalued asset here… Yeah…. this was a move of genius arbitrage…. yeah….. yeeeah. YES.
yeah
Reminds me of Gene Chizik hiring at Auburn...
I would imagine this is how Auburn fans felt when they hired Gene Chizik.
Somehow I don’t think the results will be the same…
There should be more racism with this hire
That’d be fun
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No Auburn paid him more
If you don't have time to do it right, when will you have time to do it over?
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by lost..in the woods on Apr 4, 2011 12:03 AM CDT up reply actions
You're the second person who's made that claim.
The difference is that Chizik had a track record of success as a coordinator, while there’s no good comparison to that for college basketball.
Chizik and Haith are apples and oranges, if you ask me.
"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010
Actually, if there's anything to Haith it is his time as an assistant
He’s been on some pretty good staffs.
Associate HC and Assistant HC at Texas (lead recruiter on Aldridge and TJ Ford I think)
Assistant at Wake and Penn State
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
we once had another coach who was from a pretty good staff...
and that didn’t turn out so great.
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by MountainManMike on Apr 4, 2011 1:28 AM CDT up reply actions
Clearly this is an attempt to get a good recruiter
From his bio: Haith has recruited six McDonald’s All-Americans including Rodney Rodgers (1990) to Wake Forest, Jerald Brown (1995) to Texas A&M and Brad Buckman (2002), LaMarcus Aldridge (2004), Daniel Gibson (2004) and Michael Williams (2004) to Texas.
With a total of nine scholarships to give this spring and next fall, let’s hope he can do what he supposedly does best.
To be fair, it was other coaches who wasted those guys
And when 2/3 of your McD’s All Americans get to play for Rick Barnes….
Throwing gasoline on the fire..
Alden elected not to wait for a possible chance to talk to Shaka Smart. Mizzou sources tell me that Alden had no interest in bidding against NC State for Smart’s services. A Big 10 head coach told me tonight Alden’s search was hindered by a perception that he was lowballing candidates.
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How does this work
when our offer to Painter was confirmed to be a higher compensation than what he took to stay at Purdue?
"Alcohol may be man's worst enemy, but the bible says love your enemy." --Frank Sinatra
by Other Side of the Pillow on Apr 4, 2011 12:04 AM CDT up reply actions
It doesn't make sense
We offered two coaches $2 million or more. Then got cheap? Not buying it.
Yeah I'm not sure I buy the lowballing thing
But to not even wait a couple of friggen days to talk with Smart or Stevens.
That is just a godawful move, Alden.
I believe he meant candidates after Painter.
At least we know he wasnt the #2 candidate.
Annoying You Since 1986
Yeah...
I’m with shaffe on this— Doesn’t make sense that we suddenly go cheap after making a strong play to start out… especially in order to make a potential job-ending hire on Alden’s part…
"Alcohol may be man's worst enemy, but the bible says love your enemy." --Frank Sinatra
by Other Side of the Pillow on Apr 4, 2011 12:08 AM CDT up reply actions
Brought to you by Sports By Brooks
aka “Mizzou has Shaka Smart at the top of it’s list”
aka “Mizzou has requested permission to talk to Shaka Smart”
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"What's misunderstood about you?"
"Nobody thinks I'm a genius."
by Transmogrified Tiger on Apr 4, 2011 12:11 AM CDT up reply actions
This is almost nice about Haith
@tsnmike Michael DeCourcy
Miami — basketball wasteland. Do solid work there building a respectable program, don’t expect credit. Good luck to Frank Haith successor!
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by Other Side of the Pillow on Apr 4, 2011 12:02 AM CDT reply actions
Dear everyone,
Have a drink! It helps. It’s actually kind of funny now. Also, I think I’ll be able to sleep through the dread.
"I was a victim of a series of accidents, as are we all."
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by sirensofsilence on Apr 4, 2011 12:03 AM CDT reply actions
Everything can be somewhat funny after a few drinks
If you don't have time to do it right, when will you have time to do it over?
