Saturday Live Thread!
by Bill C. on Apr 30, 2011 7:58 AM CDT
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Apologies, Rock M'ers. I'm falling behind on my writing a bit, thanks mostly to the food-and-allergy buzz/coma I had going on most of the day. (Indian Tacos! 50 MPH wind gusts! Old lady dance routines! It's the Oklahoma City Arts Festival!!) Looks like I'll need another day to polish off the Wall of Excellence, Vote No. 6 ("Personalities/Coaches/Administrators") lineup, though it'll be worth waiting for. In the meantime ... all-day live thread!
9:00 AM CT
EPL: Sunderland vs Fulham (ESPN2)
11:00 AM CT
NFL Draft, Day Three (ESPN)
Possible Mizzou draft candidates: Tim Barnes, Andrew Gachkar, maybe Kevin Rutland?
2:00 PM CT
Softball: No. 8 Mizzou at No. 16 Oklahoma State
(Series Preview, Gametracker for Today)
Baseball: No. 6 Texas A&M at Mizzou
(Series Preview, Walk-Off for Mizzou Last Night, Gametracker for Today)
8:00 PM CT
Softball: Oklahoma-Texas (ESPN)
So what does everybody think of the draft so far? I tend to give the Patriots the benefit of the doubt, but I have little idea what to make of their haul so far. Also: I think the Lions are going to be very good, very soon. (Unless that whole "They're the Lions" thing gets in the way, anyway.)
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by elpjuly4 on Apr 30, 2011 8:11 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
we dropped in some dollars last night on the way in to the NewP/Walkmen show.
The sleeper has awoken. . .awakened. . .he woke up.
by SleepyFloyd7 on Apr 30, 2011 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions
That concert was awesome.
Elke ware zoon, zo blij van harte / Hemels boven ons zijn blauw / Er is een geest zo diep binnen ons / Oud Missouri dit is voor jou / Wanneer de band het Tijger oorlogslied speelt / En wanneer de strijd over is / We zullen stampen, stampen, stampen, rond de kolommen / Met een kreet voor oud Mizzou!
by Dutch Missourian on Apr 30, 2011 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Don't know if this has been discussed
Nebraska got booted from the AAU
by jschooltiger on Apr 30, 2011 8:58 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
Yeah, pity party was last night....I wore a hat.
Black and Gold!
by Spider_Monkey on Apr 30, 2011 9:06 AM CDT up reply actions
As much as I'm enjoying laughing at them AND the Big 10
(and I am REALLY enjoying it. A lot.) This is really, really bad for them. AAU membership kinda feeds on itself, once you’re no longer a member, grant writers tend to stop noticing you when they’re writing checks and high-level grad-students stop applying to you because they want to go to an AAU institution.
Ok, no, still laughing.
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We always knew it was about football
When Illinois ragged on Mizzou’s academics and then voted for Nebraska, it showed what the Big Ten was really interested in.
by Gaknar on Apr 30, 2011 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
That is true to a certain extent.
But I’m really not sure Nebraska gets an invite if this happened a year ago.
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Bullhockey. Football = money = WINNING!
I think I just quoted Charlie Sheen’s violent torpedo of truth. *copyright 2011
Black and Gold!
by Spider_Monkey on Apr 30, 2011 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions
If there's anyone out there who believed that this wasn't 99% about football, they're idiots
But, the Big 10 likes to trumpet their major academic cred, and they did so during the expansion last season. It’s certainly not sad to see this blow up in their face in an embarrassing way. I have no doubt that the CIC will accept Nebraska into its membership, but I am curious what having a non-AAU member will do for the reputation of the CIC.
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I doubt it hurts them much
It’s more like having a zit on prom night.
by Gaknar on Apr 30, 2011 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Bill I finished Veronica Mars...
Any other ideas? Can you keep batting 1000?
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I heartily second the recommendation of Better Off Ted
That show never got the chance it deserved. I rarely saw it advertised, and I think the time slot got jerked around a little bit, if I remember correctly. Hilarious show.
