M-I-Z... E-R-Y: Kansas 1960 vs Kansas 2008

It's a battle of devastating losses to Kansas ... so much fun, huh?



Kansas 24, Mizzou 7 (1960)

Mizzou was No. 1 for the first time and just needed to defeat Kansas at home to win their first national title. They had taken down Penn State, they had romped over Oklahoma in Norman ... and they completely ran out of gas in the finale. Bert Coan and the Kansas backfield dominated the Tigers, and though they tried to put together a late charge, it was not to be. Kansas prevented Mizzou from winning the national title, and if that was the whole story, it would be enough to make this bracket. Losing your only shot at a title at the hands of your chief rival, on your home field no less? Ouch.
But that, of course, was not the whole story.
[T]he committee voted 5-3 that KU was in violation of the ban on off-campus recruiting, thus concurring with the mid-season NCAA finding. By a corollary conference rule, this determination automatically rendered Coan ineligible. The next step for the conference committee was to determine the period of ineligibility. Prior to the KU-MU game, speculation in Lawrence was that "If the league fathers rule Coan ineligible, that probably will mean the forfeit of all the conference games he has played in, as well as meaning he won’t be able to play his junior and senior season." However, the conference was more lenient. After two motions to make Coan ineligible for the 1961 season were defeated, the committee voted 6-2 that Mr. Coan would be ineligible to participate in intercollegiate competition in football only for the period October 26, 1960 through October 25, 1961 (a one-year period starting from the date of the NCAA ruling).
KU had gambled that the Big Eight would not back MU on the actions threatened in MU’s November letter, had lost, and they now had to pay the price. KU was ordered to forfeit its victories over CU and MU, and the conference championship was awarded to MU.
It is a very "Mizzou" thing to do to rank No. 1 in the final week of the season, finish "undefeated," and still lose the national title. But that's exactly what Mizzou did in 1960.
Kansas 40, Mizzou 37 (2008)