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by lost..in the woods on Apr 4, 2011 12:04 AM CDT up reply actions
It's the best Star Trek captain!
"I was a victim of a series of accidents, as are we all."
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by sirensofsilence on Apr 4, 2011 12:05 AM CDT up reply actions
So within a week an entire fanbase has gone from
OH S***!!!!
to
Oh….S***!
by Team on Apr 4, 2011 12:06 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Eff you H&R. We are the miserablest
Four days ago we almost convinced Matt Painter to come here. Now we are hiring Frank Haith. Frank effing Haith.
by apr67d on Apr 4, 2011 12:08 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
Let us try to make light of the situation
Hiring Frank Haith is akin to…
Hiring a blind guy to paint your house
Getting into a van for the free candy
Investing all of your money with Bernie Madoff
Let's not talk about Paint and large investments in the same Haiku...
…that ended badly for us last time.
all in good fun of course
but it was not that bad of a hire.
"And a boring game for boring people. Did you ever watch golf on television? It's like watching flies FUCK. Think of the intellect it must take to draw pleasure from this activity: hitting a ball with a crooked stick and then WALKING AFTER IT" -George Carlin
by stlcardsfan4 on Apr 4, 2011 12:13 AM CDT up reply actions
OK. I'm going to bed.
A couple rules:
-Don’t set anything on fire. I’M LOOKING IN YOUR DIRECTION, SIRENSOFSILENCE.
-Try to calm down a bit.
-Pray that Bill can talk us down tomorrow morning.
We’ll make it through this together, folks. I love you very much.
"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010
WAIT, WHAT?
I’VE NEVER SET ANYTHING ON FIRE AT RMN BEFORE, I SWEAR!
Nighty night!
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by sirensofsilence on Apr 4, 2011 12:11 AM CDT up reply actions
Don't even think Bill's optimism can save this
38% conference winning %. <200 in tempo. Barf.
by apr67d on Apr 4, 2011 12:15 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
IF Bill comes back
If you don't have time to do it right, when will you have time to do it over?
John Wooden
by lost..in the woods on Apr 4, 2011 12:16 AM CDT up reply actions
headline from the Miami board:
Frank Haith to Missouri (no, really)
In other words
Even they think it was a stupid move for us
If you don't have time to do it right, when will you have time to do it over?
John Wooden
by lost..in the woods on Apr 4, 2011 12:17 AM CDT up reply actions
FWIW, I'm sure Auburn fans were saying the same thing when they hired Gene Chizik.
who went 5-19 at Iowa State (and only won 2 conference games in two years).
Two years later…
You all know the rest.
I’m willing to give him a shot. You all should too.
"Safety!! Ballgame!! BINGO!!!" - Mike Kelly
Mizzou fans are going to get really sick of this comparison
‘Cause that’s the third time that’s been here in an hour, and I’ve seen it on Twitter as well.
I'm actually calm towards this
and these Gene Chizik comparisons are starting to piss me off so let’s stop please. Wonder what it is doing to the people who passionately hate this move.
"And a boring game for boring people. Did you ever watch golf on television? It's like watching flies FUCK. Think of the intellect it must take to draw pleasure from this activity: hitting a ball with a crooked stick and then WALKING AFTER IT" -George Carlin
by stlcardsfan4 on Apr 4, 2011 12:14 AM CDT up reply actions
He's a crappy coach, that's why
1 NCAA tournament in 7 years, and that was with Jack McClinton doing his best Pistol Pete impression. Seems prone to recruiting troublemakers and teams constantly underachieve. So, basically Quin 2.0 with less winning. Sound like what we want? Sure as f&@! doesn’t to me.
by u2nspenserfan on Apr 4, 2011 12:23 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Oops
Sorry I read your post wrong. Obviously I’m one of those. :-)
by u2nspenserfan on Apr 4, 2011 12:25 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
WTF? How is he listed on Wiki already as MU's head coach?
Silly internets.
Earlier tonight this was under his description...
“The NIT melts in fear at the name of Haith.”
but has since been stricken from his page.