Love Better Off Ted
My weekends at work have been spent watching
30 Rock
Office (UK)
Office (US)
Parks and Recreation
Dr. Who
now Twilight Zone
Oh yeah, and Blackadder and Red Dwarf (I don’t recommend RD unless you’re a HUGE nerd).
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Is it just a show of numbers and excel spreadsheet formulas?
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oy...better you than me based upon my sole exposure :-)
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It's about a slob who gets frozen in stasis while his spaceship suffers a core meltdown
3 million years later, he is woken up to find a ship populated by himself, a hologram of his former roommate, the lone survivor of the civilization that evolved from his cat and the ship’s computer who has gone a little insane in the 3 million years where it’s had no one to talk to.
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No, Futurama had a much higher budget
RD had bad special effects for the late 80s.
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SMSU just got someone drafted.
Before Tim Barnes. Inappropriate. But Tee Hee :)
13 Dallas David Arkin (OG) SW Mo St
per the ESPN.com draft tracker
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by Other Side of the Pillow on Apr 30, 2011 11:47 AM CDT reply actions
I like the KC Chiefs picking up Stanzi in the fifth round
Stanzi will be a capable backup (more capable than Croyle), and who knows, maybe he turns into a decent QB and takes over for Cassell in a few years. Stanzi is one of those solid but unspectacular guys that I love to see teams pick up in the later rounds of the draft.
Cassel will be there for a long time, though.
Stanzi will be one of those guys who spends 5 or 6 years in the league as a back-up, 3rd stringer, and practice squad member for 4 different teams.
seems like
those are some of the things they said about drew brees, too.
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by threadkiller on Apr 30, 2011 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions
true
and was viwed as a reach by a lot of analysts. wasn’t trying to argue.
"Bob Gibson pitches as though he's double parked."~Vin Scully
by threadkiller on Apr 30, 2011 2:46 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Don't say a word.
The words you write on the internet have a direct effect on the outcome of the game.
Schweisberger tries to bunt, gets it down, catcher throws it away or something (can't tell on gametracker)
and Hudson scores and 2 now have runners on 1st and 2nd with no outs and Cat Lee at the plate.
Yep, 3-0. 2 of them are unearned, but you have to take advantage of your opportunities.
We’re doing a good job of that and scoring on a fairly good pitcher (although she’s not great).
The Patriots and Eagles made a trade
The Patriots get pick #194
The Eagles get pick #193
These two teams have made a draft-day trade every year since 2000….TWELVE STRAIGHT YEARS.
And the Jets draft pick in the 5th round shows what some around Como already knew…Brad Smith does not want to return to the New York Jets.
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The Jets are my least favorite NFL team.
It’s pained me to have to cheer for Brad while he’s been wearing that uniform.
So, they swapped picks...solely to keep the streak alive?
Is this some sort of GM humor? How exactly does it help either team to swap those picks besides simply keeping the trade streak alive?
Oh, and I hope Brad Smith leaves the Jets…I just can’t root for them, and unless he goes to Dallas I’ll probably be okay with wherever he ends up. There are quite a few teams that could use someone like Smith.
From @Eric_Edholm
Chiefs actually make more sense. Their kind of guy. RT @Dave_Matter: Brad Smith & Rams don’t seem like a great fit.
I would LOVE this.
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And Oklahoma State isn't terrible swinging the bat either.
I guess Chelsea has just brought her A game.
The little gametracker avatar for Rhea Taylor is too slow.
:) They need to find a faster one for her.
All is right with the world after Chelsea finally picks up the 8th K to end the inning.
On to the 5th.
@MIZLive is saying 9th K
Not wanting to nitpick you, I appreciate the updates.
Checking gametracker. It agrees with you.
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She was probably just playing around with her food for the first two batters before she started
to actually try to get them out again.
minimizes pitch count to have a groundout
strikeout takes at least 3 pitches.