Really, this shouldn't have felt like too bad a loss. Mizzou had already been eliminated from national title contention, so this did no damage there. Plus, Mizzou had already clinched the North title. There was really nothing at stake beyond simple Border War pride in this one ... but that is often enough.
This game was three hours of anxiety, followed by temporary relief, capped by rage. Mizzou started incredibly slow, rebounded, then collapsed. The first three plays of the game set the tone. Mizzou took the ball and went bad pass > dropped pass > interception. Drops, fumbles and an inability to get to Todd Reesing (who played the game of his damn life) on third downs resulted in an early 10-0 deficit for the Tigers. After Chase Coffman, playing basically on one leg, caught a touchdown pass to cut the lead to 10-7, Mizzou fell apart again. Chase Daniel was called for intentional grounding in the end zone (12-7) and Reesing threw a third-down touchdown pass to Dexton Field. It was 19-10 at halftime.
The second half featured even more anxiety. Three more third-down conversions (the Jayhawks were 12-for-19 on third downs for the day) led to a Jake Sharp touchdown and a 26-10 Jayhawk lead, but Mizzou finally responded. They scored two touchdowns in four plays -- sandwiched between a Jaron Baston interception -- and cut the lead to 26-23 as the game headed into the fourth quarter.
The fourth quarter alone featured enough plot twists for a mini-series. Darrell Stuckey (also playing the game of his damn life) intercepted his second pass, but Mizzou forced a rare punt. On the following drive, Daniel went Maclin-Maclin-Maclin-Coffman-Coffman, with the Flying Nunchuk scoring his second touchdown to give Mizzou a 30-26 lead with 6:52 left. It took Kansas only five plays to regain the lead on a Kerry Meier touchdown. 33-30, 4:26 left. It took Mizzou just seven plays to get the lead back on a Derrick Washington run. 37-33, 1:50 left. Reesing connected with Meier on four consecutive plays to advance to the Missouri 26, but a couple of incompletions led to a 4th-and-7. One play for the ballgame. Mizzou's blitz, horribly ineffective all game, couldn't get to Reesing, and with 27 seconds left, he found Meier for one of the most infuriating touchdowns in Mizzou history. Mizzou was able to advance into Kansas territory, but a 54-yard Jeff Wolfert attempt was blocked as time expired, and Kansas took the win.
Really, this was one of those games where the defense took the blame for the late collapse, but they held it together as long as possible. The offense's first-half failures wore the defense out, and when it was time to make a stop, they just couldn't do it. Mizzou outgained Kansas, 478-438, for the day, but it didn't matter. Kansas gained the yards that mattered the most: the final 26 to Meier.
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Is the 1960 game the original "Mizery" game, or were there even earlier examples
of Tiger fandom karma?
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It's not every day that you lose the opportunity for a National Championship
by losing to your arch-rival, only to have it later overturned due to forfeit.
The fact that they kicked our butts in the game and would have probably won even without using an ineligible player doesn’t make it any better.
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This is not place for rationalization
College football is and always has been an individual sport. One player missing from that KU team and Mizzou easily would have won something like 15,534-6. KU gets a late touchdown but we of course would block the extra point.
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by BillSelfsToupee on Jun 29, 2011 9:42 AM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
Kansas would have PROBABLY won...
…but being that the ineligible player was the best player on the field that day (and had a hand in every successful Kansas drive), it’s far from certain. And since it was 50 years ago and there’s no way to know for sure … WE ABSOLUTELY WOULD HAVE WON IF THEY HADN’T CHEATED, DAMMIT.
by Bill C. on Jun 29, 2011 10:05 AM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
wait a second
you always provide us with the what if segments. I propose you do a what if Coan hadn’t played scenario. If we end up winning using your statistics Post It. If we end up losing, send it to me, I’ll do some fuzzy math so that we win and Post It.
Dig up a full play-by-play from that game...
…and I’ll do just that.
And when you’re done, dig up play-by-plays from the TVZ era, and I’ll blow your mind with the “What If…Tony Van Zant hadn’t gotten hurt and really had been the second coming of Herschel Walker?” post.
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…then on second thought, I actually could not do that at all. I let mizzou2396 take that.
Where’s the Challenge baton so I can hand it off?
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by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Jun 29, 2011 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions
Interesting, the Challenge Accepted pic did not work.
I’ll go back to making my talk anyway, freaken Wednesdays and Miz-ery posts.
I just don’t have that much energy today. I wonder…
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by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Jun 29, 2011 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions
I'll do the whole thing for you (Lazy)
Coan scored twice. So we take of 14 points. So we are up 7-3. There is no desperation pass so we run out the clock. We win 7-3, win the national championship. Having the national championship monkey off of our back causes the basketball team to play loose and they win the tourney every year of Stip and Sunny. Tyus Edney twists his ankle and the ball rolls feebly out of bounds. Mizzou shocks the world with a national championship (their 5th in basketball). Because of it’s great recruiting base, Mizzou picks up a couple of titles in football in the 70s and the 90s. We win 3 in the 2000s. We are investigated by the NCAA who find that we have some minor infractions and punish us by taking away the 1960 national championship.
So...another 30-for-30...
The Moe Excess ?
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by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Jun 29, 2011 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions
uhh
is this evejn close i wasnt even alive in 1960 but that loss killded our hope of a national championship and they cheated
I don't always rage. But when I do...
It’s directed at KU.
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by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Jun 29, 2011 10:48 AM CDT reply actions
This poll shows
that as of this moment – 44 Rock M’ers have smoked crack today. No way does 2009 come close.
by SouthCityTiger on Jun 29, 2011 12:09 PM CDT reply actions
recency bias
It’s hard to get worked up over something that happened (for most of us) long before you were born. Yeah, I voted for 1960, but the 2008 loss hurt really bad at the time.
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by Spider_Monkey on Jun 29, 2011 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions
I've been mostly voting with personal experience in these...
but this easily takes the Mizery cake. NC lost. To a rival. Using an ineligible player. I mean, THIS is the game that all tv crews cite when they cover the Border War. OF COURSE it’s a worse loss…but 08 was so s**t-tastic on its own.
I dunno man...hockey?
2008 was a nothing meaningless game
So of course KU won it. 1960 could have changed Mizzou forever. Win one NC and all the meme of the last 50 years never happen. We could have gone from being to Mizzou to being (god help me for saying this) Nebraska.
YOU TAKE THAT BACK RIGHT NOW!
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by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Jun 29, 2011 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Gaknar, I used to appreciate you.
Your captions are awesome. But we don’t want to be the Bugeaters.
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by Spider_Monkey on Jun 29, 2011 6:13 PM CDT up reply actions
speak for yourself, sm.
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by threadkiller on Jun 29, 2011 7:16 PM CDT up reply actions
You're killer'in me thread, you're killin' me.
The new signs on their refurbished stadium should read: “Through these gates pass the fans who will beat their wives and children when we lose.”
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by Spider_Monkey on Jun 29, 2011 7:35 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
ha!
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