I would rather...
Wait for the zombie apocalypse and hire Zombie John Wooden.
Some people say "hate" is a strong word. If you're talking about kansas, it's not strong enough.
Wow. Amazing detective work.
Registered by law student at SLU.
Going to bed,
With this tidbit from Kim English’s Twitter:
Wow. Awfully Disappointed in the response that some Mizzou fans are giving.
Let’s all sleep on this and see how we feel down the road.
we're all disappointed kimmie
there’s a reason
They guys not a winner
If you don't have time to do it right, when will you have time to do it over?
John Wooden
by lost..in the woods on Apr 4, 2011 12:20 AM CDT up reply actions
Referring to Haith of course
If you don't have time to do it right, when will you have time to do it over?
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by lost..in the woods on Apr 4, 2011 12:20 AM CDT up reply actions
Katz says
6 years
$1.8 per
Some people say "hate" is a strong word. If you're talking about kansas, it's not strong enough.
LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO
If you don't have time to do it right, when will you have time to do it over?
John Wooden
by lost..in the woods on Apr 4, 2011 12:23 AM CDT up reply actions
nevermind
my asshole friend who is a Miami fan just said he made that up to piss me off even more
Some people say "hate" is a strong word. If you're talking about kansas, it's not strong enough.
responding to this
so that people pressing “z” will see your comment
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I know it's not my money
but holy hell is $1.8 million a bad bad move.
Holy Crap
Seriously, there is justifiable reason for the curators to refuse that.
see my above post
My buddy sent me a text that said, turn on espn. When i said I missed it, what’d they say, he said Andy Katz was just on and said that. Then he said he was trying to piss me off.
Some people say "hate" is a strong word. If you're talking about kansas, it's not strong enough.
I know it's still early in the news cycle
but is anything reputable saying anything about how Mizzou and Haith ended up together? Where’s the connection that led to this? I can’t imagine Haith was anywhere near the top of Alden’s list…but how far down was he?
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Semi-Possibly-Decent Reward?
If you don't have time to do it right, when will you have time to do it over?
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by lost..in the woods on Apr 4, 2011 12:23 AM CDT reply actions
i'm hopeful that sub-.500 in a terrible destination for college bball
in a very difficult conference (traditionally) can equate to better than Mizzou’s last season under Anderson.
by nickpapagiorgio on Apr 4, 2011 12:25 AM CDT up reply actions
Frank Haith
We hope he can be as good or better as one of Anderson’s worst?
le sigh
i know, it's not much
but it’s better than no hope at all.
by nickpapagiorgio on Apr 4, 2011 12:35 AM CDT up reply actions
im not convinced that the ACC is better than the BIG XII (-2)
If you don't have time to do it right, when will you have time to do it over?
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by lost..in the woods on Apr 4, 2011 12:27 AM CDT up reply actions
if you look at the banner pic, then scroll down really fast
it looks like Haith is taking a very satisfying dump on RMN posters.
by nickpapagiorgio on Apr 4, 2011 12:23 AM CDT reply actions
gabe, just wow.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 4, 2011 12:23 AM CDT reply actions
between that and this, I have neglected my actual homework
which would be fine except it is due first thing tomorrow so I’m screwed
"And a boring game for boring people. Did you ever watch golf on television? It's like watching flies FUCK. Think of the intellect it must take to draw pleasure from this activity: hitting a ball with a crooked stick and then WALKING AFTER IT" -George Carlin
by stlcardsfan4 on Apr 4, 2011 12:26 AM CDT up reply actions
how old is he?