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Aww, you beat me to it.
I’m gonna just write up the next strikeout and keep my mouse on the post button until it happens.
.
Sam Seaborn: He wrote a concession speech.
Josh Lyman: Of course he wrote a concession speech. Why wouldn’t he? What possible reason would he have for not writing a concession speech?
Sam Seaborn: The wrath from high atop the thing.
Toby Ziegler: He upped and said we were gonna…
Josh Lyman: No, you got to go outside, turn around three times and curse.
Toby Ziegler: Spit.
Josh Lyman: Spit and curse.
Toby Ziegler: Do everything. Go!
Josh Lyman: Go!
Toby Ziegler: Go!
Josh Lyman: Go!
Toby Ziegler: Go!
[Sam gets up and leaves the room]
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I think her career high is 14 set against Oklahoma (twice).
Those games both went into extras though. Wonder if she’ll break 14 today.
she only needed 17 to break the all time career strikeout record at Mizzou.
oh, and she still has 2 more years of eligibility.
The sleeper has awoken. . .awakened. . .he woke up.
by SleepyFloyd7 on Apr 30, 2011 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions
17 is her career high, both against OU
she’s hit 15 a few times too
16 is the highest possible for today
with 10 through 5. I would guess she ends at 12 or 13.
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ESPN still won't give them an "F" for their hire.
And I’m not kidding…don’t remember who it was, but one of ESPN’s experts gave our Haith hire an “F”. Only one other grade was even below a C-, I think. Ridiculous considering Haith has been here for less than a month.
Looking just at the hire, it's hard to disagree.
But who else could we have gotten that’s any better? All the best coaches stayed at their schools. He could do really well, which would make him a good hire, but right now he’s a bad hire until he proves he does well.
Exactly.
I mean, I’m willing to give the hire a D or D+ for initial PR…Alden should’ve anticipated the response to the hire a little bit more. That being said, it’s not like we said “I’m sorry Mr. Painter, we’d rather go with Haith.” And it’s not like we hired a local high school coach to come in with no college experience (although something tells me some people at ESPN would’ve respected it more, for whatever reason).
I think the only name that needs to be said is Rick Barnes. Sure, Rick Barnes had a slightly better resume than Haith coming in (slightly), but he wasn’t exactly top of the world, and he’s led Texas to their best run of tournament appearances in their history.
Again, not saying Haith is a great hire, but jeez, let’s let the man coach for a season before giving this an “F”.
And it's also not like he didn't get Painter and then rushed to pick anybody that could coach basketball.
Lots of coaches have slow starts to their career, and Haith certainly was a fine assistant before having some rough luck at Miami when he started being the head coach.
Anticipated the response?
What exactly was Alden going to do about the response? What did he do poorly regarding the response?
That does not make any sense to me
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Alden specifically said that
He knew there would be a negative reaction to the hiring, but he didn’t anticipate the level of vitriol that came following the hiring. I’m not sure there was much Alden could have done, but I’m wondering if there IS something he would’ve done differently had he been able to anticipate just how bad the initial reaction to Haith would be.
I really like Alden, and think he’s done a wonderful job. I also think he’s good enough with the PR thing that, had he correctly assessed the response to Haith, he might have come up with some way to temper the immediate outcry. I’m not necessarily trying to say that Alden did anything wrong, and I realize that’s how my post came across. Should’ve worded it better.
I guess I just did not understand your criticism
It’s not like Alden was in any position to do or say anything to otherwise change the reaction. It simply was what it was. Sure, he can say he was surprised, but the reaction and handling it was totally out of his control.