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by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 4, 2011 12:27 AM CDT up reply actions
Sadly my age
"And a boring game for boring people. Did you ever watch golf on television? It's like watching flies FUCK. Think of the intellect it must take to draw pleasure from this activity: hitting a ball with a crooked stick and then WALKING AFTER IT" -George Carlin
by stlcardsfan4 on Apr 4, 2011 12:33 AM CDT up reply actions
about 15% as smart.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 4, 2011 12:35 AM CDT up reply actions
Yeah he doesn't know shit about professional sports
"And a boring game for boring people. Did you ever watch golf on television? It's like watching flies FUCK. Think of the intellect it must take to draw pleasure from this activity: hitting a ball with a crooked stick and then WALKING AFTER IT" -George Carlin
by stlcardsfan4 on Apr 4, 2011 12:39 AM CDT up reply actions
yet feels the need to call me out on how i don't know anything.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 4, 2011 12:39 AM CDT up reply actions
honestly how is liking your hometown team not a good reason?
I’m struggling to figure out his logic
"And a boring game for boring people. Did you ever watch golf on television? It's like watching flies FUCK. Think of the intellect it must take to draw pleasure from this activity: hitting a ball with a crooked stick and then WALKING AFTER IT" -George Carlin
by stlcardsfan4 on Apr 4, 2011 12:42 AM CDT up reply actions
If you guys want a shitstorm, check out my note about vice presidents
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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he's a douche?
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by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 4, 2011 12:44 AM CDT up reply actions
touche
also mysterui are you following the convo we are referring to?
"And a boring game for boring people. Did you ever watch golf on television? It's like watching flies FUCK. Think of the intellect it must take to draw pleasure from this activity: hitting a ball with a crooked stick and then WALKING AFTER IT" -George Carlin
by stlcardsfan4 on Apr 4, 2011 12:46 AM CDT up reply actions
Yes
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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Essentially the issue is that 99% of 17-18 year olds are idiots
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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YAY FOR BEING ONE!
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by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 4, 2011 12:48 AM CDT up reply actions
I'd say I belong in that category
except I haven’t really done any stupid shit (like getting drunk…). Of course many people think there’s something wrong with me for that very reason.
Now last year…
"And a boring game for boring people. Did you ever watch golf on television? It's like watching flies FUCK. Think of the intellect it must take to draw pleasure from this activity: hitting a ball with a crooked stick and then WALKING AFTER IT" -George Carlin
by stlcardsfan4 on Apr 4, 2011 12:50 AM CDT up reply actions
I would say you are not an idiot
Though drinking has nothing to do with it
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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drinking is for squares.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 4, 2011 1:00 AM CDT up reply actions
Hey who wha?
This convo had lost me to start with, but now even more so.
I could care less whether you choose to imbibe or not. It’s a matter of supreme indifference…. but tonight of all nights is not the one to be bashing drinking. Some of us are going to need a fair bit of of it right now.
hah!
i was completely joking.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 4, 2011 1:19 AM CDT up reply actions
Yeah I agree
Plus next year there is no way I could say that same thing.
"And a boring game for boring people. Did you ever watch golf on television? It's like watching flies FUCK. Think of the intellect it must take to draw pleasure from this activity: hitting a ball with a crooked stick and then WALKING AFTER IT" -George Carlin
aw, little gabe is going to get drunky in columbia.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 4, 2011 1:04 AM CDT up reply actions
hey michael pineda worth fantasy pickup?
Greinke and Peavy are on DL and I need to quick replacement
"And a boring game for boring people. Did you ever watch golf on television? It's like watching flies FUCK. Think of the intellect it must take to draw pleasure from this activity: hitting a ball with a crooked stick and then WALKING AFTER IT" -George Carlin
Absolutely
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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sweet
adding him immediately
"And a boring game for boring people. Did you ever watch golf on television? It's like watching flies FUCK. Think of the intellect it must take to draw pleasure from this activity: hitting a ball with a crooked stick and then WALKING AFTER IT" -George Carlin
oh this is getting epic.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 4, 2011 12:53 AM CDT up reply actions
that would be me
"And a boring game for boring people. Did you ever watch golf on television? It's like watching flies FUCK. Think of the intellect it must take to draw pleasure from this activity: hitting a ball with a crooked stick and then WALKING AFTER IT" -George Carlin
by stlcardsfan4 on Apr 4, 2011 12:58 AM CDT up reply actions
it got more epic after i posted that.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 4, 2011 12:59 AM CDT up reply actions
i don't think he has a response to my rebecca black comment
"And a boring game for boring people. Did you ever watch golf on television? It's like watching flies FUCK. Think of the intellect it must take to draw pleasure from this activity: hitting a ball with a crooked stick and then WALKING AFTER IT" -George Carlin
i love idiots.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 4, 2011 1:04 AM CDT up reply actions
The best revenge is success
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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Same :(
If you don't have time to do it right, when will you have time to do it over?
John Wooden
by lost..in the woods on Apr 4, 2011 12:28 AM CDT up reply actions
I'd put in $20 to. . .
. . . help buy out Cuonzo Martin’s Tennesse contract. Is that impossible? I mean, I know it’s like throwing a $1 million or somwthing away, but he really seems like the best choice to me. #wishfulthinking
i never thought Martin was that great of a hire
but i didn’t have Haith in mind as an alternative.
by nickpapagiorgio on Apr 4, 2011 12:36 AM CDT up reply actions
I liked his ties to St. Louis.
And I don’t think anyone had Haith in mind as a alternative. One of the articles I read recently called for the University of Miami to fire Haith . . . but we are probably giving him a big raise. Guess we don’t have a choice but to give this guy a chance.
Or...not let him in the stadium
If you don't have time to do it right, when will you have time to do it over?
John Wooden
by lost..in the woods on Apr 4, 2011 12:49 AM CDT up reply actions
Every letter is capitalized in MIZZOU
If you don't have time to do it right, when will you have time to do it over?
John Wooden
by lost..in the woods on Apr 4, 2011 12:31 AM CDT up reply actions
good answer...
But seriously :)
Bet me!
by TigerBartender on Apr 4, 2011 12:32 AM CDT up reply actions
can't spell MIZZO
without IZZO…
/graspingatstraws
by nycbirdo on Apr 4, 2011 4:10 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Now is the time to get in on basketball season tickets?
Might be able to get some pretty choice seats by the time the Haith Era plays itself out.
Oh Hi fellow internet commenters what's going....
WHAT THE _?
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by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Apr 4, 2011 12:41 AM CDT reply actions
So my question for Haith
since you base your teams on size and ball control, WHAT IN THE WORLD are you going to do at Missouri?
If you don't have time to do it right, when will you have time to do it over?
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by lost..in the woods on Apr 4, 2011 12:42 AM CDT reply actions
the first year or two might be painful actually. his style (or at least he one he ran at miami) could not be more different than andersons. the best news is that you guys have lots of scholarships open.
by rayrayrayrayrayrayrayray on Apr 4, 2011 12:44 AM CDT up reply actions
but then again
the first few seasons of anderson were pretty pitiful iirc.
by rayrayrayrayrayrayrayray on Apr 4, 2011 12:46 AM CDT up reply actions
I just got done planting a vineyard and it hurts....
both to think and to type. I will wait until morning to comment further on this.
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by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Apr 4, 2011 12:43 AM CDT reply actions
Taking a stab at saying something nice
This season, Miami did beat Ole Miss, West Virginia, Oral Roberts (by 13 on a neutral floor), Boston College (twice), Maryland and Missouri State in the NIT.
Resume bashing.
Go ahead with the losses, too.
Fair and balanced.
Bet me!
by TigerBartender on Apr 4, 2011 12:48 AM CDT up reply actions
Tiger I just got a bottle of scotch
Is this the time to open it, or should I wait ?
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by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Apr 4, 2011 12:52 AM CDT up reply actions
Only if you're going to enjoy it.
I doubt I would, atm.
Bet me!
by TigerBartender on Apr 4, 2011 12:54 AM CDT up reply actions
dang
Harder and harder choices as the world goes
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by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Apr 4, 2011 12:55 AM CDT up reply actions
Life doesn't get any easier as a "grown-up"
Bet me!
by TigerBartender on Apr 4, 2011 12:57 AM CDT up reply actions
I guess not
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by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Apr 4, 2011 12:58 AM CDT up reply actions
They beat Virginia
in Overtime
Twice!