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I appreciate that Alden likes keeping things close to the vest
And doesn’t leak things out. I really do. I just think the hiring coming out of left-field after we spent all week hyping ourselves up to different options made the “fall” from getting Haith worse. I mean, there’s a chance that this really was the best way, and that things actually could’ve been worse than they were. I fully understand that. I guess I just wonder, had Alden anticipated the response, would he have found a way to reign the fans in before announcing the hiring? I’m not saying I have any great idea, it was more a moment of wondering out loud whether Alden could’ve handled the pre-hire stage better. Honestly, there might not have been (hell, probably wasn’t) a better way to do things. I was just wondering whether us knowing what was going on just a little bit more would’ve made the response to Haith less cataclysmic.
I’m definitely not saying anything could be done in the post-hiring differently. It was done as well, if not better, than I could’ve expected.
The "out of left field" thing is perplexing to me
So…you are upset then that you were surprised and did not get to make up your mind about it before it actually happened? To that end, do you really believe that had you (the royal “you”) known about it, that you would have been able to impart any sort of desired change?
I guess I just dont understand the thought that anyone DESERVED to know about this until it actually happened.
And how could Alden have possibly reigned in the fans before the hire?
I just dont see how any of what you are talking about is in any way realistic, even in this digital, social media, guerrilla-marketing world. Yes, the process with Painter afforded people the chance to make up their mind about it before it ever could have happened. The process was not the same with Haith, but that does not mean someone is potentially at fault or should be criticized for it.
Mind you, I am not saying Alden should not potentially be criticized FOR the hire (though I dont feel he should be), but the notion he should be criticized for HOW he made the hire just rings really hollow and unrealistic.
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I'm not saying I'm necessarily upset about it.
I’m simply throwing out hypotheses on situations that I’m unsure of. I don’t think we have any entitlement to know, but some people do believe it. I personally don’t hold this as a negative against Alden how this was handled. I think that he handled everything extremely well, and when I think hard about it, the initial outcry may have actually been good for the Haith hire, ‘cause it means everyone who really cares took the time to look at Haith’s numbers and were able to make an informed judgment about it rather than the initial “Who is Frank Haith?” reaction.
I really haven’t given this a lot of thought…it was simply a musing about a possible situation. I’m not saying I personally have any investment in this idea. I like the Haith hire, I was just wondering whether there even could have been any difference in reaction had something been done differently.
Although it is unrealistic to start blaming Alden for things like this, people DO often have unrealistic expectations, especially when it comes to athletics. I’m not saying any of this SHOULD have a negative impact on Alden (I realize I’ve used the word “should” many more times that I really have meant to, and this may end up being one again), I guess I just wonder if anything COULD have made this any different. The answer is almost certainly “no,” but that doesn’t always stop me from asking, just to see what others think.
"Alden should’ve anticipated the response to the hire a little bit more"
I’d say give it more thought next time :-)
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I've stated a couple of times I "should've" worded it better.
It was a case of my words not accurately reflecting what I meant, which happens to me from time to time…okay, happens to me all the time.
not back to back
Nicole Hudson had pop-out to SS between the doubles.
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0 ER, 1 hit, faced 1 over the minimum 13 Ks.
All against the #16 ranked team (RPI) in the country.
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I'd say with the season she is having
she is simply at a level most or not. I dont think she really rises…she simply exists.
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Exactly, she's pitching so well against everyone
that if she’s having an “off day”, it’s one or two ABs.
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Strikeout numero trece (13) ends the game.
We’re now 11-2 in conference. Tonight at 7, Oklahoma visits Texas on ESPN. We’re rooting for OU hard, because at 7-6 they’re no threat to win the Big 12, but they still have a good team and a win or two as a spoiler this weekend would go a long for Mizzou wrapping up the title.
We’re back at it tomorrow at noon, play Western Illinois twice on Wednesday (get revenge for the near-upset in basketball), and then we have Texas at home next weekend for 2 HUGE games. I’ll be at the first game on my first trip ever to University Field, and the second game is on ESPN for the whole nation to watch. Can’t wait.
I would guess the tiebreaker would be head-to-head, right?
If we win out, we and Texas would have 2 losses, both of their losses would be against us. We’d get the championship.