If you don't have time to do it right, when will you have time to do it over?
John Wooden
by lost..in the woods on Apr 4, 2011 12:55 AM CDT up reply actions
all right, I'm off to bed
Night everyone. I expect you all to have this fixed by morning.
/BillC’d
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Kick To The 'Nads
This is an awful hire. He has shown NOTHING! He’s not that young. From all I’ve heard, he’s a terrible game coach. He’s pretty much the opposite end of the spectrum from Matt Painter. His teams will be a pain to watch. Alden went from being a straight boss to straight bitch in a week’s time. This is seriously fucked up! Why us? Now we’re most likely stuck with a piece of shit coach. Matter of fact, I’d rather have a piece of shit as coach than Frank Haith. Like, literally fragmented feces opposed to Coach Haith. Unless there is a plan. Have this supposed ace recruited stock up on the beasts with all those open schollies. Have him suck for a year or two. Hire new actual coach to coach guys up and win. Farfetched? Yes. Unlikely? You betcha! Sensible? More so than hiring Frank Haith and giving him a raise. He makes Kim Anderson look like a good hire. Ugh!
by CoeMoe on Apr 4, 2011 12:54 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Not sure if this is mentioned
But he has two 4 stars committed on Rivals for 2012. Although one is from FL and one from GA (both nearby)
He has a lot of interesting recruiting bases (NY, NC, FL) from what I can tell.
Wait. So this is serious?
Like not a two day delay on April fools?
Ok.
Like a bigfoot with Boselys’ hair restoration….this might get hairy.
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by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Apr 4, 2011 1:00 AM CDT reply actions
I know I'm in the minority here, especially with emotions running high
But I’m OK with this. (Hear me out)
The guy is, at best, a master recruiter and, at worst, a capable one. This despite being at a mediocre basketball school that gets pummeled every year by the big dogs of the ACC. He even has a couple of big-time commits that MarioVanPeeples just mentioned that very well could be coming with him.
At Mizzou, he might be an even better recruiter. When was the last time we got a McD All-American? Keyon Dooling? That was 12 years ago. If we want to compete with Kansas and Texas year in and year out, it’s going to take players. We don’t know that Ben Jacobson or Gregg Marshall or Wojcik would be able to do that.
Also, as mentioned above, Alden is staking his reputation and quite possibly his job on this hire. Does he strike you as the kind of guy who panics? Me neither. He thought about this and decided that it’s what’s best for the program, on an academic, athletic and commitment basis. Frank Haith is an Elon grad. If he has success at Mizzou, he’s not going anywhere else soon or possibly ever.
I know this is completely out of left field and we like to be prepared for our news, but honestly, compared to the possible alternatives (perhaps Shaka included, and I would like to hear Alden’s explanation for not even talking to him), Haith is more of a sure thing. Based on what we know about recruiting, he might have a higher ceiling, too.
Thanks for listening. Breathe, drink, get some sleep, give it half a freakin chance. Bill C will talk us down in the morning, but I hope this is at least a start.
Try not to take me too seriously
by calim on Apr 4, 2011 1:05 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
I am with you. It is time for calm.
But it was not me who knows anything about his commits. :)
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by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Apr 4, 2011 1:07 AM CDT up reply actions
I think we are all going to give him a chance
And we’d all be tickled pink if he did work out. But nobody can find a reason right now to think that Haith is going to get it done at Missouri.
As a devil’s advocate to the Alden staking his rep thing, he’ll have at least two more years of making fat AD money to put away for retirement. If I’m him I’m putting away a little extra every month into my 401(k).
I think his job is most definitely on the line
If you don't have time to do it right, when will you have time to do it over?