But, in the unlikely circumstance that they should lose both of these games against OU, split against us, and both teams end up with 3 losses, any idea what the tiebreaker is?
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Texas gets to decide who wins it
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by The Beef on Apr 30, 2011 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
From Big12sports.com:
Tiebreaker: Ties in the Conference standings shall be broken utilizing the following procedures:
a. Head-to-head competition of tied teams;
b. Run differential of tied teams;
c. Run differential of all Conference games;
d. Won-loss record versus the highest-standing team or teams not involved in ties, commencing with the highest-standing team;
e. Overall record;
f. Coin toss.
That was from 2009 so the rules might have changed, but that’s all I can find.
The Big 12 website doesn't show runs scored in the expanded standings for softball
and, I don’t care enough to research it, considering that it will all be vastly different by next week and it’s incredibly unlikely that the scenario would come to pass anyway.
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Mizzou baseball just scored 9 runs in the 6th
lead A&M 9-1.
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The offense has just exploded recently.
It’s nice to see the team get something going in a positive direction.
I certainly dont think it will be an issue this year....
but….TJ needs to get that ship righted here in the not too distant future. Alden will obviously give him plenty of time (as has been his M.O.), but with the facility upgrade in the last few years, it is suddenly been a few years since we were last in the NCAA’s….and we’ve not been real close of late.
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This would be the 2nd year they missed out
It’s not a few years and it’s the first really bad year. Maybe it feels longer because assuming Stites goes pro I don’t see them making it next year either. It would be silly to question Jamieson yet. If they miss the Big 12 tourney this year and don’t improve next year, then yes. After the tourney streak he can have 2 years missing it.
what players have went in the drft so far from mizzou... I havent been able to watch since gabbert and smith
by Kenny wayne puddin tane on Apr 30, 2011 3:51 PM CDT reply actions
middle/end of the 6th round...
still about 50 or so picks, so still some time.
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Should I root for Barnes or Gachkar to become Mr. Irrelevant
because it means that they’ve been drafted?
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In THIS year, under these conditions
very much so.
I dont think anyone has any idea what will happen to the undrafted free agents this year, but I dont see how it could be a good year to be one. Typically you like it because you get to maybe pick your team or situation, but I just dont think that is going to happen this season.
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I like the value for Lee Ziemba
in the 7th for Carolina— I obviously don’t get paid for my opinions on this, but he could be one of those late-round-to-star-starter kind of picks. Nice protection down the road for BG11
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by Other Side of the Pillow on Apr 30, 2011 6:17 PM CDT reply actions
Hm yeah.
This is what I get for sniffing glue.
"Alcohol may be man's worst enemy, but the bible says love your enemy." --Frank Sinatra
by Other Side of the Pillow on Apr 30, 2011 7:02 PM CDT up reply actions
the difference between mizz
And the ok, usc, etc. Of the world is not in the first round talent. But players drafted in rounds 2-5. Congrats to gachkar. And of course aldon and blaine.
by rockthenation on Apr 30, 2011 6:30 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
It's a shame to see Mark Herzlich go undrafted
I understand there are obvious concerns about his health (he did have cancer), but he is a very strong linebacker, and I thought for sure someone was going to give him a shot somewhere in the sixth or seventh round. Hopefully when the lockout is lifted he’ll get a chance somewhere as an undrafted free agent.
No matter how much we want them to win, I still hate Patty Gasso and Keilani Ricketts.
But I agree, go Sooners.
10000000000000 % THIS!!!
I was at the Saturday game when Oklahoma came to Columbia, and Patty Gasso is just as unlikable in person as she is on TV.
did you interview her, or how did you happen to meet her?
"Bob Gibson pitches as though he's double parked."~Vin Scully
by threadkiller on Apr 30, 2011 9:24 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Sooners 5, 'Horns 3 Final
3 run blast in bottom of 7th, but not enough.
by MIZZOUfaninAZ on Apr 30, 2011 9:37 PM CDT up reply actions
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