John Wooden
by lost..in the woods on Apr 4, 2011 1:14 AM CDT up reply actions
Sorry, but no
He has a track record of abject failure at Miami, both on and off the basketball court. Players in legal trouble and making the NCAAs once in 7 years is just not acceptable. Could he be a good coach? Sure, he could. For now, he has shown himself to be mediocre verging on bad. On paper, he is Quin Snyder with less wins. Sorry for not being thrilled with that. Of course I love Mizzou and of course when basketball season starts I’ll tune in and root for Denmon and the guys… But unless he wins immediately, I will still consider this a bad hire.
by u2nspenserfan on Apr 4, 2011 1:29 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
The Snyder comparison is just not a good one. Snyder had significant non-basketball problems that blew things apart.
Yes he did
Hence me saying “on paper”. Gets recruits, doesn’t develop them, doesn’t win, legal trouble around the program… Things like that.
by u2nspenserfan on Apr 4, 2011 1:43 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
This guy has made it a lot more years than Snyder did as a head coach without developing the same off-court issues. So no, I’m not worried about him following Quinn’s route. I have OTHER worries, but those are completely different than the Snyder worries… meaning it’s not a good comparison.
I never said he has the same off-court issues as Quin
Or anything of the sort. I’m saying the career path (assistant to head coach, supposed recruiting phenom who doesnt win or develop players) and results on the court and in terms of trouble players are similar, with Quin actually having won more. So, yes it’s valid to compare the two. Are they exactly the same? Of course not.
by u2nspenserfan on Apr 4, 2011 7:59 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I know.
I just logged in to read some links from yesterday, and I run into this.
Dr. Ausgiano schools me in the classroom and on the field of battle
by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Apr 4, 2011 1:10 AM CDT up reply actions
your sister.
will pay $30 at any point for access to an mlb.tv season long account
by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 4, 2011 1:11 AM CDT up reply actions
Too soon.
(After the Haith hiring)
Bet me!
by TigerBartender on Apr 4, 2011 1:12 AM CDT up reply actions
Is it?
I don’t even know. I’m too confused right now.
(Yes it’s too soon.)
Dr. Ausgiano schools me in the classroom and on the field of battle
by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Apr 4, 2011 1:13 AM CDT up reply actions
No sense pleading for calm tonight
Almost no matter who we hired people were going to be anywhere from mildly displeased to downright disgusted. (For the record, I was a Tim Floyd guy—and I still feel dirty somehow.)
Haith seems to have blown the floor out of the bottom of the scale, taking us from disgusted to projective vomit.
However…
Miami is a wasteland. It’s a mid-major in a power conference. I doubt it’s better than any MVC job because none of those gigs is so actively undermined by football. Haith was a well-regarded assistant who took a crap job, and has been paying his dues.
I’m not happy about the hire, but I also doubt that Alden all of a sudden got a brain aneurysm. What did he see that was compelling? Clearly it was his recruiting; a top 25 rated class (ESPN) according to the website. We know he also got serious players as an assistant under some good coaches at Texas, A&M, and Wake. His rosters at Miami have been top-heavy, and no one wins in the ACC with 1 or 2 players no matter how good they are.
Alden clearly thinks he needs a guy who can hit the bricks and bring in players ASAP, and Haith has as good a record in that regard as any candidate. Obviously, the big question is about what he can do with talent once he gets it. That record is not so good. One thing I’ll say in that regard Mizzou may be in a position to compliment him in a way that Miami would (could) not, and that’s in constructing a staff.
I won’t feel good about this hire until I hear some things from some people I trust, but I at least can see the thinking. As for Haith being a surprise… I’m not at all surprised that the hire ended up being a guy no one was talking about. I was saying that last week.
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
by dcrockett17 on Apr 4, 2011 1:15 AM CDT reply actions 3 recs
closest we've had to perspective GOING THAT SILLY POSITIVE WAY....
Bet me!
by TigerBartender on Apr 4, 2011 1:30 AM CDT up reply actions
As a Hurricane fan...
I just wanted to say I’m sorry to you Mizzou fans.
by Jodeci23 on Apr 4, 2011 1:43 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Wow.
A fan from the school you stole him from just apologized to you guys. Brutal.
Innovators look at the same thing as everyone else, yet see something different.
by K. Scott Bailey on Apr 4, 2011 1:50 AM CDT up reply actions
Oh my God.
Well, at least nobody’s going to ever accuse me of being a bandwagon fan now.
Hmmm
I don’t even know what to say.
Hopefully the limitations at Miami kept him from putting a winning product on the court, but this really isn’t looking good.
I think we'll reconcile it by winning!
-Kim English
Reconcile by winning
Try not to take me too seriously
What an epic year of basketball this turned out to be. Lose top recruit in class to eligibility issues. Lose to ku twice. Lose Mike Anderson. Have yet to secure a single player from one of the few classes where the state of Missouri produced some big time talent. .500 in conference. 1 road win in conference. Get shit on by Matt Painter. Why even bark up that tree, Alden? G’Town game. Bounced from the NCAA’s in the 1st round. Hire Frank Haith. It wasn’t a BAD year necessarily. Can’t really say that when you make the tourney. But man did it go south quick. Here’s to blind luck! And great assistant coaches!
Get shit on by Matt Painter. Why even bark up that tree, Alden?
Ok now you’re just being an ass. Alden nearly reels in a monster fish that nobody thought was even in our league, and is underdone by a last minute burst of homesickness and a (close-enough) matching offer from the guy’s alma mater. That’s not getting shit on, that’s working Pujols to a 3 and 1 before he gets to first on a fielder’s error. You were performing above spec, but were foiled by something that wasn’t your fault. Just give frickin’ over man.
I woke up to see this. I am going back to bed and hoping it all goes away.
I never thought I’d say “worse than Steve Alford” but I just did. Haith, prove me wrong and I will worship at your basketball altar.
"When among evil companions, try to fit in." - Wild Bill Donovan
Maybe I'm just being naive
but the more everyone hates this hire, the more confident I get in it.
We are going to listen to Waylon now so everybody stfu and drink your beer.
Just Brutal
What in the hell Alden. You have completely crushed the hopes and expectations of what seems to be about 90% of your fans. Thanks for nothing.
So this morning, I think I got over the initial shock/disappointment.
I think after reading the reports about Miami being a blackhole for coaches, maybe he just needed a fresh start. Maybe if he finally gets the support of the fans and an athletic department, he can have some success. He’s been hired as our coach. We can’t change that. He’s coming back to the Big 12, where he has experience at Texas. We’ve got to give him our full support so he can be as successful as possible here. He may not have been out first, second, hell probably not even our fifth choice, but he’s our guy.
by TheHamburglar on Apr 4, 2011 5:41 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
The press conference by Alden right after xCMA became a pig,
Mike had the noble words that Mike Anderson helped us get to this level and now we want to get to the next level in looking for a new coach. We all bought in when he seemingly went for the fences with Painter. The idea of being aggressive and still eyeballing those fences was the taste we all had. Haith…… not the kind of fence I was thinking we were eyeballing. I am still looking who is heading for the warm up pens.
by McZou on Apr 4, 2011 6:51 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
It also seems the coach cash snow ball started with the Tiger-pig fight for xCMA
Once the world caught wind of Mizzou’s big offer to keep Anderson and the hogs higher offer to get him, it was a “Wow, that is some money!”. Then, with the world knowing what we were willing to pay, Mizzou took that sum and waved that carrot for Painter. After that failed, the list of coaches that warranted that high of pay was becoming increasingly smaller. To try to bring that offer amount back down to a “standard” level, I wondered when Alden could keep justifying that offer. In the world where info is so easy to get, everybody knows how much Mizzou has to give. How do you tell a new coach, “We need to get to the next level and need a coach that can get us there..<> yes, about what we offered Mike Anderson and Matt Painter….um…. Haith, for you, we were thinking a little less but we still expect longetivity, loyalty and higher success academically and athletically”, since Haith’s stock is currently not worth 2.2 million a year.
by McZou on Apr 4, 2011 7:18 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
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